God is always with me. This is a timely message. I was telling my spouse earlier today how tired I am from everything happening in my life. Then this video popped up in my feed. Pray for my youngest child. 😞 Thank you to all who pray.
@milliecharisma
2 ай бұрын
Starting afresh in 2024
@EnieT
2 ай бұрын
How is the fresh start going?
@onerider808
Ай бұрын
Good luck and go with God
@bairfreedom
Ай бұрын
Needed a re-charge myself. Reading this, the New testement and scheduling daily prayer. Stay strong in the Lord sister
@truincanada
11 күн бұрын
Jesus Christ is alive and well in our physical world and therefore is always available to us as you say in a FRESH divine point of view. Fight the Good fight. 😊
@kaitlineggert329
5 күн бұрын
Amen
@ttestates1
15 күн бұрын
This book changed my life
@randy9876qwq
12 күн бұрын
These five hours should be compulsory listening for all. Amen.
@WRONGHOUSE_
7 күн бұрын
If this had been in every classroom in the world 30 years ago, the world would be in much better shape today. It's sad to say goodbye to America. Unfortunately it's to far gone to save at this point. I pray the Lord returns soon.
@nailsbylinh
2 ай бұрын
“God made us, He invented us, like a man invented an engine. A car is made to run on gasoline, and it would not run on anything else. Now God designed the human machine to run on Himself. He Himself is the fuel our spirits were designed to burn, or the food our spirits were designed to feed on. There is no other.” -C.S. Lewis Powerful.
@Fireworxs2012
Ай бұрын
*And yet Billions of People operate and function every single day of their lives not knowing anything of the "Christian God", nor caring or seeing any debit in their lives because of that...How do YOU explain that?*
@coolhappyblue
Ай бұрын
@@Fireworxs2012the affect of God is in every man's conscience. The instruction: "Do to others as you want them to do to you" Is imprinted by God's spirit in our inward being before birth. To keep doing what is right, we are designed to run on God's spirit. Yes, God is the God of the Christians. But how can ignorance of Christian doctrine nullify the central truth that we need God's spirit in us?
@jasonaltig985
Ай бұрын
Nonsense. It is merely a claim with no evidence.
@jasonaltig985
Ай бұрын
@@coolhappybluewell first you would need to demonstrate God’s existence.
@Fireworxs2012
Ай бұрын
@@coolhappyblue *If you don't already know the answer to that question, then you, are indeed more lost than any Atheist I've ever known*
@mspencerl87
2 ай бұрын
Listen to this every night at bed. Made it through about 20 times so far. 15-20 mins every night before oblivion comes. Love this amazing book
@wm9317
Ай бұрын
That's a great idea. I'm going to give it a try. Thank you. The narrator's pleasant voice would definitely lend itself to drifting away nicely.
@GroundBeef1
Ай бұрын
I'm also doing this, there is something that pulls me so strongly to the words in this book. I'm glad I'm not alone! Question, are you christian? I've been an atheist all my life, but this book is moving me to God.
@wm9317
Ай бұрын
@@GroundBeef1 You may not have been asking me, but I feel like I have something to share here. I was a staunch atheist for the first 40 years of my life. I required proof, and was a fervent skeptic. I now have faith beyond any reasonable doubt in my mind. Everything changed for me overnight by accepting Christ. It has been incredibly profound.
@michaelnapper4565
Ай бұрын
Same!!
@mikepavlow6959
Ай бұрын
Night time is great.
