They miss the point of that she is a hypocrite, she abused a 17 year old boy and paid him off and is going of on her abuser like she didn't do the same thing
@GradenVeEvel
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's always like that in JKN, Joe or the side people would go Blasting their Views onto the video, and Tiff want to give them the correct info and what's the issue, but got shut down by Joe or the others for it.
@akikobae9772
6 жыл бұрын
Well said
@CALLMEMONDAY_
6 жыл бұрын
Yup
@imnotsurewhy
6 жыл бұрын
Context clue of this channel. Just KIDDING News. News not taken too seriously.
@JennyCThree
6 жыл бұрын
Even if he was 18, she called him there as a trusted parental figure, and for work then gave him alcohol. He probably trusted her which is even freaking sadder.
@LoveJbMakeAChange14
6 жыл бұрын
What she did was wrong. Period. He was a minor. BUT because he is a boy, people minimize what this women did, and try to justify it with "fantasies". She was old enough to know that what she was doing is NOT ok. Woman had no morality.
@christopherdorner725
6 жыл бұрын
omegadelta phoenix god damn homie this is why porn should never be illegal
@corynn.l5146
6 жыл бұрын
She is wrong for the underage part. But that doesnt change the fact that the boy only LATER felt disgusted. What that means is he changed his mind after all is said and done when it coulda happened there and then. But i get it he was drunk but that doesnt mean he didnt try to stop anything from happening. Its like that Aziz ansari scandal where he went on a date with the girl and they had sex and all of a sudden later on after all is said and done she only THEN decides to rat him out for sexual harassment because she felt 'uncomfortable' during the date she had all the power to stop the sex from happening but instead she waits for her fear to be done and then says she felt uncomfortable. Something is off here am i wrong?
@iamhimman
6 жыл бұрын
jasmine robledo problem is he’s also not innocent these comments dumb down ppl of teens too much
@darienford860
6 жыл бұрын
It's Hollywood that's why I hardly listen to what they say. They go on a award show to talk about how immoral and bigoted the public is to find out later they are the worst of them all
@the_hyperactive_ritzer4045
6 жыл бұрын
@@corynn.l5146 Argento had more status than him, he could've felt like he couldn't go against her, like how she felt with Wienstien
@YossGDaddict
6 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I forget how stupid JK crews can be.
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
Consent doesn't equal comfortable, so many people throw around the word consent and than take it back because they didn't like it afterwards. Consent is you willingly agreeing to have sex (in this case) if you regret it that doesn't mean consent is gone, it's not a guarentee that you'll like it. So if you give consent and don't like how you feel afterward than talk about it but don't be making false accusations EDIT: this consent doesn't apply to the article its about consent and adults. I've made a separate comment for the article.
@Cuggaconroyfan30001
6 жыл бұрын
Blackfeather 22 it’s your job to say no
@mathiyanz
6 жыл бұрын
@Blackfeather what the fuck are you on about? So women can accuse men of rape and ruin their lives forever just because they "felt pressure" and don't practice good decision making?
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
@Blackfeather 22 read my other comment
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
@@roddur1000 read my other comment this comment is towards consent adults
@jasmine1dtw
6 жыл бұрын
The alcohol already eliminates the ability to give consent. Whether he chose to drink it or was forced to is a different question but because he did drink, there's no consent
@ellevenn0132
6 жыл бұрын
“In hypocrite news,” y’all know this is gonna be good 😂
@raginggamer1342
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty shocked how they literally think every teen guy is a walking dick.
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
@RantCasey19 how they the hypocrites? did you even watch the vid??
@christopherdorner725
6 жыл бұрын
RagingGamer it was true for me lol
@jasadindu502
6 жыл бұрын
This should be their new title. It suits them perfectly.
@ekahgonzales7627
6 жыл бұрын
This episode made me really sad. Didn’t think the guys would be saying shit like that to a raped victim. “Well he should be thankful the girls hot.” “Then why didn’t he leave he probably wanted it.” This is why male rape victims are not taken seriously. :(
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@MDubleU
6 жыл бұрын
A while ago they made and deleted a video about a man who was raped by some women at gun point and all the guys were laughing at him and saying how lucky he was. Sad they ain't changed since then
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
@@MDubleU How about the deleted video where Bart asked what's wrong with child porn?
@ekahgonzales7627
6 жыл бұрын
M W and to think Bart has a baby boy. :(
@fredx239
6 жыл бұрын
Tomaso Cava The child porn one he was slightly joking, but Bart and David are two people who grew up with some weird back story and in return make very polar responses to what most people including the JK girls would ever say or think. Also that was like 2-3 years ago I'm pretty sure if he was serious he would have changed by now, especially after having a kid, which makes parents more 'woke' if you see it that way.
@ren4972
6 жыл бұрын
I agree with Joe’s statements. He was 17 and went through with it BUT I think he and the rest forgot that he was given alcohol which changes the story completely.
