5:49 "Raggy, why is the rever 6 rice not stronger?" "Because it's capped, Scoob."
@TeaSunny
4 жыл бұрын
I've got 3000+ hunts on bowguns and had *no idea* elemental ammo worked like this, thank you so much for making this video, info on element was so confusing and I can finally wrap my head around it.
@StriderHoang
4 жыл бұрын
“I’m gonna leave a comment asking about aug-“ “Oh, the classic MonHun mysterious documentation.”
@fumirokugen576
4 жыл бұрын
5:48 i had never heard you made this noise before and it's hilarious
@solomon9655
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gaijin, there’s something almost therapeutic about your Monster Hunter videos. Been here since 4U 🤟
@chironthecuddley6144
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've been around since before he started using a mic for his guides. He's come a long way since then.
@JamesNintendoTurd
4 жыл бұрын
One correction: Bowguns are a special case when it comes to the elemental cap. By default, the cap is x1.57, and Safi'jiiva's set raises this to x1.8 for 3pc and x2.35 for 5pc respectively. As for Augments, they raise the base element of the shots by 2/3/4/6 respectively, which means the cap goes up as well.
@scarletvrgames568
4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is rather important, yet has only been noticed (or at least liked) by 2 people. :/
@TheDaemonDD
4 жыл бұрын
It was great to see the real numbers at work here. Thank you! I swear, the game should have this stuff as advanced optional tutorials or something.
@KevinSkye1
4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, it's really nice to see a math video from a MH YT Channel that isn't MHMG. Great work.
@KyonV13
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the numbers here are far more tangible. Just simply being told a shot is 8% phys 22% elem makes so many things just click in my head as opposed to just throwing min/max numbers out there that will realistically never be possible within an actual hunt.
@natbvm1880
4 жыл бұрын
Gaijin can get mathy when he wants to
@MrCharly780
4 жыл бұрын
As someone who just unga bunga his way with lbg with full safi it's nice to finally understand why
@sean12mps
4 жыл бұрын
Thought I was the only one
@Mantosasto
4 жыл бұрын
Same, lol
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
The elemental ammo normal cap is actually 1.57x of base MV (the 22% value mentioned), The Safi 3pcs increase that to 1.8x and Safi 5pcs increase that to 2.35x cap. The 2.2x and 2.55x mentioned is only other than elemental ammo. Now there is 2 category in elemental increase: 1. Flat bonus and effected by cap 2. Base bonus and not effected by cap, but the cap apply with base bonus in mind. Example of flat bonus are elemental attack up, Horn Ele Up, Coalescence, Safi 3 pcs and Safi 5 pcs Example of base bonus is elemental augment, custom mod and Alatreon set bonus. Elemental augment increase the base MV by 2/1/1/2 per level. e.g lvl 4 augment give 6 base bonus, thus 22 > 28 base MV with normal cap 1.57x28 = 43.96 Custom mod only has elemental option by 6th and 7th upgrade. The 6th has +1 and 7th has +2 to base MV. Here is a nice charts imgur.com/a/jlR0GTJ
@Drischa
4 жыл бұрын
Really love you putting out videos again, even if you get details off sometimes you're such a charm and wonderful to listen to. I knew that elemental ammo scaled off raw but I didn't have a clue about the numbers or how element up worked on them, this really cleared it up. Thank you so much ^^
@joshmay2944
4 жыл бұрын
This video brought to you by Safi Jiiva. Jk, glad to hear you’re enjoying the game again!
@AwwwHellYeah
4 жыл бұрын
250 hours in MHW (as my first MH game), and this video was the first video that really educated me on what motion values and hitzone values really mean aside from bigger number = better damage
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
I am happy! I felt I found a good way to explain it and that helped prompt the vid ^^
@uncledeez1964
4 жыл бұрын
You taught me something after 1300 hours playing this game. You are really good
@lynxfresh5214
4 жыл бұрын
5:51 "Mrgrgrgrgrgr" A blatant Bravely Default/Second reference huh? Unacceptable! (Jk).
@shablam8947
4 жыл бұрын
Not enough people love Bravely Default
@grandpulse7970
4 жыл бұрын
Not enough people know about it either. Which is a damn crime in itself
@jysaw1
4 жыл бұрын
Excited for the sequel
@Slenderguy56
4 жыл бұрын
@@jysaw1 You mean Bravely Second? Isn't it out already?
