There's almost no reason to join an MCN. I've grown my channel without one. I've gotten myself brand deals. And I'm able to fight my own copyright issues. You can do all of that without an MCN.
@santiagoarruegowland5866
5 жыл бұрын
Retail Archaeology I didn't expect to see you here.
@spencercarruth9706
5 жыл бұрын
MCN’s are a relic of a bygone time in KZitem’s history. Pre-2013 having a competent MCN was almost vital to getting your name out there. Nowadays that really isn’t the case.
@eligio7907
5 жыл бұрын
Love u
@billyhatcher643
5 жыл бұрын
nice about of subs dude im shocked ur able to survive in this current age of youtube
@metpach
5 жыл бұрын
I subbed to you just cause you commented on mcn. I like your stuff, good stuff. You're completely right.
@blueeyedtech1234
5 жыл бұрын
You say your not successful but there are a massive load of small KZitemrs (myself included) would do almost anything to even have half the success you have gotten here. You are successful on here in my opinion and have earned it 👍
@l34CoNCreepy
5 жыл бұрын
freedom network still owes me about 150$ when i made a thread on their forum, i was banned for violating the privacy of sharing the terms by complaining about not being paid.
@THEKINGISHIM
5 жыл бұрын
Freedom Network is one the biggest MCN scams
@theinquisitor18
5 жыл бұрын
Not paying your employees is illegal under US labor laws. And of course they still do it.
@neoasura
5 жыл бұрын
KZitem doesn't fall under US Labor though. Unless they were signing W-2s, etc.
@theinquisitor18
5 жыл бұрын
@@neoasura KZitemrs pay Federal Income taxes. Especially if they are with a network.
@biohazardlnfS
5 жыл бұрын
KZitemrs are not employees of networks they are partners in finance and promotion. The MCNs have their own actual employees
@theinquisitor18
5 жыл бұрын
@@biohazardlnfS True, and to the previous person KZitem will send a 1099.(for the United States Department of the Treasury)
@biohazardlnfS
5 жыл бұрын
To give more information. KZitemrs are not employees of youtube or the MCNs. They are independent contractors as far as ad revenue is concerned. Once you partner with a MCN youtube no longer deals with your money. It goes to your network. Just because you pay income taxes on revenue does not.mean your an employee. KZitem is the middle man and connects your videos to ads which they take a share of. When you sign up for a MCC you end up with 2 middle mans which neither pays you as a listed emplyee, because your not on an emplyee pay roll. When you monetize you dont become an employee of youtube. You become a partner, that is the language they use in the electronic contract. It is also why they can delete your channel with no warning
@Slooneyy
5 жыл бұрын
you...could say that they got defied
@PSVitaat2am
5 жыл бұрын
Good one!
@DDRhappiness17
5 жыл бұрын
YYYYYYYYEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
@borb7085
5 жыл бұрын
(heavy breathing)
@HelloItsMikkan
5 жыл бұрын
More like Defyled
@marcjustmarc6990
5 жыл бұрын
"Beverly Hills filming location"? I know California rent isnt cheap but couldn't they find a more affordable property?
@SuperCoalBlox
5 жыл бұрын
Everyone wants to live in California you know lmao
@ahmataevo
5 жыл бұрын
I hear south side Detroit's been REAL cheep for 10+ years now...
@OppeltDrums
5 жыл бұрын
Rich lookin like a snack. Specifically an orange
@maximumforce8275
5 жыл бұрын
A big ol orange
@PSVitaat2am
5 жыл бұрын
Oooooooh snap!
@garystinten9339
5 жыл бұрын
Illuminati confirmed. Orange is 33 Lol
@YoungBasedChefBeezy
5 жыл бұрын
Samir Ahmed IN THE NAVY
@brett9044
5 жыл бұрын
@@garystinten9339 The Illumanti has 3 sides, and 3 meanings. 1. Meme 2. "Real" scandal 3. Dank memes.
