I don't think people fully understand the ways in which British racism behaves differently to American racism. They are the same beast with similar instincts, but they are from completely different environments and react differently to the same stimuli. British racism is very archaic in comparison to American racism. I think it's fair to say that, broadly, in American racism, the closer to white (or less Black) you look, the easier things are for you. British racism seizes on the faintest whisper of anything other than the correct kind of whiteness (even in fully white people) and others a person in lots of very subtle, almost imperceptible, ways and then violently gaslights the person for recognising the othering. There's a whole generation of British people that don't see or treat Eastern Europeans and Irish people as being white like them. Up until the 80s, it was super common to see signs for rooms to rent that proudly displayed "No Blacks, No dogs, No Irish". Prince Philip is a great example of this, because when he wanted to marry Elizabeth, a LOT of the royal establishment hated the idea of anybody Greek mixing in with them EVEN THOUGH HE SHARES AN ANCESTOR WITH ELIZABETH. My ex is fully white (family can be traced to an old Scottish clan) with Jewish heritage on his mother's side. Even though almost nobody in his family practices, that didn't stop other students on his master's programme from literally throwing pennies on the floor and telling him to grab them up when they were having lunch. The gaslighting here is next level. Historically, it's because Britain never really had to live in and amongst its colonial violence the way America and the Carribbean did. Because the British are so committed to the idea of themselves as being great and bountiful civilisers, the narrative in Britain when talking about anything colonial is always crowded with people shouting at the top of their lungs that Britain abolished the slave trade while conveniently glossing over the fact that Britain instituted it in the first place and paid reparations to slave owners up until 2015. So, I'm inclined to be sympathetic to Meghan for not realising what she was getting into. Not just because her mother never bothered to tell her about this stuff until she was in her late 30s, but because Meghan probably thought that she would benefit from American racism, colourism, texturism & featurism.
@chelseacruz889
Жыл бұрын
This was fantastic complimentary analysis. Thanks for that eye opening insight. Really interesting to consider the ways in which culture impacts how systemic racism manifests.
@Tttttttttttttttt484
Жыл бұрын
🎉
@10Vernonplace
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rumademedoit
Жыл бұрын
Exactly you ate that
@Ohsnapitzann
Жыл бұрын
I have tons of empathy for Meagan because being discriminated against is a very sad , traumatic experience to deal with.
@TaureanBaby
Жыл бұрын
She wasn't too aware because she didn't have to be. Her mother did her a disservice for not speaking about race but maybe she didn't because she figured her daughter was so fair skin that she wouldn't have an issue.
@candygirl20048
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And if Meg had never married Harry, she would have lived the rest of her life completely oblivious to anti-Black racism because the world doesn’t see her as Black.
@birdiewolf3497
Жыл бұрын
Sure, but mind you all of this happened ONLY because she married into the British royal family. Had she not done that Meghan would have been fine. I feel like we miss that in this discussion.
@cutietae247
Жыл бұрын
@@birdiewolf3497 exactly . She lived a basic life for years until she made the choice to be with Harry.
@birdiewolf3497
Жыл бұрын
@@cutietae247 Like I just want to underscore how fucking racist they are over in England because nobody cared here in big bad racist Amerikkka. I mean sure her mama should have spoken about it, because it is an important thing to talk about. But it wasn't all that necessary for her to navigate her life.
@KimberlyNicoleFoster89
Жыл бұрын
@@birdiewolf3497 Maybe she wouldn't have married Harry, but she could've made another decision that would've subjected her to virulent anti-black racism. I was taught all kinds of information that I've yet to use. That doesn't mean the teaching wasn't valuable.
@MelaninlikeGold
Жыл бұрын
What i appreciate about Meghan is that she recognizes that she doesn't have the same lived experiences of black women. As a black woman I appreciate a biracial woman especially a white passing woman highlighting the fact that we aren't treated the same. I feel like a lot of the time biracials will hear about our experience and either dismiss it or try to minimize it.
@Black.hole.
Жыл бұрын
I agree! She’s white passing, period. And I’m glad that she’s able to admit that the experiences are different
@RNM-bu4rj
Жыл бұрын
@@Black.hole. she talked about it some more on her podcast with Mariah Carey.
@bruell
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@LotsofLisa
Жыл бұрын
… or act like they’re going through it too alongside unambiguous black women. That’s the worst because it’s so ridiculous.
@MayMay-el4wg
Жыл бұрын
Growing up in a predominantly lightskin, mixed family and in a neighborhood full of the same, there was never any race talks. Whatever the adults experienced they kept among themselves.
@IshtarNike
Жыл бұрын
Sad that I missed this live. So much to comment on. British racism and American racism are definitely different but more so in matters of degree than kind perhaps. Typical example is police brutality and criminal justice. We have much of the same problems but often less violent or egregious. Police aren't armed so you don't get police shootings like that (it does happen tho, RIP Chris Kaba), BUT black men disproportionately die in police custody and we are disproportionately imprisoned and impoverished. Also, as an aside it's worth remembering that South Asians are the biggest non-white minority in the UK, black people are only 2-3% of the population. We're actually over represented on TV (the white supremacists hate it lol), but we're pretty few and far between except in London and a few other cities. Taking things back to Megan for a moment. I'll comment on one thing. People seem to think she's lying about herself or ridiculously naive for "finding out about racism" in her 30s. I think people are missing the point. If you live a sheltered life and have not experienced any serious racism directed at you then your *emotional* experience of racism isn't there. I can relate because as a black boy in a certain part of London I didn't experience any serious racism growing up (it happened I think 3 times probably but I was always popular and lots of black friends at school as well as white so it was never a proper power dynamic). It's only when I went to Asia and felt people truly othering me and fearing me that I FELT the racism. This was at university and I could already quote plenty of statistics and facts about race and racism. But nothing compares to feeling it yourself and it still comes as a *kind* of shock to the system. An emotional shock even if you were fully expecting it (which I was, I did my research before travelling). I think people who've experienced racism all their life just aren't able to understand that you can indeed go for decades sometimes without it being driven home to you.
@callme_burbu5976
Жыл бұрын
This comment is so thoughtful and well expressed. I really hate how people are attacking Meghan for her truth.
@Covers-and-Commentary
Жыл бұрын
@@Laura-lc2iothat’s interesting because most mass shooters are…you guessed it; White!!! Yet white people don’t experience the same level of discrimination.
@ashleywatkins1258
Жыл бұрын
@@Laura-lc2io so.... all drug dealers in the world are black? good to know.....
@Laura-lc2io
Жыл бұрын
@@ashleywatkins1258 No. But they were in my neighborhood. Can you read?
@Laura-lc2io
Жыл бұрын
@Covers and Commentary And they should and are in prisons. We've got every right to do live in a society without them just like without drug dealers and thieves. No one deserves discrimination just because of skin colour but using prisoners is pure manipulation.
@KendraRN
Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you’re talking about this aspect. Meghan’s mom did her a huge disservice. I think every parent, regardless of race, should have open, honest, age appropriate conversations with their children about race, misogyny, prejudices that plagues the world.
@Constantin9va
Жыл бұрын
I could see Doria not wanting Meg to feel the negative effects of racism if she could move through the world as a white person. Turns out that was a bad move, but I see a kind of logic behind it.
@confessionsofajadedoptimist
Жыл бұрын
She was raised to be bi racial
@KendraRN
Жыл бұрын
@@Constantin9va Sounds like Doria needs a lesson herself.
@talkswithtanya
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but being talked to and actually experiencing it at a larger scale are two different things
@babyjki444
Жыл бұрын
omg hey! i was not expecting this crossover lol.
@nandi3052
Жыл бұрын
I find it strange that Meghan grew up in a predominantly black neighbourhood, has a black mom & was raised with the help of her black gran too, but her whole adult life she doesn’t have a single black friend & resonates more with ytness, & believed she was yt. She was shocked that anyone would be racist towards her cos in her mind she had ingratiated herself so much in ytness that she thought all parts that would’ve been black about her would be scrubbed clean.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
She did not grow up in a predominantly black neighborhood.
@malikas6055
Жыл бұрын
She grew up with her father, not her mother. She went to predominantly white upper middle class schools and associated with white. That is the issue. She was not exposed to her Blackness which was really a disservice
@greatsweetnice
Жыл бұрын
They definitely said she moved into a neighborhood that was predominantly black at the time. I heard it, and wondered these same things. She may have lived with her dad at certain times, but her mother was her primary parent. Parents share custody all the time. She still spent too much time around her black mother, for her to not identify at all with blackness. It’s weird. Now, when she’s been thrown away, she’s aligning herself with black celebrities, and appealing to black people. No, trips to Africa don’t count as connecting to black people. We all know what those trips were about.
@vaimende
Жыл бұрын
@@greatsweetnice all those trips to Africa she started before Harry and she never called herself white, you guys just reaching so you have an excuse to hate her, she talks about her mother experiencing more racism than her because her mother is fully black! What do you want her to do? Lie and make up stories about racism
@AntoinetteD
Жыл бұрын
As a mom to mixed kids, I was floored when Doria said she didn't really talk about race with little Meghan like that. It couldn't be me.
@125loopy
Жыл бұрын
I think Meghan was so white passing that she didn't think she had to. I was surprised when Wendell Pierce was cast as her father on Suits. I had no idea she was biracial.
@ashlouw5350
Жыл бұрын
@@125loopy They said she was the one that also pushed that they the race of her dad this was before Harry.
@AntoinetteD
Жыл бұрын
If my kids straightened their hair and got a nose job, if Meghan did, then my kids could pass, but I still couldn't do that to them. I like whatever Zendaya's parents did with raising her to be aware of her blackness.
