the criticism about the need for a FAQ really surprised me, given how much Tom adores Marvel Dice Masters - a game which MASSIVELY needed a FAQ from the day it was released, and which STILL doesn't have satisfactory answers to many of the outstanding questions about timing of effects and card interactions.
@pikapomelo
9 жыл бұрын
You had me at METAL GEAR.
@kingme8155
9 жыл бұрын
FYI. You can preorder the game for $15 off. Not sure how long this will last. Plaid Hat's web site says in 2-5 month the game will be available. So not bad of wait and a discount.
@briandjquinn
9 жыл бұрын
This looks promising, instantly reminded me of Letters from Whitechapel - which has always been a big hit for me. Adding this to the wishlist.
@EurojuegosBsAs
9 жыл бұрын
Other games not mentioned in the review Ninja - Legend of the Scorpion Clan w/ an oriental theme Nuns of the Run as the family-friendly The review does a good job presents the neat features of the game (cool minis, sci-fi theme, simple LOS) But I'll still wait for something innovative in hidden movement games they all play pretty much the same, and they all usually last longer than advertised Thanks Tom and Sam for the review :)
@ionas82
9 жыл бұрын
Instantly reminded me of Scotland Yard which is a game I still have on my shelf cause I loved it as a child :). It won't replace Scotland Yard cause that is a viable game for families and elderly people (so you can play it form 9 to 99 or something :p)... but I am definitely going to try Spectre Ops!
@fingolfinfinwe
9 жыл бұрын
Frankly I have so many sci-fi themed games at this point, that currently from a theme only perspective it makes me want to stick with Letters from Whitechapel over this, despite it's own very dark theme. I'd probably pass over both of them for Fury of Dracula, but I won't shell out the $$ for that unless it's reprinted.
@E12vrg
7 жыл бұрын
In my copy of the game there are possible objective locations printed on the board. I dunno if you just think it's too small too see or that this has been changed. But i can (somewhat clearly) see the six locations for each objective with a number and a side of a die.
@SwampWater
9 жыл бұрын
Does this replace "Escape from the Aliens from Outer Space"? I only ask, because I was about to pre-order that game, and this looks very similiar - with a few more components.
@theindyjt
9 жыл бұрын
At 4:36, you mention that if an agent crosses line of sight of an agent, (s)he places the Last Seen token where the agent was last seen. Plaid Hat came out a few weeks ago and said that you are also supposed to put your agent token on the board, showing which agent (s)he is.
@joshroberts8278
8 жыл бұрын
If you could only have one. Fury of Dracula or Spector Ops?
@trojan403
4 жыл бұрын
That's what I'm wondering... But from what I hear, Dracula can go for a while?
@Demovamon
9 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction as Sam when Tom had his 'two hidden thumbs up' XD
@MrTomlette
9 жыл бұрын
Live play of Metal Gear Solid! I want to see Tom scared while sneaking through the enemy's base :P
@GITMASTERZ
9 жыл бұрын
i hope this gets an expansion that adds new agents/hunters, objectives. objectives are a key thing and right now it just feels like im a theif taking stuff in a military compound. would be cool for the agent to be able to eliminate a hunter over a long peroid of time, just for that extra MGS-esque theme.
@dailycocoa
9 жыл бұрын
Wow, this game looks beautiful.
@Brend0ver
9 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this game to come out for a while. Looks super amazing One question, can this game be done in exactly an hour? Normally I play board games over a lunch hour with co-workers, so our games have to play in an hour or less.
@SamHealey6
9 жыл бұрын
Possibly...but it's dependent on how long the players deduce and talk about the possibilities of where the agent moved. It could be that you catch the agent within the first 10 turns...or it could take 35 turns, or you might not catch the agent at all...as he completes his objectives and exits. How long all that takes is almost completely dependent on how you play the game, rather than some measure of time. With fewer players (2-3, maybe 4), I'd be willing to say yes...but reluctantly. With 5 players and the traitor variant, I'd say no. But that opinion could be invalidated by having a group of analytically quick players.Try before you buy, and clock yourselves.
@Brend0ver
9 жыл бұрын
Sam Healey Thanks for the reply!
