I’m convinced that the PvZC team is just fans of the game that don’t know game design works
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
11 ай бұрын
Funny that the PvZ equivalent of SMM “Little Timmy” levels are made by the devs unironically.
@BunnyJolf
11 ай бұрын
So like mod creators
@miimiiandco
11 ай бұрын
I honestly think that statement might have some truth to it!
@UlyssesK402
11 ай бұрын
You'd convince me Earth is flat before you disprove this statement beyond a shadow of the doubt. (Edit: To clarify, I'm strongly inclined to agree with the original statement.)
@Sandu7231
11 ай бұрын
@@Coromeskmakes sense because is a CHINESE VERSIÓN of pvz 2 with his exclusive content for the country.😅
@Techno_baller_67
11 ай бұрын
Please never stop making videos of this series, it's some of the best modern pvz content out there and i love it
@taghreedali1948
11 ай бұрын
Most likely because it’s the ONLY good modern PvZ content (*ahem* Zomvoid)
@Techno_baller_67
11 ай бұрын
@@taghreedali1948 yeah I agree, ZomVoid is just one of those clickbait pvz channels that are only made to trick kids and use them for money which I just find sad yet messed up
@@woo.yeah.creeps20 is one of my favorite alongside flag zombie. There's also ducky tube zombie which makes pretty good pvz content
@jonong3836
11 ай бұрын
This is why it’s called Memory Lane. The levels are so torturous it will literally carve itself into your memory.
@Nobodyismyname593
6 ай бұрын
Good one
@UlyssesK402
11 ай бұрын
"These ones don't spawn gargs." My thought process was "Oh good." "Wait are these tents going to be worse someho-"
@hinotoritheobliterator6556
11 ай бұрын
Cue hyper speed Jack-in-the-Boxes
@life_is_a_myth
11 ай бұрын
@@hinotoritheobliterator6556It wouldn't be that bad if they were at least Half Health like Zombie Nibble Zombie Quick in PvZ1 or like Shrinking Violet's Zombies.
@UlyssesK402
11 ай бұрын
@@life_is_a_myth They should probably also just be Level 1. Besides, it ain't 'xactly fair that *they* get to be higher level, while *you're* still forced to use Level 1 plants. Actually makes me wonder if these levels were somehow tested with Level 5s.
@life_is_a_myth
11 ай бұрын
@@UlyssesK402 Oh right. That too.😂
@Pihsrosnec
11 ай бұрын
they're so fast holy shit, a jack-in-the-box zombie reaching the house without exploding is also super cursed lol
@bbboi9127
11 ай бұрын
I feel like the main problem with all these levels are the objectives. You have really specific ones like the kill zombies with melon pult while you’re facing a level that’s already hard to survive on its own. Plus there’s a timer so better no waste to much time!
@UlyssesK402
11 ай бұрын
And the fabric of reality apparently becomes less stable as the timer ticks down. Wormholes relocate your plants, portals spawn more zombies, and a black hole relocates and possibly even kills your plants. ...do we really need that?
@heckincat1406
11 ай бұрын
Hey Flag Zombie, I just wanted to say that I truly appreciate your content, like every other one of your subscribers. You earned them all. PVZ2 stands pretty near my heart as a 2006 kid, I remember watching people like Zackscott play the game and listening to the old UB and demonstration minigame music gleefully. Nowadays, it's much more stale, but your content has sort of reignited the spark of which started to become snuffed out with the content being released for the game. I'm really grateful for your content.
@Rito20
11 ай бұрын
I've got this sneaking suspicion that memory lane might not be very good
@carljohnson7582
11 ай бұрын
6 of the 10 "horrible level design" videos are from memory lane levels
@UlyssesK402
11 ай бұрын
Gee, may I ask what gives you such a *ridiculous* idea? [giggles]
@-rlmn
5 ай бұрын
@@carljohnson7582the first is a piñata party that has the same day as my birthday
@otienat9974
11 ай бұрын
8:10 Here is the little fun fact: Jack-in-the-box Zombie when first-released has glitch that if you hypnotize him he will crash the game when he encounter non-hypnotized zombie.