@nae6485
Жыл бұрын
@@125loopy I think her mom set her up and wanted her to pass as white… she don’t even got Black cousin friends???
@ZZ-mh2nv
Жыл бұрын
Well Doria s method worked...until it didn't.
@lalalala67021
Жыл бұрын
I have no problem with Megan but I don't know why I should even feel bad for her at all. Like at some point I feel like we have to take our own personal accountability. People acting like she married into this nice family that suddenly turned out to be racist. But like no the Royal Family has been built on racism and discrimination and it's a well known fact.
@veeceey1073
Жыл бұрын
Same, my sympathy is capped. I do think the way Meghan has been treated by the RF and especially British press is terrible, but at the same time, you married into the British royal family…like girl. She believed the myth that the U.K. is less racist and look where it got her.
@prairieflower7967
Жыл бұрын
I am sure hindsight is 20/20 but at the same time them telling their story serves in historical context in reaction to the think pieces and the UK media hate campaign. In seeing the documentary I just see them telling their side finally. The media makes millions off of them I think it’s smart for to tell their side.
@AllTheArtsy
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Like, it should not take the brightest political mind to know that the British Royal Family engaged in some of the most horrific forms of imperialism, slavery and genocide.
@confessionsofajadedoptimist
Жыл бұрын
she would still be there now if they would have treated her better. She thought she was going to be able to fix the royal family with her presence lol. But Harry wanted to leave and used her as an excuse
@nae6485
Жыл бұрын
The man she married literally wearing a n@zi uniform like come on now
@mzzzzzzday
Жыл бұрын
idk why people hate Meghan so much. Especially Americans. Like?? lmao
@MVK123
Жыл бұрын
She's soooo fake
@Jessica.Shawnte
Жыл бұрын
I don’t keep up with her so I wouldn’t know but people say I hate her because I refuse to call her a black women
@LindaMitchell
Жыл бұрын
Same! She's not problematic that I've seen.
@Carlinisalive
Жыл бұрын
@@Jessica.Shawnte do you consider Obama, J. Cole, Drake, Halle Berry, Carmelo Anthony, Shermar Moor, Tracee Ellis Ross, Mariah Carey, and Alicia Keys as not black too? Or are they just black only when it’s convenient?
@NOLAqueen504A
Жыл бұрын
@@Jessica.Shawnte exactly because she is not black she is biracial but you know can’t call a spade a spade for some reason
@oliviatheresa
Жыл бұрын
I'm biracial born to a black mother and my mom was the best mom in the world but she didn't have the race conversation with me either. She avoided it at all turns because she was a woman who just didn't think it was needed. She was a very independent black woman who in the 1970s and 80s wanted to be a seen as just a woman not necessarily a black woman. I think she just thought being biracial was not a big deal. Thankfully when I was 4 years old she married a wonderful black man who adopted me and had those conversations with me and made sure I was very proud of my black side and gave me the tools to handle a racist world. I think no matter what race you are these conversations are very important especially in 2022! Did all that make sense? I hope so lol💯
@angel127_
Жыл бұрын
same. my mum is somali and immigrated to the UK in the early 90s as a teenager and had a father who worked here since his teenage yrs (‘50s) who brought her over here. whenever i brought up racism in this country she would always deny it and talk ab how grateful she was to live here compared to her home country as if Britain doesn’t have issues. i was like two things can be true at once- u can be glad to live in a country but also recognise the racism/micro aggressions u faced. she literally had a brain haemorrhage when i was 2 and didn’t receive medical help for nearly a whole day and they completely dismissed her pain. not to mention her father had a stroke a year after she came here and passed away from medical negligence bc he was a black man who’s pain wasn’t taken srsly. but she never thought to discuss any of this w me until now, but luckily i had the internet and good friends to help me along the way lol. i was also always proud of being surrounded by somali culture so that helped a lot too
@marie-francoiset9402
Жыл бұрын
@@angel127_ cut your mom a little slack. Your mom is an immigrant. You can't expect an immigrant to have the same reaction to racism the way a native born has. That's just reality. You were privileged to be born somewhere she was basically a guest in. A privilege she provided for you. She couldn't complain.
@angel127_
Жыл бұрын
@@marie-francoiset9402 god who was complaining😭 i know i have privileges and i’m so grateful for everything she’s been through to get to where she is today, but i am also allowed to educate her on things that affect her like racism or misogyny and other systemic issues
@JoannaCubana
Жыл бұрын
Yes, it did. And I'm glad that your Dad had the "talk " with you. Many mixed kids don't and sometimes are so confused about who they are...🦋
@MayMay-el4wg
Жыл бұрын
@@JoannaCubana …born to a Cajun mom and Creole dad so l’ve never been confused by who or what l am. I consider myself a mixed person and since my skin is tan l’m one drop under Black. However, my mixed upbringing is always tantamount to who l am and l find other BP are very accepting of me. The 1% don’t count 😂😂😂😂😂
@jjamerican93
Жыл бұрын
I'll admit that I was surprised to hear her mom Doria say that she didn't talk about racism with her daughter. Like, why not? But I really do like how Meghan does embrace her biracial identity and is honest about the privileges she has as a light-skinned woman in this society. Her treatment in the UK by the Royal Family and the media does show that race is indeed a social construct and can change based on where you live. I look forward to watching the second half of this docuseries.
@bonita-u9ve
Жыл бұрын
Course she didn't tell her daughter the nasty side . She's the type of mother who wants to coddle her daughter from the realities of institutional racism , class prejudice and elitism . Not only can they find a reason not to like Megan based upon her ethnicity but her mom's nationality and the issue of etiquette which is knowing which fork to use for a particular dish and certain manners taught to the daughters of the rich which is recognised by others shown these classic secrets . The only thing that matters to Megan mom is that she married up and knows her worth .She didn't waste time .
@LotsofLisa
Жыл бұрын
I liked the part where she said she talked to her ex/Meghan’s father to ask him what in the world is he doing and why. “She’s your daughter!” I always wondered if she said anything to him…. I think her mom didn’t think she would really need the whole race rundown because she was fair enough to not have to worry about it , then… enter the Brits.
@unicornsrice1667
Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised she didn't. I'm more surprised people have/had these discussions. My family never did. But, it's a good conversation to have, I think.
@MayMay-el4wg
Жыл бұрын
This is not normal conversation unless your parents are activists or something. I was raised as a suburban kid with two biracial parents. No one talked about race issues anywhere that l remember. We were busy being teens. All this race stuff is more or less social media driven and will eventually die down. I get people are floored that mixed race people exist around the world which l think is pretty cool.
@staysunny170
Жыл бұрын
Black kids with 2 black parents don't have the luxury to not have that talk.
@ChrissyPoo516
Жыл бұрын
This commentary is so spot-on 👏🏾 but I still have so many questions! I find it quite interesting that mixed race celebrities such as Tia & Tamera Mowry and Elaine Welterwroth identify as Black (who also have Black mothers and White fathers) and both emphatically talk about the fact their Black mothers sat them down to speak about race in America and how the world will treat them despite being mixed race. When you broke it down about her mother most likely being a hippie from a color blind utopia, that definitely gives great perspective to why this all came as a shock to Megan.
@malikas6055
Жыл бұрын
Her mother avoided the race talk. It blew up in her face
@ronny_ron2168
Жыл бұрын
“White men be just as raggedy” 😂 speak on it! Lol
@sdc8598
Жыл бұрын
$40 for a party that has an open bar is not over priced so dropping to $25 for even a limited time is a kind gesture of making event even more accessible.
@smileysky14
Жыл бұрын
Very generous! I’m NY bound and $40 gets you into no parties with a venue that pretty lol
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
That's honestly 2 good cocktails, party on ppl!!!!
@incognitonegress3453
Жыл бұрын
We buy what we want then beg 4 what we need. She has the platform. AND she actually gives back, so.... 🤔 100$ wouldn't b much either. We always tryna exploit 1 another.
@Luna-kb3sr
Жыл бұрын
$40 is nothing for an open bar and I live in South Carolina 🥴😂😂😂
@Liiinda4
Жыл бұрын
Megan Markle gives me “Imitation of Life” vibes. How does Mariah Carey who actually looks white and has a white mother experience racism, but Megan never did until recently? Something in the buttermilk ain’t clean.
@includingsociety8301
Жыл бұрын
I wish Megan and Harry could take a stand against Monarchy - it’s disappointing that they were for the institution as long as they were protected within. I hate how this documentary uses historians and journalists to say radical things like reparations but Harry and Meghan don’t. They seem disgruntled by what happened to them rather than having a bigger issue with monarchy. Also it’s manipulative that when they showed the part on the commonwealth calling for change they use Kate and William footage and not theirs. For eg in South Africa many of us didn’t care for Harry and Meghan either. Nor do some of us think Meghan looks like us like Suggested in the doc. They also went on commonwealth tours - they saw value in their royal duties , to me that doesn’t suggest they have an issue with the monarchy itself, they have an issue with the family, it’s a family feud but for this doc to have broad appeal they had to politicise it . That to me is disingenuous. And also I found the issue of race and understanding of race inconsistently dealt with- some parts Meghan identifies as African American- then she uses the “people of colour” Term and she never says black. It would be nice to know what they understand of those terms and how race works in the UK etc
@CrystalM1917
Жыл бұрын
I think that they don't fully support the history of the monarchy however if they could work within it to make things better with their own projects, they might have seen that as a worthwhile endeavor considering two people trying to singlehandedly dismantle this institution would be quite the feat.
