in all honesty.....i think madea would have actually led a rebellion in remarried empress and take soveshits throne
@khanolval9848
11 ай бұрын
I wanna see a fanfiction of this now
@Marie-Aria
Ай бұрын
yeah, cause sove is a dumb guy but in the throne
@langmuir-hinshelwood1686
9 күн бұрын
Soveshit would have been dead in chapter 10 if Medea was the empress.
@conchettart4152
Жыл бұрын
Medea is amazing at politics. She has been working at maintaining and even improved the state of the dukedom since she was 13 while her father took all the credit. Additionally, she was meant to be the crown princess from tbe start (the contest was just for formalities sake, even the Empress was surprised at how it turned out) which means she needed the political knowhow to even get to that point, something of which she shares with Navier. Navier is a good and kind ruler, but her people still ended up disliking her, which could have been avoided if she played her cards right. Moreover, Medea absolutely has the ability to change how people see her. Like as when she outted her own father's crimes and made her look like a hero in the commoner's eyes. She's very good at reading people like that. If they ever went head to head for the crown, it will be a game of 5D chess. Finally, I will admit Navier makes for a better ruler mostly because she is naturally compassionate while being levelheaded, while Medea is more pragmatic; able to help others but only if it also benefits her. This is where Psyche balances her out. TL;DR Navier is a better ruler but Medea is a strong political contender, her politics score shouldnt be that low.
@evia0913
Жыл бұрын
Navier is strong, yes, she is a perfect empress, she's too good to be true, but Medea is more stronger, mentally, physically and emotionally. She is raised like that, she's a warrior, like a spartan warrior.
@yor_3
Жыл бұрын
While they talk abt Medea being cold and stuff, you have to acknowledge that Medea grew up in a rougher environment than navier and so she did grief for far more long than navier since they didn’t always have the same “support” thus condracting the point of medea just being cold and making this trait less loved by her people. On the contrary to navier (as it’s mentioned in the video) medea seeks redemption because she acknowledges her mistakes which makes her character have a better character development. If we talk about who is the better empress, yes navier wins because as we said she studied her life to be one but we need to remember that Medea in terms of politics and basically everything always calculated a smart move plus is becoming a better person. Navier is a better empress. Medea is the better character.
@UnsterblichFujoshi
Жыл бұрын
how is Medea low on politics? lol
@yana2488
Жыл бұрын
Right this feels biased to me
@medea5508
Жыл бұрын
right? Medea is good with politics since she was a little kid. We saw it when the duke kept on asking her opinions or solutions about the empire's problems.
@sophieflash7423
9 ай бұрын
Her speech in the last task for becoming crownprincess proves her skill in politics.
@when.lifeistiktok
7 ай бұрын
She isn't low on politics but Navier is higher as she too has trained for it as a child but mainly because at the start of the webtoon it says that everyone woman in her family we're empresses and she was practically destined to be one to
@UnsterblichFujoshi
7 ай бұрын
0:50 I was talking about how they illustrated it@@when.lifeistiktok
@mahimadebnath6517
Жыл бұрын
Medea over everything... Your throne is my most favorite webtoon... medea's political, manipulative and calculative power is unmatched better than any emperor
@kelly-annrousseau-bedard7225
Жыл бұрын
Medea would've obliterated Trashta, mentally if not physically
@rddosel7819
Жыл бұрын
Lmaoo honestly speaking as a reader of both the story, medea's political ability is 100/100 as she literally was the reason that the empire was expanded and most powerful, when she was 13 there was a war between empires (?) And because of her strategies, they won the war(her father took her credit but in fact it was all her schemes) Honestly speaking, the wlone who has a better chance at takking the throne would be Medea while Navier would be a better ruler, however, Medea definitely is the better chara Also, one thing I'd like to add is that Medea won the crown princess competition, she 'loses' because Eros said that he want his 'true love' as a wife and not someone who wins the competition
@mikayladanielle
Жыл бұрын
I love Navier waaayyy more, but Medea would eat her up in that battle 💀
@mataharii161
Жыл бұрын
Another thing is that Medea has already been ruling for a bit, all the duke's most advantageous moves were suggested by medea (from my memory). In war, though, Medea would win no question.