@MrMultiPat
5 жыл бұрын
How did you cover this without even bringing up Smosh, and Anthony Padilla's video on Defy? You missed some meaty details there.
@protoluigi2047
5 жыл бұрын
That's what I wanted to know!!!!
@garystinten9339
5 жыл бұрын
Was this part of the mental health hotline thing that going around a while back?
@MrMultiPat
5 жыл бұрын
@@garystinten9339 No, Defy Media (the MCN being discussed in Rich's video) owned Smosh, one of the biggest channels on KZitem. One of the creators of Smosh (Anthony Padilla) came out on his own channel and talked about his experiences with Defy Media and how they fucked him over.
@HRAZZI
5 жыл бұрын
I hate homework
@fruityfruitcakes2014
5 жыл бұрын
HRAYЯ who doesn't?
@HRAZZI
5 жыл бұрын
@vvmm ee okay :/
@kimrose1559
5 жыл бұрын
Why so ramdom?
@iimlazyy
5 жыл бұрын
I hate
@mattcgw
5 жыл бұрын
Your new camera has fantastic image quality.
@dynamickirby
5 жыл бұрын
All of these uploads...If you keep the videos coming, I’m sure ReviewTechUSA will be at 1 million subs in no time.
@garystinten9339
5 жыл бұрын
Then he'll be offered sweet deals from these awesome MCN's?
@dynamickirby
5 жыл бұрын
Gary Stinten ...I guess so. lol
@roninchan
5 жыл бұрын
Multi channel networks are the record companies of youtube. Sell you a dream and entice you into signing your entire life away into a contract
@ThumbdownMan
5 жыл бұрын
Don't be so assure of yourself Rich, your MCN is picking your pockets behind your back.
@LordVittaminn
5 жыл бұрын
Good rule of thumb - if someone comes to YOU with a contract, read it carefully and be wholeheartedly prepared to chuck it out the window. Only contracts I ever signed were ones that I got MYSELF into and its never really screwed me over
@SpectreSoundStudios
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Thanks so much for sharing... emailing my MCN today! :)
@NemesisPrime1989
5 жыл бұрын
Damn Rich! On a roll this week. Love the flow of content!
@emmajohnson7364
5 жыл бұрын
Cool that you brought up gunns4hire's shoutout, that's actually how I found you!
@Warisarcy
5 жыл бұрын
Way back when KZitem still had a private message system and I had a sudden jolt in subscribers on my tinyass channel, I saw a message from over a year ago where one of these multichannel networks had wanted to partner with me.
@momslasagna5727
5 жыл бұрын
MCNs are a scam
@jamesoren7238
5 жыл бұрын
They needn't be, but yeah, in the real world. You should get scared when the contract is "all your money, the rights to the channel, etc is ours and we pay you a salary based on how much you make us" instead of here's the services we provide, you have to pay us ONLY this % of your earnings. Most people get into these things because what they really want is a publisher, sadly what they do is usually give their channel away for empty promises and maybe a free webcam or something.
@FreindTrey
5 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting, that even if you want an MCN just for the whole "Protects you from false flags" thing, still do extensive research into them, because the one I had refused to do anything about false flags and then tried to say I couldnt leave presenting me with a "Signed" contract different from the one I actually signed, which I thankfully kept records and backups of. So yeah, always do your research.
@Emanouche
5 жыл бұрын
Anthony Padilla mentioned that him and Ian Hecox literally gave the Smosh brand FOR FREE to defy media in exchange for being employees with a salary... he mentioned they were young and wish they had been smarter... sad.
@LikaLaruku
5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a story from last year about Maker Studios not paying their channels.
@Fuchie
5 жыл бұрын
In Chapter 11 bankruptcy, employees are practically second in line to receive any remaining funds, only following the expenses of actually filing bankruptcy, such as a law firm. Unless Defy Media were so far in debt that they had no money left over after paying bankruptcy expenses, the channels that they managed should receive whatever they were owed.
@jamescorey3516
5 жыл бұрын
They are filthy thieves and should be prosecuted.