@includingsociety8301
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that’s where I get confused by their story- there aren’t any specifics from their side on what exactly they wanted to change from within the institution other than the relationship with the media and that’s only self serving - they talk about Meghan perhaps utilising her race for the benefit of the commonwealth but they don’t even say at a basic level how they wanted to do that and what exactly was resisted by the institution. Everything is so vague. They won’t name names or reveal text messages or emails - we are just supposed to take their word. They clearly love Philip and Elizabeth which makes me think there isn’t criticism but they are the foundation of this institution. Harry is still torn by family care institution- he thinks these are separable in convenient cases like with his grandparents and they are not. I think they could have been clearer on all their grievances but the only clarity I got is that they both hate negative and racist press but If Diana was treated the same way by the press, some might say she was treated far worse and she Isnt black, how much of this is racism and how much of it is just what comes with the position ? I don’t deny the fact of a racist media but I don’t see how it’s so particularly unique here from other black notable people who are similarly persecuted by the media. They strain to particularise their plight and they didn’t quite clear the bar for me. I would have better appreciated a simpler story of self determination without all these other half baked narratives that they don’t truly commit to but merely allude to …they still want to maintain a sense of deniability and I don’t understand why at this very late stage of this drama
@CrystalM1917
Жыл бұрын
But i don't think they were there long enough to even figure any of that out. Meghan did do something noteworthy with the cookbook in the time she was there...which would have never happened otherwise, we both know that, so I think they would have continued to find ways to make a difference in areas within the commonwealth the other members of the family would/could not authentically attempt to even if by just wanting to look good bc it's not been historically characteristic of them. I think that was much of what Harry was alluding to, and given the fact Meghan looks more like the people who make up the commonwealth. I could see Diana having done the same but could never see Kate. But again, the stories would not stop bc they cannot outshine William and Kate in popularity as the future heir apparent and queen consort to the throne. So when the institution you're working for is working against you then what is the point in staying in it. And while the press was bad for many members of the family, the press only really got bad with Diana when she divorced Charles, not while newlyweds, etc. Yes they were intrusive and bullying but didnt get personally vindictive until she split. You cannot remove the racist slant tied into Meghan's experience with the press as the two were interwoven neatly and tidily, some overt & some less so giving way to a total free for all when it came to her by the time of their break with the RF. Never in a million years would they compare prince George or Louie to a monkey for instance...I mean that's how far...while clearly the most overt....they were willing to go with Meghan and Harry which is completely outrageous and very expository at the end of the day with what they were ultimately dealing with. There were a lot of narratives going on but they are still going ehich may be why thyre half baked...they had a lot going on at one time, i.e. Meghan's family. Their credibility is shot to me given the information we do know so I'm not waiting on hearing from them. If they continue to do the humanitarian work then I think they're still setting out to accomplish what they wanted. I think the deniability aspect comes from it being something they cannot prove outright legally. I'm sure they don't want to be sued for false accusations/slander etc. Basically making claims that cannot be proven, which is part of why they are in the spot they're in as it is, trying to tell their story/experience without getting sued, as the other side can easily take legal action if they aren't careful. I saw some disclaimers throughout the documentary as well.
@MelaninlikeGold
Жыл бұрын
I agree. I was very uncomfortable with Harry and Meghan willingness to use Meghan essentially as a token for the commonwealth. I think it was important to use historians in terms of educating about the monarchy and the commonwealth . However i also believe it's a cop-out because they aren't ignorant.
@rosiebottom3870
Жыл бұрын
@@CrystalM1917 just to correct you on the "monkey" story. It was a retro photo used on a journalists private twitter. Danny Baker, an anti monarchist who rightly was sacked for doing it. Do I think he meant it in a racist way? No but he was old enough to know better. There was no "they", it was one individual who put the photo up. No one in the UK media supported him. It is comments like "they allowed it in the UK" that gives the impression that UK journalists can just run riot. What's forgotten is the positive media coverage she received which far outweighed the negative. She has taken on the press and created chaos in her life which will not end well for her.
@IshtarNike
Жыл бұрын
One thing that's frustrating in this conversation, and I'm not even mixed but I can literally see it happening in the comments, is the damned if you do damned if you don't place of mixed people. There are people upset that she can be called black. They want her to identify as biracial or mixed. But at the same time! At the same goddamn time people are coming for her for not understanding racism, for not having black friends, for not telling her agent she's half black, for not "getting" racism. How is it that some black people want to make sure biracial people are seen as NOT black, but also punish them for not being exactly the same as black people, having lots of black friends and understanding the black experience the way we do. Which is it?! Because it seems like an impossible standard to meet and you're proving her point when she said she was too white for the black kids and too black for the white kids.
@maiwind1819
Жыл бұрын
Some people thinking are backwards .
@redrumnoir7552
Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see this comment because it’s so true. There’s literally nothing you can do as a mixed person but be quiet and hold your head down so you don’t bother anybody by existing out loud. It’s bullshit.
@prairieflower7967
Жыл бұрын
I think the reason so because in media and in many different institutions they push biracial people as black. Some black people feel they are taking over their parts in movies and shows. In general the media prefer lighter skin.
@ad2094
Жыл бұрын
I don't get this simplification. She is biracial, so identifying as what she is , isn't something radical. And being half black half white, with a black mother, it does strike a little strange that she doesn't seem to have more black relationships. And perhaps that wouldn't matter so much if she didn't go on to become this face of UK racial discrimination where she's constantly being asked about being black, so it rankles for some people. That's understandable. It's not necessarily about being mixed. Fully black people, depending on their socioeconomic, phenotype and ethnic background can also feel alienated from a stereotyped "blackness". That doesn't mean they're not black and it doesn't mean Megan is not mixed.
@christine3477
Жыл бұрын
This. People want any reason to spew their hate.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
Meghan pulls Serena out the drawer when it’s time for interviews but I have yet to see them in a casual interaction as with the ‘vlogs’ of her with her other friends. Interesting.
@Mrs.Grammaticus
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂!
@Outlawgirl63
Жыл бұрын
They’re aren’t really friends Serena . She’s her Token
@sunnysideup1218
Жыл бұрын
I'm born and raised in California. Im Black. My daughter is mixed with her father is Latin and white. She is Latin passing to most non-black people. Her curls are VERY loose. I still had and continue having race talks with her. But, I do come from parents that were born before segregation ended so I do have a different perspective. I believe it's our duty as a parents of mixed race kids to educate them.
@Bn20033
Жыл бұрын
You look so happy and gorgeous, it is such a delight to watch you Kim!
@Angela-uw5kt
Жыл бұрын
I do wonder if her Mom has self hate because why would you fail your child like this? Maybe because she could pass? It’s also weird she’s not close with Black family members
@amab1853
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, thats very strange
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
Yup and let's be honest her baby daddy looks and acts like a bottom shelf Brad. So clearly, we ain't seeing the whole picture, unless we are...
@Black.hole.
Жыл бұрын
@@ekg891 this!! I thought it was so strange that she didn’t talk about any of her mom’s side of the family (maybe she’s an only child, idk) but she talked a lot about her dad’s and the niece and her grandmother (her fathers mother) AND the fact she had NO Black friends (besides Serena Williams), I was like, it’s giving very much “align with whiteness”
@user-ul4lf3zh8z
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t that more to do with Doria inheriting family property once her parents passed away? That might’ve caused a major schism in the family due to Jealously etc. I don’t think shes distant from her family due to any alleged self hatred
@Black.hole.
Жыл бұрын
1:00:37 I’m sorry - this argument of Megan isn’t white passing because we know her mother is Black is bullshit lol - she didn’t have a “Black experience” until she was already married to a very powerful, very wealthy, very WHITE, man. Her entire life BEFORE she was 30 and married to a royal, she was socially accepted as white, which makes her white passing. And let’s just say for arguments sake, that she can no longer pass, it doesn’t make her Black. She is mixed race or a woman of color, period. It’s really not in DSBW best interest to claim Blackness for Megan.
@AddBowIfGirl
Жыл бұрын
faith frye But what is her mix? She’s black and white.
@Black.hole.
Жыл бұрын
@@AddBowIfGirl exactly
@birdi3beez
Жыл бұрын
White passing is historically a deliberate thing that people do to hide their black heritage. As far as I know, Megan wasn’t hiding her mother or the fact that her mother is black. By definition she’s not white passing.
@Black.hole.
Жыл бұрын
@@birdi3beez that’s not the true definition- that is a definition in the context of the times. In today’s time, she is white passing
@camille3083
Жыл бұрын
She would not pass as white after slavery. She looks mulatto. Her daughter is white passing.
@DunDunDun45
Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I was floored with Doria. You’re telling you you lived in WOODLAND HILLS in LA during the RODNEY KING RIOTS and you had no talk with Meghan about race?? No talk between you and your husband at the time? Nope-unacceptable
@amab1853
Жыл бұрын
That is shocking. Especially during the time period Meghan grew up. The late 80s/90s with the LA riots.
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
All black women EVERYWHERE are side eying the mother.
@moded_corroded8132
Жыл бұрын
This! Rodney King, Latasha Harlin, OJ was all going down in Meghan's formative years so her and her mama just had their heads in the sand.
@harmony323
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is not a California thing
@Jbelovedson
Жыл бұрын
She’s still not Black presenting. As a child she’s still not Black presenting. She’s Brown presenting in her racial ambiguity. As she gets older, like we all do, we start to change. So, I’m in the L.A. and am not distantly far from the industry, I’m telling you right now, they’re treating her as an other and not as a Black woman. I’ve used to rent a room with a Black woman and they were a mixed family literally from grandma on down everyone was mixed, they’re are born and raised California. They completely believed that they’re not Black but used the term when convenient. Some are white presenting others look Latina so the Dora thing is very much a thing in California. Needless to say I have distanced myself from that roommate and family. it’s been years. But I’ve never experienced Black people who were so delusional and used a Blackness as currency and exchange.