@brandon16elite79
4 жыл бұрын
Bravely Default 2 better be as good or around as good as Bravely Default and Bravely Second.
@mugen3603
4 жыл бұрын
😭 Thank you for using actual numbers on a weapon to give examples. The other videos just talk about this value or that value, but they don't show it using an actual weapon so I always get confused.
@KorrinAvenged
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting this info out here as a lbg main I see a lot of misconceptions about how elemental lbgs work and this is one of the better explanations I’ve seen. thx
@doctoreplay
4 жыл бұрын
Good to see you doing MHW guides again, I hope you’re enjoying Alatreon.
@tmbocelot
4 жыл бұрын
You’ve still got the best videos!
@yoaskikaga
4 жыл бұрын
Good video! There are a lot of videos about this LBG but I haven't seen anyone take this approach in explaining. Glad you're back making Iceborne content.
@gjhallarhorn8969
4 жыл бұрын
The fact you put in a bravely default reference in 5:51 makes me happy.
@vinzmarasigan9287
4 жыл бұрын
I love that ur posting new content for MHWI.. this kind of content is what got me to subscribe to ur channel. I love that a lot of content creator, casual and veteran players including me got really excited and got everyone excited to play MHWI again because of the new title update. Im really excited for the next title update! Please make a video about what returning monster you wish to have as the fifth title update.. keep the awesome work!
@naqibfarhan4356
4 жыл бұрын
How can I like this video 10 times??? Liking it once just doesn't do it justice.
@Exilis
Жыл бұрын
One of your best videos. A shame it didn't garner more attention.
@therage3869
3 ай бұрын
3yrs later.. thank you for this video. Elemental amo information is scarce lol
@84montreux39
4 жыл бұрын
I love when you post a video. I don't even have world or iceborne. I'm still playing mh4u. But he content is just so interesting. It's amazing!
@chase8611
4 жыл бұрын
I hated playing bowgun, but the Alatreon LBG got me to start farming bowguns that I never thought I'd be into. Thank you Alatreon.
@Frankie.Gonzalez
4 жыл бұрын
I made the LBG yesterday and was going to run silver rath but now I know that Safi is better for LBG thanks. Also, I Love the Pokke Village Music in the Background.
@bowserfriend
4 жыл бұрын
Safi is always better than silver rath for elemental damage, tho you take some damage the evade 3 it gives for free sort of makes up for it, and then you stock yourself up with 3 medicine jewels ans that lifegain you'll get will be much larger than any loss you've had
@kozren
4 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a lot of new content.
@billstanton1378
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video, I've been playing 3000 hours and this was amazingly informative! Thank you
@khoiphan5976
4 жыл бұрын
Good to see you back making mhw videos, Gaijin. Wonderful and helpful video as always.
@Shadowlink3000GAIA
4 жыл бұрын
That safi'jiva sponsor joke made me laugh more than I would like to admit....
@shinebrightside4700
4 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic, informative guide. Thank you, Gaijin.
@finchtm
4 жыл бұрын
Gaijin is the new Monster Hunter Math guy.
@garrettneilson6885
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up!
@xXTruexBladeXx
4 жыл бұрын
Okay I’m sick of all these safi ads on my feed. Gajin I thought you weren’t a sellout :(. Haha jk good video man XD
@BM03
4 жыл бұрын
0:25 Hunting is an expression of the heart! Don't ever be afraid, Gaijin!
@lethalstinger
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, gaijin. I never knew Safi sets will multiply that kind of elemental damage! :D
@remotecontrolaxe
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, Alatreon's LBG is great for him combined with Safi armor and fire+ice skills. After struggling for a long time with Alatreon using my normal CB (Kjarr Ice) or SA (kjarr fire for when weak to that), I eventually got him with ice hammer. And now with his gun finally upgraded and augmented, I can reliably kill him with it. Funny enough, LBG not being able to break the head worth crap is actually to the weapon's benefit so you don't run out of 1 type of ammo. Thanks for the guides!
@Pennaflumen
4 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly augments just increase the base amount of your stats, and in element's case, it actually means that it can also increase your max cap. There was a video that Team Darkside did when they were trying to hit the highest damage number possible in one hit where they talk about it.