@visol1030
2 ай бұрын
32:40 Book 1 Chapter 3 40:23 Book 1 Chapter 4 50:00 Book 1 Chapter 5 58:19 book2 58:23 Book 2 Chapter 1 1:04:58 Book2 Chapter 2 1:15:47 Book2 Chapter 3 1:25:29 Book2 Chapter 4 1:36:12 Book2 Chapter 5 1:45:48 Book 3 1:35:53 Book 3 chapter 1 1:56:22 Book 3 chapter 2 2:03:32 Book 3 chapter 3 2:13:09 Book 3 Chapter 4 2:22:53 Book 3 Chapter 5 2:37:58 Book 3 Chapter 6 2:55:06 Book 3 Chapter 7 3:04:53 Book 3 Chapter 8 3:17:20 skipped to Chapter 9 3:23:02 Book 3 Chapter 10 3:29:23 Book 3 chapter 11 3:38:27 Book 3 Chapter 12 3:48:19 Book 4 3:48:26 Book 4 chapter 1 (the ordinary reader -skipped to next page 154 line 7) 3:58:12 Book 4 chapter 2 4:07:39 Book 4 chapter 3 4:15:22 Book 4 Chapter 4 4:24:21 Book 4 Chapter 5 4:31:14 Book 4 Chapter 6 4:33:37 skipped chapter 7 and go to chapter 8 (from p.184 to p.197) 4:34:57 skipped to the last sentence of p.198) 4:37:56 Book 4 chapter 9 4:45:32 Book 4 chapter 10 5:02:10 Book 4 chapter 11
@spinrocky7558
16 күн бұрын
Thank you
@ReactsRiot
8 күн бұрын
Thank you
@srwagner324
20 күн бұрын
Only Jesus, faith in him forever no matter what Amen. I love you Lord Jesus. God Bless all Christians ✝️ ❤
@RWB20
Ай бұрын
Here, a great man speaks wise words. In 2024, there is not one leader who speaks wise words, yet there are many fools certain they will change the world. 🙄😇
@busker153
2 ай бұрын
The purpose of creation was for God to enjoy the particular pleasure of ever-increasing love. Within the trinity, the love is perfect, and therefore never increasing. God is love, and God therefore needs nothing more. He did not create us out of any sense of need, or He would not be God. He created us out of desire. For his good PLEASURE we are, and were created. The more we know Him, the more we love Him, and we will spend eternity getting to know Him more, and there will always be more to get to know. Hence, ever increasing love. But, He loves us with perfect love, so we get to taste that, too.
@darlingusa2pettee57
3 ай бұрын
This is my favorite among all of the recordings of C.S. Lewis. This voice suits it perfectly. Thank you.
@benry007
3 ай бұрын
Ita a great voice for it. Its the same voice actor that did a bunch if voices from the Game elder scrolls oblivion so its really familiar to me.
@Stupidityindex
2 ай бұрын
Nonsense done with a nice voice. It is by faith in God we trade, a cow for magic beans, thereby climbing a stalk to heaven. One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. it is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13 An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children.
@juderogers7946
Ай бұрын
There are places in this recording where words, even sentences, are skipped or dropped from the recording.
@werkzeugmann6224
2 ай бұрын
Lewis is the most intellectually honest and "based" Christian existential thinker ever to describe mankind's plight versus Gods worldview!
@WackoJacko2016
2 ай бұрын
I’m 39, father of 2 and after a very beautiful 10 years 27-37, I have found myself in a tough spot. I didn’t think it was possible. I’d never given any sincere thought or respect towards religion or what is moral other then cuz I said so….. Struggle def made me look for help and though I’m not sure where I’m going this feels right.
@gorgo4910
2 ай бұрын
It’s written on our hearts.
@therealtech833
2 ай бұрын
🙏🏼
@David_dickinson
2 ай бұрын
I’m currently discovering the same. I’m 35 and never felt needed god. But I need a guiding voice. recent political deciding policies and the entropy of the morals of many people around me has been getting worse. Good bless
@TbnrCJ
2 ай бұрын
I’ll be praying for both of you. “You will seek me and find me, when you seek me with all your heart” Jeremiah 23:19 “For God so loved the world that he sent his one and only son so that whomever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life” John 3:16 Read through the Gospel of John. Repent and place your faith in Jesus Christ to be saved! Find a good Bible based church and pursue . Keeping anyone looking for the Lord in my prayers
@WackoJacko2016
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate everyone’s support. I hadn’t noticed till know. Im learning and getting support from some unexpected places. My neighbour for the last 9 years is Christian and while we have always had a great relationship, they were religious and I wasn’t. Being ignorant in this area I decided to reach out and they’re committed to helping me learn. I have had so many unexpected positive conversations about my confused new outlook. It is remarkable how many people are also feeling this.