@atienoc3182
Жыл бұрын
Her comment, treated me like a black woman. Her facial expression and tone. No no. She was passing as white and enjoying it. She is too aware of this and has played the race 💳.
@nataliekhanyola5669
Жыл бұрын
Meghan has claimed her black heritage multiple times, she's not playing the race card, the racist family that she married into is.
@nataliekhanyola5669
Жыл бұрын
Meghan has claimed her black heritage multiple times, she's not playing the race card, the racist family that she married into is.
@nataliekhanyola5669
Жыл бұрын
Meghan has claimed her black heritage multiple times, she's not playing the race card, the racist family that she married into is.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
End of.
@ohworldgirl
Жыл бұрын
The way she said: treated like a Black woman - that' just landed weird for me on so many levels. I feel like it may have indicated that Doria disposition for Black race - you know kind of like Tiger Woods and Kind of Like Byron Allen's hints of attitude toward the black people that end up showing up in their kids. I like Meghan and - also Tiger Woods but I do think these folks have made it clear time and time again that they do have serious issues identifying with the Black race. "Treated like a Black woman" is a weird way of saying something- when your own immediate family are black.
@lottaleshea8650
Жыл бұрын
Even though I've frequently dated mixed raced men I've been conscience in my decision to date men who primarily identify as black who have a black experience and black social touchstones so it would not be so hard. But on the one occasion where I did date a mixed race man who really didn't have a black social circle it was wild.You'd be surprised how much they disregard the importance of race in their sphere like I spent a weekend with him and his brother, his brother's wife and their friends at a cabin in North Carolina. The simple fact of me wearing a bonnet to protect my blowout was a point of fascination to the point that I felt like I was in a zoo and then when I got in the hot tub and my hair reverted back to my kinky curly texture it was like they saw an alien for the first time 🤦🏾♀️! The ick factor wouldn't let me pursue the relationship further
@lottaleshea8650
Жыл бұрын
@Mel C I literally said there was the one time. The fact that matter is that if you're not intentional on who you're dating and what their social sphere looks like, you run the risk of this happening more often than not, because as much as people like to think that race doesn't affect day-to-day life, it truly an honestly does. So I try to date people who have had close interpersonal relationships, sexual or just friendship wise with black people because it's no fun being the first or being an anomaly. Literally the point of my whole story, especially if you read the first two sentences
@13579hee
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I dont know why monoracial Black people just refuse to accept that MANY biracials aren't living a Black experience
@ShiningLight411
Жыл бұрын
A bonnet? Curly hair? The horror!😂😂😂😂😂
@cmg25
Жыл бұрын
@@13579hee Ah yes, being black is an “experience” as is “whiteness.” Can’t have one without the other thanks to hierarchal capitalism that needs an “other” to operate (see: slaves producing capital).
@MiscellaneousMeMe
Жыл бұрын
In London uk, mixed people do not identity as black mostly. If they have a white mother and black farther then they usually identify with their white side. I find non black men much more race aware the mixed people with white mothers. Usually, mixed people with black mothers have an understanding of the black experience regardless of how they look. (Which is why Megan and her mother perplex me so).
@veyveye.2985
Жыл бұрын
I think this documentary did a good job of erasing the role her father played in her upbringing. He was very present and his role was very significant. Her mother was away for many years. So maybe she got to experience a lot more of her whiteness because of that . Her race is white on her ID and even on her casting sheet (e.g.jeopardy). Good on her that she also identified as biracial, which she is .Doria and Thomas Markle split early on in Meghan's life. Doria could have done better with the race discussion, but Meghan was near 40 getting into the royal family. By this time, an enlightened, educated activist such as Meghan would or should know, by her own research, about race, about the royal family, about royal expectations especially after Diana. At some point, we have to look at Meghan to be responsible for her adult choices. I believe she imagined that she has been white-passing in the US and thought it would be alright in the UK. But those people move different. So there came the shock.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
🎯
@sdub7045
Жыл бұрын
The documentary showed Meghan spent time with both parents growing up. Not sure what you're saying. Her father wasn't erased at all.
@veyveye.2985
Жыл бұрын
@@sdub7045 please note that this video and consequently the comment was made in reaction to the 1st few episodes of the documentary. The role her father played was not significantly elaborated on as much as her mother's at this point. Her father's story is more detailed towards the end of the documentary, so at this stage of the viewing, my opinion/ comment was based on my viewing experience. Hope this makes sense.
@TheSacralBliss
Жыл бұрын
I think Harry knowing he’s not in line to be King allowed him to be more normal.
@no-thanks
Жыл бұрын
He’s the palace spare. He deserves to live his own life…
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
All the privilege, half the responsibility. Plus he's more attractive and charming. Yupp should be a sweet life.
@longlivebeans
Жыл бұрын
I’ve never had an issue with Megan & don’t really care much for royal culture but after watching Munecat’s video a while back, I was floored by how badly she’s been abused by british media. Truly heinous shit.
@tacrewgirl
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. I'll check out both videos by Munecat.
@AntoinetteD
Жыл бұрын
I cannot understand the hate towards Meghan and Harry for trying to live a happy life AND also defend themselves. I feel strongly that they're not sharing their truth just for themselves, but also to help others and out the racist hate they've endured. The British media has been nothing but horrible to her. The "institution" has clearly done nothing to support their well-being. M&H are just people. Why do they have to be labeled as "clout-chasing" or "attention seekers"?
@PHlophe
Жыл бұрын
Kusine antoinette, nur weil die Frau Hübsch ist. Pur Eifersucht; Glaub's mir .
@kanamenoname210
Жыл бұрын
Well they are racist, people are pretty used to the RF being racist. It's not something new. If you are from the commonwealth, its a very openly known fact. Racism in casual conversations with british, especially upper class british is very much a common knowledge. And everything Meghan has endured can be seen through everyone else, except racism. I mean you got Kate looking like a skeleton now. 💀 But people hate or dislike her because she was willing to take part in that institution, play the game, take on their legacy, wear their looted jewels and wear the symbols of the commonwealth (which her docuseries now calls colonialism 2.0) as long as it benefited her. And when she realized she wasn't going to be treated like a princess or that Kate and others would control her $ and where she lived, she turned and suddenly became aware of racism and classicism and how she was the victim. I think she's a strong woman btw, and I am rooting tor her only cause I want the monarchy to end, but she's not likeable for many reasons including her compliance in Andrew's situation and becoming a royal
@sdub7045
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think they're also mindful that their exit is historical and will be discussed and dissected long after we're gone. I don't blame them for going on the record.
@Deee423
Жыл бұрын
I think everyone says Harry was the favorite because he talks about her nonstop and William doesn’t lol. But William was definitely Diana’s favorite. She called him her soulmate and she relied on him like he was her friend even though he was just a child. He was there for her emotionally and would stand up to Charles for making her upset. Quite fucked up of her to put adult problems on him tbh.
@sdub7045
Жыл бұрын
Diana also called Harry, "Good King Harry" which says a lot.
@RachelSeun
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the lives tonight Kim! You were on fire!!!
@Thesilentvoice...
Жыл бұрын
I feel Megan and Harry should soon stop doing these documentaries and interviews. Or if they are doing it make it a one for all tell-all or one-last-stand thing where they say all of their truth in one go. The different documentaries are eye-opening but it is starting to feel like they are doing it for the views/money, when we know it's to exploit what the royal family did to them. I feel they would be better doing humanitarian work and not engaging with the media anymore since everyone attacks/hates them. I wish them all the best and I do think Megan should have been more aware of the racism before marrying Harry, especially since England/UK have partaken in colonization for years in history.
@BrightEyes24
Жыл бұрын
The thing you have to realize is that the British media and the Royal family is still actively threatening them. So not only are they giving their side for historical accuracy it’s also their way of warning Harry’s family to back off. They have worse stories they can tell that will further damage the Monarchy. Tyler Perry even said H&M were holding back. Harry has said that he believes the establishment wants his wife dead . And after watching the way that family has gone after Meghan I no longer believe Princess Diana’s death was accidental.
@CrystalM1917
Жыл бұрын
I think(hope) this is it. Any other follow up will be after they'd left at this point, so really they shouldn't have much more to reveal as it will start feeling like a reality show and media seeking. They need to go on and live their best lives now enjoying their children and their work here. The royal family can implode on its own hopefully with help from more commonwealth nations seeking independence from them as time goes on.
@iamthatiam1950
Жыл бұрын
They are making sure history includes their story.
@theglowazon6766
Жыл бұрын
It's easy to say that Meghan should have been more aware but why would she? U.S. history isn't exactly great either on race relations as are many countries, and there are usually cultural differences on how the racism cones across and against what groups. I grew up in the States and am a brown skin woman. I can say I haven't experienced overt racism but more covert racism and it was minimal and more with class than race. I had visited the UK several times before I moved over for two years and didn't have any issues until I lived in the UK that I really dealt with covert racism and mainly xenophobia. There is MASSIVE snobbery against Americans that threw me for a loop. I was assumed Canadian when they heard my accent, but the moment I said the USA, there was an obvious change or comments made about US problems as if the UK didn't have their own issues. Will also point out that not everyone attacks or hates them and Meghan has been doing humanitarian work before the documentary came out and to not engage with the media in the States wouldn't actually work if they are bringing attention to different charities and causes.
@Thesilentvoice...
Жыл бұрын
@@theglowazon6766 That's your experience. Not everyone is the same but every person who is black, or biracial with black mixed in them, they need to know about racism because most if not all black people or people who have black heritage in them but not fully black receive racism just for that. Her mom should have spoke to her about this despite meghan never facing it before. It's for her awareness. Not everyone attacks them but they have majority of haters (most of the UK and the US aren't supporting her so much). It's 50/50 love/hate from what I see.