@randomprotag9329
11 ай бұрын
PVZ2C has a real talent for making two tent spawning at beginning levels anti game design in different ways. they should just stop with spawning tents beginning of level.
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast
11 ай бұрын
Wow, I was just watching one of your other Horrible Level Design videos when I was notified of this. The more, the better! EDIT: Even better, it was the one featuring the tent gargs. The similarities keep adding up!
@smg5962
11 ай бұрын
Flag zombie is bouta make an entire season for BWB at this point _💀_
@DragonTheOneDZA
11 ай бұрын
_SLANTED SKULL EMOJI_
@RandomBloonStuff
11 ай бұрын
@@DragonTheOneDZA I didn't even notice _💀_
@RandomBloonStuff
11 ай бұрын
@@DragonTheOneDZA I am on PC now and it isn't slanted. Weird.
@user-Pies163
11 ай бұрын
Level 9 memory lane will give you the memories of feeling pain for each time we experience and TRAUMA!!!
@GCalebB
11 ай бұрын
lets admire this dude for playing levels poorly designed jusy for our enjoyment
@Weirdo_89
11 ай бұрын
Wow, it's remarkable how talkweb wants to make a horrible level design
@mulitpower8827
11 ай бұрын
I’m literally calling that Jack in the Box Zombie will be one of the next zombies to be added in the versus mode If I actually end up being correct with this by the time the next update comes out, someone please let me know
@Its_bloon.yt2011
11 ай бұрын
You will knowing community ideas
@larrymantic2635
11 ай бұрын
I mean, it makes sense.
@somemadnessfan4763
11 ай бұрын
it's funny how they brought back Jack in The Box Zombie, even though the game already has TWO counterparts to him (Exploding Zombie and Furnace Zombie) but ig nostalgia over making sense amirite?
@angvunguyen3662
11 ай бұрын
What is even more funny is that the new jack in the box doesn't have the "Huh" sound when about to explode, while exploding zombie has it
@randomgapper
11 ай бұрын
Amazing Content as always
@Ermonacodimontagna
11 ай бұрын
In this season there is also a level that spams Gargantuas (i believe it's the third) and another one where you have to kill zombies with boom balloon which were really awful and would make for some cool episodes
@InsertFunnyThingHere
11 ай бұрын
Ah memory lane hard, only the bestest of game design allowed in... And gargantuars, a lot of em
@lamenwatch1877
11 ай бұрын
8:28 The sync between the Cherry Bomb and the music here is impeccable.
@flagzombie
11 ай бұрын
Yep, did that on purpose.
@memerboi7128
11 ай бұрын
Zombie ain’t nimble but they quick
@buffete3753
11 ай бұрын
Jack in the box zombie is in the china version ? Damn this make me even more envious of this game , but as Always , thanks for showing off those Amazing level disign with no flaws whatsoever !
@djm334-goomodding
11 ай бұрын
Can’t wait until Talkweb makes an objective that’s just “Do not do anything”
@Saifullah_4112
11 ай бұрын
*_Memory lane, Makes unforgettable traumatic memories!_*
@tree1594
11 ай бұрын
me when im forced to use melon pults against an endlessly respawning horde of tanky fast zombies
@chomper1014
11 ай бұрын
Excellent video my dude.👌😎
@nibyafternight1983
11 ай бұрын
Honestly one of the main reasons I still watch your videos is for the music selection! I excited about what track would play next in every video!
@nathanielhiponia7580
11 ай бұрын
I kinda notice that the jack in the box in pv2c doesn't make a noise compare to the pvz1 counterpart
@n0tinctrl
11 ай бұрын
is anyone else somewhat creeped out by the new jack in the box zombie design or is that just me 🫠
@life_is_a_myth
11 ай бұрын
14:24 That is the most passive-aggressive "compliment" I ever seen.😂
@dana.d.4627
11 ай бұрын
A lot of the terrible level designs are from Memory Lane. Guess the devs don't remember how to make good levels.
@skeletno
11 ай бұрын
9:28 the disrespect for Twin Sunflower...