@YaBoyCheeks
4 жыл бұрын
Correct. Augs for elemental are base, not additive. You can increase your elemental cap with them, so in short, bigger numbers
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I know they do but I have no clue as to how much they increase your base by, all the data is conflicting :p
@Gazeta2nd
4 жыл бұрын
@@gaijinhunter First one on lbg increases base ele by 2, second by 1 (so we're at 3), 3rd by 1 (4), and 4th by 2 (up to 6 total base element added).
@doomdoot6731
4 жыл бұрын
Also maybe relevant addition: As far as I know, the Alatreon Set-bonus converts 2% of your elemental resistances (total afaik) into elemental attack that's additive to the base as well. So you get a whooping 4 true element at 200 elemental resistances total (40 resistance in each stat). With 3pcs Safi's armor, this brings you up to a 12 true element (120 bloated) which is still 3 (30 bloated) off of what Safi's 5 piece set provides - not including affinity. Also keep in mind that with elemental ammo the crits normally is just the physical portion of the damage: Safi's armor includes 3 levels of crit boost (iirc) which brings the physical damage multiplier on a crit to 1.4x. If we apply that to the 16 raw damage we had before, we get an increase of roughly 6.4 damage increase, which is rounded down to 6. If you want to increase your elemental damage portion of the elemental ammunition to the max, you need to use a Kjarr weapon in combination with the Safi'Jiva 5 piece. That adds another 25% bonus to the elemental portion of your damage (according to Honeyhunter), so it should take your 44 to a lovely 51 on a crit. The 57 with the Kjarr Blitz "Ice" (338 bloated Raw) should turn into a lovely 73.65 rounded to 74 damage total while wearing 5 pieces of Safi's armor. If you are looking for a set to deal more damage to Alatreon to get the cap easier, going for the Kjarr Weapons is your best choice because of the elemental crit they provide. If you can reach 100% affinity (which is easy as hell with Safi, let's be real) you can hit the elemental cap in about 80% of the time it would take with a normal weapon - which can be the difference between hitting it once and not hitting it at all. If you DON'T have the Safi Armor or feel uncomfortable with the health drain, your next best choice would potentially be a Safi Weapon with Silverlos Essence and 3 pieces of Silverlos for the sweet 1.4x multiplier on elemental crits. Crunching some numbers: with a build I cobbled together just now, I got 300 raw on the elemental ammo with the Aquashot gun. 100% affinity, high up-time, comfy healthboost 3 and Blight Resistance 3, elemental attack 3 all the good stuff. This should give you a 44.8% elemental damage (before hitzone values) translating into 134.4 rounded to 134. For Alatreon you'd be looking at a 17 pure elemental damage against his legs and wings, and 21 damage against the "arm" (or frontlegs). Take that times 2 for each bullet because you're rapid firing, and you get 43 total elemental damage against his arms, and 35 against his hindlegs and wings (don't forget that elemental ammo can hit upwards of two ticks per shot) per bullet per bodypart hit. Build here: honeyhunterworld.com/mhwbi/?2008,266,252,250,270,274,2,aff:1-;;;;-at5;at5;ec6;rs4;1slyy:1tcrt,0,0,230,0,0,232,57,0,158,0,0,232,57,0,232,57,87,226,109,0,5:0:0:0:0:0:0,Recoil,Recoil,Recoil,Reload,none For Ice-form you get roughly a third of that damage (so ~14 elemental damage against his arms and ~10 against his wings and hind legs) per bullet per bodypart hit. In dragon form that damage is boosted by another 50% (so 21 elemental against the arms, 15 against wings and hind legs) per bullet. While this is probably quite a chunk less than the Alatreon LBG + Safi'Jiva armor combination (using higher Hitzone values, because you can use fire and ice, rather than water all fight), it should still yield a good amount of damage against Alatreon and enable you to break the DPS check rather comfortably and consistently at least in solo play. Taking some liberty in lifting numbers from Reddit, you need 3188 elemental damage dealt to Alatreon within 5-6 minutes in order to pass the Escaton Judgement check with a LBG solo- or simply put (with the build provided above) roughly 74 poorly placed hits against his fire form, or 228 against his ice form, or 152 against dragon form, when hitting one arm only with each bullet. Divide this number by two, to get the number of shots needed when aiming semi-properly, so that each shot hits each front leg once. So a 37 bullet DPS check (solo) with the build provided. Just in case anyone was still stuck on Alatreon and his DPS check.
@quantizedanson
4 жыл бұрын
bump
@TheDaemonDD
4 жыл бұрын
Very cool addition to the discussion. Good job!