@ln14gamer24
6 жыл бұрын
Ren Ren I agree with joe too but it’s not so much the alcohol that has me conflicted it’s the fact he claimed she pushed him onto the bed so he could have felt trapped.
@ren4972
6 жыл бұрын
Ln14Gamer Yeah I can see that happening. Might have been scared if he said no to her, she could have hurt him or something.
@Ambi1021
6 жыл бұрын
Also, he could have wanted to tell her no and stop but because she’s much older and more powerful (industry wise) he couldn’t. Just like the women.
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
depends on how much alcohol and what effect he has, for me all i get is really hard to control my body properly after 20 shots and then get stuck by the toilet bowl for an hour, also from the video it sounded like they thought that the guy knew the woman a lot and was like a mother to her but I doubt that because it sounded like the woman actually hadn't met the guy for a very long time and just knew him from that movie ages ago maybe
@Lanbei
6 жыл бұрын
Audrey Spring I agree, and you wouldn't be a leading woman in the metoo movement without the power to influence people.
@JSHueurgh
6 жыл бұрын
If the roles were reversed then it'd be a totally different conversation.
@kikko422
6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Geo and Tiff are at least trying to bring some sanity in the conversation. Rape is rape.
@tierk4328
6 жыл бұрын
wait a second, how do they know if the kid even had a choice to leave. Tiff said herself that the kid couldn’t drive. He had no choice but to stay with her.
@incredableme63
6 жыл бұрын
He had functioning legs didn't he?
@aidvn5583
6 жыл бұрын
could of walked out and call his relative to pick him up.
@sgray7391
6 жыл бұрын
@@VarunSharmaBlog what if she had a gun threatening here
@sgray7391
6 жыл бұрын
@@aidvn5583 what if she had a gun threatening here
@sgray7391
6 жыл бұрын
@@VarunSharmaBlog proof guns do nothing we need to ban all guns
@LuchiaxXx
6 жыл бұрын
The fact alcohol was mentioned changes the story completely. Shit like this is why people don't take the MeToo movement seriously even though there are many who are raped and taken advantaged of. I wish JK would just stop talking about stuff like this because it's alarming to hear their ignorant perspective "he's a boy- must have enjoyed it" just because they claim they would've at the time. This is why no one takes male victims seriously and why they have a high suicide rate. And in return, women like this gives others the ammo to trivialize and dismiss the MeToo movement despite being such a crucial movement. Throw her in jail if it's true.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Come on. You defend their hypocrisy all the time. What's different now?
@LuchiaxXx
6 жыл бұрын
what are you even talking about??? No I haven't???? And I barely ever comment on their videos...what are you on about??
@Jinchuricutie
6 жыл бұрын
Why can’t anyone let tiff finish 🙃🙃🙃 so much interruption
@christopherdorner725
6 жыл бұрын
Celeste Camacho that’s the point of the channel
@TerasakaLiliane
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel like it’s gotten worse
@3runnerBL3X
6 жыл бұрын
The day that tiff can finish the story with no interruption is when pigs fly :D
@Chitownbullz21
6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to JK, you get used to seeing that lol
@chuckie102883
6 жыл бұрын
The guys are so hypocritical it’s frustrating to watch. If this were a 40 yr old man abusing his position of power with a 16 yr old girl i doubt they’d be saying it’s fine there was no abuse. The amount of IGNORANCE is mind boggling.
@vianhoho19
6 жыл бұрын
You can expect the EXACT SAME comments every single time a topic that's about consent and rape is being talked about. I feel you, it's very frustrating. That's why I'd rather skip videos like this for the sake of my own sanity 😂
@e.g.o6860
6 жыл бұрын
UniquelyMade they didn’t say it was fine. Are you stupid? They were saying yes it is wrong and illegal but the motives behind the kid are suspicious. LISTEN
@kari548
6 жыл бұрын
They're telling it from a their perspective XD
@spidezt
6 жыл бұрын
In this case the guy was 17, not 16 which is a big difference. And joe said himself that if the sexes were switched around, he would’ve stayed with the same argument.
@chuckie102883
6 жыл бұрын
Tony 17 is still underage, the fuck is wrong with you fools
@april00026000
6 жыл бұрын
The JK guys are just so hypocritical and aggravating sometimes
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
All the time
@badd2049
6 жыл бұрын
Double standard alert it doesn't really matter if he wanted it or if he enjoyed it he's still underaged I'm sure some underage girls would like to sleep with older men still doesn't make it right
@mj_2484
6 жыл бұрын
Gosh I feel for Tiffany trying to explain how fucked this situation was and getting ignored
@loveisanopendoor5745
6 жыл бұрын
11:54 Joe : “He was fully aware” He was given alcohol. Wtf.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@shafatzahid9315
5 жыл бұрын
Couldve rejected the alcohol dont be ignorant
@ItsJoeTime0110
5 жыл бұрын
when I'm drunk it doesnt make me fuck. if im already into her the alcohol just gives me a love push to close.