@edwardgarcia3718
Ай бұрын
Listening to “Mere Christianity” by CS Lewis again. The genius of this book lies in its simplicity. It’s magnificently thoughtful and nuanced, yet simple.
@andrewwright6238
3 ай бұрын
Author: 🖋 C.S. Lewis Format: 📻 Originally a series of radio broadcasts during World War II Sections: 📚 Divided into four parts: •"Right and Wrong as a Clue to the Meaning of the Universe" •"What Christians Believe" •"Christian Behavior" •"Beyond Personality: Or First Steps in the Doctrine of the Trinity" Main Themes: •Argues for the existence of a moral law as evidence for God's existence •Explores core beliefs of Christianity such as the existence of God, the divinity of Jesus Christ, and the importance of faith •Emphasizes "mere Christianity," common beliefs shared by different Christian denominations •Discusses Christian ethics and virtues like charity, chastity, and forgiveness •Addresses free will, the problem of evil, and the concept of redemption Audience: 🎯 Intended for both believers and skeptics, aiming to provide a rational basis for Christianity Legacy: 🌟 Widely regarded as a classic of Christian apologetics, influencing generations of readers with its logical arguments and insights into faith.
@haydenblack5648
8 күн бұрын
The part at 3:05:00 chapter 8 about PRIDE wow…. Changed my entire outlook on myself and life
@heidididit
2 күн бұрын
Never read this. 57 YO recovering alcoholic. 95 days sober 😮God brought me to AA and I’m realizing, AA is bring me to God. ❤
@usana239431
3 ай бұрын
I love to listen to this wisdom, it makes me happy. If only people could hear this before they reject it just for its title.
@SanguiniustheGreatAngel
2 ай бұрын
Starting at 14:25 is why many people move through multiple denominations and sects. They want an experience that makes them feel elevated from mundane life they currently have.
@GeorgeMarshall-hl2vm
3 ай бұрын
What Lewis said about salvation beginning at 3hour 30 minutes is very wise
@Lazers749
2 ай бұрын
I love everything he says!
@LALACIONTIOLALA
2 ай бұрын
You can timestamp in comments! 3:30:00 is what I imagine you mean
@Danielwshoemaker
11 күн бұрын
Lewis never gets old
@michelferreira9695
20 күн бұрын
Delicious reading/listening. So well articulated.
@praiseandworship7211
25 күн бұрын
"Mere Christianity" is a book by C.S. Lewis that explores Christian doctrine and ethics. It's a classic work that has been influential for many readers, both Christians and non-Christians alike. Lewis presents his arguments for the existence of God, the nature of morality, and the essence of Christian faith in a clear and accessible manner. The book has been praised for its logical reasoning and thought-provoking insights, making it a valuable resource for anyone interested in understanding the fundamentals of Christianity.
@RedPrataYT
21 күн бұрын
Pls God i ask for help. U promised to help when i seek u. Pls help me
@WRONGHOUSE_
7 күн бұрын
🙏🙏
@rivalspartan9254
2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed this
@nupogoi
3 ай бұрын
15:08 book 1
@LC-jq7vn
3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@mountainwolf1
2 ай бұрын
Also, thank you.
@debbieellett9093
26 күн бұрын
I truly hope those who complain about this reading, realize they are missing the point of the book. Listen again and work hard to take your wants out, and ask God to help you grow in your walk with Jesus. I am on my third time through this reading and know that the points I disliked, have brought new intuition into my own walk with our Lord.🙏❤🙏
@centurion7398
Ай бұрын
Thanks to Jaufre for taking a break from cloud ruler temple to read us some Lewis.
@MisterFluffyBags
Ай бұрын
Thank you! Nobody else mentioned that it was him. I thought i was going crazy.