@rddosel7819
Жыл бұрын
Yep ur memory is true, she was the one who helped won the war
@morticiacossettaddams
Жыл бұрын
i absolutely love them both but if it’s head to head battling for the same goal, it’ll definitely be medea since navier has a different moral compass. medea isn’t afraid of doing everything and anything within her power to get what she wants. navier will be too ethical to do half what medea has done
@yana2488
Жыл бұрын
This is seriously inaccurate for medea especially on the politics
@yana2488
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the person who is on naviers side didnt even read your throne😂
@doodlesbyalex8765
Жыл бұрын
I think both Medea and Navier would choose to have an alliance with each other because it benefits both of their dominions. Who agrees?
@winteryuki_onna8172
Жыл бұрын
Agree with that reason, imagine your in a bar or restaurant somewhere and you met a person wants the almost the same goal and decide to help them with their goal while they help with your goal.
@webtoonofficial
Жыл бұрын
tbh true and they'd be UNSTOPPABLE
@BananaRamaa
Жыл бұрын
Medea would feel sympathetic towards navier, as shown by her caring for the empress in her story. The empress cares for her son, and can’t fathom him betraying her. Navier is in a similar situation, only that she’s already been betrayed by the person she trusted most.
@ayomichanisapalestinesuppo8729
Жыл бұрын
The better empress? NAVIER The better character in my opinion?, Medea
@sanjidasumi6073
Жыл бұрын
Your throne is realistic about stuff like how political world is everyone is hungry for throne and power. while remarried empress is fantasy romance where the only issue is romance. If you want to rule an empire Your going face a lot of problems, not only you need to be physically but also mentally strong. But in remarried empress navier literally have plot armor for stuff like throne and ruling an empire. We shouldn't even compare navier with medea. Medea became duke because of her own action not because she was born as duke daughter. This video really want to make them equal. Because they don't want fan fight. Medea gonna win without even a doubt. Navier in compare to medea she doesn't have much powerful supporters. While Medea has a saint with both divine and combat power. Powerful supporter who can see future. Warlord who wins the battle. I don't kmow bro it seems like video was biased
@iiii498
Жыл бұрын
Team Medea forever
@zachhecita
Жыл бұрын
I've only read Your Throne, but it seems to me that Medea and Navier are cut from the same cloth. The difference is that Medea is more Machiavellian. Now, if you ever read The Prince, you may recall that Machiavelli makes the case that the path you choose to gain power determines the probability of you retaining it. In Chapter 2, Machiavelli writes, "I say at once there are fewer difficulties in holding hereditary states, and those long accustomed to the family of their prince, than new ones; for it is sufficient only not to transgress the customs of his ancestors, and to deal prudently with circumstances as they arise, for a prince of average powers to maintain himself in his state, unless he be deprived of it by some extraordinary and excessive force; and if he should be so deprived of it, whenever anything sinister happens to the usurper, he will regain it." Violence, subterfuge, and military might make for an unstable foundation of a fledging government. It is preferable to acquire power through legal and traditional avenues. This is the advantage that Navier has over Medea. Marrying into power ensures legitimacy, and her apparent benevolence will pacify the population. It's been awhile since I read Your Thone, but I recall Medea's rise to power is marked with conspiracy and bloodshed. While Medea possesses the pragmatism that Machiavelli favored, her reliance on violence is volatile. This creates a climate of escalation, so she is forced to take ever-more extreme measures. In short, a throne won by the sword will fall by the sword.
@jell._.y
Жыл бұрын
Well if we're just talking about favorites I'm with medea 💜💜
@amvlover5405
9 ай бұрын
One thing both side discarded was Eros ... The key difference between Madea and Navier is their antagonist and if their situation was switched there was absloutly no way Navier could have survived Eros because she doesn't have the pride and greed that Madea have and she is not as intelligent (she is smart but not as much as Madea) Eros would have crushed Navier to the point of no return ... Navier situation with her husband was mostly neglect but Eros was actively trying to destroy Madea to put her out of compilation and Madea literally survived it ... Navier could not have survived Eros specially because Eros would've not been intrested in her like he was with Madea One more thing that they forgot to mention is that if their situation was reversed Madea always erase the problems before they happen which was one of the many reasons before Psyche come to picture and Eros get involved Madea was the most suitable candidate for becoming crown princess and empress by many including the current emperor (Eros father)
@user-dl4ql5uj6e
10 ай бұрын
All right navier lovers let's face this. Navier is a good person and all that but medea is just on another level. Navier would have been just a former empress if heinry wouldn't have married her. But medea became duchess on her own. If we exchange the circumstances of both of them medea would have burned both soveishit and trashta with her calculating moves in a glimpse of eye. But navier would have never been able to Last in front of eros. For me medea is always better politician, fighter, statergist and clever character.