@garystinten9339
5 жыл бұрын
Like crypto Nick.. they'll get away with it.
@Austinawesome56
5 жыл бұрын
I knew neils as gunns4hire to, I used to love his old COD coverage.
@norbertcsorba4639
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah everytime i hear about MCNs its starts with "scam" or "Machinima" or both
@AlmarAZL9S
5 жыл бұрын
5:42, 5:49 Rich interrupts himself and gets into "Advice" mode.
@devondorseyart
5 жыл бұрын
I’m not totally sure but this situation I think happened to Etika minus his personal health situation that his MCN dooped him over and now he is not getting his money. Again don’t quote me on it this is what I heard.
@matthewsolano887
5 жыл бұрын
That kiss at the end of that multi media thing😂😂
@itsdreo
5 жыл бұрын
Every time your outro plays my google assistant opens up lol
@ChrissyFreitas
5 жыл бұрын
In addition to possibly being sued, Defy Media could be in hot water for breaking labor laws, especially not paying content creators and in-house employees for months on end.
@venatorleo6166
5 жыл бұрын
It’s like signing up for a credit card for anything other than to maintain a good credit score.
@CaptDnaDonut
5 жыл бұрын
Just throwing it out there. I'm pretty sure if a company files for bankruptcy, if/when they close down, any money they have left is suppose to pay off debts first, then shareholders (if there are any).
@kosmosXcannon
5 жыл бұрын
I'm also pretty sure that wages are at the very top of the list for priority after secured debt.
@TheMrSacred
5 жыл бұрын
I watched TheGUNNShop a lot when I was younger, sucks that he’s going through that right now.
@jebreski
5 жыл бұрын
I love the editing in this
@MrGodchild15
5 жыл бұрын
I smell a class action lawsuit
@asadb1990
5 жыл бұрын
this is exactly why you should still have a full time job while doing KZitem. The creators at KZitem are treated like independent contractors, and are not protected the same way as regular 9-5 F/T jobs.
@ARIGHETTI
5 жыл бұрын
Rich killing it with the uploads! 🤙🙌
@HiPlayerProdigy
5 жыл бұрын
You should have shown part of Anthony Padillda's video about Defy Media. Kinda sums up who these people are.
@xxnike0629xx
5 жыл бұрын
That is just horrible. This is probably going to make these KZitem channels think twice about using multi-channel networks. Honestly, if you make a big enough career doing KZitem, you should just handle the sharing, and whatnot yourself and with people you can work with face to face. I definitely sense that _Defy Media_ will try to dodge lawsuits, but they'll eventually get the people behind the company sued and have them pay back all of that money plus damages.
@CraftyAndyCreates
5 жыл бұрын
I'm a small channel struggling to make time to get a freaking audience and now I'm still glad to never have signed with mcn. I don't think you can get the money back if the company doesn't have it.
@MIKEANTHONY321
5 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember when KZitem's motto was "Broadcast Yourself," and none of this namby-pamby bullshit existed.
@SlyBlueDemon
5 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS GET AN ATTORNEY TO REVIEW ANY BINDING CONTRACTS, ESPECIALLY! IF IT WILL AFFECT FUTURE INCOME. Spending $200+ dollars on an attorney to go over the contract and to explain it to you can save you big time.
@MrAGame
5 жыл бұрын
I get those MCN emails almost daily. They can get stuffed, I’m not letting them take my hard earned revenue for nothing.
@MrScaryPasta
5 жыл бұрын
Wow! This is Telltales all over again.
@gudkarma1
5 жыл бұрын
was approached so many times by mcn's and i never understood the draw and why any creator would join them.its a real shame.
@TimmyTam
5 жыл бұрын
I used to watch YAW back in the day, so when I heard Gunns4Hire, my interest just peaked to new levels. They messing with my childhood, now.
@thoseguys52
5 жыл бұрын
damn Richie your sub growth is picking up. Glad to see it
@captainkaveman4470
5 жыл бұрын
This sucks I feel bad for everyone involved. My question though id after you didn't get paid the 1st month why didn't they say something about the pay?