@samanthalake5011
Жыл бұрын
Those Brits told Meghan, "You can't sit with us."🤣🤣
@mykittyhaswifi
Жыл бұрын
I'm having a hard time buying that the palace told Meghan not to invite Ashley. Meghan wanted only 2 family members there and they said no? Like Kate invited her hometown mail man and butcher and crazy ass uncle that always talks to the media to her wedding. And Kate was marrying the future King. There would've been way less rules for who Meghan and Harry had to invite and couldn't invite since Harry was so far down the line of succession. It didn't have to be a wedding with dignitaries and world leaders like William or Charles' weddings. They probably would've wanted MORE family because only having her mom there makes Meghan look kinda weird. It looks worse than if she just invited her niece without inviting her sister imo.
@Titus14Women
Жыл бұрын
Now, I feel Meghan went out of her way to make us understand she was naive about racism. I think she just ignored what and who didn't serve her. She was able to bypass direct hits of racism by living in a bubble with her non-Black friend group. Ms. Doria raised her real different.
@samanthalake5011
Жыл бұрын
I noticed she only had white friends too.🧐
@tonjamarshall4842
Жыл бұрын
I think Doria comes from “brown paper bag” black people, ( they would put a brown paper bag next to your cheek and if you were darker than the bag, you wasn’t welcomed.)
@CoilyTwizzler
Жыл бұрын
Tbh the points made at the end of this video make me feel like Harry intentionally didn’t inform Meghan bc she was his “door marked exit” in the words of Eli Pope from Scandal. Lol like this is giving very Fitz and Olivia and it seems he probably does love her, but also I’m thinking he never WANTED her to integrate into the family structure bc he himself wanted out, and she was his ticket out of the institution while still gaining favor in the American eye.
@Michaeleism
Жыл бұрын
She was a brilliant and strategic exit door for H. He knew exactly WHY he chose her. He couldn't just leave without cause and reason. M was probably aware of this as well. As brilliant as she is, I can't imagine her not knowing...
@aj2thamaxx742
Жыл бұрын
I love this video and I also understand not going too hard in the paint about the lack of racial awareness on Meg’s part because all we can do is believe what she is saying. And we will all inevitably analyze the situation based on our own experiences, especially those of us that are Black. One thing I will say about Megan, is that I haven’t fully worked out her demonstrating her ability to understand the benefits of racial ambiguity but also her saying that she finally got her first negative Black lady experience later in life. I’m not mad that she said that but I think there is something to be said about that comment. I feel as if sis has been working overtime to avoid race as a focus for a long time and then finally realized it’s inescapable. I also don’t think that she is trying to be purposefully anti-black but I think she doesn’t recognize that working overtime to achieve racial ambiguity is inherently anti-Black.
@cmg25
Жыл бұрын
This. Couldn’t put my finger on it, but how are you an actress - one of the most racist professions - and that obtuse. What is being taught in schools about Britain, colonies, slavery? The CRT witch hunters need not worry if everyone lacks a basic understanding of Britain’s role in anti-blackness. Read: if Megan was her mother’s complexion, would she have caught Harry’s eye in the first place? Let’s just “Yes, And” the whole thing and then remember how “divide and conquer” is a quintessential piece of maintaining racist ideologies. Shout outs to all the: “it’s ‘just’ my preference” folks for keeping this mess alive and well. 😉
@aj2thamaxx742
Жыл бұрын
@@cmg25 I haven’t watched the documentary on Netflix about Meghan Markle, but I wonder how she reconciled the fact that her husband did dress as a Nazi back in the day. Like I know the Britain monarchy is a scourge, and they are definitely a group of imperialists with very racist views. Also to your point, what if Meg looked more like her mother, would Harry be attracted to her.
@Black.hole.
Жыл бұрын
@@cmg25 this! I think the whole “is Megan white passing” question can be answered by just asking “would Megan have caught his eye if she was her mother’s complexion?” The answer is hell no.
@CrystalM1917
Жыл бұрын
@faithfrye1691 I actually think he would have. Harry seems to have always liked some color. I remember when he and Rihanna did some type of event together and he legitimately could not keep his eyes off her, blushing, smiling the whole time. Ok so ofcourse most men wouldn't be able to keep their eyes off Rihanna white black or otherwise, lol but my point is Doria is similarly complected...anyway he wouldn't have married Meghan if she phenotypically presented more black bc he knew it wouldn't be acceptable as a british prince....heck look at what they dealing with as it is with her being white passing, but yes I think he would have been attracted.
@sdub7045
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, but Meghan didn't hide her black mother. She also spoke openly about being biracial in publications prior to meeting Harry. I think she saw herself as "other". She also was able to move easily in some real WHITE spaces without issues. I don't know if that makes her anti black, but she clearly didn't believe racism would touch her.
@jolynetheoffspring.5530
Жыл бұрын
Because of her dreadlocks they thought she was Jamaican?
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
Oh Lord.
@CrystalM1917
Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@debbie6074
Жыл бұрын
The way Americans talk about black immigrants especially Caribbean folks is very odd and lacks a lot of nuance to be honest. If only you knew how segregated the Caribbean is and how much race, language and the urban/rural divide affects how we view ourselves and our blackness…
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
@OnaHarmony
Жыл бұрын
This isn't relevant but Kim you look amazing!! Stunning!!
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
Everytime a new video drops she get more radiant.
@MonicaDennis
Жыл бұрын
All Royal men are enlisted in the military - Prince William was in the Air Force for seven years too. Harry didn't make the noble choice, he was required to serve
@KimberlyNicoleFoster89
Жыл бұрын
Yes, what I should’ve said is Harry is the rare royal to opt into going into active combat.
@MonicaDennis
Жыл бұрын
@Kimberly Nicole Foster very true! Love your content
@cammac899
Жыл бұрын
I am biracial (black and indigenous/latina). I have 3 sibling and 2 of us came out with dark skin and 2 of us came out with light skin and I gotta say all the white ppl I grew up with also never knew i was mixed until they saw my dad...didn't think I was white but definitely didn't think I was black at all but most of the black kids would always ask me what i was mixed with so I can believe that all those white ppl ain't think she was black
@moded_corroded8132
Жыл бұрын
I'ma need you to back up off us California Blacks lol. The Panthers, Watts riots in 65, LA riots in 92, on and on happened here so let's not do that. I'm a year and some change older than Meghan, born in LA, grew up in SoCal and I don't know what her mama was on because I definitely was brought up very Black and so were my family and friends. We have our whitewashed coons here but that's not unique to CA. Doria was born in Cleveland so they gon' have to hold that L with us 😂
@harmony323
Жыл бұрын
Right, she lost me with these blanket statements about “California blacks”
@erjanica25
Жыл бұрын
As a 40 yo blacl woman from the LA area who now lives in Texas, there are SO MANY things I want to chime in on! I wish I had seen the live! If you're looking up demographics do know that things have changed DRASTICALLY since the 90s-early 2000s.
@indiefairy09
Жыл бұрын
Yea she literally said in the documentary her neighborhood use to be historically black. Looking at stats for any neighborhood and using 2022 stats doesn’t make since bc we all know about gentrification
@moded_corroded8132
Жыл бұрын
Definitely big change since we were kids.
@kaylalaster1038
Жыл бұрын
Im so excited for more black creators to be talking about M&H’s Netflix series and having conversations about all the underlying themes- racism across the pond, colorism, texturism, racial ambiguity, the one drop rule, the black experience, multiracial-ity (if thats a word), etc. I just finished episodes 4-6 this morning and Im really interested to get your take on it. I also want to add that Ive liked H&M and unfortunately thanks to Facebooks algorithm and me clicking on the wrong article Ive gotten a front row seat to the extremely racist, sexist, and bigoted comments that have been made regarding them. It is ridiculous to see some of the things those folks have said about them from saying Meghan wasnt black enough to experience racism claiming she was tanning to gain sympathy , to comparing her to Jim Jones saying she was a cult leader, to someone actually believing she was completely lying about how her and Harry met and that she was really a highend prostitute. It has always baffled me and it’s just refreshing to hear realistic and mentally sound critique of Harry and Meghan. Bc they arent perfect and as public figured they are subjected to critique, but my heart could not fathom how comfortable people across the pond and even here in America were with being blatantly racist towards Meg and her children. It made me check myself regarding some conversations I need to have with my young mixed race family members.
@AddBowIfGirl
Жыл бұрын
Kayla Laster And now we have Jeremy Clarkson’s (who’s a good friend of, and just publicly had lunch with, Camilla the Adulterer) dehumanizing, covertly racist, and deeply misogynistic comment/threat to add to the list of next-level hateful things said or written about Meghan in public. And for what? “Stealing” their _ginger prince_ and getting the luxurious home life and titles that they feel were meant for a fully-white woman. I don’t know how one could lack empathy for Meghan because this is an unprecedented amount of hate to experience. Amber Heard got it uniquely bad on social media but Meghan has a massive social media hatespace _plus_ almost all of England’s and Australia’s mainstream news outlets and programs encouraging hate for her almost daily. And certainly all of America’s rightwing outlets encouraging hate for her. Meghan Markle hate is its own genre. I don’t think that any other person has as many social media accounts dedicated solely to maligning, insulting, and spreading lies about them. Like, this is a legit war for certain white and white-adjacent ppl and they seem like they won’t stop until she’s… _gone._ From the support that Clarkson’s deranged rant of an article got, you can tell that they wish that they could Mary Turner Meghan. _If only it were they 1960s or earlier,_ they seem to lament. I know she’s privileged but it’s utterly horrifying what’s happening to her.
