over 3 years later and still gave me a perfect comparison what a great video!
@mysteriousguy019
3 жыл бұрын
About time someone made this comparison and feature AS4. Thanks for sharing.
@miata1370
2 жыл бұрын
The "tire coating" you mentioned is really a "release compound" that enable the tires to more easily be removed from the tire mold during manufacture.
@markh3478
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. Got 54K out of the rear 245/40R18 AS3's on my 2014 MB C250 coupe and was really happy with them . Had AS4's installed today which were about $28 more per tire than I could have gotten AS3+ . I figured $28 premium over 50K miles worth a try . Looking at them on the car cant see any real visual difference from the side . Seem to ride and handle well and are quiet as were AS3+. I run 41psi which seems to balance center tread wear well with outer tread wear . I reduced camber a bit with the SPC adjustable camber kit way back when the AS3's were installed . Wore out Conti Contact DWS in 10K miles on inner edge before reducing camber to negative 1 degree for the AS3's. Took out a tiny amount of rear toe , too since toe changes with camber setting . Got 46K out of AS3's on front and replaced with AS3+ since before AS4 was available . I'll stick with Michelin Pilot Sports on the MB .
@ethanlau279
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Amazing video. You are a great speaker and you hit damn near every technical spec of interest. Real world impressions was also nice.
@marklappan2817
3 жыл бұрын
Just the video I was hoping to watch! Excellent real road commentary.
@zipdoa
2 жыл бұрын
You did an excellent job on this comparison. Thanks for all the info.
@livewoutlimit
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Super detailed, yet concise & well constructed
@agnesf2659
3 жыл бұрын
Impressed! Highly appreciated!
@donaldfett3208
3 жыл бұрын
Very well done. Exactly what I was looking for.
@abdullahyaseer4304
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for. I need tires for my 04 LS430 Sport Suspension. I just got new struts and am definitely gonna get these. Thank you.
@araminrahming8699
3 жыл бұрын
I am in the same debate, thank you for a thorough review and complete testing. Made my decision for me.
@yoleto
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review! Keep up the great work.
@barnesautodetailing
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, I'm getting a set of AS4 on Monday. Taking my car to Back of The Dragon soon so we'll see how they do there
@fiyahblaze8732
3 жыл бұрын
Getting these installed on my car on Friday. Can't wait! Coming from factory Grand Touring tires, to an UHP all season tire. The difference is gonna be night & day. Great review this is truly a successor to the AS3+.
@TRACKMKIII
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review!! I literally just ordered a set...
@HowIDoThingsDIY
2 жыл бұрын
Great review!!! I'm buying these for my S4 right now!
@ianleff100
2 жыл бұрын
i recently got AS4 for my tesla model 3 performance but i still watched the whole video. very well done.
@skyraidfpv6753
3 жыл бұрын
I see 680 is still a bumpy ride all these years later from when I used to drive on it lol.
@jonathanbrand1270
2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Probably the most through review on tires I've ever watched. Manufacturers need to hire you to do reviews, or keep doing them on many many brands and get sponsors and become the "tire guy". Keep it up! Look forward to more videos. Following!!!
@TheBrawlmastah
Жыл бұрын
He's asian
@rodpaine7552
3 жыл бұрын
Very good report and road performance info. Currently running AS3+ 245/40/18 on Neuspeed RSe10 on our 2019 RS 3, now with a total 13k miles, 8.5k fast back road runs and very pleased with their performance. Will certainly consider the AS4 in the near future. Keep up the very good reviews and reporting style.
@rodpaine7552
3 жыл бұрын
UPDATE - Now at 16,350 miles total with 11,540 miles being fast country back road runs. These 245/40/18 AS3+ tires continue to perform extremely well, but now nearing 3/32 tread depth. so will involve the Michelin 4S soon in the same size. They will be used heavily during our summer weather and longer run lengths at speed.