@heathweather5995
5 жыл бұрын
I'v never had an MCN. One of my channels bring in $1200 a month consitently. I'm fine working alone. In fact the idea of MCNs comes off as a fraud to me.
@ThumbdownMan
5 жыл бұрын
Good your paycheck says Google on it, not from a shady multichannel network.
@robjones2206
5 жыл бұрын
That t shirt really makes your eyes pop...Ralph x
@elias_xp95
5 жыл бұрын
MCN are like Record Labels. A bygone era. Self publishing is the future.
@BigGuyZee
5 жыл бұрын
Yo! Before KZitem demonitised the smaller channels, I remember when even I was getting messages from MCNs. At first I was excited but then I was like "really? I don't even have 600 subs." lol xD
@qmbyqmby
5 жыл бұрын
Post a link for Bob's Buttcheek!! Been searching for hours and can't find it.
@AllieRX
5 жыл бұрын
And I thought Curse Network dropping all their partners in July was bad. This tops it!
@Luminousplayer
5 жыл бұрын
advice : dont let others handle your money unsupervised and without going through you first.
@zwataketa
5 жыл бұрын
I feel like I can understand the experience somewhat. That's partly why I ended up making a second channel a few years back. I'm among the lucky ones to have been able to recover my channel and rebuild it after these past few years. That's all I feel at liberty to say on the subject. Edit: After that sarcastic "example" of describing an MCN email, yeah, I can now confirm I understand more than "somewhat". ^^' Here's hoping that things ultimately work out in favor of the content creators affected.
@Boomrainbownuke9608
5 жыл бұрын
if i ever got an email from an MCN called Bob's Buttcheek i would be laughing hysterically
@peridotasadeadbritishmonar7924
5 жыл бұрын
guys someone please start a go fund me so we can help give the youtubers that had their money stolen. i just feel really bad for them.
@CDeuce152
5 жыл бұрын
Never interested in MCNs to begin with because my channel is too small to sign up with. Then I here all these horror stories and its keeping my distance from all of them.
@bassicallyandre
5 жыл бұрын
This was actually insightful.
@NeedAVacay-y5u
5 жыл бұрын
Rip for Smosh😢
@AlodiaEteniaPetrichor
5 жыл бұрын
Amazing, informative, and educational content.
@Skorch88
5 жыл бұрын
They have no money. You will lose more money trying to sue them at this point.
@Marinealver
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds exactly like many game studios. Oh hi Telltale.
@mikeoxlong6351
5 жыл бұрын
well maybe if processed dairy slice got his 200 Gold doubloons, they would have gone bankrupt..
@cherrypie581
5 жыл бұрын
Don’t do what Anthony and Ian did, Anthony even admitted he shouldn’t have signed to giving defy Smosh
@technologyproductions-ye3px
5 жыл бұрын
You don't need a channel Network and if you do get one get one where you can cancel at anytime.
@underground868
5 жыл бұрын
Just clicked on your Patreon link but I got a error 404 message and it's not there. Is your account down?
@TotalMK
5 жыл бұрын
Lets talk about Fullscreen Network MCN! They terminated my contract for NO REASON AT ALL back in April. Claiming my channel "has the potential to infringe on the rights of others." My channel is 100% in perfect standing. I was paid. But I was kicked out after 8 years for no god damn reason. Of course no one cares cause DEFY media only looked after big channels and all those big KZitemrs are doing videos about it. I tweeted to drama channels phillyd and no one even batted an eye lid or mentioned it, cause "that guy only has 19k subs.... pfft not worth it" You are right about MCN deals, Fullscreen promised to promote my channel to build the audience, they never did. They told me to do promos for movies, I did then wouldn't pay me cause the views came in from the US not Australia. They offered me some "Gorilla Campaign" premium ads thing, there was NEVER any ads there for me to try to do. Or they were limited to US channels only. They told me I had to change my channel location to located in America for once for no god damn reason... If you are small time like me (under 100k subs) and are reading this stay away from MCNs unless you get hit with copyright stuff often, as they can help you with that stuff but if you are OK with copyright do it on your own.