@marcyshepard9828
5 ай бұрын
58:25 book 2
@marcyshepard9828
5 ай бұрын
1:56:20 book 3 chapter 2
@paulx7620
3 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍
@marcyshepard9828
5 ай бұрын
1:36:12 Book 2 chapter 5
@marcyshepard9828
5 ай бұрын
2:03:31 book 3 chapter 3
@marcyshepard9828
4 ай бұрын
Book 3 chapter 7 2:55:05
@marcyshepard9828
4 ай бұрын
Book 3 chapter 6 2:37:56
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
22:23 Ch 2: Some objections
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
15:17 Ch 1: Law of Human Nature
@50mccall49
2 ай бұрын
1:45:50 Book 3 Chapter 1
@marcyshepard9828
5 ай бұрын
Book 3 chapter 4 2:22:53
@marcyshepard9828
4 ай бұрын
Book 3 chapter 8 3:04:51
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
32:42 Ch3: Reality of the Law
@monicalifornia_
2 ай бұрын
3:17:19 but skip to chapter 9
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
40:27 Ch 4: What Lies Behind the Law
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
Book 2 Ch 1: 58:24
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
50:02 Ch 5
@Anna-vj5hp
2 ай бұрын
Bookmark 1:25:25
@jharris0341
7 күн бұрын
3:20:56 Gaing territory in the spiritual war
@WRONGHOUSE_
7 күн бұрын
Me too. Good luck, God bless.
@elizaleski9618
2 ай бұрын
Why does it cut between the seconds of 4:33:37-4:33:39
@joshuah_lee
Ай бұрын
15:14
@bigglesworth06
Ай бұрын
4:50
@CdellAdams
12 күн бұрын
44:39
@AlysonMuller
Ай бұрын
“This book is dedicated to all the useful idiots out there who made our victory possible. Especially those of you who weren’t even aware of the fact we were using you all along, for you proved to be the most useful idiots of them all. -Lord Nefarious”
@Zonthoria
20 күн бұрын
What does the part at the end mean where he mentions that we can only have a self when we give our self to Christ and that this is why Saints are all different? Would they not be the same if all are Christ or is it Christ acting through us, as he wants us to be? He also talks about how humans are unique but essential to the whole like the parts of a tree but about humans are unique considering God dwells in all of us? Thank you :)
@misternibbles7426
19 күн бұрын
He talks about that in The Screwtape Letters. He says it is one of the greatest paradoxes. God wants you to be like him, because he values your individuality. The only way you can truly ever be yourself is to give it to God.
@PVAPlayy
2 ай бұрын
2:37:56
@brandonanderson2066
Ай бұрын
3:56:00
@monicalifornia_
2 ай бұрын
2:45:26 several sentences skipped
@oreally8605
2 ай бұрын
This is what u 2 be should be about. Posting Truth instead of censorship of Christian conservatives.
@Mrs.Housewife15
2 ай бұрын
Be aware. Im following along with the book and there have been paragraphs chopped off at the beginning of some chapters. *edited for grammar mistakes.
@titaniumspecial4207
Ай бұрын
Reading the book is better, IMHO.
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
1:05:02 B2Ch2: The Invasion
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
1:15:53 B2Ch3
@marcyshepard9828
5 ай бұрын
1:15:49 chapter 3 book 2
@user-mn1zu5tl5i
9 күн бұрын
31:42 36:00
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
1:56:25 B3Ch2
@princessfunfetti1167
3 ай бұрын
1:32:25
@princessfunfetti1167
3 ай бұрын
3:20:53
@princessfunfetti1167
2 ай бұрын
4:00:41
@princessfunfetti1167
2 ай бұрын
5:03:48
@SamuelJones-qj1pi
2 ай бұрын
2:30:31 B3Ch3
@r.stanley1049
2 ай бұрын
“ChriSTAINity”? Typo or intentional?
@darkdispeller
26 күн бұрын
😮 I hear "the teaching of man in schools is man opposed to God's Holy Book. (about the planets-that is NO WHERE in that Book- read the creation model in Genesis 1). Also from this clip just after 1:19.19 (Genesis 6:9 says the "sons of God or angels took for themselves the daughter's of men"- it had everything to do with sex and the gene pool*) *extremely important to understand this, for of the last days, Jesus said, "as was in the days of Noah so will the last days to be"! Read what it says for yourself, not what you was taught in school and/or church Acts 17:11 ❤
@busker153
2 ай бұрын
Actually, psychoanalysis is diametrically opposed to Christianity. It replaces the salvation of sinful souls with the cure of sick minds. We are not sick men in need of a cure. We are dead men in need of life.