@team-is1nf
Жыл бұрын
I’m Afro Latina living in CA. Going to predominantly white school but living in a diverse community. I can truly say that my whole school life my color or race was never a topic within friends, at school amongst teachers. It wasn’t until my adult life where non white people point out my Caribbean ethnic background. Btw I love this part of my background. I’ve visited several times and my dad didn’t raise me but I feel connected to that side of my ethnic background. It’s not in Cali culture to talk about these things. But I noticed that non white people loooooove talking about it.
@StarStarStar059
Жыл бұрын
I think Meagan did exactly what her mom wanted. Have white children. We also have to understand some black people want to breed the black out of their genes. As a Dominican Afro Latina I see it all the time 😢 never want to mention race or talk about their blackness. Encouraging their kids to date white etc etc 😮💨😮💨
@louisefleming3117
Жыл бұрын
on point 100%
@mzzzzzzday
Жыл бұрын
California black is not that different. I don't know what is going on with people in biracial families. Like seriously, because she is not the only person I've heard say they didn't realize they were black. I had a coworker bring this question up, and she told me there was a specific day in high school when she realized she was black. And that the black girls with darker skin were out to get her. First of all...whatever. lmao Can't relate. I have always known I was black. Always.
@LindaMitchell
Жыл бұрын
I never heard her say she didn't know that she was Black. I believe she said that she wasn't treated like a Black woman. I believe her because she has a light complexion and her racial ambiguity. We already know dark skinned women are treated differently so it's not a surprise that she didn't deal with a lot of racism in her life.
@wahoo4uva
Жыл бұрын
@@LindaMitchell It’s hard for me to believe people didn’t see (or treat) her as black or at least other. Especially because she didn’t look all that racially ambiguous until she was an adult, straightened her hair and got a rhinoplasty. Even in the pictures of her as a child and teenager they showed in the documentary (and Kim showed in this video) she was very clearly NOT (all) white. She wasn’t *that* light skinned and she still isn’t. Unambiguously black people with her shade of complexion aren’t that uncommon. AND! YES people did see her as black because she herself said she wasn’t white enough for the white kids, not black enough for the black kids. So the blackness, to whatever degree, WAS seen - and EXPERIENCED. She didn’t (didn’t want to?) put it together because SHE didn’t (doesn’t) consider herself black. So it didn’t enter her consciousness - or, she didn’t accept - that she was experiencing blackness and being treated as such.
@prairieflower7967
Жыл бұрын
@@wahoo4uvashe grew up in a black neighborhood when she was younger. In California maybe it’s different there.
@Covers-and-Commentary
Жыл бұрын
It’s complicated. First of all she’s not black she’s half black. I think I’m an effort to keep the child from being traumatized both parents decide to ignore it doing the child a disservice. Meghan is half white half black.
@birdiewolf3497
Жыл бұрын
@@wahoo4uva We have to be for real. Being seen as a mixed woman/being fair skinned/an other is different than being seen as black. Why are we trying to argue about this to this woman especially when we talk about this all the time? It's because she grew up around black folks she knows people see her differently. But let someone like Meghan confirm what we know to be true and it's like "Nope. It doesn't make sense." I don't know what yall want from the biracials. Like she saying that she doesn't get treated the same way, but let her had said the opposite, folks would have been pissed about that shit too.
@peral341
Жыл бұрын
Not only did she not expose her to racism and race, she didn't expose her to her side of the family, either. You couldn't scrape up a cousin, a nephew, a sister-in-law, somebody to attend your daughter's wedding with you? I still can't believe this girl had NO family at her wedding aside from mom. And looks like she will raise her kids the same way--isolated from family.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
*black family
@beccamakela2014
Жыл бұрын
The wild part is that she says she was born and raised in Cranshaw CA. It's not adding up, I am pretty sure she was raised by her white father in middle class LA. She calls her friends Girlfriends, her driver's license says white. I think she is trying to fight the narrative of ppl saying she's dumb by making her mom the scapegoat. Her mom is a social worker.... Really she didn't tell her? Or she didn't have time to tell her.
@whatsonhermindblog123
Жыл бұрын
@@beccamakela2014 I didn't know your license had your race on it in california? Mine doesn't
@Luna-kb3sr
Жыл бұрын
This is real. My family member was the only Black person at her wedding and on the walls of her home. She has no black friends and she’s isolating her children from the Black side of the family. Self hate is real.
@theglowazon6766
Жыл бұрын
Considering the mess the British tabloids were writing about her, I wouldn't have showed up if I was invited especially with it being broadcast worldwide, on the Internet forever, comments about how I looked on social media, being under a microscope and putting myself in the position to be ridiculed and talked about in the British tabloids who are ruthless.
@MakaykayLAMB
Жыл бұрын
My parents never had the “you’re black” talk with me. Also grew up in an interracial household but with two dads in Chicago. I knew I was black (obviously) and that people would treat me differently particularly because I have a white father. But it wasn’t until I moved to Minnesota and went to a predominantly white school that I truly realized what being black means to other people? A white girl in my senior class walked up to me and asked me is she could call me a “nigger witch”. And her and her friends stood there laughing.
@plottwistpleasethepodcast4469
Жыл бұрын
This was so thorough and handled with such care. I appreciate your work!
@charityshezi
Жыл бұрын
As a Black South African when I first saw Meghan on Suits I kept wondering her race. I went from biracial or Indian then I didn't care then they introduced her black father on the show. So no, it's not obvious to everyone that she is just a Black American woman.
@AwkwardBlackNomad
Жыл бұрын
Black Americans see race in a different way. We take everybody in. Because for us, the experience of racism and the qualifications of Blackness isn’t clearly defined. So we can look at Meghan and say yeah, someone’s Black but if she’s passing, we don’t make a big deal. Look at rashida jones
@eoa363
Жыл бұрын
On Suits I thought she was Latina, until they introduced her parents.
@veeceey1073
Жыл бұрын
@@eoa363 I thought the same when I first saw Meghan on suits.
@tragicallyhoney
Жыл бұрын
@@eoa363she does not look latina lmao
@eoa363
Жыл бұрын
@@tragicallyhoney Okay
@LethalLemonLime
Жыл бұрын
It was always so weird to me to hear black people say that Megan Markle is white passing and that they thought she was white until they found out that her mom is black but then also thought Ariana Grande was mixed with black or a non-white Latina.... like how? Immediately upon seeing Megan as an adult she registered as non-white to me. And looked like someone who had black genetics. She definitely has type 3 hair though. I feel like you just didn't see more accurate pictures of her hair but yeah she has type 3 hair. Definitely not 4. This made me think of all the type three girls who title there videos as type 4 hair.
@cshopper1346
Жыл бұрын
Because of the way Megan looked on the outside, I can believe Hollywood saw her as other ethnic group other than Black. Megan has said she auditioned for roles of every ethnic group. It seemed as if she was accepted by some because she was very smart/geek and those are the ones that she became friends with. IJS.
@cscreative5460
Жыл бұрын
I love that you said we don’t do that we’re black regarding your sister. I technically have a half sis and it’s gross even saying that. My mom raised us on that saying. We don’t do that we’re black, that’s your sister period!
@fangal12
Жыл бұрын
Same, I didn't find out my brother was my half brother until I was 11 and I literally cried. Our parents married when he was 1 and my Dad never treated him any different than the rest of us
@MissBee23
Жыл бұрын
Meghan, to me, came off beautifully vulnerable and kind in the documentary. I don’t think it’s fair for people to negate her experience(s) but I understand why someone may be confused b/c they can’t relate.
@LotsofLisa
Жыл бұрын
I think she came off pretty well also. There”s nothing that can explain why they wouldn’t defend and protect them. The British press is horrendous! There’s no excuse for the treatment they were subjected to. It’s the same situation and institution that destroyed his mother.
@Kalo2511
Жыл бұрын
You always bring a fresh perspective for which I am so grateful. You look so pretty while doing it too! Also, I hate how Harry's agency in all this is removed...as if he had no say in it and that she MADE him do it. WTAF?!
@vycford3
Жыл бұрын
I came from a black excellence household, went to private and exclusive schools, and participated in the rich white focus activities in the very racist city of Odessa, TX (Friday Night Lights book told the truth). I got that same conversation at 4 or 5 because 1st grade at a private Christian school was a hostile situation. On the demographics, you need to go back to the 80 and 90s, because schools were not that mixed in the 80s. I didn’t make my first black school friend until 7th grade because it was the first time I wasn’t the only black kid in my class, and that class was an advisor period. We didn’t have a real class together until two years later, so it police. I spent all off of Junior and Senior High trying to convince her the she was black because no one gave a crap about Amer-Asian. I use to tell her that she and I where Black. If my mom is concerned black and you and I are darker and the same tone with curly hair, we are black. It sink in when she went to community college. In the documentary there are pics with her hair in it’s natural curls.
