[UPDATE - March 1, 2024] - Gaijin is adding a new MiG-23 (the Hungarian MiG-23MF in the Italian tree). It is completely identical to the German MiG-23MF. Refer to that part of the guide for the Hungarian identical copy MiG-23MF.
@itamisk5127
6 ай бұрын
Ya saw that I want my MiG 25 at least a 31
@thegenericguy8309
7 ай бұрын
Fun fact about the fuel tank removed between the M and ML, it wasn’t just center of mass and weight that removed that fucker. It was also because MiG-23M and MF, with over a thousand already produced, had slowly acquired a noticeable and very strange pattern of structural failure in all batches, even as standards and quality control dramatically improved batch to batch. What was that pattern? Well, at high but not exceptionally high airframe hours, which they were reaching fast owing to the MiG-23’s suitability to patrol duties, they would on occasion, without warning, suddenly fold in half mid-flight, ordinarily during gentle maneuvering. Turned out a number of phenomena literally previously unknown in structural engineering worked together alongside new welding techniques and materials in exactly the right way to turn that fuel tank, which was also a major structural member, into a literal nest of microfractures. So they start looking around airframes in service and uh, boss, it turns out the complaint literally every single maintenance crew has in the back of their service logs is that that fuel tank starts sweating fuel like a pig and it’s a pain in the ass at high airframe hours. Meaning that literally every single MiG-23M, MF, and MS in service anywhere in the world was slowly but surely building up to cleaving itself in half mid-flight with no warning Changes were retrofitted to existing MiG-23s to unretard them free of charge but it did make the first gens even heavier. Hence the decision to throw up their hands and design the tank out while working on the ML. There was also an ML derivative that added the tank back, the MiG-23P dedicated interceptor for the PVO
@andym.s.5231
5 ай бұрын
"unretard them" lmao
@ProphetoftheMachines
7 ай бұрын
The long story alluded to in the video boils down to the fact the Mig-23 was not designed to fight on its own. As Soviet policymakers in the early and mid-1960s saw it, the interceptor pilot existed to get his missiles airborne, fire them, and then land the plane. He was only one piece in a much larger machine of radars, ground control intercept stations, SAMs, and other aircraft (the Integrated Air Defense System, IADS). He did not need a machine capable of individual heroics; it was a very Soviet way of thinking if you ask me. The Mig-23 as originally designed was never supposed to be operated outside of the IADS. Therefore the early Mig-23 did not have the avionics to grant its pilots an easy way to search for and engage targets that it wasn't vectored to by its IADS (this kept it cheap and simple, which was good for a country with as much airspace to defend as the USSR). It did not have the maneuverability to engage in a dogfight, that was a waste of time when it came to intercepting nuclear-armed fighter-bombers like the F-104 (the primary air threat of the 1960s, in Soviet thought). It did not have adequate short-range missiles, since the idea was to shoot down threats from long range (it turned out the R-23 wasn't an adequate long-range missile either). In the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, the IADS to support the Mig-23 existed, and thankfully it was never tested. In the Middle East and Africa, where the Mig-23 fought the vast majority of its battles, it often did not have the IADS it was designed to operate as a part of. This is partly due to third world poverty, partly due to Soviet bureaucracy being unreliable and duplicitous about what it was actually selling its clients (for example, they'd say they'd delivered one type of radar, but it'd turn out to be a different type the customer country didn't have trained personnel for). When the Syrians and Iraqis managed to build a semblance of an IADS, it was using radars that were obsolete before the Mig-23 even entered service, with incomplete coverage too. Peer foes like Iran exploited this well (at least in the first years of the Iran-Iraq war), first world countries like Israel and the United States could jam these networks into uselessness with their cutting-edge electronic warfare capabilities and then tear them apart with impunity. The result was Mig-23 pilots going into battle with no situational awareness beyond what their eyes could see, in a plane designed to operate with heavy guidance from external systems, and