@brentevans4430
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing for this Post! The Bridgestone DriveGuard tires that came with my 328d have horrible grip when the road is wet! I definitely need to give these tires a try.
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
These will be much better than those run flats!
@michaelschneider-
3 жыл бұрын
+1. The A/S 3+ tire has been the 3 season tire of choice for our GTI, 225/45/17, Subi Outback XT (17"), and Audi S3 (17"). I'll look forward to the new and improved A/S 4. . In high country Colorado winter M/S sneakers are a must. Pilot Alpins to the rescue. . Thanks for the A/S tire comparison - nicely produced. . Cheers, subscribed..
@chrisvanek1711
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this great and useful review. Like you, I've also changed from the AS3+ to AS4. And I completely agree with your assessment about being much quieter and a comfortable ride. As I was driving home, I noticed the noise level was muted. Its not vastly significant but definitely noticeable. Resulting in a more comfortable ride. Will see how it performs in the next while.
@tonycamaj4560
Жыл бұрын
long term review please?
@StealthGTI
3 жыл бұрын
That drive reminds me of Hwy 101 on my way to Petaluma. :-) I just had one of my AS3's replaced under Discount Tire's warranty. But that was it. The next time a screw takes out a tire, I'll probably have to replace them all. Thanks for sharing the difference.
@jauregui49
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video, Boss.
@airforcex9412
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very informative!
@therealm3
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! Got a good laugh at 680 being your bumpy pothole test road. I hate that section of road. Bent a wheel right there years ago.
@da73
3 жыл бұрын
I recognize this portion of 680 as well and avoid that lane as much as possible! 🤣
@chrisl6989
3 жыл бұрын
Yup, got to stay fast in the left lane, otherwise you'll be destroying your car. Surprised they haven't fixed it yet. I suspect this summer they'll be redoing that section.
@lorentzarmstrong3008
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I came across your video with this comparison. Until I did, I wasn’t aware on the evolution to PS4 All-season. I own a ‘17 Camaro SS 1LE. Back when I bought it in 2017, I knew that I would need a winter wheel/tire set to get me through Atlanta’s winters. So, I researched tires first choosing the A/S 3+ which I could only get in 19” for my car. This pushed me to buy a second set of wheels (19”) for them. This wasn’t what I initially intended to do but it certainly makes swapping more convenient. Now, the A/S 3+ is available in a larger 19” size (325/30ZR19) which I think will look better on the 11” wide rears I chose to go with (fronts are 10”). Though I went with the widest available at the time (285/35ZR19), they are stretched on the 11’s, a look I’ve never been fond of. Of course, the 325/30’s should fix this appearance. So, yesterday I discovered the A/S 3+ comes in my original OE wheel sizes 😕. Ugh! I wish they had 4 years ago but I was forced into a more convenient option. Now, I see Michelin doesn’t make (yet anyway) this PS4 in the 19” sizes I would need. Here we go again 😕 I will just have to keep checking back with Michelin about every 6 months or so in hopes the size offerings are expanded.
@lorentzarmstrong3008
2 жыл бұрын
Update! I checked back on the Michelin website and happy and relieved to report size offerings have expanded and are now available in both sizes I currently run for my all-season 19” wheel set: 285/35R19 for front 10” wide rim and 325/30R19 for rear 11” rim. Moreover, for us Camaro SS 1LE and ZL1 owners, these Michelin Pilot Sport All-season 4 tires are available now for both OEM 20” wheel sizes, 10” front and 11” rear rim widths (285/30R20 and 305/30R20). Thanks #michelin!
@squirrelmaster1225
3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the video, im sold : )
@willcrenshaw2380
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I will add that I got a great opportunity to test the new AS4’s on my 2015 Lexus IS350 F-Sport AWD. We had 10” of snow dump down a few months back here in Idaho. The car didn’t skip a beat. Even with “snow mode” off, and traction control off, and my tune turned all the way up.... no problems.