@adiahtaylor7173
6 жыл бұрын
The fact that he was given alcohol changes everything. It' bad enough that he was only 17 years old, but the way she took advantage of him makes her no better than the man she accused. Getting someone drunk in order to let their guard down so they are more likely to consent to you is still wrong.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
You know this bothers me because not every guy thinks that way, the guys around here won't date until their 16. So 12 in my opinion is too young this woman gave him alcohol. And toke advantage of him. I'm pretty disgusted. Edit: guy was 17, and still didn't like it what do you not get about it? Not every guy thinks the same.
@vsaturated
6 жыл бұрын
I also agree
@henryhunch1724
6 жыл бұрын
WYNOLLO TV I disagree
@RoarofdalioN
6 жыл бұрын
are Amish? "guys around here"
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
@@henryhunch1724 care to explain?
@groundtofu4238
6 жыл бұрын
WYNOLLO TV you’re right not every guy thinks that way but if he didn’t like it he would have immediately felt uncomfortable stopped or if he couldn’t or was scared would have immediately went public after(or later if he was still scared) but he not only did the deed, he ate lunch and just stayed quiet because the money she was willing to offer clearly was enough to fix the problem. Not all guys think that way but he would not have reacted that way if he didn’t.
@vsaturated
6 жыл бұрын
Guy's perspective is dumbasf. The law is the law . I know multiple guys that would not be okay with an older woman doing that to them . It was statutory rape and that's that .
@SkiniNinja
6 жыл бұрын
But that's you, not all guys who would and there are many who would and that is what there trying to talk about. I can see your side so try to see there's where they're trying to see if this kid tried to do that for financial gain or if he was seriously mentally hurt afterwards.
@BH-ix7nq
6 жыл бұрын
@decembrist finally someone with some common sense🙌🙌🙌
@msmitsumitsuko
6 жыл бұрын
I understand the reasoning in this case, but he is still 17. Also, just because you guys have not been molested or raped - and can still think "oh i wished some older hot woman had sex with me when i was a teen"... Well, that does not mean that people who actually got raped think like that just because they are a guy.
@pinkbella901
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the alcohol she allegedly gave him might have been why he had a delayed reaction?
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@mariag7322
6 жыл бұрын
really disappointed with some of the things said in this video. thumbs down
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Same for me
@bizzybee1
6 жыл бұрын
this sounds like a yelp review "very dissapointed with the lack of flavor in the salad, 1 star"
@Nerdytrace23
6 жыл бұрын
Maria G same :(
@Sartora
6 жыл бұрын
For joes example about the peer pressure for drugs, that isnt the same as this. One is an adult that understands the world, you said you were both minors. You wouldn't know any better and are less mature. If it was an adult convincing a minor to try crack its a whole different story.
@JennyCThree
6 жыл бұрын
And she even tricked him into coming there in the first place. She didn't invite him over for sex she invited him as his boss and as a parental figure who knew him as a child (with all the mom tweets).
@Ddevil24
6 жыл бұрын
Im getting triggered left amd right. He technically isn't fully aware cuz he got fed alcohol
@kingdarious9244
6 жыл бұрын
Did she force him to drink it?
@kraio-sfu
6 жыл бұрын
Cry
@kraio-sfu
6 жыл бұрын
King Darious There’s a thing called coercion. Look it up.
@maxotyi
6 жыл бұрын
@@kingdarious9244 doesn't matter, rape by law. He was under the age of consent.
@Ddevil24
6 жыл бұрын
maxotyi true if the gender was switch everyone be like raped "she is young she cant consent blah blah"
@truthfinderjohn
6 жыл бұрын
One of the things Tiffany forgot to mention is that the age of consent law in California is 18 I believe. That's why is considered sexual assault. If it was in Alabama he would be okay because the age of consent is 16.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Is it legal to give alcohol to kids in the liberal shithole that California is?
@truthfinderjohn
6 жыл бұрын
@@tomasocava2086 no but they get it somehow anyway lol
@JennyCThree
6 жыл бұрын
The age of consent is 16 where I live. Adults who trick teenagers who think they are coming to work then get them drunk and have sex with them are still creeps who are abusing their naivety (especially since he seemed to trust her like family). Its not like she's his peer or something.
@huntercollins2471
6 жыл бұрын
Does not matter. He was a child she should not have done it. Please stop comparing your fantasy to real life. People react differently to things. Support this man for his bravery for coming forward
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
17 and 2 months is not far from 18... many places have consent at 16 or lower and different people mature at different ages
@keyanasmith131
5 жыл бұрын
*D R U N K consent is not C O N S E N T*
@alexisgonzales4524
6 жыл бұрын
Watch Philip DeFranco explain this situation, I love jk but he does it way better. This is a pretty serious situation and Philip lays down all the facts
@nice7846
6 жыл бұрын
When you’re 12-10 You think you want something like that but when it actually happened you’re scared and you don’t know what to do I have close friends that have had stuff like that happen to them and they say it is very trumatic
@iamhimman
6 жыл бұрын
now roles reversed. yes everyone would kill the guy but as much as we dislike it a FEMALE is much more different than a males mind from hormones to strength to many other things
@adrianmontoya6730
6 жыл бұрын
Your friend is wack.