getting picked apart piecemeal by enemy with massively superior EW capabilities, AWACS coordination, and better intelligence gathering. Thus the one-sided air wars of 1982 for the Syrians and 1991 for the Iraqis. Despite all this, they did get a working plane out of it. It was simple enough to keep operable (the Iraqis got their first batch without maintenance manuals, they managed to keep them working anyway), it was rugged enough to survive heavy use from third world infrastructure in sub-optimal conditions, and it was an adaptable platform (the Mig-23BN was highly successful as an attack aircraft, for example). The ML/A/D versions were no slouches in a close fight after all the air frame improvements, the R-60 and R-24 were leagues ahead of the missiles they replaced, and the plane WAS incredibly fast, even at low altitude, and it even had a look-down/shoot-down radar at last. But by the time the Mig-23 was working right, the Mig-29 and Su-27 were entering service. Funnily enough, the Libyans didn't want to upgrade to the Mig-29. They preferred the lower operating costs and fuel efficiency of the Mig-23. Better to have a fighter you can afford to use than one you can't, I suppose. TL;DR: don't buy a plane that's a missile bus if you don't have the whole system its designed to operate within
@ВячеславФролов-д7я
7 ай бұрын
The whole soviet air doctrine was to give an asymmetrical answer to the strength of us air force, relying on sams rather than on fighters to carry out the most anti-air work. Fighters were there to compliment Sam network, not the other way, thus, they didn't have to be as universal and complex as western ones. As you mentioned, no middle east country ever got a whole anti air system, and fighters, designed to be just a one part of an anti-air system, never got a chance to work at their best
@sooryan_1018
6 ай бұрын
Explains why Vietnam had huge success using Soviet jets. They had a huge array of radars and air defense systems everywhere in their country, hence USAAF could stand no chance to gain total air supremacy when Vietnam basically used hit and run tactics along with Soviet doctrine of Air Defenses
@crusader4648
6 ай бұрын
Damn that is a long and informative essay
@pencilcase8068
6 ай бұрын
This is why I like the internet. I could learn about Soviet air doctrine while watching a meme guide on a plane I likely won't have while I'm on the toilet
@Apina2.0
6 ай бұрын
Wtf @@ВячеславФролов-д7я
@Drill81
7 ай бұрын
I love the part where he said “It’s floggin’ time” and flogged all over the place
@freezedvegetal
7 ай бұрын
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite War Thudner series, keep up the great work :)
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
@battlefox7614
7 ай бұрын
no way freezed
@זהסודי-ה7מ
7 ай бұрын
Cooking this hard should be illegal
@lucinator8582
7 ай бұрын
Wow, this was an amazing guide! The editing was mind boggling in some parts, I got some weird looks for bursting out in laughter, and hopefully this blows your gambling video out of the water with viewcount
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
thanks, its comments like this that make the months of editing worth it
@lucinator8582
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache no problem mate
@mewhenitfriday
7 ай бұрын
nah the cock sucking is wild!!!!
@MTF-EPSILON-11-5-NULL
5 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustachedo the f89b its the f104 but better
@froasl1384
7 ай бұрын
2 things I think are worth mentioning: 1. There is no need to micromanage the wing sweep, just set it to 0% at takeoff, turn off manual sweep. It will remember that setting. When you need the turning performance and don't care as much about going fast, turn on manual sweep again. For everything else, the automatic wing sweep is perfectly fine. 2. The MiG-23MLs have good high speed acceleration, you can go right past your rip speed. This can be used to your advantage by accelerating to 1300 - 1400 km/h IAS, then climbing so you maintain that IAS. As you're climbing, your true airspeed will keep increasing. On regular maps, I usually reach around 1800km/h at the start of the match by the time I am in missile range, which will usually catch people off guard, allowing for easy R-24R kills. It can also be useful when chasing enemies, as they will not expect a MiG-23 at Mach 1.5. Finally, there is just something special about reaching Mach 2 in a live game on an EC map when returning to base. Just watch your fuel, and don't forget that you will easily overspeed your wings if you enter a dive for any reason at that speed, even without afterburner.