@britishtoastqueen6505
Жыл бұрын
💜TEAM MEDEA💜
@oyizaheeba2856
Жыл бұрын
In terms of character development, Medea is better What is to be noticed between these webtoon series is that navier has nothing to fight for except her love and the power she holds, being an empress is in navier's DNA 😂 She was born for that but in Medea's case, she has to fight for life and power and love at the same time, 😶 it's not easy 🥲🥲😮💨 Medea has more to fight for than navier, she had lost important people in her live and is trying to find out her true self, well....navier also needs to do that too 😂 As for my personal expectations, I can't wait to see navier and heinrey's kids 🙈🙈 and to also see Medea and Helio's love story grow 😚😊🥰
@psyche5200
Жыл бұрын
medea has more flavor
@nameless_entity2070
Жыл бұрын
While Medea has also received training, Navier has the upper hand in this because she has been specifically trained to be an empress from very early on and is overall going to be better liked by the people of the nation. Medea being a more controversial person will probably have a hard time getting the public to love her completely. This has nothing to do with their capabilities just the fact that they hv different circumstances. HOWEVER, putting Medea low in politics is absolutely foul and wrong. She will be an amazing empress but she’ll just hv to put more effort in improving her reputation.
@rddosel7819
Жыл бұрын
What I really wanna add here is that medea won't have a problem in making the public love her since we see in the Noble trial arc that she can easily manipulate the public to think of her as a hero and made them like her if that will benefit her in any way
@nameless_entity2070
Жыл бұрын
@@rddosel7819 yeah yeah I totally agree. She knows how to manipulate public opinion very well. Her only difficulty will be that she won’t immediately be liked by the ppl because of her reputation of being murderous and cold. But she’s definitely smart enough to overcome that with time. As we can see in the story too that ppl are slowly warming up to her, especially after she won the martial arts festival
@aryahere_troubleincomin1843
Жыл бұрын
look idgaf about what ur saying but Medea is wayyyyyyyyy smarter than Navier. Also she is a great duchess that sustained her duchy even in money shortage after her father's execution. She has much more experience in politics and is a great strategist. Navier might be an amazing queen but Medea here is a KING. So PLZ this comparison is not even relevant. Medea is obv winning. No offence to Navier tho.
@Whoisnoodle
Жыл бұрын
I don’t wanna pick sides but…. Navier.
@jennyjd5052
Жыл бұрын
I don't wanna pick sides too, but... Medea
@Nyx_lament
Жыл бұрын
Medea all the way!
@aryahere_troubleincomin1843
Жыл бұрын
Uh no
@mara9783
Жыл бұрын
I don't want to pick sides so... Both.
@elyisaa_
Жыл бұрын
MEDEA BEST
@peanutbutterjellyfish
Жыл бұрын
Medea would abliterate navier. Naveier has never faced anyone intelligent.
@jillianmaxenetan4650
Жыл бұрын
a slander to every character in the series but fr. If we think about it Sovieshu (as the main antagonist in the series) is in downward trajectory from the start while Eros is an unpredictable psychopath who dreams to be a God.
@conchettart4152
Жыл бұрын
The way i snorted at this comment 😭😭 but fr Navier has the most braincells out of everyone in the webtoon while in Your Throne theyre all playing 5D chess. I never have any idea whats going to happen next
@Urmumheh
Жыл бұрын
Realest thing I've seen omg
@QueenSkorpio
Жыл бұрын
Team Navier, but I love the talking points!
@mystical.