@NinaR478
6 жыл бұрын
aly penn uh no not months, he had just turned 17. Anyways, that shot is still disgusting. A 20 year difference in any sexual relationship, especially one with a minor is sick.
@chrisho1499
6 жыл бұрын
Consent and regret are two complete different things, so don't mix it up folks !
@RedrumZombies
6 жыл бұрын
He grew up with her in his life......
@skylandersgiants5504
5 жыл бұрын
Chris Ho he was drunk and a minor
@aquarius1507
6 жыл бұрын
The guys are making dismissive statements. Joe's example about two minors smoking Crack doesn't even apply to a 37 year old woman raping a 17 year old boy. They always add their own "logic and reasoning" and expect everyone else to agree. Absolutely ridiculous. Sometimes the jokes are cheeky but this episode's commentary is disgusting.
@markstriker925
6 жыл бұрын
2:31 jk guys do not speak for all men
@waybig011
6 жыл бұрын
Denial
@jayduby5330
6 жыл бұрын
This white knight act doesn't get you laid. Stop perpetuating this feminism bs, being creeps is ingrained in our DNA. Look at gay guys and their sexual objectification of their partners.
@ChronicF
6 жыл бұрын
@@jayduby5330 Wait, I'm confused. What white knight act are you referring to?
@corynn.l5146
6 жыл бұрын
No but they do speak for most guys
@rossmacben
6 жыл бұрын
Stop lying
@loveisanopendoor5745
6 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised on how ignorant the guys are in this video. They need to ignore their own perspective and stop putting every single boy in a bubble. She intoxicated him and used her power as a mum role model to take over him. Point is, if the boy didn’t like it, quit trying to convince him that he did.
@Allelujah19
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much MeToo movement is a complete lie. I swear JK guys think this is "OK." Come on, this is still wrong on so many level's.
@lookhowshegobbledthat
6 жыл бұрын
That-Gundam-Guy The Me Too movement is a lie? So this guy is lying too?
@downbeatxxtwo2348
6 жыл бұрын
Isn't Geo is her 30's, calling the women a older lady.
@travis8592
6 жыл бұрын
And its Geo
@knightbrian92
6 жыл бұрын
She's like 35 or 36 I think.
@downbeatxxtwo2348
6 жыл бұрын
@@travis8592 okay I'll edit it. 🖖😎
@eclairia404
6 жыл бұрын
She said older lady cause she's comparing the age with a 17 year old I guess
@downbeatxxtwo2348
6 жыл бұрын
@@eclairia404 Older women should have been used in that case, it would have sounded nicer.
@HaHa-oh3fr
6 жыл бұрын
"I dont see the problem" not cool man not cool, this ep was frustrating to listen too
@alexsanchez1532
6 жыл бұрын
Man I love you guys but you completely missed the point that whether it sounded "great" to you or not...the kid did not consent to any of this. Just because he is 17 and a straight boy does not mean it would please him to have sex with an older woman.
@iamhimman
6 жыл бұрын
Geo: you’re comparing your mindset to his Also geo : what I think is right
@HeShoeTooBig
6 жыл бұрын
She gave alcohol to a 17 year old and then had sex with him. The crime has been commited. It doesn't matter what happens afterwards. She's a hypocrite. The JK crew really missed the mark on this even more than usual.
@raymond-reviews
6 жыл бұрын
Just a reminder it’s still illegal to give a minor alcohol and to have sex with a minor.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but jk hypocrisy is legal
@raymond-reviews
6 жыл бұрын
Tomaso Cava Ain’t that the truth.
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
People fail to understand that even if the age of consent is 16 they still come with limitations.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
@@oldfashiondragon There's no limitation when you get them drunk. It's called rape.
@sypherx9393
6 жыл бұрын
Not my proudest jerk moment. Sorry Geo.
@Subscribers-it8xp
6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂💀
@valkiron11
6 жыл бұрын
He means boobs, Damanteg Singh. Boobs.
@ICavalcadeI
6 жыл бұрын
ditto that, my brother.
@jayduby5330
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry? I assume she'll be flattered.
@evelynecstasy
6 жыл бұрын
Ew
@BuccLife
6 жыл бұрын
He had a great time but just regrets it and feels dirty. Don't see how he's losing thousands a year from such a traumatic regret.
@petervasz3739
6 жыл бұрын
If it was a woman who was raped they wouldn't have the same energy. No wonder they're fading they're comedy is cowardice.
@Holborovv
6 жыл бұрын
What they forgot was he was over there to talk about a role in a film, it's the same as the weinstien guy. The kid probably thought if he didn't theres a good chance that he wouldn't get the part.
@Sartora
6 жыл бұрын
A moment will happen when a guest will come on who either went through or close friend/family went through and they wont be making jokes then. Will be interesting though.