@Loudward__
7 ай бұрын
DONUT 🍩 UP ⬆️ LOAF 🍞
@battlefox7614
7 ай бұрын
no way loudward
@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960
6 ай бұрын
@@battlefox7614 no way
@battlefox7614
6 ай бұрын
@@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 no way
@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960
6 ай бұрын
@@battlefox7614 no way
@Loudward__
6 ай бұрын
@@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 Jimmy no way
@banebladecommanderchristia7951
7 ай бұрын
I love this so much because i know somebody who bomb his way to top tier with the bn and skip literally all the early cold war fighter until the Mig-29 and even then he bomb with it and completely skip over the Mig-23MLA because he thinks it's just a bn but at a higher br, so any sort of making fun against those type of players make me laugh so muc
@Lvl100Boss
7 ай бұрын
Ayo, that ultrakill bit went hard as FUCK
@lemon_juice4486
7 ай бұрын
Bro where are this guys subs? Only 5k. This video alone should generate 5k. This editing sooo god
@Ayush-nm1bk
7 ай бұрын
Dude those jujutsu kaisen reference were awesome lmao na I'D win but gojo does die 💀
@cookiecraze1310
7 ай бұрын
MLD seconds before being killed by a -slice- 9M that bisects the world.
@BOEING--mh6xm
7 ай бұрын
The beginning is so cursed with that flipped MiG-23 and one absolutely R O T A T I N G And especially that F-14B having collision models with the other MiGs
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
the War Thunder CDK mission editor is a pathway to many abilities... that some may consider un-natural...
@BOEING--mh6xm
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache yes lmfao
@Killerpixel11
7 ай бұрын
I have no idea why, it shouldn't be that funny, but that F-14 trolling through the MIGs in the very beginning fucking sent me.
@itamisk5127
7 ай бұрын
Flying the flogger is a art form of pure hatred and disrespect of any non flogger air frame in the sky
@egoalter1276
26 күн бұрын
Full throttle, ab on, 0 sweep, full back on stick. YOu will briefly utturn a Sopwith Camel before ripping your wings off.
@JSDFEnthusiast
7 ай бұрын
Everyone dropped the MiG-23MF after literally a week, and so I took it upon myself to spade it. First jet I ever spaded up to that point then the Tornado IDS because both are high favorites imo. It's such a powerhouse if you know what you're doing.
@giangi6913
7 ай бұрын
dude the MLD edit made me want to get that plane asap
@aimesblack
7 ай бұрын
Just unlocked the mld and you get the 23 and 24T for free after unlocking the R variants btw. Great guide as always
@prodigy-hu6dy
7 ай бұрын
This is good fucking content. I’ve never actually seen a video break down the wing differences and use an amazing feature called VISUAL representation of the differences as well as side-by-side comparisons, showing the vortex generators and slats, something people on Google and 90% of other KZitemrs are entirely allergic to. Needless to say I suscribed
@TheNicestPig
6 ай бұрын
This video made me try the MiG-23MLD again after not touching it since they added the MiG-29 (aproximately 3000 top tier Air RB matches since) And you're damn right, it still kicks, it kicks so hard, harder than the MiG-23MLD section in this video. I love it.
@just_david
3 ай бұрын
For some reason, I don't really do good in it. In every other jet, I manage to have a good time, but in the MLD I just keep dying. Now that they nerfed it, I guess I'll just spade it and never touch it again.
@petersmythe6462
25 күн бұрын
Re: Gaijin multiplying limits by 1.5? Standard practice in at least civilian aircraft design is to assume all materials are 1.5 times weaker than they really are, so it kind of balances out.