@igpx666420
5 ай бұрын
So does the agent place a mini on the board or not? Thought it was stated the agent only marks their movement on paper but the agent is clearly placed in the board otherwise how would hunter see him move? Also who places the “last seen here” Marker, agent or hunter? Not explained clearly
@balzi76
9 жыл бұрын
Is this fun for a live play?
@Daremachina
9 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in an iPad app that the spy could use to mark movement instead of those sheets.
@kyledalrymple1548
9 жыл бұрын
Barreser If you are playing with they type of people that might actually do that, try choosing a different game.
@theindyjt
9 жыл бұрын
***** More like choose a different group.
@Daremachina
9 жыл бұрын
Barreser That's what I was thinking. In a game like this it doesn't have to be intentional cheating to ruin the game, a single rule slip-up means the hunters could be on the wrong side of the map the entire game. Having an app enforce those rules makes playing a game like this much easier for the entire group.
@JonWeber
9 жыл бұрын
Barreser cheating isn't that easy though because the agent writes down movements. Players can then replay moves after if they want. But as others say, I wouldn't play with people that cheated in a friendly game. iPad app is a wonderful idea and the immediate feedback I gave to Emerson at BGG Con. The iPad app could also help with movement rules and line of site rules if the player movement was marked too.
@ionas82
9 жыл бұрын
@Daremachina I'd be interested in AN OPTIONAL WebApp that the spy could use to mark movement AS A COMPLEMENT to the paper sheets. Reasons: 1. I don't like enforcement of digital gadgets and would not buy the game 2. Why WebApp? Cause there is no reason to do it native and a WebApp could easily be wrapped by a container or even run locally on your phone within a container. It will work in iOS, Android, Windows Phone and Blackberry, easily.
@chobe78
9 жыл бұрын
I'd very interested how this compares to Nuns on the Run, Escape from the Aliens in Outer Space and Ninja: Legend of the Scorpion Clan. (...at least the first two games I remember Tom talking very positive about)
@Reliken
5 жыл бұрын
and now a Metal Gear game is coming from the same developers! INCREDIBLE
@1981dardar
9 жыл бұрын
i am glad to buy this game. So far most games that tom hates are the games i prefer.
@glenjust630
9 жыл бұрын
What are the primary differences in gameplay between Specter Ops to Level 7 (Omega Protocol)?
@MrTomlette
9 жыл бұрын
I've only played Level 7 OP, obviously, but i'd say they are pretty opposite games. Level 7 has one bad guy but his units allow him to fight the marines in (almost) equal strength; and it's all about actions, shooting, trying to divide the marines, etc. If Specter Ops is remotely similar to Fury of Dracula or Letters, 70% of the game is going to be searching for the spy, thinking where he could be, positioning to get the most squares in your range, etc. Both are 1 vs many games, but I'm pretty sure the tension you'll feel playing the spy is a very different from being the overseer.
@D6Damager
9 жыл бұрын
What is to stop the players from just camping the objectives in a 3 player game?
@SamHealey6
9 жыл бұрын
Having fun...maybe?...camping around a bunch of objectives doesn't sound like fun.
@JonWeber
9 жыл бұрын
Camping wouldn't work because the agent can sneak in and out. If you look closely at the map there is no way to camp an objective effectively.
@SamHealey6
9 жыл бұрын
Jon Weber makes an excellent point. Many times, because of the LOS rules in the game, the agent was in a diagonally adjacent spot to one of the hunters (around a corner or some such thing), and the hunter couldn't see him. This is explained by the fact that the board is actually (in a way) 3D. While the agent was in the diagonally adjacent spot, he was actually (thematically) on the ceiling, or in some shadow that mere vision couldn't penetrate. This was actually one of the harder pills for me to swallow in this game, but in the end it is more thematic, and makes the game more challenging.
@JonWeber
9 жыл бұрын
Sam Healey on BGG someone brought up the diagonal LOS rule as well. In the end I have to agree with you, it is more thematic. To me I explained it as the game isn't played in real time. It is a simulation of a spy hunt. So the explanation could be, the spy peeks around the corner, saw the hunter approaching or heard him and went the other way.