@willcrenshaw2380
3 жыл бұрын
I run a staggered setup, by the way. Not sure how much of a difference it makes. Fronts: 255/35/18 Rears: 275/35/18
@rafaeloliva8328
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work I’m waiting for my tires pilot sport 4 and after seeing your video I’m very happy I did currently riding the continental 6+ and I have to say excelente grip but base in your experience looks like I’m going to get more grip. On my c7 zo6. Thanks.
@want2race441
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@hollowtian6148
3 жыл бұрын
Wow man, this is a great, detailed comparison and review. Pretty objective as well. Good job. I’m consider AS4 for my 128i as well. Thanks for your information
@sniqowthefirst
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Ive been contemplating which of these to get and weather the extra money is worth it.
@CharlesCo918
2 жыл бұрын
Great review!
@easyx9mm
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, very informative!
@nplus1watches35
2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I've run the Pilot Sport A/S series tires from the beginning on a VW Mk4 TDI and I've found all of them to be the perfect balance between mileage, handling and ride. Bonus points for driving in the slow lane of SB 680, too, that's a nasty stretch!
@FaRKle0079
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Always great to hear from another local!
@superstring101
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you.
@ronl8495
3 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I just had a pair of 275/40/20 A/S 4 tires installed on the front of my 2018 Challenger R/T Scatpack and am so impressed with them that I will be having another pair installed prior to snow season here in Kansas! 😎
@HimothyJonez
2 жыл бұрын
@Ron L How are they in the rain?
@HimothyJonez
2 жыл бұрын
How are they in the rain bro? I hear the 275s can be bad in the rain since they are wider. I have a 2016 scat pack challenger and about to purchase new ones.
@ronl8495
2 жыл бұрын
@@HimothyJonez top notch, better than any other tire I’ve ever had on my Challenger!
@lluda44
Жыл бұрын
How are your A/S 4s in the snow?
@Alphahydro
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. And you’re right.......different frequencies do have a greater attenuation.
@TheGman2421
2 жыл бұрын
Great job on your video, your discussion on noise was most helpful. I
@STAyTHIrstyMyFREind
3 жыл бұрын
Easy subscription. All your vids are very informative!
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoy them.
@sterlingjones7032
3 жыл бұрын
Those are some pretty creamy rims...will be going with the as4 from as3+ this week thanks to this vid!
@miket.8528
2 жыл бұрын
A nice sized midwest pothole ate one of my AS3+ hopefully I can mix in a couple AS4 without throwing my AWD car off. 🤞🏾🤞🏾 Thanks for a great comparison video!
@FacelessMachine
2 жыл бұрын
Loved your video! Getting the AS4's put on my '19 Mustang GT tomorrow. Can't wait to try them out!
@benhaze1010
Жыл бұрын
Hey how did it go? I am considering the AS4 also for a Mustang GT.
@FacelessMachine
Жыл бұрын
@@benhaze1010 So good. Ran me about $1300 for all 4, but they're fire. Great grip around tight turns. I feel super confident if I'm caught in torrential downpour. I'm in NJ and we got no snow at all this past winter, so I can't speak for how they are in snow/ice, but I'd imagine as respectfully good as in rain and tight turns. Smoothe ride but you can still feel the road. Not rock hard for ride like my previous Pirelli's, but not bouncy like you're in a caddie. 😁
@benhaze1010
Жыл бұрын
@@FacelessMachine Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I was so disappointed with the AS3+. I was considering the PS4 but for our climate in Quebec that would mean needing 3 sets of wheels/tires to be able to use the Mustang almost year around.
@FacelessMachine
Жыл бұрын
@@benhaze1010 I have the all seasons, so you can use them in cold Quebec weather. 😁
@bradleeschlieper6264
3 жыл бұрын
good job my man!