@TiciTotyTony
5 жыл бұрын
This and TellTale...people loved getting sued huh.
@woody4077
5 жыл бұрын
omg he's wearing an RIT (rochester inst. of technology) shirt in this video that school is about 6 miles (9.6km) south of where i live.
@woody4077
5 жыл бұрын
@The Floridian Gent i hope not the bills are terrible this year
@woody4077
5 жыл бұрын
@The Floridian Gent good point
@foodfriends2
5 жыл бұрын
I love the kiss at the end😂
@ChainsawRambo
5 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt Rich! Was gonna go there for school but I couldn’t do the dorming situation lol
@MrBibi86
5 жыл бұрын
*atleast KZitem seems to be trying to help the people on this network*
@HelloItsMikkan
5 жыл бұрын
How do they have debt if Defy managed to get 70 Million funding before ?
@RedneckOgre
5 жыл бұрын
Moral of the story: Don't rely on companies like Defy.
@protoluigi2047
5 жыл бұрын
Or better yet, if you want to make money, just be a one man show!!
@kevinpage4161
5 жыл бұрын
I graduated from RIT!! Rich, are you an alum as well?
@GraphicallyChallenged
5 жыл бұрын
RICH. KZitem had you out of my feed again. AHHHHHHH. I hate KZitem so much. How could they... missed 3 videos...
@pdvaughn1415
5 жыл бұрын
They always say corporations and companies but how about individual names that made these decisions.
@BeaTsDiV
5 жыл бұрын
I was with freedom at one point but they really don’t do anything for their members
@walkerpierce5446
5 жыл бұрын
I smell a class action.
@notjimpickens7928
5 жыл бұрын
>Tfw Smosh finally got smoshed
@NoChillMan
5 жыл бұрын
*Make intro jokes great again!*
@Spooknight
5 жыл бұрын
2018: The Year of The Exposed
@KingJellalTV
5 жыл бұрын
Rich, what point is there in suing a company that declared BANKRUPTCY? There's literally no money.
@MLennholm
5 жыл бұрын
Rich doesn't understand that. Like most KZitemrs, he lacks sufficient knowledge about how business, and the laws concerning it, works.
@IXSICNESS
5 жыл бұрын
MLennholm there is a way to pursue funds owed by someone who goes bankrupt but i cant think of it off the top.of my head. You are welcome for this useless contribution
@DrumstickPony
5 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of bankruptcy fraud?
@nathanlong8295
5 жыл бұрын
If you’re gonna start a company then you need to not have great amount of debt especially if you’re gonna be getting a cut of everyone’s money or cash and are expected to pay everyone else.
@lilbladeknight
5 жыл бұрын
wtf when did RTusa hit more than 100k subs o-o
@BobOfAllTrades
5 жыл бұрын
I had one of these companies contact me about two months ago
@Randomark3087
5 жыл бұрын
"Bob's Buttcheek Multi network!" ROFL
@dylanangel2870
5 жыл бұрын
problem is when they're signing kids
@SpongyMemeSauce
5 жыл бұрын
The daily new reporter I trust
@giorno5754
5 жыл бұрын
You know what if realize KZitem is so fucked up right know that i think alot of youtubers clickbaite because of that. If you are a new youtuber YOU HAVE TO CLICKBAITE if not youre channel is fucked. Unless you are on KZitem for years like reviewtechusa youre channel will be just fine.
@cafecaram4747
5 жыл бұрын
lol trhe intro joke made my day ;)
@zobuzobu5817
5 жыл бұрын
Gonna be hard to sue if they have no money.
@pdc4930
5 жыл бұрын
I remember when you were with Curse entertainment
@alphabetaomegainvestments3444
5 жыл бұрын
This happens in the real world all the time. That's why the law needs to change.
@Jeridiculous
5 жыл бұрын
A multi channel network is also what killed SourceFed
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