Жыл бұрын
Medea
@graceh_5417
Жыл бұрын
in a fistfight medea wins but as for the better ruler? Navier hands down
@ItsAparnagaming_mlb-Lol
Жыл бұрын
Medea side pls.
@donapole
Жыл бұрын
Forgive me Navier lovers, but let's compare the facts. Medea would have won her in a sword fight, that's for sure. Navier comes to power thanks to a lover, and Medea herself became a duchess, having got all the cards in her hands, planning everything and successfully playing it. Most of the times when Medea was on the verge of death, she assumed, but took the risk, because in her world there is no other way. Against Navier, a narcissistic asshole with a dumb-headed mistress, she also has many allies. Medea, on the other hand, has in her enemies not only the genius-crown prince, practically the entire parliament and the temple (everyone is not against destroying the soles in order to take their place). The worlds of Navier and Medea are very different. And I am sure that if Medea comes to power and becomes empress NOT THANKS TO A LOVER, BUT DIFFERENT TO NAVIA, she will rule wisely and fairly, as she has changed thanks to psyche and perion. It is also fashionable to add that she does not have the protagonist's syndrome, even God is ready to set her up in order to save her psyche. p.s. I'm not from the USA, but from Germany, so I don't know American very well.
@khanolval9848
11 ай бұрын
Its english not American
@wasifabul2545
10 ай бұрын
Yeah Medea would win because she has been planning 4d chess since chapter 1 meanwhile Navier has never faced anyone incredibly intelligent
@DeadRoseBouquet
10 ай бұрын
Change madea's political stat, in the beginning you see how much her family has grown because of her secretly helping her father, she is extremely strong politically
@meta_morph17Yoshi
6 ай бұрын
Medea in her childhood was given the authority to rule her kingdom by her father, while Navier only learned to occupy the throne by marrying that bastard.Medea manipulates Halley and even defeats an entire army alone during battle. He didn't need help from Halley if he was attacked, and Navier couldn't even wield a sword at all.
@oluwaferanmiadenuga9749
Жыл бұрын
My two favourite female character . Both navier and medea since to have almost the same upbringing. I think medea will win . Medea was brought up not to trust anyone that why she doesn't have many allies, I mean take her father for an example. Both of her parent did not show her love. Medea was already genius yet her mother made sure she went to hell. I think both characters have different upbringing goal. Navier was taught to love and rule with compassion. Medea on the other hand was different her sole goal was to marry the crowd prince.
@crispyliza7050
Жыл бұрын
MEDEA FTW
@KatsIsWeird24
Жыл бұрын
It’s the pronunciations of the names that’s triggering me
@luvanime4life
Жыл бұрын
Both have strengths in different categories.
@ThatShyChef
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for having me!!! What a fun debate with Chibi!
@tuguldurtumee5059
Жыл бұрын
Yoooooo MY MAN !
@ThatShyChef
11 ай бұрын
YOOOOOO@@tuguldurtumee5059
@Rynziie
8 ай бұрын
I love Navier but lets be real Medea would win 😭
@souliswinter1024
Жыл бұрын
I'm already sick of compassionate and benevolent protagonists, so I choose Medea, a more controversial and imperfect character. Am I the only one like this?
@inaya_ik
Жыл бұрын
OKAY BUT WHY DOESN'T ANYONE COMPARE TWO MALE CHARACTERS EVER??? LIKE WHY?? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE WOMEN PITTED AGAINST EACH OTHER?? MEDEA AND NAVIER WOULD MAKE SUCH A GOOD TEAM. HELL, WHY DOESN'T ANYONE MAKE GL CHARACTERS BASED ON BOTH OF THEM??WHY FUCKIN NOT???
@liamostert1452
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I checked the channels videos and two weeks ago two male characters were pitted against each other idk what your talking about. 🤨
@saragh1631
10 ай бұрын
medea obviously, she's smarter and also she wouldn't leave her empire, she would probably kill that shit and become the only ruler😂
@2enty4
Жыл бұрын
Hardest choice in my life 😭😭
@ktl9915
Жыл бұрын
oh i thought it was about who would survive if they fought each other...