@publicpedagogy8657
Жыл бұрын
Is she white passing? I'm not read up enough to comment too much on the white passing stuff but I do think Kim is underestimating the social construction of race and because how it is a social construct, it can drastically change depending on context. Let me share a personal story about how I, a white dude, became Latino for a night. One night I attended a contentious school board meeting about an anti-racism school policy being passed. The two sides sat on opposite ends and I sat with predominantly people of color who supported the policy with mostly white folks sat on the other side. I gave my short public comment in support of the policy. Later on I was walking outside when a Latina woman who spoke against the policy approached me and first asked if I spoke spanish. Until her final words, I had assumed she just wanted to speak in a language she felt more comfortable in. She rambled to me about the usuals stuff that was happening around this time (CRT, marxism, etc.). Then she ended the conversation with, "You are making the rest of us look bad!" ...us? US?! SHE THOUGHT I WAS LATINO!! If you could see me, you would see I am a very white/pink guy. I had a mask on but you could still clearly see I was white, at least in my opinion. So why did this lady think I was Latino? I believe this happened due to my physical and political proximity to people of color. This lady saw me, the only white guy on that side and who spoke in favor of the policy, and likely had some unconscious thought similar to, "No white person would support this policy and be sitting on that said. So this man must be Latino." I think this story really illustrates how a person can 'become' another race and it is entirely dependent on social context. I personally find the 'is she [or any person] white passing?' discourse to be boring. I think the far more interesting questions to ask are, 'in what context is she white? Who and/or how do groups of people [white, Black, Latino, etc] racialize her? How does context (Before she played a biracial character on tv, after playing the character, after becoming a prominent figure in the UK monarchy, etc) play a role?' Personally, I the answer to the original question of is she white/pass is, that answer has changed over time and depended on who was racializing her and context of both the person doing the racializing and the person being racialized.
@chantalmarieee
Жыл бұрын
I had a professor refer to her newborn niece as her half-niece and I remember heavy side eyeing her for that. Imagine how petty you have to be to say "half-niece". Either you claiming the baby or not lol.
@FitBabe
Жыл бұрын
How could you like Wendell Pierce after the way he did Robin? IYKYK 😂😂😂😂
@tfh5575
Жыл бұрын
1:01:01 exactly! just having a black mom would be enough to encounter racism even if meghan did actually present as white. it’s lineage. it was never just about phenotype
@maereid1223
Жыл бұрын
Your energy is sooo good in this video ❤️
@creolekween
Жыл бұрын
🎯
@giftofgab1791
Жыл бұрын
It did and didn’t surprise me that Meghan’s mom didn’t talk to her…she’s a boomer and I do feel like many of them aim for colorblindness if they aren’t in community with race conscious people; if that makes sense. My mom is black and my dad is white (both from la) and my mom raised me to be very conscientious and to be proud of my blackness even though I am mixed. I grew up in west la (which is fairly diverse) my dad went to Meghan’s elementary school and my mom grew up in Venice. I think honestly the mixed experience definitely varies even within Los Angeles (it’s such a huge, expansive place that each community may as well be another state) and you are correct, there are a lot of mixed people in LA. I grew up with a ton of other mixed people which also colored my experiences.
@beccamakela2014
Жыл бұрын
I think Meghan truly did not know she was black until she went to the white factory country where they considered her mix and it was tough for her. Word on the street is that her driver's license says "white". Her problem is with the British not North America because as she said "I was never treated like a black woman until I went to England". I am sorry but I also do not know why I should feel bad for a grown woman marrying into that family of wealth, leave wealthy and try to sell her experience as though it is any similar than mine to get wealthier. Miss me with that.Go to England
@taressastraughter7788
Жыл бұрын
I don't know why us black Americans have this fixation on wanting mixed race people to identify with us. They are different and that's okay. They are biracial not black and that's ok. It makes us look....desperate. mixed is just that mixed.
@KimberlyNicoleFoster89
Жыл бұрын
Mixed with what? Is a person who is Asian and Mexican the same race as Meghan Markle?
@taressastraughter7788
Жыл бұрын
@@KimberlyNicoleFoster89 mixed as any anyone who comes from parents of different races. Megan is mixed (which is true). Mixed people have their own experiences that different from people that are only one race. That's ok.
@KimberlyNicoleFoster89
Жыл бұрын
Right. So she is a Black mixed race person.
@taressastraughter7788
Жыл бұрын
@@KimberlyNicoleFoster89 she isn't black, She is mixed raced and that's ok.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@creolekween
Жыл бұрын
Kimberly you look stunning and this is one of my favorite streams from you. I laughed out loud several times but also pondered things you said differently than I had prior to your insights.
@sherryaleshire9187
Жыл бұрын
And no he was not the only ROYAL TO SERVE THEIR COUNTRY.
@tamarraclark4740
Жыл бұрын
Where was her black family besides her mom?
@MONET8iAM
Жыл бұрын
Born (mid 90s) and raised in NYC, a shade or two lighter than you, I’ve never personally experienced racism. I’ve witnessed it before. But my parents, had these convos with me.
@patty1247
Жыл бұрын
Your memory of learning about Princess Diana’s was similar to mine. We had rented a movie, Fly Away Home, and I was also laying on the ground and the movie ended and we were about to put on another film (can’t remember which one) and at that point they hadn’t reported she was dead just that she was in a terrible accident.
@CatACor21.
Жыл бұрын
Side note: Ana Paquin ate that role up. One of my fav movies. “Here geese geese” 😊
@patty1247
Жыл бұрын
@@CatACor21. I really love that film too! But I always think of Princess Diana when I watch it. Which I did several times during quarantine because it was a feel good film I needed.
@dnycebushton5008
Жыл бұрын
Lookin cute, per usual. Loving those throw pillows...
@starbean4ver
Жыл бұрын
That’s so exciting!!! Looks like the party will be so much fun! It’s on my birthday! And I’m all the way in Detroit! But one day I hope to catch a Kim hosted event! ❤❤❤
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426
Жыл бұрын
Happy birthday tho! Have a sweet smooth year!🎂
@applejellypucci
Жыл бұрын
As a black mom to white passing kids I know I will still need to have this conversation with them one day. They are just under 2 right now. Thank you.
@camille3083
Жыл бұрын
If your kids are truly white passing you won’t. Megan isn’t white passing. She looks like a biracial.
@Montcoshire
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I’m really surprised by your viewpoint on Samantha Markle and the other members of the Markle family. Readers: sorry for this long response but IMO misinformation is harmful. First, Samantha and Thomas Jr were teenagers when MM’s parents met, married and had MM. There are stories of Doria being an advocate for Thomas Jr who was bussed to a school out of their district and bullied horribly at that chosen school. Because of Doria, the boy’s school was switched and he was able to attend school closer to home and have a better HS experience. 👍🏽 Second, let’s not forget it was Uncle Mike who got Meg an internship in South America.👍🏽 Yes, IMO Meg’s dad was wrong selling info to the media; but, with respect to the results of that court case, the newspaper was at fault for the length of material used from daddy’s letter NOT for publishing the letter. That’s why Meg received $1 restitution. Also, about Ashley (Sam’s daughter), she was raised by her grandparents because Sam was adjusting to her disability, MS, and was not able to physically care for a young child at the time. There are many pictures of Meg with her big sister, Sam. Those pictures are at different points in their lives. One that stands out for me is a graduation photo. It shows the sisters after a ceremony where Samantha Markle holds her degree (the Markle name clearly indicated on the document). Proving she was using the Markle last name way b4 PH came into Meg’s love life. By the way, you shame Sam for not being there for Ashley but what about Doria’s disappearance from Meg’s life.
@a.h.2667
Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows how they treated Diana and she didn't really have much choice. No way in hell I would willingly marry into that family based on that alone.
@KendraRN
Жыл бұрын
Meghan knew what she was getting into.
@ashlouw5350
Жыл бұрын
@@KendraRN Not really.. if you don't REALLY follow the RF you wouldn't know how bad they are..
@TaureanBaby
Жыл бұрын
@@ashlouw5350 Very true because I didn't realize just how bad they treated Diana.
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
Right! Dude have his baby, but don't marry into that family. Wtf. We will never forgive them for their treatment of Diana.
@AntoinetteD
Жыл бұрын
that's a very naive perspective to have. if you love someone who you believe you can trust with your life, why would you think that their family would actively destroy you? even if you're familiar with the crown or the news about diana in the 90s, you still expect that things have improved in 30 years and that your s.o. will have your back and protect you.
@tfh5575
Жыл бұрын
crying at “this is sick” googling the hair type 😂😂
@Fortress7
Жыл бұрын
You look so good tonight!
@eryabolonha
Жыл бұрын
From my perspective, I can tell from Meghan's childhood pictures she's mixed but, not black. I mean if she and I grew up together we would experience the world differently. I'm a full black woman. Even if she would grow up in the black community she would know - she's not 'really' black. Still to me, she didn't 'discovered' she's black because she's not, she's biracial. I look at her and I do not see myself(a black woman)
@insulaarachnid
Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the documentary series, maybe Harry addresses this in the series IDK but I find his seemingly newfound commitment to talking about the horrors of racism/colonialism and empire to be at odds with his ongoing support for the military. I think that Harry's psychological makeup meant that he subconsciously sought out/fell in love with someone that he knew the establishment(The Firm) could not accept/support, giving him a way to both "save" his partner in a way he couldn't his Mother AND justify a reason to leave that I believe he wanted to do for a long time. I can't help but compare the lack of "training" that Meghan was not given with someone like Mary Donaldson, who married the Crown Prince of Denmark. Even factoring in that Mary was to be consort to a near-future Monarch rather that a support-royal, which would justify her intense training. Why is there no process set up for those marrying into the British royal family? Forget about curtsying and that crap I'm talking about more substantive things like structural understanding of the modern Monarchy, especially for non-Brits.
@octbaby88
Жыл бұрын
I didn't watch the documentary either (and I'm not sure if I want to, still debating), but I am hearing how unprepared Meghan was, going into the royal family. If that's the case, I blame Harry. You can tell that William prepared Kate, a commoner (as the royal elite would see her as), for her royal duties and what to expect. Harry did not do the same to Meghan. There's a part of me that is thinking Harry used Meghan as an excuse to leave. I remember in the mid-2000s, there were rumors that Harry wanted to leave the family, but his grandmother, Elizabeth convinced him to stay. It is said that Harry is Elizabeth's beloved grandchild (and grandmothers who are the matriarch always try to keep their family together). It's one of the reasons I'm not putting this couple on a pedestal like some black women are doing. Harry should have left on his own, not using a Meghan as his ticket. Also, I hope they're not trying to monetize off on racism. Because after this documentary, how else are they going to stay relevant and have people talk about them?