@killerkennels9002
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review I have as3+ and I just ordered the pilot sport 4s summer tire for my Bmw
@moffo2626
3 жыл бұрын
Hey how has that served you? Are you planning to use them for year round or strictly summer?
@michaelschneider-
3 жыл бұрын
@@moffo2626 ... Don't even think about snow,, when fitted with Pilot Sport A/S 3+. .. Downright scary! .. The A/S 3+ is a 3 season performance tire after all. . Big Michelin Fan.. Bring on the Pilot Alpin winter M/S.
@ghostwrench2292
3 жыл бұрын
Good review! I had put new P/S A/S 3+ on my car last May and found out late summer about the new A/S 4. I am now in the market for new tires on my wife's car. Currently has Primacy MXM4 which have been pretty nice but I want to try the A/S 4 on her car. We don't drive hard, I just want the performance to be there when I need to be.
@K03sport
3 жыл бұрын
... I disliked the MXM4 as the OE tire on my 04 GTI. To me, it was a 5or6 out 10 tire. Nothing real exciting to write home about. I replaced (after 40k miles) with then PS A/S3 which was a better tire imo.
@glenwoodriverresidentsgrou136
3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. I wonder if the slightly softer ride quality and slightly more sluggish steering response of the newer tire were due to the comparison being between a brand new tire with full tread depth and a worn tire with minimal tread. Tread blocks deflect under load, and the deeper the tread the more the deflection. I had a similar experience when I replaced my Michelin Pilot Super Sports with a set of Pilot Sport 4 S (though some reviewers note the PSS is the stiffer of the two when both are new). If you don’t need snow traction, the PS4S is a good way to go.
@mrpratster
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, you are close to me.. That's 680 south towards Fremont. Bad road for sure. Thanks for the review.
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
Good eye! Yup, that's 680 alright.
@danielheyward8818
2 жыл бұрын
Just got a set for my 370z. GREAT VID!!
@efthimios
3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to put them on my 2011 335 xdrive next week!!! Hope wakes up driving feel after I had some cheapentires on it
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
How do you like them? Thank you.
@Twobarpsi
3 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@The1Karking
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job 👍🏼 Thanks
@gust9464
3 жыл бұрын
Great video. One thing to mention is the 4S is made in Mexico & the 3+ is made in USA 🤷🏽🤔
@gregmihm4461
3 жыл бұрын
Nice job, good information
@louis0531oogle
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the feedback. I just realized that my wife's Ford Escape AWD vehicle needs to have the same tread depth because of the AWD feature on this SUV. Consequently, since she had tire damage to one of her tires I'm comparing the difference in circumference between the AS3+ and the AS4 before I replace the two rear tires. My tolerance seems to be between 2/32nd and 4/32nd's in tread depth on the set of "like" tires... so, a lot of good food for thought. Thanks again!
@devellwilson7099
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@kevinpowell329
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!.
@christiangandolfo1107
3 жыл бұрын
Have literally been waiting for a review like this for weeks, I too have the A/S 3+ tires needing replaced and been debating getting the new A/S 4 or sticking with the 3+. Thank you for the detailed differences and impressions.
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Meekmillan
3 жыл бұрын
What'd you end up going with?
@christiangandolfo1107
3 жыл бұрын
@@Meekmillan the pilot sport 4, very pleased. Performance they are as good as the 3+ if not better. Very sticky tires for all seasons! I will say the 4 is noticeably softer than the 3+ was.
@HowardOchs
3 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic review, thank you! I lived in San Diego for decades, so am aware of the driving environment in California. I’m now in Maine, of course a drastically different environment. But I too am replacing AS3’s and this was so helpful to me that you compared the two tires. Much of what you tested will translate over the two environments. I do run Blizzaks in winter, although I sometimes get caught in snow with my all seasons. It’s an old WRX, so not a problem there. Gosh, I was so pleased with my AS3’s and I could easily (and legally pass inspection) for a couple more seasons but like with so many tires, they tend to get hard and lose a certain feel at around half life. They are wearing great, still balance well, etc., but I want max pleasure so I’m ordering a new set of the AS4’s as a birthday gift to myself and a 15th birthday present to the old Subie! Thanks again for the timely review and nice BMW! Much too nice for my neck of the woods!
