I felt the “sparkle” go when you took the ‘Brilliance’ down in the harmonic content page. TO ME the doubling lost believability as well as movement there on in. Listening to the character of the voice, its uniqueness, I felt it deserved more than what followed to really bring it home. To Me it sounded thicker, yes, but also duller and somewhat lifeless. His voice tho? Simply superb. Your video? Also superb, thank you. I am not faulting that, and it’s making me think too.
@Kctributebands
Күн бұрын
This is incredibly helpful. Thank you!
@spikesguitarcamp
Күн бұрын
Before Studio, I used to stack vocals manually, changing from screen to screen. Now, I do it exactly like you have just shown, with a minimum of 4 vox tracks. I never knew about the pull down on the fades though. Nice touch. I use EchoBoy also...sweet...lol. Great vid
@athonygraham8353
Күн бұрын
Thank you for this updated video, I always really like your style and delivery. But, dude, same as a few years ago when you made a very similar video, Revoice Pro does all this in one click. Melodyne is so slow compared to that. You know it's all about workflow and speed and despite what you say, it ain't quick. I've no idea why Melodyne hasn't had this implemented the same as Revoice Pro, it's been a long, long time. Even Cubase has had the align function within it for years which is pretty much one click. Personally, I think Melodyne needs to implement something like this that gives you the option of what kind of double, align, pitch and time in a one click function. Someone is going to come up and do a one click AI app that does it all and better than Revoice, (which is clunky admittedly), why have Celemony just slept on this for so long?
@phildimopoulos6010
Күн бұрын
god, Melodyne is a lifesaver... I'd have dropped a paycheque on this plugin for how useful it is... this vid (along with the others I've watched) have been super helpful. I don't even want to know what people did 20 years ago for pitch, timing, sibilance removal on doubles etc... F that hahaha
@icecreamfactorystudio5029
3 сағат бұрын
Wild, just came to check this video out from a promo email and there's a track I recorded. Interesting that you chose the M260 over the Telefunken 251. If you're curious, I'm pretty sure the vocal chain was microphone->Tree Audio Gen 1 console->EL8 barely lighting up->Fairchild 670 pushing a bit->Burl BAD8. Thanks for the tips!
@dannychristie1064
Күн бұрын
❤ Rich is a dreamboat.
@markpicchiotti8028
Күн бұрын
my only suggestion would be to play the vocal changes you made without the track playing. It was hard to hear some of the subtle changes you made.
@bigstewdio
Күн бұрын
Thanks for the fade tip on the sibilant stuff. I often find that heavy compression defeats the sibilant balance tool so I'm going to try this one out
@nkozi
2 күн бұрын
Great tips, and great shirt!
@willwilliams7491
Күн бұрын
As much as I edit vocals in Melodyne, I appreciate the tips. Unfortunately, in my case, a lot of the tracks I get are created by bouncing the repeated parts of the song. So if a good chorus is sung, it is bounced to all the chorus parts in that track. In that event, I don't get any true doubles as displayed in this video so I have to fabricate vocal doubles using the original lead vocal track. Firstly, a double of that track is created. (as shown in the vid) Of course, the initial go-to's are to slightly change the pitch and time of the copied track to separate the exactness. Even though the timing has been changed, the movement is still identical so I may employ a gentle bit of pitch altering flanging or chorusing to add more separation. This has always been a challenging vocal creation, as the cloning programs out there are still a bit sterile. Thanks again.
@xlsxmusic
Күн бұрын
Do you know there is a tool in melodyne to automatically create those random deviations in the duplicates?
@athonygraham8353
Күн бұрын
@@xlsxmusic where is this? You've got me intrigued.
@xlsxmusic
Күн бұрын
@@athonygraham8353 Edit > Add Random Deviations sub-menu, you can randomly alter the pitch of the notes currently selected. There are options for how much you want to add. Also if you haven't checked it out, there is another video on this channel from Rich covering harmonies and I think some of the techniques in there work great for doubles as well.
@Simeon_Harris
11 сағат бұрын
@@xlsxmusic thanks for this. i came to ask if it's possible to create a convincing double from a direct copy and you've answered it. i see you can do the same with timing...brilliant!