@angvunguyen3662
11 ай бұрын
Lmao, when I saw the "memory lane", I guessed it is the level with small jack in the box tent, and yes I was right, hate this level so much
@Atlasraliff
11 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting that mini jack in the box zombie at the beginning lmao
@tombraiserzombie2581
11 ай бұрын
It’s called Memory Lane cause they want to remember all of the trauma
@thexwhats2989
11 ай бұрын
Flag zombie is the rare pvz youtuber who doesn't have clickbait thumbnails and mindless content
@MAXIMA
11 ай бұрын
Other plant if you don't have gumnut is Narcissus , she is really good for the final bucket head zombies, Narcissus removes the armor for all the zombies, ignoring the level of the zombies
@someonerandom7398
11 ай бұрын
unrelated but i love your choice of music, im a sonic fan so it was nice to see some music from sonic games
@Moxilock
11 ай бұрын
You know its gonna be a good episode when its a Memory Lane one
@MartinYAYs
11 ай бұрын
The Club Penguin songs fit so well lol
@someguy3267
11 ай бұрын
I guess If there's one silver lining, the level with the Boom Balloon Flowers was actually a dope puzzle stage. I wonder If that was a level yoinked from the Creative Courtyard, and given objectives in here, because I'm pretty sure a requirement to be a Hard Memory Lane level is to be bullshit. Oh well, at least there was *a* good level.
@Jimmy_a_Vietnamese_dude
11 ай бұрын
I want to ask you a question that this stage not allow you to bring high-level melonpult, right?
@flagzombie
11 ай бұрын
Memory Lane sets all of your plants to level 1.
@kityondzhou6863
11 ай бұрын
@@flagzombiei dont want to remeber memory lane😢
@jessicarodriguez1376
10 ай бұрын
If its calles memory lane its because They want you to remember it
@oratualvideos
11 ай бұрын
They should hire you to make the levels
@TartagliaThe_11th_McDsEmployee
11 ай бұрын
I was about to sleep until i saw flag zombie posted another video about terrible level designs
@theonlyshinyumbreon
11 ай бұрын
It looks like the invincible hypnotized jack in the box zombies might be (somehow?) caused by gumnut
@hovinhhao5235
11 ай бұрын
8:30 The game didn't registered the existence of that zombie when he had just come out of the tent, hence Jalapeno did nothing to him. This one is related to coding , as the object didn't appear despite having showing up animation. Edit: I realized that he talked about the one got stuck in Gumnut's gum. Then I have no clue.
@chengxingdynasty
11 ай бұрын
Great video!
@Neon_Here09
11 ай бұрын
5:14 "All the Fun of the Fair" yeah, sure it does
@BunnyJolf
11 ай бұрын
I swear PvZ burnt the food intentionally cause they knew people would eat it
@giftedphotonbee5220
11 ай бұрын
At this rate, just put all of hard memory lane’s levels on this series. Every single one on here looks like they didn’t test it AT ALL.
@ashtheorange
11 ай бұрын
my ptsd kicks in when the tents appeared
@biscuitporkasmealchoice6741
11 ай бұрын
I've always said that blover haters would not survive the winter, and now we've found the winter in question
@64Bullseye
11 ай бұрын
I KNEW this level was going to show up in this series. Explode-o-nuts are pretty decent as they can damage the tents and stall for the jack in the boxes. Paired with vase-pult the tents don’t last long. (But the melon-pult objective is flat out stupid tho) Besides this (and level 8) This was probably one of the easier hard mode seasons, as I managed to get the glory days, extreme challenge and crazy trip achievements from this one season. (Also magnet shrooms DO NOT work on Jack in the boxes anymore)
@hovinhhao5235
11 ай бұрын
Well Jack-in-a-box Zombies r lvl 3 and 4 while Magnet-shroom is lvl 1, and u know what happens right?
@64Bullseye
11 ай бұрын
@@hovinhhao5235Yeah. I completely forgot that was a thing. However, knowing the devs, they probably made them immune to magnet. Is there a level in normal mode where jack in the boxes are level 1?