@joseochoa7043
3 жыл бұрын
@@christiangandolfo1107 Would you consider putting AS4’s on a Toyota Highlander?
@tomcruise11880
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison on these two tires. A nice advice on buying guide. Mines are A/S 3+, 245/40/R18, 265/35/R18, with 35000 miles service life so far, still work fine, it's just kinda worn out. I also have test drive there on Niles Canyon Rd., that's why I found it a little familiar : ))
@FaRKle0079
2 жыл бұрын
Sharp eye!
@johnungvarsky8875
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks you! Timely because I’ve been recommending the 4 just based on Michelin’s recent success when they have introduced upgraded models. Thanks for the data and impressions confirming that! I’m sure the 4’s are quieter but I also wonder if some of the measured noise improvement is due to having full depth new tread as a cushion? TireRack had a firesale on 3+. Time to stalk local C&C’s to find someone with a new set. Or just hack local tire shipping records. Oops, probably shouldn’t have said that out loud. 😀 Looking forward to the sequel video “FaRKle! does Tahoe! Tire Tests In Snow! ❄️
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
Another contributor to the noise reduction could be the tread pattern. The AS4 has a lot more grooves that are angled more longitudinally along the tire whereas the AS3+ they're really all perpendicular to the tire.
@ImportDomestic2006
Жыл бұрын
Those are the same Michelin pilot sport all season 4’s I have on our Infiniti Q70L and our 2021 Challenger R/T scat pack widebody shaker. Considering that I live on the high Desert here in Albuquerque New Mexico. Temperatures can dip below 28° and can be as high as 98° on a hot summer day. These Michelin tires are truly performing exceptional regardless of the outside temperature. Don’t forget the New C8 Corvette comes in a run flat A.k.a. zero pressure Michelin.
@antoinepageau8336
Жыл бұрын
I've been using the AS3 on my BMW 3 series and the AS4 on my Lexus GS. I thought the AS4 on the GS drove much softer than the AS3 on the BMW but I'm now realizing that it has a lot more to do with the suspension and tuning than the tire (in my case). I was worried about replacing the Primacy MXM that came on my Tesla model 3 with the AS4 but thanks to your video I think it'll be fine.
@tyty0071
2 жыл бұрын
280 South near San Francisco, I used to drive this road EVERY DAY for nearly 10 years.
@hurleywilson7246
2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison.
@slscamg
3 жыл бұрын
They said that these tires have a more pliable tread but the actual base that the tread is attached to a stiffer. That retains the handling characteristics but allows the tire to better cope with snow traction. That might be why they feel like they have a softer sidewall.
@jedd1004
3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I was curious about road noise, I found my AS3+ (255-35-19) to be noisy. I am now trying Firestone Indy 500's and they're definitely quieter. I may try these when I'm due again.
@gamene99ablackmage60
3 жыл бұрын
How do they compare to the as3+ in dry and wet plz? :)
@MrDrProfPatrick12
3 жыл бұрын
Looking for new tires on my 2013 S4 and was trying to decide between these two. Thank you for an excellent video!
@leveraged6694
3 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely worth spending extra money on a good tire. I bought some cheap tires on tirerack and the drone of the tires was horrible.
@aaronfrench8322
Жыл бұрын
And safety…
@revnto7k
2 жыл бұрын
I have had A/S3 and A/S3+ and I should probably just go with the A/S4 but I still find the ride is a tad bit harsh with them. (the older models) Although it looks like the A/S4 is better in that regard as well. Great comparison thanks for taking your time to make this one.