@ravenzero23
7 ай бұрын
I absolutely love my MiG 23 MLA, its always soo entertaining to see those self called Mavericks with top gun syndrome cry in chat because they just got missiled by a "inferior" plane
@thegenericguy8309
7 ай бұрын
Would also like to mention that the AOA limits on MiG-23s is actually primarily because of their autopilots. MiG-23 was designed before certain phenomena in aerodynamics were understood and like every other fighter that tried to pull something aerodynamically clever in the third gen, especially the F-4 and F-14, this meant insanely unpredictable stall/spin/wing drop characteristics that would jump you with unpredictable bullshit and sudden unrecoverable spins out of fucking nowhere, because the SAS didn’t include an understanding of phenomena that no one knew about. The MiG-23 being such a long boi, for instance, made inertial coupling fuckery a real bitch. Because of this, a huge amount of the AOA stability changes were actually completely unrelated to structure or shape, and were literally just updated flight control systems and SAS making it actually possible for a human to achieve the AOA value without a million billion years of practice and thirty airframes to throw away while figuring it out. The ML’s version of SAU/23 is probably the most underappreciated reason it was so dramatically better than the M
@saabportly7487
7 ай бұрын
actually the most underrated youtube channel i've ever seen
@Mig_V
6 ай бұрын
Not only did i already love soviet 3rd-4th gen aircraft, now you made that love bigger. I cannot contain myself anymore and i'll buy the Mig-23ML for my birthday. Good job! (Also you cooked WAY too hard with the Mig-23MLD Section, i've never been so hyped for a plane edit.)
@elkrumb9159
7 ай бұрын
Thank you, thank you so much donut, yes thank you, this might just be what I need to watch
@a.e.richardson218
7 ай бұрын
as a mig 23ML buyer I gotta say it made the grind from 10.3 to 12.7 infinitely easier. Its an amazing air craft with good missiles and good preformance
@tahwing
7 ай бұрын
this is insanely great editing. needs more subs
@fa-ajn9881
3 ай бұрын
Legit one of my fav vids on KZitem. Thank you.
@blacksky121_
7 ай бұрын
It's beautiful. I've looked at this for 5 hours now
@mrmattdoesstuff
6 ай бұрын
I watched your F104 vid before this and both had me ROLLING! 😂 Liked and Subscribed. 😏 Also, I see you're a man of culture, Love the editing!
@VEGA_CORE
Ай бұрын
that Gabriel reference is peak
@PaulMacQ
3 ай бұрын
Would be great to get Mig-23P superior BVR interceptor. Maybe a Squadron vehicle
@Lolzy3014
5 ай бұрын
I love how you said "And tier 8 soon to follow". really predicted the future, mr. Gabr- ehr i mean mr. Donut
@RaNoL1N_ilia
7 ай бұрын
And often r23t are better than r23r cuz 23r got a huge delay allmost same as aim7d/e
@militaryfreak4856
7 ай бұрын
cant wait for a guide on KA52, how to play keybind and how to kill
@OttomanDrifter91
6 ай бұрын
Drift City OST? Damn, i see you're man of culture as well.
@LegionsTyphoon
7 ай бұрын
1:44 Well, thats some very nostalgic music. Moon Palace, Drift City. God I miss that game.
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
There is a free playable community-run version today, called Drift City Remastered
@nightsnailyt
19 күн бұрын
Am I watching youtube or a FUCKING MOVIE?
@Biznatski
7 ай бұрын
Love your videos, hope your channel blows up 💯❤
@DieErsteKartoffel
7 ай бұрын
Crazy how you only have 5K despite putting noticeable effort into your videos unlike the 90% of WT YTs who basically just make the same MLG montage over and over again with different vehicles.
@egoalter1276
4 ай бұрын
The fact that the soviets have somehow managed to figure out target handoff with their level of electronics sophistication (or rather lack thereof) in the 70s, while it only became a common thing in western fighters in the 2000s is mindboggling to me.
@j100j
7 ай бұрын
"Who even reads the description under a video anyways? You must be really bored." Says the guy who doesn't put the music they used in the video in the description.
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
Just ask in the comments and in more than happy to tell you.
@j100j
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache Now I'm gonna ratio myself. Also what music did you use?