@MrClean-lk6vi
4 жыл бұрын
I might try with Alatreon LBG I heard it’s good and Safi armor...
@raigrex8362
4 жыл бұрын
Its amazing
@Scarlight_JB
4 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing with a bowgun your goal isn’t to break the head, but to just reach the damage check with different ammo for each element?
@raigrex8362
4 жыл бұрын
@@Scarlight_JB precisely
@MrClean-lk6vi
4 жыл бұрын
@JB As Lbg I can break the wings atleast
@MrClean-lk6vi
4 жыл бұрын
@Ra1grex Alright imma check it out rn !!!
@FrancoisXavierLaunois
4 жыл бұрын
Worth noting both attack and elemental augments effectively raise your elemental power. I usually go health + 2 elem because I am a scrub, but from what I have tested 1 attack + 2 elemental augments give better damage than 3 elemental augments.
@MrNubnoob123
4 жыл бұрын
Pew pew pew, mrgrgrgrgr. Hehe nice effects
@bnm975
4 жыл бұрын
So your in love with a dominator. i see you ;)
@whiteoscreen2383
4 жыл бұрын
Gaijin Hunter is still Alive :D thanks for the video
@pranav_k__
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video thanks
@mikeandikes8857
4 жыл бұрын
Great vid Gaijin! is Alatreon’s set bonus similar to safi in terms of increasing the cap for elements
@Gazeta2nd
4 жыл бұрын
Alatreon's set doesn't inherently increase ele cap, but since it raises your base element, you don't have to worry about that unless you're also using an external source to raise your element too.
@yokoyokome5281
4 жыл бұрын
Great video.. (DB) elemental cap is 900 Solo. But I don't know with the hunting horn
@huntert7650
4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!
@TKM20XX
4 жыл бұрын
Been trying out different builds against Alatreon lately and Safijiva appeared in my dream last night, they told me to use their power but I could'nt understand why. Now I know. Thanks for explaining the mysterious dream I had!
@DoodlesD
4 жыл бұрын
Huh. I have an actual reason to make Safi armor now. Never cared for it on my melees but my only bowguns I use besides hbg stygian is elemental LBGs! thanks!
@BHonggg532
4 жыл бұрын
3 piece Safi is amazing for spread 3 hbg as well!
@YueYukii
4 жыл бұрын
THANKS A FUCKING LOT!!! I´ve been playing for 2 years and i never knew this! I now know i did wasted for so long having level 6 element on my bowgun (i remember doing 44 dmg a lot of times), and my now ultimate safi build also reach the 60 dmg you said. Now with this info i can compare different builds i have in mind, like alatreon plus safi, or safi plus namielle, namielle plus alatreon..... Again, thanks a lot.
@KevKev7557
4 жыл бұрын
[Whoops I put the comment in the wrong place haha ] This was a really good video, thank you for explaining this! But one question: Will you need Affinity and Weaknesses Exploit for elemental Blowguns? Just curious, I wanted to make a build with the AlaLBG :)
@Gazeta2nd
4 жыл бұрын
You won't. The elemental portion of your ammo won't crit unless you have Critical Element or True Critical Element.
@chomchop0884
4 жыл бұрын
And the alatreon 3 piece armor set will extend the element cap like Safi armor?
@GamalJesus
4 жыл бұрын
Funny how Safi'jiiva armor all of a sudden got that much attention.
@CxMegaMan
4 жыл бұрын
Now I need something similar for MHGU
@TachiFrypan
4 жыл бұрын
The Ala LBG would have been so much better if I had not gone to the trouble of augmenting a full set of Safi LBGs. >
@stefanorighi932
4 жыл бұрын
5:49 Master Yoda has spoken
@KaiKrimson56
4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was doing a Tim Allen grunt.
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Combination Tim Allen and scooby doo lol
@n64central
4 жыл бұрын
You should go into MR Kjarr weapons
@justino301
4 жыл бұрын
Ok, the video is extremely useful, but now I have a question : What is the utility of using safi + Ala set? Thank you for your content 🎈
@SoapChill
4 жыл бұрын
I believe phemeto recommends elemental augments, but i could have heard wrong. The dude from gunner guild, he seem pretty solid with most of his info. For whatever thats worth
@WineZ22
4 жыл бұрын
Me just finishing IceBorne main story. Ahh snap. Need to get to Safi first before fighting the Avatar.