@boosterpatrol
Күн бұрын
It'd be *really handy* if there was an option to display the pitch lines for the grayed-out tracks, as lining up where (and how quickly) a pitch slides to another pitch can be crucial to getting a tight double. Yes, you can enable multiple tracks for editing and see their pitch lines simultaneously, but it's all too easy to accidentally start editing the 'source' track rather than the 'double' when the blobs are following the same melody.
@spikesguitarcamp
Күн бұрын
All you have to do is click on the greyed out track while holding Ctrl, (windows). Then both tracks will appear orange with pitch lines. That's the only way you can really use the Time Handle tool effectively to match the pitch lines. Hope this helps
@boosterpatrol
Күн бұрын
@@spikesguitarcamp Sure, but you're not telling me anything I don't know. I'm making a suggestion to Celemony as to how they could improve Melodyne Studio. Having both tracks active is a nightmare, especially when they're doubles of each other and thus all the blobs overlap. Having multiple active tracks is fine when they're harmonies and non-overlapping. And the 'shift so they don't overlap' control isn't especially helpful either, as now you've got two sets of orange blobs right next to each other, and it's not clear which is which. Very easy to unintentionally edit the blobs on the wrong track. I only want one track active - so I don't accidentally edit the 'good' track - I just want the ability to see the pitch line for the inactive track(s).
@spikesguitarcamp
Күн бұрын
@@boosterpatrol Sorry, misunderstood what you were saying, and yes, that would be a great option.
@willb1157
21 сағат бұрын
@boosterpatrol YES YES YES! THIS ONE CELEMONY! The many options for mistakes is worsened by too many blobs.
@michaelkingdeseptionvocali1137
Күн бұрын
Great video
@officialWWM
Күн бұрын
I only have the entry level version of Melodyne that comes pre installed with Studio One. Looks like it might be time for an upgrade.
@joestone3030
2 күн бұрын
Brilliant!
@MarkLawrence-x8d
Күн бұрын
Rich, I got lost after the introduction.....I understand what the application is supposed to do, the technicalities are getting me a little confused, sounds good though...
@rickbm
Күн бұрын
Is there a new version of Melodyne in the near future? ( Not that it is necessary; it's amazing software! )
@dvscool
Күн бұрын
This was great, full of information. But that was not a good vocal track to use for this demo, in my opinion.
@GeorgeAmodei21
Күн бұрын
Got it Stuck in my Head now?… is that good or bad ? ☺️
@spikesguitarcamp
Күн бұрын
😂😂
@vitaminfian
Күн бұрын
Nice 👍🏻
@boosterpatrol
Күн бұрын
It'd also be real handy if it were possible to copy blobs from one track to another. When doing vocal doubling work, I occasionally run into bits where the singer sang a different word on one of the takes, or did something weird that won't work with the other track(s). As it stands now, I have to make note of the issue, finish my Melodyning, render the clip back to audio, (in my DAW) copy a better version of the offending bit from one of the other tracks, and then re-Melodyne the tracks to pitch & time align the copied bit.
@bayridge99
Күн бұрын
Completely agree. If it is possible I have never found the way. Very frustrating.
@ettiennelane9173
2 күн бұрын
Nice!
@Rasenschneider
Күн бұрын
I like the unedited track a lot more
@dmillionaire7
2 күн бұрын
My fav daw
@Kurecify
Күн бұрын
BS.
@Songwriter_Norbert_Mueller
Күн бұрын
bitte in Deutsch, German! Thank You!
@MyFavoriteDisease
Күн бұрын
Und dann noch in Finnisch, Bulgarisch, Japanisch und Swahili - damit jeder Trottel, der kein Englisch kann, seinen Willen bekommt.
@garywesthead8561
2 күн бұрын
Do you look like a bald Mel Gibson, or am I seeing things?
@rolandherenow3134
2 күн бұрын
I knew someone who used to ridicule others because he had no creative talent and too much time on his hands.
@garywesthead8561
Күн бұрын
Sorry, I take it back…
@cesar_m.p.
Күн бұрын
@@garywesthead8561 Yes, he does :D ... and I don't find that offensive or ridiculing him.
@Tuscarora
Күн бұрын
What an awful song, though~! .................but spose if you can fix those vocals you can fix anything.
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