@pjayscribbles
Жыл бұрын
YOOOO LET'S GOOOO, it's amazing to see Shy chef and Chibi here ✨💕💕💕
@L_R53
Жыл бұрын
who feels spin off alternate reality AU where the two characters meet love both seies
@codypendragons
Жыл бұрын
I like the back and forth between the two gentlemen. A relatively boring question, was elevated by the argument's. Transforming the premise of a, "nah-ah mine is better than your's." Turning it Into a showcase between these two characters. Inviting the spectators to visit their story, making the introduction between these two parallels fun. The role swapping idea, was cool, comparing their ambition's the spectrum between self-centered motivation to altruistic ideal is great when used in a character's story's architecture. It works well in an individual's character Arc as well as when comparing two characters or contrasting there personalities. Unfortunately the discussion only promoted, mutually the two series. For the listener it may, or may not provide them with a definitive answer to the question itself. 🚺🆚🚺🗝️🥇🥇🙈🙉🙊👸🏻🥂
@Lanex-zb4jv
Жыл бұрын
Both is good
@Itsurfav_rosa
Жыл бұрын
Navier will always be my favorite character ever❤
@karinaguardia5159
3 ай бұрын
Yeah, Medea lost it for 3 years, but you have to remember everything she lost: the chance to get the throne, the posibility to escape her abusive father, the life of her Nana (basically her real mother) and the closest female friend she ever had to (in her point of view) treason. That loss at the competition REALLY wrecked her life, the only thing she had left was Helio, who was also HEAVILY traumatized and dependant of Medea.
@PragnaMinari
Жыл бұрын
Well I like them both but on choosing sides Definitely Medea because she defines a strong independent woman ♀️👠
@a_happy_little_flower
6 ай бұрын
I love media much more tbh because she was able to persist so well in her circumstances. she simply addapted to her position by being more selfish since she wouldnt have survived if not. if she was in a more powerful situation i think she would still be cunning but much more compassionate
@albedoshrimp
Жыл бұрын
sorry but… navier is my girlie
@yor_3
Жыл бұрын
Fr u guys makes me want to participate in those WEBTOON versus
@webtoonofficial
Жыл бұрын
who should we do next? 🤔🤔
@yor_3
Жыл бұрын
Gamin yoo from study group VS Daniel from Lookism
@johannabananna6414
Жыл бұрын
I want more of this, I enjoy watching this very much
@jell._.y
Жыл бұрын
MY QUEENS 👍
@webtoonofficial
Жыл бұрын
THAT'S RIGHT
@eleina7405
Жыл бұрын
Hmm, this is a bit of a hard one since they both have their own strong suits but personally I think that Navier would win. I haven't read Your Throne in a little while so maybe I would change my mind if I saw more of the new stuff but I feel like it would be pity and bias to say Medea is stronger because she has been through more or is better at fighting. Navier is highly adaptive, and she can be cold when she chooses to be. Even when her kindness wasn't recognized, it didn't really seem like it hurt her. So far at least I can't think of a time where Navier was kind to a fault. Also I liked when it was pointed out that Navier spiraled for a few days when her life fell apart, but Medea spiraled for a few years. If they were put in a physical fight with no one else, Medea would win 100% but if you were to put them against each other in any other situation Navier would probably win so by default, Navier wins this debate! 🎉 Personally, that's what I think at least. 😅
@Berries136
6 ай бұрын
( In my opinion ) I'll go with Medea CUZZ like I'm that typa girl who likes the trope "Work harder not smarter" ( not like completely ) PLUS I like Helion more than the blondie guy that Navier marries. Soooo TEAM MEDEA Btw are those Diary of a wimpy kid books in the back grounds? 7:33
@Marie-Aria
Ай бұрын
Plus, Medea studied how to be an empress in her childhood just like Navier so Navier is just nothing better than Medea
@Strawberrycore3
Жыл бұрын
The recovery the decides she wouldn't have been held back navier in her story she is a empress and she shows what a empress is
@DerNimation-qz1tc
Жыл бұрын
Navier best in every way
@Hihihihi937
7 ай бұрын
MEDEA IS NOWHERE NEAR LOW ON POLITICS BRUH😭😭😭 Medea literally rose to her own position as duchess and now, she's the empress already all on her own💀💀 Navier never faced her circumstances alone, she had to go to another nation in order to achieve her goal
@chanchal.chauhan
Жыл бұрын
Medea is amazing and i like her but I like Navier better for alot of reasons that Medea doesn't have
@kittycat4934
Жыл бұрын
I would say navier im a big fna of both but navier realistically would win
@ginkage5863
Жыл бұрын
Nice debate and to be honest on my own I can't really choose😆 Hallo Chibi 😆👍
@Zz_ThEcLoWn
Жыл бұрын
NAVIERRT BABBBYYYY
@Marie-Aria
Ай бұрын
How could you think Medea could be good from the start, look at her parents
@jell._.y
Жыл бұрын
LOVES OF MY LIFE
@elyse2339
9 ай бұрын
wait I’m not finished with that bottle yet
@Little-Miss-Bunny
Жыл бұрын
I love both stories and Charakters! I can't decide…!! But… I relate to Navier more. Sorry, Medea… ;)
@tuguldurtumee5059
Жыл бұрын
Navier won by default.