@gositonapencil9508
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think in the next monster hunter game they should move the elemental caps up to a natural of 2x...
@truezinogre1287
4 жыл бұрын
that bowgun is way to fun not to try a hunt or 2
@Squalid
4 жыл бұрын
I was forgetting the pole on the training area, so the damage number is physical + elemental, so I can see when the element attack up worth or not even for blademaster weapons, right? Thanks, my fight against Altreon will return this weekend!
@Zamusss
4 жыл бұрын
Yes and no, you must be extremelly aware that the post has a 80HZV for physical damage it will favor raw damage a lot more than elemental, there are very few monster parts with such amaizing HZV.
@XiloTheOdd
4 жыл бұрын
any experimentation with the alatreon set bonus? how about using velkhana for crit element? i've been dinkng with both because i got bored with Safi and stopped fighting it for awhile. so i only got up to a 3 piece set bonus. but if i could do a 3 piece safi and 2 piece velkhana to achieve a similar effect and simply stack crit and element with some minor boosting to raw (skill options that do both crit and raw for example) then i may have to rethink my current set. so far tests with alatreon are good though. 3 of that with crit element has been doing some good elemental damage even if a spot doesnt take good raw or shot type damage.
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
Alatreon set bonus is only 2% of total of absolute value of resistance. Meaning each 50 total res only gain 1 more ele MV. That is equivalent to one elemental aug. Compared that to Safi 5 pcs give a freaking 15 and raise the cap 2.35! Safi 3 pcs give +8 but MUCH lower cap to 1.8x
@freshtodef123456789
4 жыл бұрын
Gaijin Please make a Vid on Alatreon Hammer + Frost Craft Set. that thing is Impeccable
@dartheastman1599
4 жыл бұрын
I think he’s a good monster to fight I really liked co-op with teams it was fun to take him down. I’ve never used a bowgun I found he’s weak to insect glaive in-fact his is awsome
@kiaburr94
4 жыл бұрын
So just to double check things. If I take that bowgun and my safi set with Resentment 5 and mega demon drug, I should reach roughly 112 elemental per shot before resistances?
@SotiCoto
3 жыл бұрын
So... if the Safi set boosts the elemental cap, what does Alatreon's own armour skill do? I mean does the one that adds elemental resistances to elemental attack also raise the cap? And if so is it by more or less than the Safi set?
@rovinnejeancuenco3388
4 жыл бұрын
How about the elemental phials for SA and elemental amp for CB?
@LPPhoenixRed
4 жыл бұрын
gaijin sensei doesnt know... so... how should i understand augments? i think i stay with my SA and never touch those ranged weps XD
@acrab6527
4 жыл бұрын
Each Star of weakness a monster has increases the damage elemental does though. It's not like lack of stars is increased defense for the monster, each star is an increase in your damage. The training pole only has 1 star in everything. So a 45 damage fire shot on the pole ends up doing 80ish to say, Velkhana. Also, you really ought to test elemental ammo on the wagon, and shoot down the axle. Elemental Ammo is piercing, and does more ticks of damage the further through the enemy it goes. Also don't forget the power barrel which makes the distance between ticks of damage shorter, so you get more ticks of damage total, and more ticks in each part, meaning more ticks in the weak spot/wounded part.
@JoKaelys
4 жыл бұрын
Do the elemental part of damage can crit without any TCE/Kjarr bonus?
@Mantosasto
4 жыл бұрын
So for us ding dongs that get dizzy by numbers, what's the bottom line? Elem attk up to level 3, Safi armor and maybe elem up augment?
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
All elemental attack uo, all ele augment and custom mod if available, Safi 5 pcs. 1 lvl of elemental attack up still give more value than just +3 more raw from attack boost as long as you use Safi pieces.
@yurareigiryu
4 жыл бұрын
You are gonna talk about the Alatreon LBG, and NOT talk about Dragon Ammo?! It's the only Bowgun that Rapid Fires Dragon. I appreciate the video. I know how elemental cap works, but I didn't know level 6 is a waste on LBG. I learned something new.
@zyronix2047
4 жыл бұрын
0:25 with your content
@vitorvena
4 жыл бұрын
I never played LBG but that Alatreon LBG is SO SEXY and the ammo types aswell like God its happening, im making a LBG jack of all trades build... The only sad part is that i wish it had slicing so i could cut tails if uaing it while brainlessly farming stuff.