@AveragealienWhocosplays-gj2tg
11 ай бұрын
Me seeeing the jack in the boxes: oh cool they were added surely they are like their pvz1 counterparts Me seeing how fast they go through a primal wallnut: oh sweet jesus
@jacobg6299
11 ай бұрын
1:16 all ready did
@Justcommentinhere
11 ай бұрын
BABE WAKE UP!!!
@nicooko_pvp
11 ай бұрын
the music in the beginning was made in beepbox lol, there is no way i cant recognize those drums
@FelipeGames-py4gr
11 ай бұрын
Drinking Game: Take a shot for every episode of "Horrible Level Design" that is a Memory Lane level
@jessicarodriguez1376
10 ай бұрын
Takes 10000000000000 shots
@LanaIsUnderrated
11 ай бұрын
This level wouldnt even be that hard if all plants werent locked behind level 1 a level 3-5 melon pult wouldve taken out those zombies much easier but NOPE, its fucking level 1, where its strength is compareable to trying to destroy a literal armored tank with a god damn slingshot
@Jakewebmaster8
11 ай бұрын
Couldn't have you used Hurrikale instead of Blover since Hurrikale kills bug zombies in one lane and also pushes zombies back?
@flagzombie
11 ай бұрын
Hurrikale doesn't kill flying zombies in this version.
@ahmedzaveel1665
11 ай бұрын
Only one lane, that's the issue
@Jakewebmaster8
11 ай бұрын
@@flagzombie Wait really? Dang I thought they did
@RGC_animation
11 ай бұрын
Not even 1 minute in the level and we can already see how bad the level design is xD
@rextanglr4056
11 ай бұрын
it's pvz2c's memory lane. i am not surprised in the slightest.
@minusterry5711
3 ай бұрын
From Memory Lane to Nightmare Road.
@baconandx1858
11 ай бұрын
I hand’t played pvz 2 in ages but I knew they gave levels to plants, but I just hope the zombies in the U.S. version don’t have levels too because that’d just be another thing that goes against how pvz 1 balanced dangerous enemies
@supremechaosbeing2696
6 ай бұрын
I think if you used Tallnut you could have actually farmed bugs for melon kills. first time tallnut has been useful. I also think you might have been able to swap out gold bloom for celery stalker to destroy tents, or whatever PvZ2C has that's better than it
@raulgp5410
11 ай бұрын
Man wft with the pinata party on Reflourished?
@angelinasoriano5694
11 ай бұрын
What happen to you box zombie hypno? Ha ha ha ha ha! That’s so funny 9:09
@Sombraro7
11 ай бұрын
I think the hypnotized Jack in the box dont take damage because of gumnut
@MrMariosonicman
11 ай бұрын
At this point. It might as well be called "horrible memory lane hard design" this shows up so frequently.
@КостяЗозуля-е3я
11 ай бұрын
Just one level? Im disappointed of them
@IndeedNotYan
11 ай бұрын
Basically "Zombie Nimble Zombie Quick"
@user-cm5mp8vb2f
11 ай бұрын
I have a problem : i try to download pvz2 chinese version but that doesn't work and an error message appear : the app isn't instaled
@jessetime159
9 ай бұрын
This is why I prefer the Penny's Pursuit and Arena in PVZ2 Vanilla because at least it doesn't force the player to complete the objectives to beat the levels and it makes them optional.
@thelightningbolt9
11 ай бұрын
This is probably the most brainf**k level I have ever seen on your channel so far. And no, not even the one with tants spawning Gargs. I doubt that Turkey Pult could have been useful here because of the Melon-Pult objective.
@PRIOTRODON
11 ай бұрын
Agreed
@thelightningbolt9
11 ай бұрын
@@PRIOTRODON heyyy, man, I did not expect to see you here. Hello :D How are you doing? Have you known about Flag's channel before?