@benhaze1010
Жыл бұрын
I also have the AS3+ and they are really harsh. I am hesitant about giving Michelin another chance for all season high performance tires...
@sweeney5296
3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jondotcom8706
2 жыл бұрын
1000th 👍 Just need to decide between this or the continental
@chasberndt2255
3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear they seem more quiet. My only issue with the AS3+ was the dull roar of road noise, esp at around town speeds of 35-45 mph.
@marktepper3440
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 GTI and they seem quiet to me. They are great handling tires, absolutely no regrets. So much better than the horrible Bridgestone Potenza tires that came with the car.
@chasberndt2255
3 жыл бұрын
@@marktepper3440 I had them on a 2017 GTI (sold). They were great tires, just more noisy than the Hankooks the car came with.
@lluda44
Жыл бұрын
They are pretty awful in snow, and are noisy, but excellent on everything else.
@smilesmile787
3 жыл бұрын
you are a bmw driver, you are not supposed to signal on lane changes.
@Jorge-125
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Zukuri620
Жыл бұрын
Technically if you can afford a BMW or Mecerdes, you literally own the road, and you don't have to obey any traffic laws at all.
@steffenfrost
3 жыл бұрын
Great film presence. Can't wait for those tires to be available for the Tesla Model 3 Performance, which need the 235/35 R20 size. The sidewall protecting the rims is the primary benefit for me.
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
Wow 20"? I didn't know the Model 3s came with wheels that large.
@sakethballa36t
2 жыл бұрын
I switched from an AS3+ 255/35/18 on the front for an E90 335i to a AS4 245/35/18 (to limit some rubbing). I immediately noticed how much more comfort-leaning the AS4's were. They did have really good grip but they had significantly less feel and worse initial turn in. If you were to turn the steering wheel less than 5 degrees or so, you almost get no response out of the AS4 until they load up. I think I'm about 5 months and maybe around 5k miles into AS4 ownership give or take and I can't take them anymore for this car. I am switching from the AS4's to a set of AS3+'s that I have sourced. The E90 has a fantastic hydraulic steering rack (I upgraded to the M3 one as well) and the AS4 takes the fun out of it. Furthermore, the AS3+ tends to add a little more sport to the sports-luxury feel that is the BMW E90 platform which is appreciated. The AS3+ just has a superior steering feel that the AS4 and most of the UHP AS tires cannot match.
@ravdeepsingh5298
Жыл бұрын
couldn't agree with you more man
@mrphotomanTIM
3 жыл бұрын
you have to remember though, you were used to driving on the worn tires so the new ones will seem dramatically quieter. the softer sidewall feel is due to tread squirm compared to the worn tread on the old tires.
@tedtedness184
3 жыл бұрын
Unless you test the same amount of wear you DON"T have a viable test. PERIOD. This test is basically worthless.
@michaelschneider-
3 жыл бұрын
@@tedtedness184 ... Easy there Teddy.. The tire comparison wasn't suggesting an empirical test. . User's of Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires are grateful for this casual tire comparison. . Performance tires are worth every penny.
@sszhao11
3 жыл бұрын
Got AS4 for the GTI, lower noise and softer than firestone indi500s. For daily it's perfect if you don't track the car. While summer tire is great on track, road noise was terrible and too hard for daily. AS4's Smoother and quieter ride can let you drive faster for highway and have more grip over uneven surfaces
@edwardrios1154
3 жыл бұрын
I just picked some up for my Gti, definitely better grip over stock tires
@edwardrios1154
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ayeitsscott well 6 months later, they are alright. I’m tuned stage 2 e85 and they’ll spin in 1 st and 2nd. They grip great for all seasons, I don’t have a comparison with a summer tire, but they are pretty okay. If you want more grip, look elsewhere.
@edwardrios1154
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ayeitsscott agreed brother, look into the new continental hoosier tires, they look promising
@dizzle0_0
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm having them installed today.