@t1r1g0n
4 жыл бұрын
The best thing is that you only need one armor and one weapon for all different elements, except for dragon. The only thing you want to change are the bowgun mods and the elemental decos on your armor. I really like that.
@hermitcard4494
2 жыл бұрын
What about Ctrical Element and True Crt Element??
@justincook1690
4 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, what does elemental attack+3 look like with full safi in this calculation? How much of a difference is it vs element+6 with the set upping the cap but also providing element value of its own? Mostly, since safi gives you a built in way to always have resentment up and attack boost impacting both element and raw damage for this type of weapon, I'm wondering if resentment+5 and Ice/fire +3 is better than ice/fire +6 with no resentment.
@Gazeta2nd
4 жыл бұрын
ele attack + 3 would be 22 (base ele of bowgun) + 10 (ele 3) + 15 (safi 5) for a total of 47. Ideally you'd want to have both element maxed with resentment.
@tachikoma81
4 жыл бұрын
So we still need to up the ice/fire level to level 6 to get better damages?
@paperrexorangecounty6847
4 жыл бұрын
How affinity multplier works in elemental damage? Still confuse is it worth to get more affinity while using 5pcs safi?
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
Elemental damage dont have any critical unless with Crit Element and True Crit Element skills. The only thing that got crit is the raw portion of ele ammo which has measly 8mv. That is why meta build dont build affinity at all but just use buttload of raw with 5 pcs safi, elemental attack up, Ammo Up and maybe razorsharp
@t-revor6420
4 жыл бұрын
Hei aevanko if the HH sounds is WAHMO, what sounds the lbg makes?
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Pew pew pew!
@XxRiseagainstfanxX
4 жыл бұрын
Stormslinger LBG shoots thunder at deviljhos tiny arms for 106 per shot for me lol.
@chewjinghong
4 жыл бұрын
Hey gajin hunter, able to come out with a LBG build of your own? I’m trying to learn LBG atm
@t1r1g0n
4 жыл бұрын
The build usually is Full Savi armor + elemental lbg. Culve and modded safi's are great, best option ofc is alatreon now. As charm you want the spareshot one. Then you want health up, the element you're using +6 and resentment, as it works great with Safi armor. Boosting both the raw and the elemental dmg of your shots. The rest of the slots are upnto your preferences, same as the mantles. Most people are maxing Evade window and blight resistance though.
@meeeecham
4 жыл бұрын
I remember in older games crag ammo did a little bit of fire elemental damage. Do we know if that's the same with sticky ammo in MHW?
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
It does a little bit fixed of fire damage unaffected by any source. 3 true fire on sticky 1 and 5 true fire on sticky 2 or 3. On 30 fire hz that will just be 1 or 2 more damage considering weird rounding error in game.
@mammothminis9884
4 жыл бұрын
Please help! I have been using this exact set on multiple FAILED Alatreon quests. All post 25 minutes of whaling on Ala non stop with fire/ice bullets with rank 6 fire/ice damage and full safi set with ala LBG +2 element augments. Usually just after his 4th explosion I die. What am I doing wrong???
@Childemeister
4 жыл бұрын
Not enough raw damage
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. With this set it’s stupidly easy to break the judgement so pull back on element to where it is still manageable and pour resources into raising the raw. Try using clutch to keep alatreon enraged since he takes more damage that way. Use demon drugs and stuff
@christopher-yn8lk
4 жыл бұрын
so basically if you're using LBG then there isn't really a reason to run anything past element attack level 3 unless you're using the safi set.
@oldboykenji
4 жыл бұрын
There is one thing I don't get. Why are some LBG builds running with wex and crit eye/chance and some don't? Skills like wex, crit boost, crit eye ect. only count for raw portion of your true raw (8%). Crit element allows you to crit with your element portion (22%). So as long you don't run crit element, skills like crit eye, crit boost wex ect. doesn't affect your damage that much, or am I wrong? Therefore running them is a waste? Does crit element stack with crit boost?
@garrettmooney3343
4 жыл бұрын
Lol I don’t know what augments do. But one element up augment gave me like a 9 percent extra damage some how.
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
I believe it unlocks the cap by giving you base 30 but I was unable to verify
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
It raise the 22% value shown in the video by 2/1/1/2 per lvl of augment (or 2/3/4/6 total). The custom mod only has elemental option available by 6th and 7th upgrade. The 6th is +1 and 7th is +2. It also increase to the base and not as a flat thus the cap multiplier apply to them too. e.g 26 from lvl 3 augment cap is 26 * 1.57 and not 1.57 * 22 (the original).ONLY elemental augment, elemental custom mod and alatreon set bonus apply to BASE. All other bonus is subjected to cap.
