Interesting but the last part sounds rather like a load of bull to me. However, most legends begin from somewhere and I'm quite prepared to believe he picked up an animal's skull (if he'd chopped a bull's head off a carcase and tried to hollow it out as a helmet he would still have been there scraping and gouging after everyone else had gone home.)
@georgecheney7888
2 жыл бұрын
And yet it is part of our coat of arms to this day...
@johnvanderspeigle2894
2 жыл бұрын
He most likely fought like a bull and that´s where the story came from.
@georgeferrier4373
9 ай бұрын
I was an Army Sargent Stationed in Germany my grandmother was Etta Cheney from Fowlerville MI so when I went to England I visited the Collage of Heraldry who confirmed the story with several written Documents about it I was also told his Crest was in Westminster Abbey in the Order of the Bath Chapel which I found with some help a showed other items
@justinneill5003
9 ай бұрын
@@georgeferrier4373 It’s a sensational story, like the story of my distant ancestor, one of the O’Neills, who contested for the kingship of Ulster in a swimming race at sea with his rival (the first to touch the land would claim it.) Seeing that he wasn’t going to make it, he supposedly cut off his own hand and threw it onto the beach, thus claiming Ulster for himself; and from that legend came the Red Hand of Ulster which became part of our family crest, and exists to this day as a symbol of Ulster. Sensational, romantic even, but clearly impossible; either fabricated or embellished, but nonetheless sewn into the fabric of history. This is also one of those legends, nobody in their right mind would accept at face value the idea of Sir John beheading a bull’s carcass, somehow hollowing it out, jamming it onto his head with the blood and brain tissue squelching into his hair, and his enemies waiting patiently for him to complete the task before resuming combat. What might be plausible is if the bull’s remains were skeletal rather than a carcass, and the skull was already hollow and ready to use. The reality must lie somewhere between that and complete fabrication. One thing that certainly is beyond dispute however is the size of John Cheyne. When they opened his tomb they found a thigh bone which puts his height at around 6’7”.
@rosemaryallen2128
11 ай бұрын
Umm. Alternatively, to be associated with Elizabeth Woodville, Buckingham and Henry Tudor suggests one of the self-seeking, treacherous individuals who had forgotten the meaning of honour.
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