@nathansterner418
2 ай бұрын
“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.” Who can know they need a doctor unless the examine themselves and admit they need the cure. And also in accepting the cure, partaking in that cure.
@wesbleess1586
Ай бұрын
God nor Christ would not want people with poor mental health to be deprived of medical treatment for their mental health anymore than medical treatment for any other illness.
@busker153
Ай бұрын
@@wesbleess1586 What you are labeling mental health has nothing whatsoever to do with the medical field. What you, and your generation, call mental health, those of us who know the Truth call a sinful soul. The real Christ (not the fake christ of the soft cushy american cross) offers the cure for a sinful soul (what you falsely call poor mental health). Changing the salvation of sinful souls into the cure of sick minds is american idolatry. You would do well to repent, and stop preaching a false gospel.
@ebenoid6643
11 күн бұрын
The Psychological data used today in the US was gathered from the nazi regime during wwII. They did the work and the us adopted the information. Psychologists think Christian’s are stupid when we drop the truth about the Bible and scriptures are disregarded as if man are small god
@cassandraseven3478
Ай бұрын
Is this read by Lewis?
@haydenblack5648
12 күн бұрын
No in the beginning it gives the narrators name
@HHGary
Ай бұрын
Love Lewis, but why does ot skip around so much? Lots of text missing, also really annoying.
@kodyritt1681
29 күн бұрын
If you could estimate how much text was missing in the form of video, how much would you say? Like 30minutes to an hour? Or less
@aidengray3998
Ай бұрын
I'm an hour and fifty minutes in and he makes many points based on untruths, states things axiomatically without cause, disregards other perspectives out of personal incredulity, and doesn't address other explainations which do not require a god. So far I find this unconvincing in the extreme. He's a good writer, but maybe not so good an apologist, the friend who reccomended this book to me made a better case than Mr. Lewis has.
@thehausen5054
Ай бұрын
Can you give an example?
@FishermensCorner
Ай бұрын
are you around age 20?
@busker153
2 ай бұрын
I disagree. There is only one BEGOTTON son of God. In Job, we read of a time when the sons of God presented themselves in heaven, and satan was among them.
@DumbSheep88
Ай бұрын
Satan is created along with all the other sons of God (watchers, angelic beings,ect.) but the Triune God is the creator.
@thepolymathacademy4891
14 күн бұрын
Mere division & diversion of the actuality
@AndrewBrown-yf3hk
13 күн бұрын
Why do you say that? Did you not even listen?
@DennisMSulliva
2 ай бұрын
C.S. Served in combat in The Great War. He was wounded, people around him were killed. According to Christians I talk with, the Just god had Hell in store for Lewis, if he died heroically. Strange ideas, about right, and wrong.
@gorgo4910
2 ай бұрын
Excuse me, I don’t understand your comment. No one dies except at his appointed time.
@DennisMSulliva
2 ай бұрын
@@gorgo4910 You don't understand? I don't understand you! Appointed time? Huh? You don't recognize chance, or somebody choosing to end a life early ?
@jasonaltig985
Ай бұрын
The fact that this is considered one of the greatest works in Christian apologetics is a fine testimony of how weak the Christian position truly is.
@FishermensCorner
Ай бұрын
or perhaps your foundation is insufficient?
@jasonaltig985
Ай бұрын
@@FishermensCorner my “founding” is twenty five years of being a believer with a BA in theology and minor in NT studies and Biblical languages… Yours?
@FishermensCorner
Ай бұрын
@jasonaltig985 it takes only a couple of seconds to read my profile, but not only have I co-authored theology books for the United States military, I am consistently referenced by professors in theology today. This isn't rocket science, but if it was, I could do that too.
@jasonaltig985
Ай бұрын
@@FishermensCorner I am well aware it isn’t rocket science as science requires evidence which religion does not. I am not certain why you think I would have read your profile on here but since you mentioned it I did. I am not saying Marine Corps chaplains don’t exist but as a former FMF Corpsman for 13.5 years every chaplains assistant I knew was a Navy RP. Not only do I have a BA in theology but not is from Southwestern Adventist University so I am quite versed in Adventist apologetics as well as I used to advocate for them. Please tell me more about how my “foundation is insufficient” though. Let my guess my “heart wasn’t in the right place or open”, or I was never really a believer. Something to that extent right?