@britjj5126
Жыл бұрын
@@octbaby88 What makes you think William prepared Kate?? Him dragging out their courtship?... he wanted to have his cake and eat it too by dragging things out, breaking up with her at some point and seeing other girls and when he saw no one wanted to take up the job of being his wife he went back to her but I digress. Of course she would have had some training prepared for her after they got engaged, probably overseen by the Queen seeing as she would marrying the heir to the throne. Kate faced a lot of flack but the difference between her and Meghan is Kate came from a close knit family with an ambitious mama bear of a mother who lived close to her and whom she could go to at any time for support. It also helps they are British and while not aristocracy they certainly understand what the royal family means to Engalnd and also the culture. By certain accounts were very eager to be part of the royal family through marriage and made sure to play their cards right. Kate has English sensibilities and just made sure to keep her mouth shut and not complain. She does the "never complain never explain" policy even better than some royals themselves.
@octbaby88
Жыл бұрын
@britjj5126 So you admit that any woman marrying into the royal family is doing it in part for some selfish reason and honestly, I'm not mad about it. I just hope you have the same energy for why Meghan wanted to marry into that family. But if a woman is going to marry into that family, she has to be ready and prepared for what her role is going to be and possibly be ridiculed by the public. The evidence of William preparing Kate, from what they portray, is that she has embraced her role and she is playing it well. The clip from their engagement interview, he stated how he prepared her and he will continue to be there so that she won't feel overwhelmed. In way, that shows. Meghan claimed that they did not give Archie a prince title. But if you research who receives the title of prince and princess in that family, you would ask yourself why didn't Harry explain that to Meghan. Why didn't he go into details how titles work, especially when he married an American woman who does not know the customs? Like I said, Harry wanted a way out and he saw Meghan as his ticket, at least, that's my assumption.
@britjj5126
Жыл бұрын
@@octbaby88 hmm interesting points and I'd be interested to know exactly what William's preparing Kate entailed but I guess we'll never know. If you look at online videos and instagram accounts right after they got married and way before Meghan came into the picture as a new target, people actually lampooned Kate about how she never seemed to know what to do at public engagements and always looked awkward/lost...like i said she seems to have better family support and proximity to things she grew up with which Im certain helped.
@Angbwillinspireu
Жыл бұрын
Harry's uncle Andrew serviced active duty during the Falkland Wars and, Queen Elizabeth & Prince Philip served during WWII.
@asac1989
Жыл бұрын
Harry wasn’t the only royal enlisted into the military…
@ByteMwen
Жыл бұрын
I think Meghan experienced it but did not know what it was. When you listen to her podcasts, esp the one with Mariah, she discusses not growing up as the pretty one and developing a big extra curricular life because she had noone to sit with at lunch.
@AddBowIfGirl
Жыл бұрын
@@ekg891 People likely did know when her hair was natural. They’d certainly know when they met her mom.
@AddBowIfGirl
Жыл бұрын
@@ekg891 joy She said that no one knew she was half black throughout all of her schooling? Where did she say that?
@AddBowIfGirl
Жыл бұрын
@@ekg891 joy She does look Caucasian and Black. I think that most adults would notice her blackness even in the 90s when her hair was natural. Kids truly do tend to not notice that stuff though.
@littleeva
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Boomer, I'm 3 years younger than Dora. It depends on where a person grew up. I had two friends who were both biracial (White/Asian). The woman who grew up in the East Village was very Asian identified, while the woman who grew up in the suburbs was more White identified. I went to a mostly White school, but I lived in a mostly Black neighborhood.
@bydivadream
Жыл бұрын
Kimberly, thank you oh so much for this. It is beyond relief to see a safe space where Meghan isn't being viciously cyberbullied. I can't think of anyone in recent times who has been more misquoted and taken out of context (including the claims that she wanted to be a recluse rather than just create a boundary).
@avlivinggolden
Жыл бұрын
Kimberly good commentary! Please watch a documentary called " Little White Lie". About a women born in the late 70s growing up in a Jewish family in NYC suburbs and discovered she is black. Would love to hear your view.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
A woman
@Crazycoasterkid21
Жыл бұрын
They go into it both the Daily Mail lawsuit and Meghan’s relationship with Ashleigh in episodes 4-6
@bannannafofana
Жыл бұрын
“the pathology of it all” i am screamingg 🤣🤣
@Love1nOther
Жыл бұрын
When talking about Doria’s lack of race talk with her child, I also expect more of boomers and especially black boomer mama’s. That raised an eyebrow!
@JoyFay
Жыл бұрын
I know many black parents, with fully black kids that act like racism no longer exist.
@aduraedosa
Жыл бұрын
The only difference is that for those mothers society will teach their children at some point. The only difference Meghan had the hard way on a global stage on a level x1000
@Shay416
Жыл бұрын
FR FR How!? During the black Panthers and MLK and the black experience never came up? I'm shocked.
@miriamsang4268
Жыл бұрын
Meghan's mom absolutely dropped the ball. It was shocking because that was the one thing I would expect her to have had a conversation about. She seemed regretful about it. I also want Meghan to be clear in the way she wants to move in this world. If you want to be mostly viewed as yt, just say that. Because even her "friendship" w/ Serena Williams is giving yt (cultured )person befriending an exeptional Negro vibes. Harry definitely kept putting her in situations that needed coaching and she just got thrown in the Lion's Den...WHEW!! Anyway, lemme go watch the second part. Also: I'm glad I'm not the only one who knows Wendell Pierce is Zaddy af. 🔥😂
@shawnmatthews9594
Жыл бұрын
Barack Obama lived in Chicago, southside...and he accepted, loved and appreciated his blackness. His mother also raised him to love his blackness. So, its a difference between Meghan and Barack. Its how you raise your child. Awareness or no awareness.
@nataliekhanyola5669
Жыл бұрын
Meghan is white passing, and is a completely different generation than Obama. Plus... Doria didn't teach Meghan not to love her blackness, she taught her to be colorblind and not notice race, there's a difference between the two.
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
I think there's a big difference in that Obama's father was Kenyan and therefore non ADOS.
@jessicam.4777
Жыл бұрын
@@toomuchinformationYes, his father was Kenyan. Beyond that, what and who were his influences and influencers? Did his father raise him? I know you’re not so simple as to assume that because he’s part Kenyan, he somehow has some higher-level of understanding of “blackness” compared to AAs.
@toomuchinformation
Жыл бұрын
@@jessicam.4777 No, quite the opposite in fact. We don't know if his mother raised him to "love his blackness". Did he say that in his autobiography? If not, then it's conjecture. I DO think that Obama being non ADOS and mixed was the reason he could be elected. The same as Kamala Harris. But a higher level understanding of "blackness", no, BECAUSE he's non ADOS AND mixed, he was in a privileged position.
@jessicam.4777
Жыл бұрын
@@toomuchinformation I do agree with you actually.
@rachelle88818
Жыл бұрын
I'm a Brit and I am not OK with it 😆 as Kelechi Okafor has said "the monarchy needs to abolish itself'.
@PHlophe
Жыл бұрын
Sista rachelle, Kelechi speaks the truth. that woman captivates me . i would love to introduce my daughter to her some day so she can recalibrate a few things in her that me as a Papa i cannot do intuitively
@bannannafofana
Жыл бұрын
the we love pharmaceuticals dance 😂❤️
@LibraVibesSnice80
Жыл бұрын
I’m a biracial woman born to a black American mother and we had our race talks BUT we never had the “how people will treat you talk” and maybe because she didn’t know how difficult my struggles would be as an a white looking biracial woman in a black community…. But that part is also so VERY important in my experience; I wasn’t treated well and biracial people are treated differently based on how they look and where they grow up….
@chiadi9713
Жыл бұрын
I rarely ever blame the moms (because they are usually the parent they stays) m, but I blame Meghan’s mom. You can tell that her mom didn’t teach her about her partial blackness and what issues that may create in her future. She grew up uncultured about much of her blackness.
@veyveye.2985
Жыл бұрын
Meghan was raised by her dad. Her mum was away for many many years. Just wanted to clear that up
@uluvjordan
Жыл бұрын
My Nigerian father who went to school in Scotland in the 70s says he never experienced any racism. Lives in Canada today and still hasn’t experienced any. He did not grow up (in Nigeria) with any conception of race.
@MRLONG758
Жыл бұрын
He must be a miracle or doesn't consider subtle racism, racism.
@LisePlansandJournals
Жыл бұрын
@@MRLONG758 he’s Nigerian. Enough said😂
@Outlawgirl63
Жыл бұрын
I believe him
@Outlawgirl63
Жыл бұрын
Also Scotland and Canada are better countries than America and I’m a American 🇺🇸.
@angeltangle
Жыл бұрын
Though I agree the British Press have treated her poorly,I have very little sympathy for Meghan herself. She's not the smartest if she was willing to marry ibto that family in the first place, they are horrible always have been,always will be. Since the announcement of their engagement I've always thought run away as fast as you can. The British monarchy is not the place for a North American from the entertainment business. Nothing her mother could have told her would ha e prepared her for that life. She literally thought she could just turn up and start benefiting from her association 🙄 it's a no from me dawg.
@GigeeRobin
Жыл бұрын
A lot of men do not know the customs a woman has to do for their culture. I once met a Senegalese man and asked about what are customs for women and meeting his family and he was so oblivious to it. SMH.
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