@ionas82
9 жыл бұрын
Sam Healey Having played quite a ton of games that feature "LOS" I have to say if you are on squares and LOS is THAT important (cause it is here) having only orthogonal LOS is quite a good and streamlined approach.
@sebastienzander5593
9 жыл бұрын
Did you guys play with the Pre-Order Bonuses?
@steveg7000
9 жыл бұрын
Howzabout a live play of this?
@lylejackson645
9 жыл бұрын
Watch it played did a live playthrough, and since its watch it played laying a Plaid Hat game, there's a full rules explanation as well.
@steveg7000
9 жыл бұрын
Cool beans.
@homelessjoe
9 жыл бұрын
The rainbow board and reference sheets are a bit daunting. There is certainly a lot going on there visually. I don't think this pulled me enough to pull the trigger. Just don't think it would fit well.
@chrisgallo2236
8 жыл бұрын
Is this s good buy if I already have Fury Of Dracula?
@bobgabriels8456
9 жыл бұрын
how does it compare to nuns on the run ?
@slipAXELknot
9 жыл бұрын
Im soooooo going to preorder this one :)
@stormy7722
8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if after a few plays it gets "samey".
@chrismusix5669
5 жыл бұрын
Three player is great also.
@DarthEd77
9 жыл бұрын
Someone, please reprint Fury of Dracula!!!
@D6Damager
9 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@stlsalv59
9 жыл бұрын
I'll 2nd that
@1981troyboy
9 жыл бұрын
D6Damager i have a copy
@raccoon0413
9 жыл бұрын
DarthEd77 and this will happen !! grats :D
@TheWiseLJ
5 жыл бұрын
Three years later and it's finally happening!
@ofcrpaul
9 жыл бұрын
Isn't this just "Nuns on the Run, Clue The Great Museum Caper, Scotland Yard, Letters from White Chapel etc"?
@trojan403
4 жыл бұрын
"NunsontheRunClue The Great Museum Caper ScotlandYardLettersfromWhiteChapeletc" That was the original title of the game, but they decided to workshop it and eventually was replaced by Specter Ops
@ravenatog
9 жыл бұрын
Got a nice Letters from Whitechapel vibe
@SharlzG
9 жыл бұрын
Sounds like fun
@Fergit_
9 жыл бұрын
Hour of Glory is much more like Metal Gear.
@bvelhacob
9 жыл бұрын
I prefere Lupin the third. 4 ppl in hidden movement and just 1 trying to find them is much more fun!
@JoeyJojoJrJr
9 жыл бұрын
Just say thumb or thumbs. Or get a lot better at thinking up thematic substitutes.
@steveg7000
9 жыл бұрын
In the infamous words of Henchman #24, "a beard is not a substitute for a jawline, no matter how you trim it" ;) (but as someone who openly flouts that axiom, I'd say go with a beard of modest density, even if you have to toss in a dab of "Just for Men")
@Cuix
9 жыл бұрын
these two are so cute oh gosh game looks fun too
@apkryptos
9 жыл бұрын
This game will probably replace my copy of Letters From Whitechapel.
@Lugo428
8 жыл бұрын
I see a game I own on the shelf. Anyone wanna take a guess?
@thesunpouncergamingchannel2654
7 жыл бұрын
Seasons
@Lugo428
7 жыл бұрын
The Sunpouncer Gaming Channel nope
@thesunpouncergamingchannel2654
7 жыл бұрын
lol, gimme a hint. Is it a euro-game or ameritrash?
@Lugo428
7 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I suck at tell what is a "euro-game" or "ameritrash" but if I had to guess, the game I own is the latter.
@thesunpouncergamingchannel2654
7 жыл бұрын
hmm... Kemet?
@yes4me
9 жыл бұрын
Hidden movement game about superhero "cops" trying to kill one superhero spy. Looks repetitive combined with dice luck. I didn't like the traitor idea. I rather have 2 spies. Not my style of gameplay.
@MrTaylork1
9 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what worries me about it. How many different objectives could there be and how much variety?
@SamHealey6
9 жыл бұрын
MrTaylork1 Each objective section has 6 possible locations within it. Each game, the locations are determined by a separate die roll for each section. I'm not one to do the math, but that seems like a fair amount of variety to me.
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