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
How do you like them? Thank you
@jasonbrenner7184
Жыл бұрын
AS4s on a rear wheel drive BMW perform better than my previous AWD car with Pirelli. No traction loss in heavy rain and they absorb all the bumps in NYC and NJ even on 20s .
@jusrarsh4109
2 жыл бұрын
Just bought the AS4 after the AS3+, I like the traction feel so far, hopefully they last longer then my old AS3+ tires. Not cheap.
@heyaisdabomb
2 жыл бұрын
Not cheap, but what, it's like 0.5% the cost of your car? I tried my first set of AS3+ a year ago, and I see why everyone says once you go to the pilot sport series tires, you never go back.
@Placebo201
Жыл бұрын
Definitely an expensive product but worth every penny
@shawnseeley9561
3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I've gone through two sets of the AS3's on my GTI and it's time for replacements. I was slightly concerned the AS4 might not be as good of a tire, but you've helped put my mind at ease.
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
How did you like the AS3's? I need new tires for the Audi S4 and I wanted the S4's but they are summer only tire. Thank you,
@shawnseeley9561
3 жыл бұрын
@@EEEBA1 Think of the as3 as a summer tires with a compound that tolerates temps below 40f. I always ran a dedicated winter tire December through March because the as3 is scary if there's more than a skiff of snow and you want to brake or turn.
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnseeley9561 Hmm... Interesting. They advertise it as a all season tire. Where I am it gets to 20-30 degrees in the winter.
@shawnseeley9561
3 жыл бұрын
@@EEEBA1 I live in Colorado. Definitely ok for 20-30f, but when there's snow on the ground you can forget about it.
@EEEBA1
3 жыл бұрын
@@shawnseeley9561 I see. Thank you. It's hard to find all season tires lately. My car is all wheel drive but I still need something good for the snow.
@dingomanz7
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@E.T.GARAGE
3 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking of AS4 on my 90 C4 Corvette
@DaneFerolin
3 жыл бұрын
I have the AS3+ on a q50, they are awesome
@projecxbuilds9580
3 жыл бұрын
I’m putting them on my Rays either Monday or Tuesday
@StlPike2004
3 жыл бұрын
Same here, makes the car drive 10x better than with the shitty stock runflats
@rellguapo5175
3 жыл бұрын
I was looking for some one with a Q50 review ! 👍🏽 I'm about to buy the AS3+ now, Costco has a sale🕺🏽🤣
@jeffdurling100
3 жыл бұрын
I have run AS3+ for quite a while on my vehicles and will move to the AS4 when they wear out. One thing, not trying to be critical. To get a proper comparison between ride, noise, and grip the only way to really do it is with a set of new tires with the same wear on them. New tires will typically feel software and quieter just due to there being more tread. As the tread wears down most tires, especially asymmetrical tires, tend to get noiser. None will ever be as bad as Eagle F1's, the worst performance tires I have ever tried, but either way the treads block, as there is less of a water channel, magnify road noise more. I am not trying to dampen your review, which was excellent. I am just wanted to put that out there it is the only way to get a proper comparison between tires.
@rodpaine7552
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent points! I am running AS3+ 245/40/18 on our 2019 RS 3, after having failures within several weeks with stock 235/35/19 Conti ExtremeContact tires and our VA country back road runs at speed and their now poor surface conditions due to poor maintenance that caused sidewall failures. The side wall height of the 235/35/19 simply didn't survive such hits! Now with 12,320 miles on the AS3+ I will replace them with the AS4 before winter sets in and we' will make many back road runs in the spring. We run 80-100 miles per trip 3 times a week weather permitting, so our 'back road' use is considerable compared to most drivers, given we run these roads an average 12k miles per year and have for quite a few years. The PRIMARY reason we bought the Audi RS 3!
@gracemalley6821
Жыл бұрын
The quiet ride is more a component of old verse new tires. Basically new tires have more rubber between the road and the steel belting in the tire. Also, the human ear perceives a change in volume (sound) between 3 to 5 dBs. Hope this helps!