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
- Intro: Soviet march from Command and Conquer - red alert 3 soundtrack - History section: Moon Palace Track 1 - Drift City Soundtrack - flogger basics: GT Mode track 2 - Gran Turismo 4 OST - First gen floggers: Magic Spear 1&2 Mix - Ace Combat 7 OST - Second gen floggers: Dune Eternal - Ultrakill OST - MiG-23MLD intro - Bach 369 "Fallen Angel" - Ultrakill OST - MiG-23MLD montage - "Death of Gods will" - Ultrakill OST - MiG-23MLD second montage - Smell of the Game - Guilty Gear Strive OST - Ground attackers section - "Power and Speed" - Gran Turismo 4 OST - Modifications section - "05 Frontline Base" - Area 88/UN Squadron (SNES) OST - Outro - "Landyishi" - Atomic Thunder OST (War Thunder x Atomic Heart event)
@j100j
6 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache I just now got the notification. Thanks. I'll look trough the music now I guess.
@Oz.G
7 ай бұрын
What the f... did i watch here😂😂😂 I never heard of your channel but after watching this masterpiece of a video(and being a mig 23 enjoyer) im gonna subscribe IMMEDIATLY❤
@flavioportelamonteles4839
Ай бұрын
Fan fact i use this video to sleep
@jackschoonover6418
5 ай бұрын
6:13 take a shot each time he says radar
@xlgapelsin6173
6 ай бұрын
My fav way of playing my ml is to head on with the ir r24's after turning right. Love the flogger
@US_Beagle
2 ай бұрын
They changed BRs again time to rewrite this script and reupload
@guardsmanhansvonkrieg4862
6 ай бұрын
No way he went full lobotomy kaisen with the mld segment
@petersmythe6462
25 күн бұрын
The Tomcat we have at home
@assafnathanbajrach6026
24 күн бұрын
love the ULTRAKILL refrence
@dani728
4 ай бұрын
i came to watch a wt video, got gran turismo'd instantly with the music lmao
@Rrares9
7 ай бұрын
mom wake up the meme guy uploaded another video
@thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334
7 ай бұрын
Ultrakill music over WT gameplay is an unholy combination
@loganvelasco1889
4 ай бұрын
Those were some clean transitions 🔥
@cutthroat795
6 ай бұрын
My experience with the MiG-23M was that the flares basically never worked. They would just fly out of the seeker’s fov and do nothing for you if you used them mid turn.
@Arkovic
6 ай бұрын
you made me want the MiG-23MLD so hard now
@Minigun_-nj1tf
7 ай бұрын
I love to hear you talk more about the real life planes and the history of them, even if it makes the video longer.
@DarkTheFailure
7 ай бұрын
That MLD edit almost convinced me it was better than the J7E, almost. Also Mig21 video plz (I want to see you suffer with the 10,000 variants)
@ViperFox_
7 ай бұрын
Finally some MiG-27 love. I absolutely LOVE that plane and with the BR changes it makes it even more fun to fly. People talk about the GAU-8 until I school them on who the real daddy is. The GsH-6-30. Fav gun ever. Dismantling wallet warrior F-5s and F-4s has never been better. Severely slept on plane in ARB but kinda like it that way lol. Also Area 88 edit flawless
@XenoMobilePhones
2 ай бұрын
13:39 ultrakill ost detected
@thathusk9119
7 ай бұрын
Just from this video alone, I have fallen in love.
@manofconstantgold
6 ай бұрын
Should note, I believe the Syrians were allowed to buy a few new production MLDs, so not exactly non-export.
@axolotl_attacks
5 ай бұрын
Did anyone notice when talking about the mla he was playing the mld (just observation no hate)
The mig23 MLD became one of fav top tier jet with the mirage 2000 because it fits my aggressive playstyle. Also you forgot to talk about the really good advantage of it's radar which is J band frequency afaik some top tier jets RWR can't detect it so they only realize I fired a R24 at them once they get sent to the hangar
@canardboiteux4317
7 ай бұрын
jujutsu kaisen war thunder and guilty gear in one video, this is a masterpiece
@scifidude184
7 ай бұрын
TLDR about its IRL performance. Cheap aircraft given to poor countries. These countries bought them and cheaped out on maintenance and pilot training.