@FishermensCorner
Ай бұрын
@jasonaltig985 correct, I dealt with tactical air operations, and was detached for a temporary duty as a chaplain's assistant. My Theology and background was more than sufficient that my skills and talents were leveraged by the Navy to detach me from my normal duties. However, since you wonder how your background is insufficient, CS Lewis points out the natural urge for humans to find God; we now know this as religiosity, and it is genetic.... it has nothing to do with your heart... hilarious self-own. I'm no supporter of Cs lewis, and I make fun of it in my sermon that's uploaded, but to deny his profound reasoning and relational examples suggest there's something deeply, personally off about your perception. Southwestern? Do you mean Southern Adventist University in Tennessee?
@cronosvandust313
3 ай бұрын
The argumentation behind that there is a sapient force behind the moral law is nowhere near objective, for it takes for granted that there is an opposition of matter and mind. Moreover, the very moral law described here seems to follow strictly European morals - we all know we should behave decently and we have an intuiton what it means - though in other cultures our measures of decency wouldn't work. And there Lewis states, that in order to believe that there are better and worse systems of morality, we need to accept the very system of morality we follow as the objective one (which he later equates to the Christian moral system). This is not an objective argument, for this works only for Europeans! Hindu people would say we need to live according to Dharma, and Dharmic moral system is different from European-Christian one. It would still condemn Nazi morality, though - so how do we know which one is closer to the objective moral law? If I find the answer in the following text, I'll add to this comment in a reply.
@cronosvandust313
3 ай бұрын
The argumentation against life force is absolutely unconvincing for me, because Lewis only blames it for wishful thinking, not taking into consideration all the depth of this thought. And as for the example of going forward by taking a step back - this only works when we KNOW what is our purpose, so we know what we should be aiming at. If we're indeed looking for truth, we cannot assume it is this or another in advance. And the argumentation that the being behind the creation of universe is intensely interested in right conduct is worthless, because it is based only on an example from human life, which is inferior to this, so he is surpassing his previous limits here.
@cronosvandust313
3 ай бұрын
Pantheist views do not necessarily take the good-bad distinction seriously. They just confirm that human view is imperfect, thus we shouldn't impose it on the whole world, for the world is something superior to us. The argument based on clear moral distinction between good and evil is intrinsically human, therefore not objective. This does not mean that this distinction is not real or important - nowhere near that! It is crucially important for us, humans; and is very real in our social reality. But if we take humans out from the universe, would the natural laws change? No. Would there be the good-bad distinction? Also no! Hence, the morality is indeed real and very important, but not objective (instead, intersubjective). Moreover, this distinction does not need to be dualistically 0-1, yes or no (this hidden assumption of Lewis is quite annoying). God could be really good, and still be inseparate with the universe, because we do not know everything about the universe. If God's will, or core, or anything that is more important than our material piece of reality, is above our cognitive abilities (which seems to be a plausible assumption, if God is superior to humanity), then why would we be sure that his view on morality is exactly the same as ours, and must be purely good? Why do we impose Him to be perfect in our own terms of perfection? This way the whole talk about pantheism turns out to contain no argument against it, and just show the differences between it and Christianity. Which is a pity, because I find pantheism really convincing and I would truly like to find any plausible challenge to it in the Christianity.
@cronosvandust313
3 ай бұрын
The world is unjust, that's true. But this doesn't mean that the idea of justice must come from outside of it. Justice is not a private idea of yourself (whatever pleases your fancy), but an effect of your human needs to which you must obey. This is yet another of the instincts (social/moral). You're in such violent reaction against this unjustice because it gives you the motivation to oppose it. And this could be the will of imperfect God being the universe itself, couldn't it? If you didn't impose God to be the embodiment of your idea of perfection, you could believe in God that transcends it, but still contains the whole reality with its good and evil (or rather: what we perceive as such) alike, though preferring the former. You do not have to believe in God opposite to the Universe to believe he is good. In short, if you abandon dualistic simplifications, this part of argumentation turns worthless. And that's a pity, especially since the very next paragraph deals with dualistic oversimplification (previously acceding it to fight the opposite stand).