@PRIOTRODON
11 ай бұрын
@@thelightningbolt9 I'm just a PvZ2 nerd stopping by! and yes I've been following Flag for a while, from the overanalyzing series 😃
@witchhazel415
11 ай бұрын
Turkey-pult specializes in dealing with gargs (regardless of their level) as it can spawn another turkey by the time the previous one is destroyed, but high level regular zombies? I don't think that'll go well, especially when the said zombies are faster than usual. sup Lightbolt :p
@thelightningbolt9
11 ай бұрын
@@witchhazel415 thanks for explaining that plant's mechanics, I knew nothing about it lol. Also, hi :)
@Shades423
11 ай бұрын
also i think fairytale level 9 is insanely hard because of the insane garg rush at the end.
@wronger-wrongest
11 ай бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but this one looks kind of nitpicky. Zombies were plentiful and had high health so that you are forced to use instas, they were small and fast so that you are forced to use stalling, and there is melon kills objective so you are forced to use attackers - seems like balanced challenge to me. And it looked like there were several moments, when using plant food on melon instead of using insta plant would net many kills. Also, to the points of "you have to do something specific", "you have to use something specific", "it's too hard", - isn't that literally how challenging strategy game is supposed to be?
@trinitroid7893
11 ай бұрын
Isn't the whole point of the little zombie gimmick is to make them fast yet fragile? Did they seriously forgot to divide their health?
@lustformoney5294
11 ай бұрын
Flag, Can you make a video of how family modification works? I don't know how that function works to reduce the cost to the plants :)
@tmes69
11 ай бұрын
Lessgo welcome !!
@brinefilopolski33
11 ай бұрын
Jack in a box
@KraylebStudios
11 ай бұрын
New intro omg!!
@goatrex7181
11 ай бұрын
I have a question what would happen if A Walrus zombie and Ski Zombie encounter a Saucer Squash?
@forcedexcess26
11 ай бұрын
How is something like this allowed in a video game?
@thatliquidthing1903
11 ай бұрын
Can I just say that I absolutely hate the Jack “redesign?” It’s funny to me that when it comes to remaking PvZ1 zombies nowadays, the international team makes the designs worse with weird animations, and the Chinese team just traces art and reuses animations from the source material.
@GizemKapsonu
11 ай бұрын
What happen if we shrink "Small" zombie?
@PeterKart4444
11 ай бұрын
i thought jacks were bad enough in survival endless
@SillySillygoose_
11 ай бұрын
Another bad designed level: this weeks premium pack levels level 4 (main game)
@adrishab9512
11 ай бұрын
At this point i think they know ab this series so they intentionally make a bad lvl for you
@edredommilitarliveseclipes5282
11 ай бұрын
Soo flag zombie how do you get these artifacts? Like this giant seed? I only have the catapult and the healing staff
@Kiminorama
11 ай бұрын
Did he beat the level with hypno shroom only because of the bug??
@krushgames3134
11 ай бұрын
Hi 10th comment
@Eliza-hb1nc
11 ай бұрын
would winter melon count for the objective? doesn't matter, since you'd die before you get the 500 sun, but would it?
@flagzombie
11 ай бұрын
No it doesn't count and does nothing since tiny zombies are immune to slowing plants.
@Eliza-hb1nc
11 ай бұрын
@@flagzombie not surprised. while it is a melon, it is technically a different plant i guess
@toxic_shr00m
11 ай бұрын
Memory Lane really loves showing up here huh?
@shingkung3974
11 ай бұрын
carnival night zone prototype enjoyer😭😭😭
@squidtilus0.400
11 ай бұрын
Good job.
@Ebina_on_roblox230
11 ай бұрын
Is refreshing comments working for anyone else, it is not working for me.
@nilpyc307
5 ай бұрын
im convinced that chat gpt is better than making levels than the pvz2 team
@Acefeto-2
11 ай бұрын
I love PvZ 2 chinese version, it's way more fun and theres much more things to do edit: I don't like memory lane bc you can only play it if u really good at the game, and even if you are it's extreme difficult
@Death_is_Crimson
11 ай бұрын
Is it necessary to pay money to get the new premiums??
@nguido72110
11 ай бұрын
Why does most of these horrible levels come from memory lane (hard)?
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