@Themusiclover1322
6 жыл бұрын
wee een what episode did he say that in
@jenny4994
6 жыл бұрын
Honestly if I was a KZitemr and I went on their show I would've just walked tf out. My best friend is a rape victim and I've had to talk him out of suicide countless of times because people have told him the exact same think the jk guys said in this video.
@jenny4994
6 жыл бұрын
Like I would've lost my shit out of anger and disappointment in them and then I'd leave and never talk to them again. This shit ain't fucking funny
@e.g.o6860
6 жыл бұрын
From a legal and moral standpoint it’s wrong, yes. But the guys are right. It’s suspicious
@e.g.o6860
6 жыл бұрын
Lo Jabb you missed the part where he got head and HAD DINNER AND THEN LEFT AND THEN QUESTIONED IT AND THEN GOT PAID OFF
@JoseRamerMegio
6 жыл бұрын
Lol. women who got rape can reach orgasm doesn't mean they enjoyed it and they are not being raped. This is so one sided and lacks empathy.
@avilik13
6 жыл бұрын
Being an emancipated teen doesn't mean all laws apply to you if you're still underage.
@_Maxten
6 жыл бұрын
heres the weird thing about claiming rape. It wasn't assault because he was ok with it at first, but you feel like shit afterwords and then its bad?
@michelle7455
6 жыл бұрын
Maximillian sometimes you don’t know how messed up the situation you were in was until you’re not there anymore.
@_Maxten
6 жыл бұрын
+Zip Zoop he didn't have to do what he did. he made that decision. if he regrets his decision then that is his fault
@boogerboy2420
6 жыл бұрын
I'm Honestly am crying. Not out of laughter, but out of sadness. How the JK news crew reacted to this story was just appalling and horrendous. If this was a 17 year old girl raped a 37 year old man, that she looked up to as a father figure, than their mood and mindset would be 100% different.
@Jakeski87
6 жыл бұрын
Don't be naive. Certainly we understand the differences boys and girls have, especially in the teenage years. The sexs think differently as does everyone have their own unique perspective. It just so happens that a lot of teenage males are horny to the point it is cliché. They gave a opinion. BTW...what is "like a mom"? Who in the world can replace/act just like their mom? Take care...maybe, but the similarities stop there.
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
women and men are not the same though, biologocal differences and a large double standart. any guy in his position would have loved it, he knew what he was doing, he could have refused or left, he didnt seem to regret ot after (if he did actualy regret it its not rape, selling something and the saying the person stole it just because u regret selling it doeant work) he probably just wants the money
@Jakeski87
6 жыл бұрын
exactly. They, at most, sipped a glass of wine, drank a beer, or something else real light. Remember because the family member that dropped him off was coming back. I'm highly doubting a 17 YO got buzzed that quick with family nearby to become inebriated. So I think there is a hidden motive here.
@boogerboy2420
6 жыл бұрын
@@Jakeski87 You're sick. You know that right?
@boogerboy2420
6 жыл бұрын
@@RolandTechnicalDesigner God you're disgusting. I literally can't believe you are supporting a woman rapist ?
@mariopowerdude276
6 жыл бұрын
JK I love u guys but... this ain't it. ... y'all forgetting he was given so much alcohol... he wasn't "fully aware"...
@Sartora
6 жыл бұрын
Theres loads of things in life that you would "die" for. Then when you get them or experience it, it's either horrible or underwhelming.
@davidzielinski5484
6 жыл бұрын
Why are they acting like 17 is "ew disgusting" but 18 is totally fine great, 16 is the age of consent for most of the world and in most states in the U.S.
@davidzielinski5484
6 жыл бұрын
@@MarketLiberal where did you get that from? Lol
@davidzielinski5484
6 жыл бұрын
@@MarketLiberal I'm not though. I just said they shouldn't act like there's a huge difference between 17 and 18. And that most us states have the age of consent at 16. I'm polish, our age of consent is 15, so what? In some countries it's 14 in some it's 16.
@Enrique-peralta
6 жыл бұрын
These weird old act like 18 and 25 dating this strange also
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Except when you do something illegal to a minor, like alcohol, that is considered a mind altering drug.
@EsotericTherapy
6 жыл бұрын
Hey Libertarian Capitalist, don't insult my fucking country you arrogant fucking Yank... Australia: age of consent 16 - it's not a serving suggestion for sex, it's the point before which the law needs to step in. 16/17 may be a bit dodgy, as we say here, but there's a difference between dodgy and illegal.
@stevenzheng8037
6 жыл бұрын
in case anyone’s reading comments hello :)
@mayramalpica
6 жыл бұрын
Steven Zheng hello
@christinecoghlan2482
6 жыл бұрын
Heya
@dinathe_weirdo2467
6 жыл бұрын
I knew a guy in school named Steven Zheng, he didn’t talk to me very much 😂😂😂
@alang1514
6 жыл бұрын
hello
@totalyspy1
6 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@violetsoul9113
5 жыл бұрын
Left: Chose your fighter Forward: Choose your referee Right: Chose your passerby
@JuQui228
6 жыл бұрын
Did y’all show the know where he literally wrote after they had sex and lunch how much he loved her and how happy he was they “met” again. His career takes because he’s blah looking and this is extortion. I wouldn’t be surprised if the people that dug this up are the same ones that dug up the James Gunn shit. Also he told her that she was his sexual fantasy since he was 12.