@danielanson3882
6 ай бұрын
My mom hasn’t ever bought me a WT plane but I still love my mom. She’s the best.
@ps1_hagrid_gaming517
7 ай бұрын
That intro killed me 😂
@bonline.
5 ай бұрын
31:58 i got a cs2 knife and sold it so i thought i could get a boost for the tech tree
@TheChickenJ
7 ай бұрын
Casual or competitive 4v4, air spawn, fighters only, 5 rounds. A round is won by destroying EVERY enemy aircraft. No respawns. First team to 3 victories wins. A missile limit mode is available to BR12+ aircraft, limiting missiles to 50% of total payload. E.g. F15 can carry only 2 AIM7s and only 2 AIM9s. This could change for balancing purposes, just an idea. Each game will give you rank. There is also a casual mode, with random matchmaker.
@walsh5243
6 ай бұрын
the ULTRAKILL ost slaps hard
@littlep0d087
7 ай бұрын
This guy didn’t hold back when memjng this video.
@RaNoL1N_ilia
7 ай бұрын
Fun fact mig 23 is the only plane i know with 0 rp for some modifications , when you have researched r23r/r24r, r23t/24t are 0 rp so you got them instantly
@ki11er0ne9
7 ай бұрын
Now we need a mig21 or f4 family guide
@oiled_frogs
2 ай бұрын
here post mig23 nerf, sad about what they did to my babies
@otakubaum
7 ай бұрын
I think I just watched a movie❤
@dotnask0001
7 ай бұрын
13:42 IS THAT A FUCKING ULTRAKILL REFERENCE?!
@DaweSMF
7 ай бұрын
1:47 the emblem on the rudder suggests its Czechoslovak MIG-23. The "shark mouth" is correct, the rest of the "camouflage" not so much.
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
that is indeed a correct camofluage. The aircraft is MiG-23MF #3646 of the Czechoslovak air force. That exact plane is preserved in a museum today afaik, with many pictures of it on the internet.
@ItalianStarAnimations
7 ай бұрын
Okay so, I happen to be one of those F-4S guys who rockets bases to oblivion, don't blame me I played only ground basically before Christmas 2023 when I got the money I needed to buy the F-4S, and let me say, the MiG-23s are really tough opponents, but once you get the hand of the Phantom and how to fight in it, MiG-23MLs are not scary anymore, maybe MLDs, but those too get less scary when you understand how to properly Sparrow at close range... And the AIM-9H, just forget about it, the only times you'll get kills with it is when some enemy you locked is sleeping while playing, a single flare takes the AIM-9H away. Oh and btw can we get a Phantom family guide?
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
F-4 family guide is planned in the future.
@veryepic2831
7 ай бұрын
A fucking jjk reference and ultrakill reference, bravo i say, bravo
@WanWan-em5qu
7 ай бұрын
Domain expansion: Malevolent shrine 💀🏯💀 🫸⛩️🫷
@sturmovik_80
7 ай бұрын
ingame modell of the Mig-23BN has actually type 2 wing
@Tymsonk1_2PDW_
4 ай бұрын
J-7 said: nuh uh id win
@RaNoL1N_ilia
7 ай бұрын
Why part of a video called "german mig 29g" ?
@Luke27WT
7 ай бұрын
29:49 whats the anime btw?
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
Area 88
@Luke27WT
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache thanks.
@wyvern8421
7 ай бұрын
Lobotomy thunder go brrrrrrr
@DroppedM
7 ай бұрын
Absolute banger
@jackgamer6307
7 ай бұрын
Calling the GSh-23 "great" in a sane society would be a one way ticket to an insane asylum. What is bro smoking?
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
with default belts and spread its crap. Once you get down how to lead the gun correctly and unlock the better ammo belts, its a great weapon.