@Robmon3048
4 жыл бұрын
Quick question, given that increasing base raw attack value increases damage from both the raw portion and the elemental portion, does that mean that augmenting for attack might be better than augmenting for elemental (given that you already wear Safi 5pc for raising ele cap)?
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
Possibly but only if you are using better than the most basic of deco. Try it out in the training room and you’ll be able to see :)
@kid0123
4 жыл бұрын
Considering the cost of 1st atk augment equal to 2 lvl of ele aug, based on my calculation it is worse than all ele aug tho the damage is only 1 damage differences.
@eomsouls7460
4 жыл бұрын
So what level element should be worthy when you are wearing the whole safi set armor??
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
I think we can go to 6 if we want, but if we need other comfort skills then we can drop to 3 without destroying our overall output
@DJMJ4
4 жыл бұрын
hmmm so does this mean you like mhw again? cuz im loving it too ^_^
@MrNovascar
4 жыл бұрын
ok there is one question left for me: why does the element ammo hit twice sometime? Is it something like a small AOE and hits multiple parts?
@KyonV13
4 жыл бұрын
Because it's technically also a Pierce type of ammo so it can hit multiple parts
@MrNovascar
4 жыл бұрын
@@KyonV13 thx ^^
@DeadlockDrago
4 жыл бұрын
So HBG does less elemental damage because..... reasons. LBG already gets rapid fire for these ammos, idk why HBG can't have the same scaling. It's supposed to be the slower harder hitting version. Still love this info, Idk why the game has to hide this information that's useful in build making. I've known there was an elemental cap, but never what that value was. This bowgun is good for Alatreon, but I get the feeling people want the Kjarr weapons more if they can get them. Built-in elemental crit, with the Safi armor raising the cap significantly (never knew it did that), that's alot of element being pumped out. Though I have to ask.... what's the scaling like for Dragon S?
@LastUchiha
4 жыл бұрын
Guess i can drop fire and ice lvl 6 and add more survivability
@TaeoLore
4 жыл бұрын
Unless you run full safi armor
@Ganjamus
4 жыл бұрын
The Monster Hunter Math Guys mentioned in one of their elemental damage videos that Iceborne removed the elemental damage cap on weapons. Is that not the case?
@gaijinhunter
4 жыл бұрын
I spent hours testing and found a cap does exist. Japanese sites also say it exists, but honestly the game can be weird so it’s not something I’d be willing to bet my life on
@CCCM89
4 жыл бұрын
oh, so they changed the elemental rules for this game? tell me, is the element damage we see on blademaster weapons also a percent/motion value of the total raw? if so, then elemental great sword is more busted then I thought...
@KyonV13
4 жыл бұрын
iirc each weapon has different values for element. Great Sword's is....not a lot. It's still there for sure but nowhere near something like SnS. That's also not even taking into account each attack's individual motion value.
@caioken
4 жыл бұрын
The motion value of a blademaster attack doesn't affect elemental deamage. So a big charged slash and a weak one would deal the same elemental damage. That's why fast weapons prefer to go elemental while slow ones prefer raw damage. Note that there are a lot of attacks with hidden elemental modifiers and each weapon has a different multiplier for the Crit Element skill, but that's ususally not enough to make elemental stronger than raw on slow weapons, aside from very specific matchups like Ebony Odogaron and Alatreon I recommend going to Kiranico and checking the session Combat > Damage Calculation if you want to go more in depth
@lolikeeper4814
4 жыл бұрын
@@caioken I have gone in-depth on some weapons to figure out the multipliers and there are some attacks on slow weapons that have surprisingly high elemental modifiers. For example the max charged jumping slash on greatsword has a 4.5 multiplier and the hammer spin applies elemental fully on each spin hit.
@kevindenis9551
4 жыл бұрын
Man, being a blade master for the vast majority of the game, I honestly was so vexed by bowgun for so long. Seeing this, I think it’s best to just improve your ammo with the ammo decos if the elemental damage is only going to go up that little. Better to just augment that bowgun for maximum elemental damage than waste those slots. Then again I don’t know much about bowgun so if anyone’s got any knowledge to pass on, I’m all ears. 😄
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