@sixtallballer
6 жыл бұрын
NIGGA WHAT. link me these receipts.
@calciousfuckmyname5305
6 жыл бұрын
Laws have to be enforced.
@MarianaMartinez-sx8ks
6 жыл бұрын
It doesn't matter dude. He was still a minor so she in trouble anyway even with consent.
@Blueissuperior
6 жыл бұрын
Well it isn't the same people so well done. He's released a statement read it.
@dre27321
6 жыл бұрын
no one in the comments section or the video is talking about the law, this is about right or wrong in a moral sense
@nidagrey5739
6 жыл бұрын
Two problems: he was under the influence of alcohol so he couldn’t give fully informed consent and 2: there’s a power imbalance which could have made him hesitant to tell her to stop. Either way, it’s wrong. If he was sober maybe it could have been different but either way she took advantage of him. That’s what I think anyway
@nidagrey5739
6 жыл бұрын
Lo Jabb cheers 😋
@MOOMOO2728
6 жыл бұрын
Tiff lost them so early in the video lol
@ktmcgoogle7927
6 жыл бұрын
Isn't 17 the age of consent? Where I live it is and I don't see how that is sexual assault If he didn't verbally say no.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
That doesn't matter as long as she got him drunk. Just imagine if a 37 old man did this to a 17 girl.
@ashleighcalloway886
6 жыл бұрын
In some states it is like in Illinois 17 is legal
@kikko422
6 жыл бұрын
Can Bart and Joe fucking stop romanticising a teenager being raped? MeToo is trying to get men establish dialogue about sexual assault and y'all aren't helping.
@omarhernandez361
6 жыл бұрын
14:08- 14:50 lol those would be the best detectives
@carlytto25
6 жыл бұрын
Tiffany left out the info on the text messages between her and a friend talking about how she had a relationship at 17 with a 33 yr old in Italy for years. And how if she loses her job over this that she'll move to Africa or Amazon where they don't care about age differences like most of America
@RedrumZombies
6 жыл бұрын
You want Taika to be in the same situation? To be drugged by someone he has looked up to for most of his life, and raped at 17? Oh wait you don't think men can be raped.......
@Domokhunie
6 жыл бұрын
I think the JK guys really need to realise that although some boys may have a fantasy like that, men can be rape victims too. And its not because they are gay or whatever reason you make up, its the fact that consent is important between ANYONE
@ohhhh
6 жыл бұрын
Y'all keep forgetting forgetting that he was under the influence
@MarpenGaming
6 жыл бұрын
I knew they had some messed-up childhoods, but to want an older woman to take advantage you at 12 13 14 even like 15 years old is just disgusting. I didn't even know what any of that kind of stuff was until I was like 15 or 16.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Both Bart and Joe grew up without a father. They have no decency, no discipline, no authority and no honor.
@kaldoranaidoo9716
6 жыл бұрын
Can we stop acting like men getting raped isnt serious. What the guys are saying is actually disgusting
@bluedreamkush2392
6 жыл бұрын
Look I understand how bad this is but cmon, 10 months from being 18? Why are people so convinced that in 10 months this 17 years old will be a sophisticated, well mannered, intellectual.
@alextaylor6755
6 жыл бұрын
if it was a older man and a 17 year old of girl
@hiitskennedyyyy
6 жыл бұрын
i really hope they're joking. bashing an underage boy for not enjoying sex with someone 20 years older than him is a bit weird
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
thats not what they are doing... from the very small amount of info they got they believe that the guy probably enjoyed it and just had regreats afterwards which is nothing unique or a big deal idk
@957kakashi
6 жыл бұрын
“Even better” 😂😂😂😂 god dammit joe
@RedrumZombies
6 жыл бұрын
9:15 David........ Imagine it's the closest non-parent person to you that is somewhat like a parent..... That you've known for the majority of your life!
@itsJoonsung
6 жыл бұрын
1. Joe's right, you can't go through with something willingy then attack someone after the fact because in hindsight, it made you uncomfortable. 2. 17 vs 18 is nothing, Tiff. The whole idea of 18 being a legal adult is just a social construct anyways. I've met plenty of mature people under 18 and plenty of immature people over 18 so that doesn't mean shit.
@pip760
6 жыл бұрын
ItsJoonsung but he didn’t give consent. He was given alcohol so it wasn’t willingly
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
we dont know the whole story, how much alcohol, what effect it has on him, how pushy was the woman, was there alternative motives and much more...
@chuckie102883
6 жыл бұрын
ItsJoonsung you’re forgetting that she gave him alcohol, we don’t know how drunk he was when she slept with him. Would you honestly be saying the same thing if it were a 37yr old man sleeping with a 17 yr old girl who saw him as a father figure and trusted him? That’s called abuse of power and statutory rape. Amazes me how little people understand about the word CONSENT.