@cronosvandust313
3 ай бұрын
Lewis states that he cannot imagine a world in which free will would exist alongside with no possibility of evil. But it does not prove anything. After all, your imagination is limited to the concepts it operates within. God should not obedient to these concepts. What you see as good or evil is not necessarily the objective good or evil! The free will itself is a very problematic concept and quite a bold assumption, when you consider it. But even leaving this matter apart does not help with theodicea. The argumentation here can be summed up into something like this: there is evil in this world, but God (let me remind, He is supreme goodness) was sure the free will was absolutely worth it. This doesn't help with the bad things that happen to us without human decision, i.e. natural disasters or fatal diseases. The classical Leibnizian argument is as follows: God created the best world possible and it is not up to us to state that He could have done better. And my answer is: well, if so, it means that there is some frame of logic (of possibilities of being) to which He must have obeyed. If this was the best world possible for God to create, and yet we can think of a world that lacks at least all the natural disasters - then there must be some limit to His creative power, so He wouldn't be omnipotent. Of course, you might say "You just can't understand this, it is His problem, not ours - in some very refined sense He did create the best universe and all this evil must have been necessary - leave it for Him, it's His business". But it is our human business that we suffer. Whether God suffers we cannot know for sure, but if He is the only one responsible for the current state of affairs (and if He is the only source of creation and no alien, independent force was involved in the process, all the suffering and evil can be traced back to Him), He indeed cannot be regarded as purely good. As a perfectly good being, how could He have created Angels with free will that are capable of wishing to do evil? Couldn't He have granted them with His consciousness of good and bad? If He did, they wouldn't have rejected His will (even if they could have). How could a perfect being create an imperfect world? Where would that "im-" come from? Lewis doesn't answer that and I never encountered any plausible Christian explanation to this problem.
@michaelbrickley2443
3 ай бұрын
@@cronosvandust313you really need to humble yourself. Yap yap you talk too much. Praying for you as I type.
@danielnotavailable8833
2 ай бұрын
Boooooo
@byronrogers4489
2 ай бұрын
😆
@Fireworxs2012
Ай бұрын
*I love getting my C.S. Lewis on BUT....Over a century after these words were written, the vast majority of the human race seems to be doing just fine having never heard of Mr. Lewis or his God, or the man they call Christ* *If you find comfort and aid getting through your daily life with these words, then "God" bless you. But most of us do just fine holding oursewlves accountable to our actions, learning through our mistakes. Living, loving and struggling through our daily lives, without need, use or want of any of them..Point of fact, much of modern life would benefit without the Christian Church...Doubt my words? Talk to a 13 year old rape victim seeking the relief of abortion in one of the many GOP Red States*
@avoncalling7886
Ай бұрын
The vast majority of the human race seems to be doing just fine, huh? I’m guessing your 13 year old rape victim example would beg to differ. Have you actually seen what’s going on in the world lately? We are about 5 hot seconds from WWIII, to name one small example just how “awesome” things are in the world at the moment. Take Christianity away, you lose almost every charity group as well. Be careful what you ask for….
@GroundBeef1
Ай бұрын
People are so confused nowadays, they even believe they can decide if they are male or female. We're not doing fine at all. Just look at the growing suicide rates and birth rates in the West.
@GroundBeef1
Ай бұрын
Explain the birthrates, suicide rates, gender transition rates (castration of children) and current threat of war.
@FishermensCorner
Ай бұрын
Yes, the fruits of being culturally Christian...
@zuUumi_p
25 күн бұрын
but people are always going to be lost and sin, thus is why Jesus died to save US, people who will always mess up and fail and sin. i can understand your position and perspective, but ultimately things are out of our control and in God's control. you can learn from your mistakes all day, yet still live a empty, unhappy life. even, you can learn from your mistakes and still go through horrible grief, where learning has no place.
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