@Jasiel.95
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment. That’s not something I would’ve thought, but obvious.
@hectorrivera5230
3 жыл бұрын
hi. How is the road noise so far since you have had tires. Great video by the way!!
@jruerph
3 жыл бұрын
Good review...just purchased the 20in AS4 tires for the rear on my Panamera thru Simple Tire via ebay for $100 cheaper per tire than the AS3+. For whatever reason Simple Tire didn't offer the AS4 tire as an option for my vehicle thru their website. I only found out they were an option thru searching Discount Tire. Maybe Simple Tire is trying to get rid of the remaining AS3+ tires first before offering/promoting the AS4s. The reviews seem to be very good for both tires but I was curious as to what the difference between the two are.
@miata1370
2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated your review..and especially in your BMW Sportwagon..I previously had. '15 F31 that I had replaced the o.e. run flats with Continental ExtremeContact DWS (older version). Appears from your comments, you're also familiar with the Conti DWS tire and have chosen to stay with the Michelin. Would love more commentary on the Michelin / Continental UHP All Season comparisons. Am debating now between the two for my MINI Roadster S...which is coming off Continental DW Sport summer tires but I want more spring/fall driving capability in my colder Midwest climate.
@FaRKle0079
2 жыл бұрын
Yup, I've had DWS06 and ExtremeContact Sports on this car. The DWS06 has a much softer sidewall and I needed higher pressures to get good feedback. The DWS06 were definitely better offroad (dirt/gravel roads) than the Michelins, but both I can maintain good speeds. I think the DWS06 felt a bit more confident in heavy water too.
@kelseywinter-troutwine1928
2 жыл бұрын
I came from a P Zero and these Michelins are loud! But holy hell the grip is insane. I put these on a mk7.5 gti & I cannot get the wheels to spin as easily. They just lock up!
@SuperDv8
2 жыл бұрын
The 1st windy road looks like Carbon Canyon Road. Looking at getting some a/s 4’s soon
@MartinBrownH
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. Have you noticed a difference in range / gas mileage?
@chrisnamaste3572
3 жыл бұрын
Notwithstanding the worn vs new issue; I conxur with your conclusions. I think the AS4s are floatier than the AS3+. I actually prefer the grab the road feel of the AS3+ because I don't live in a snow climate.
@sakethballa36t
2 жыл бұрын
1000% agree. Switching back to the AS3+'s for just this reason.
@thesolislife9422
3 жыл бұрын
I just installed these on my Cadillac CTS and they are great. They are definitely worth it. I was gonna go with the Goodyear eagle sport all season but after some research I went with the Michelin’s. I noticed a difference in sound on the highway but nothing y’all grown men can’t handle.
@WheresTheAnyKey1
3 жыл бұрын
hmm, can't wait to see more tests. I have the AS3+ and they're great in most weather but not good enough in cold snow weather (talking 0 deg here). 10% improvement? probably negligible honestly. Dunno about performance in 32 deg snow though, but the performance is not confidence inspiring in zero deg weather with a small (1 inch layer of snow). I'll definitely check these out as a good all season tire though cause the AS3+ are great
@cchen4754
3 жыл бұрын
Just bought As3 to replace my Pirellis that came with my ecoboost mustang.
@brettsisley4058
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review. Question: On the car, is there a big difference in the appearance of the sidewall/carcass shape between the AS3+ and the AS4? Definitely going w/the AS4 in rear. But current Michelin offerings force me to select either the AS3+ in the size I need, or the AS4 +10 in section width. Thanks.
@FaRKle0079
3 жыл бұрын
One of our other cars has A/S 3+ on it so I took a look and the sidewalls of the A/S 3+ and AS4 look very similar. Where there's a bit of difference is in the shoulder, but it's pretty small.
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