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
we dont know the details or the 80% of the story and it would be different if roles were reversed because women and men are very different biologically
@itsJoonsung
6 жыл бұрын
Thats true, we dont know how much alcohol. I guess assuming he still had some conscience, i think its unfair for someone to go back and say it made him uncomfortable after having done it. If he was drunk and unable to make decisions for himself, yeah its hella fucked up
@robyn8879
6 жыл бұрын
Usually love Jk vids, but this one really pissed me off. 🙄 All of the guys in this episode making excuses for what she did and not letting Tiff or Geo speak DAMN
@jasadindu502
6 жыл бұрын
Yup
@sabrinasafitri713
6 жыл бұрын
same, i love the jk guys, but the things they said in this video were so fucking twisted and just gross. never felt more disappointed in them lmfao
@Narukamiiii
6 жыл бұрын
I was on the kid's side until Tiff added the last part, i'm sorry but feeling regret after having sex with someone doesn't make it rape, not consenting to the sex makes it rape..
@erin.19
6 жыл бұрын
some of you guys seem to have this skewed idea that men can't be raped, because they should enjoy it. it's pretty disgusting actually, especially considering this is a case of statutory rape, and he was literally unable to give consent because he was a child. i love you guys, but this was just really disappointing, and frankly hard to watch
@soco1260
6 жыл бұрын
Not defining her but she Italian where the legal consent age is 14 and the legal drinking age is 16
@FTA.2703
6 жыл бұрын
hakeen corbett This happened in America not Italy bro. The law is the law
@Azuwat
6 жыл бұрын
When i was younger i had thoughts about having a relationship with older women from schooling age all the way up to my 30s. But when I reached 40, all those thoughts stop. I can see that its wrong. Its taking advantage of a minor according to law. I started feeling this when i see men and women in their 30s and 40s (my age group now) and they have teenage lovers. Its weird and its wrong. I didnt see the team discuss this angle: what if one of them have a teenage lover would it be weird and wrong...
@Blueissuperior
6 жыл бұрын
I really don't get why jk guys don't understand a guy getting raped, a 37 year old woman giving alcohol to a 17 yo and having sex with him is fucked and he can not want it.
@ummkhattab6181
6 жыл бұрын
WAIT! Y did david say i thought the women was a BLACK women trying to be fancy. He finds out he's white and he's like "nevermind"
@Younggggx
6 жыл бұрын
6:28 Why did no one react to this hahahaha
@rorominaj
6 жыл бұрын
Even better... lmaoo
@blueflameSM
6 жыл бұрын
What I think Joe is getting at is this, Regret does NOT equal consent. This guy is 17, and by 17 kids (male or female) should know more than enough that they have a right to their body. This really reminds me of the Aziz situation, the woman REGRET what happened and she went through with it anyways. Gray area in the story, but I see where the guys are coming from. In short, he went through with it and now regrets it. Regret doesn't get you into the MeToo movement
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
amen
@SnowAnayathatweirdgirl
6 жыл бұрын
Joe made the most sense here. He actually brought a lot of insight. Regretting something doesn't make is rape, but at the same time I can't assume the guy's mental state at the time. I'm all for equal punishment for the same crime. While I say that I do agree with Joe's statement. It's just logical.
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
@@SnowAnayathatweirdgirl Except she gave him alcohol. Joe is hypocrite. It's illegal to give alcohol to minors, it's illegal to drug them. That's what she did.
@JennyCThree
6 жыл бұрын
If she cared about obtaining consent maybe she shouldn't have tricked him into coming to work as his boss, treated him like her son and gotten him drunk.
@fayt43
6 жыл бұрын
I’m female and I agree with the men’s point of view here. As for the money: he was a child actor, statistically child actors have a tough time transitioning to an adult career, which most likely accounts for the drop in salary. I believe women are doing this too. It’s modern day McCarthyism. Just because you regret a sexual experience, doesn’t mean it was abuse or harassment.
@sjackson7315
6 жыл бұрын
I DONT CARE. If you consented and liked it all the way through and said nothing, that’s not rape. You felt bad afterwards. You still have given consent. Guy or girl. Morning after regret does not negate consent. Now where the issue may come in is the serving of alcohol to a minor. She should be charged/ticketed for that, whatever. But if he was fully aware of his actions? Fuck that.
@edelgardvonhresvelg8483
6 жыл бұрын
Look up statutory rape and California's age of consent. She still broke the law.
@nickmessick5471
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure geo doesn't have a face anymore
@synchronic7827
6 жыл бұрын
Why can't i skip 2 minute ads ? Is it because i don't have premium ?
@fannculo5680
6 жыл бұрын
Nope. It's because jk is greedy
@knightmarechimp
6 жыл бұрын
We can debate the whole 'assault' thing for hours. My biggest problem is her hypocrisy, being a leading figure in the 'MeToo' movement.