@Noodelousart123
Жыл бұрын
Both Girlbosses 💯
@blooming_rei
Жыл бұрын
Hard one but have to go w my empress navier
@sleepcanwait_
3 ай бұрын
This started feeling quite biased the moment they said Medea wasn't as good as Navier in politics. Clearly, havent actually read Your throne.
@malathiwickramaratnewickra5105
Жыл бұрын
Team Navier here ❤ 👇
@psyduck2250
Жыл бұрын
This video was brilliant! I only a read a few chapters from each but now I’m definitely willing to read them
@tuguldurtumee5059
Жыл бұрын
Shy chef is here. let’s go!
@rionlouisramos3477
Жыл бұрын
omg love!
@CoeGr
Жыл бұрын
I have a unrelated question. Is Eleceed the high rated webtoon on the site?
@Noodelousart123
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@CommunistCreeper
Жыл бұрын
Navier
@TheStarsArtist
Жыл бұрын
Navier❤❤❤❤❤😊
@unalivesuccubus6747
Жыл бұрын
Here for Navier ❤❤ my queen ❤❤
@akuncadangan9862
Ай бұрын
LOL. This was biased. Noticed how they just love the comment siding with Navier?
@evia0913
4 ай бұрын
Rashta would've died earlier if Medea and Navier switched and she will definitely overthrow Soveshu on his throne via coup cause she's more capable than him. After watching it again I find this video biased. How come Medea got low score on politics when she's great at it inthe first place?!
@langmuir-hinshelwood1686
9 күн бұрын
She would run circles over every character in remarried empress. I doubt Sovieshu and Rashta survive 10 chapters if Medea was the empress. Medea had to lie, kill and scheme her way to survive in Your Throne while Navier gets stuff handed to her like a better husband.
@moonlightontheriver10
8 ай бұрын
navier, obviously 🤷♀️
@raniajasmine979
11 ай бұрын
i fricking punched my screen when TRASHTA showed up man...wth 🤬
@remi613
5 ай бұрын
why is she low on politics oh my god
@historiareiss8750
5 ай бұрын
I prefer pscys she best written girl. Not mary sue issues. One FL zero to hero.
@frozen얼린
10 ай бұрын
아니 미친 이런것도 한국 공식에 올리라고
@remi613
5 ай бұрын
what the hell is this 😭
@tazbih4883
11 ай бұрын
Team Navier!!!!!!!!📢💥❤️
@bunny_bunbun401
Жыл бұрын
In terms of ruler Navier would obliterate Medea Politics: Navier since she was taught about politics from a young age as well as Medea but Navier knows much more and Navier has more experience as a ruler which means she knows much more about politics Combat: some people say that Medea would obliterate Navier but the people who bought the book would know that Navier has ice powers but even so Medea would win cause Navier still hasn't gotten used to her powers and doesn't know how to use them In general Medea and Navier know how to play their cards right Navier is a better ruler Better character: both
@janemorgan7028
Жыл бұрын
Navier 100% idc😂
@LiaMark-vd9gu
Жыл бұрын
I honestly believe that Navier would probably win that fight 👇 Like if you agree
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