@jackgamer6307
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache I've run all HE. Dealt no damage. I've run all AP. Dealt no damage. I've run the default. Dealt no damage but at least it's free. I have the accuracy mod and no difference. The one good thing about this steaming pile of garbage is at least it's accurate. It's accurately following the trajectory of a Mk.108 loaded with pure concrete shells, but at least it's accurate. My issues with it are the negative muzzle velocity, the position of the gun on the plane (gun shoots downwards and is placed on the lowest point of the body, your limp dick piss stream never even meets your crosshair without a ballistic computer), it has less than no ammo with an absurd rate of fire and no matter what shell I use the hits are somehow less consistant than the gaijin server performance during an event. I'd actually rather use Hispano 404s than the GSh-23, because the [Error 404, damage not found] at least has a usable velocity and usually enough ammo not to be all spent if you look at the trigger for a microsecond
@cheeselordthe11th47
7 ай бұрын
The gun does very good damage, most Soviet jets use Gsh23, and the gun is most definitely an upgrade from the NR37 and NS23 people are used to from the early jets in the Soviet tech tree, Gsh23 has very good fire rates, very good damage, just hard to aim. Once you get used to it(most USSR players do) it is a very good gun
@jackgamer6307
7 ай бұрын
@@cheeselordthe11th47 The [whateverthefuck]-30 on the Su-17 is way better than the pissgun in every aspect but ammo count and maybe fire rate, but honestly... Do you ACTUALLY think the absurd fire rate is a GOOD thing with only 200 rounds of ammo? You have less trigger time than a Yak-9K's 45mm cannon
@cheeselordthe11th47
7 ай бұрын
@@jackgamer6307 if you play the Soviet line then you get used to 0 ammo lmao💀 I rarely run out of ammo in my mig21, plus I’m not saying it’s the best, there are definitely better guns but this gun is good too. Anyways Yak9K actually have a decent trigger time for a Soviet plane because of the low fire rate
@discover3024
6 ай бұрын
People tend to forget how hard US mains wept after they faced the MLD for the first time- undeniably the most potent and dominating aircraft in War Thunder before the 4th gens
@egoalter1276
26 күн бұрын
The MLD is without question a 4th gen. It has relyable BVR capability, its supermanouverable, it can supercruise, and its robustly multirole.
@sofielee4122
6 ай бұрын
god i wish theyd add a non premium intruder. one of my fav planes but i dont wanna be *that person*
@argduck
7 ай бұрын
Finally a mig23 vid
@S1mplw123
5 ай бұрын
mig23 became gojo for abit
@bagelmaster2498
7 ай бұрын
Not sure if you cover this but the mig23mla mld and ml all are for some reason the fastest planes in the game
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
thats incorrect. The later Kfirs, F-111, and various top tier jets all beat the MiG-23 in terms of top speed.
@bagelmaster2498
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache kzitem.infouM1U74Bejhw?si=VNm5MT4nBfgXppGe unless it has changed since this video this is what I am basing it off of.
@DonutWithMustache
7 ай бұрын
@@bagelmaster2498 That video is almost a year old. the F-111 which was released a few months ago is faster. Also that video only takes into account top speed at high altitude (10k+ meters), which you will NEVER be at in a real match unless you want to catch a radar missile and die first. jets are alot slower at lower altitudes due to the increased air resistance.
@bagelmaster2498
7 ай бұрын
@@DonutWithMustache I recognize this, but my original statement doesn’t talk about usable in match or altitude dependent simply what was fastest.
@salami052
7 ай бұрын
Im gonna go get the mig23MLD just because of that jjk reference
@wizardsvodka9073
7 ай бұрын
Gambling bideo rn be like: Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power. Anyways nice video. MiG-23MLDonussy so hard I slapped a talisman when I needed something to grind rank 8
@ghilliemaster5392
4 ай бұрын
What is that song at the end with the mig 23s it sounds so good
@DonutWithMustache
4 ай бұрын
Landyishi - Atomic Thunder OST (from the War Thunder x Atomic Heart event last year)
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