@xhelen2589
6 жыл бұрын
Tbh this was kinda heartbreaking because she knows how it feels to be violated yet she violated someone else. 😔
@truthfinderjohn
6 жыл бұрын
I feel like if you do something like have sex with someone and then a day later you regret it that just on you you just made a bad choice. And also I agree with Joe. I honestly believe there is an ulterior motive why he is saying something now when there is more money involved.
@edelgardvonhresvelg8483
6 жыл бұрын
1. She gave him alcohol. 2. He was still a minor. Either way she still broke the law. The law > your thoughts
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Everything would be different if this would've happened to a girl, you fukin hypocrite.
@SmokenHash
6 жыл бұрын
17 is the legal age of sexual consent in a lot of places. Including where I live, Texas. As far as I'm concerned, it was consensual, whether he regretted it later or not. It's a lesson for him to learn, not to just put blame on other people. I would say the same if he was a girl.
@SmokenHash
6 жыл бұрын
People need to realize, if you don't say no, the other person has no clue what you're thinking, so going through with sex without saying no, makes it consensual. Claiming rape later isn't fair to the other person at all, criminalizing them and giving them guilt for your inability to make good decisions for yourself. It's so much easier to just say "sorry, I regret what happened, and I don't want to do it again."
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
Really? I'm sure it's illegal as long as you drugged him, with alcohol for example.
@oldfashiondragon
6 жыл бұрын
@@SmokenHash I don't think you understand that not everyone can say no or even speak when they're intoxicated. Also in California age of consent is 18. Its illegal. Theres also a huge difference between two people being intoxicated and one person being more sober than the other. If you're sober hsve sex than regret than i understand your point but in this case. All signs dont look good for her.
@SmokenHash
6 жыл бұрын
WYNOLLO TV Like Joe said, I'm going more off how everything was stated. Didn't seem like he really had a problem with anything until much later, even after the alcohol had worn off. It just seems more he's using the law to his advantage. This is my opinion though, you don't have to agree.
@SmokenHash
6 жыл бұрын
WYNOLLO TV As well, if it was someone that he really considered that close to him, taking legal action for a one time mistake is still pretty harsh. She's not actually his mom, and she could have easily just misread the situation. We don't know the whole story, but he didn't claim to feel pressured or over intoxicated. People are assuming he was blackout drunk or something. Yes, I understand that legally with any alcohol you can't give consent, and legally he's under the age of consent, but the story as a whole seems more like he's just using those details to his advantage.
@jenny4994
6 жыл бұрын
What the men said in this video literally gave me a panic attack. I'm not a boy and I've never been raped but my best friend is a boy and a rape victim, several times I've had to talk him out of suicide because people have told him the exact same things the jk guys said in this video. I can't watch jk anymore after this, they crossed the fucking line.
@052367
6 жыл бұрын
Funniest line, Joe”even better” LOL
@shineeshawols5773
6 жыл бұрын
I watched philip defranco cover this
@Leafstarshine
6 жыл бұрын
He did
@Trapinnewyork44
6 жыл бұрын
He's a closet racist
@imadinosaur49
6 жыл бұрын
your opinion is not the opinion of all men, shut up bart, joe, and david
@RolandTechnicalDesigner
6 жыл бұрын
it is the opinion of 90%+ of men though, they said he probably wanted it and that most men would want it not all
@tomasocava2086
6 жыл бұрын
@@RolandTechnicalDesigner Not when you get them drunk. It's called rape.
@BH-ix7nq
6 жыл бұрын
These guys know what's up. I agree with them, but i also love the fact that this makes her a fucking hypocrite 😂
@skylandersgiants5504
5 жыл бұрын
Defending this woman was wrong on so many levels. First he’s under the age of consent. Second he’s under the influence of alcohol, you legally can’t consent while drunk and it sounded like she was trying to get him drunk Third she abused her position of power over him Fourth the reason he didn’t like it after lunch is because the lunch is what sobered him up Fifth she paid him off
@iDealMedley
6 жыл бұрын
This is obvious extortion, his career going downhill and he need a quick buck.
@jasadindu502
6 жыл бұрын
It's rape when you get minors drunk to have sex with them.
@AfroGaz71
6 жыл бұрын
You do realise this was statutory rape. Plus she supplied alchohol to a minor to coerce him. Weinstein used similar tactics with her. What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.
@jmoney1165
6 жыл бұрын
Blackpink in your area
@Dashtyme
6 жыл бұрын
I m a bad girl I know I am
@Dashtyme
6 жыл бұрын
And I'm so hot i need a fan
@natimolina365
6 жыл бұрын
Click clack badabing badaboom
@StrykerGamingOfficial
6 жыл бұрын
Nah fuck that, black pink is the revolution
@thesteadfastduelist6258
6 жыл бұрын
*She's a hypocrite. I hope that Karma gives her just rewards.*
@angelaw2372
6 жыл бұрын
So, why did the woman pay him off to keep him shut up?
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