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@jackb.1841
6 жыл бұрын
hallo - to nie jest sowiecki Mig 17 - to jest polski LIm 6 bis wyprodukowany w Polsce/POLAND/ Lim6 BIS.
@Alex1948ist1
5 жыл бұрын
@@jackb.1841 Польша делала Миг-17 по лицензии или спиздила.
@jackb.1841
5 жыл бұрын
@@Alex1948ist1 Zgadza sie, , licencja Mig 17, ale samolot LiM 6 bis jest konstrukcja polska, wyprodukowana w Mielcu. Rozni sie od Miga wyposazeniem i lekkimi zmianani w konstrukcji.
@gregg4164
7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful machines. It amazes me that some of the most amazing machines man makes are killing machines.
@xyrokhan
6 жыл бұрын
Designed by Devil
@CESSNATURBO
5 жыл бұрын
If you want to built the good plane - you must have the good enemy)
@rogerhonore
5 жыл бұрын
@@xyrokhan LOL
@pedrosabino8751
4 жыл бұрын
@@xyrokhan Or by an angel 😍. Get a plane and put a machine gun in it.
@oceanhome2023
4 жыл бұрын
As Patton said “ Next to War all other endeavors pale in comparison !” I Hate War but I love studying it. !
@pauldavidson6321
4 жыл бұрын
That F 86 in natural metal finish is simply stunning to look at !
@brucemckenzie1837
4 жыл бұрын
Old is gold...Vietnam MIG 17's put up a great fight against more modern US planes in the war here
@loicalex
Жыл бұрын
The MiG-17 might have the best looking silhouette of all aircrafts... Only followed by the F86. Stunning beasts
@earthsciteach
5 жыл бұрын
I didn't appreciate the Mig-15-19 lineage until I saw the Heavy Metal demo team perform with this Mig-17 in Lancaster, PA a few years ago. This in an amazing cold war fighter! My heart flutters whenever I see a video of it. Such beauty and power!
@gordonipock9385
2 жыл бұрын
The MiG-17 held its own against super-sonic US fighters in Vietnam. Got a number of kills against T-105s Thunderchiefs, F4 Phantoms and Corsairs. It was more maneuverable than these faster planes and got the kills sub-sonic with guns.
@gordonipock9385
2 жыл бұрын
The MiG-17 held its own against super-sonic US fighters in Vietnam. Got a number of kills against T-105s Thunderchiefs, F4 Phantoms and Corsairs. It was more maneuverable than these faster planes and got the kills sub-sonic with guns.
@edloco2613
5 жыл бұрын
That's some cool camo for my MIG-17 in WT
@alexshmrx61-74
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@Andrewsafb71
9 жыл бұрын
Great company name. Air Show Stuff A.S.S.
@singitslyrics5216
6 жыл бұрын
AndrewsA-F-B21 yeah that name
@theverminator8048
4 жыл бұрын
Its not a company name its a channel name
@boskocrnobrnja6659
4 жыл бұрын
@@theverminator8048 He implied if ever the owner of the channel (or somebody else) makes a company that it will have a great name.
@73THUNDERDOME73
3 жыл бұрын
I love ASS 🥺
@johnbockelie3899
3 жыл бұрын
F86 Saber jet , Mig 15, two old warbirds from The Korean war. 1950- 1953.
@A7OM1CS
5 жыл бұрын
this was some good footage. love both of these planes so much. modern jets may be vastly more powerful with huge strides in technology, but you cant beat the sophisticated look of korean war era jets
@davegeisler6668
6 жыл бұрын
In Vietnam the pilots in the north actually preferred the Mig 17 over the Mig 19 and the slash and dash speed of the Mig 21 with their Atolls. That says alot about its dogfighting capabilities. We had are hands full with that enemy jet for sure. Even the F100 , Thuds and F4 Phantom had to have their head on a swivel and watch out for those pesky 17s.
@CESSNATURBO
5 жыл бұрын
And about MiG-15. It was the "Black Thursday" for USA: the loudest victory of the russian pilots in Korea. 12-th of April, 1951. 48 MiG-15 against 28 American B-29 bombers under cover of 80 fighters. Just google it. All of our planes returned to the base. Only the couple of MiGs needed to be repaired - technicians just patched holes in their wings. Excuse my terrible English, Sir)
@Intrusive_Thought176
11 ай бұрын
@@CESSNATURBOthen the sabre went to take out 750 migs 😂
@flugjung
2 жыл бұрын
Both are beautiful masterpieces. Amazingly born with a lot of German engineering behind.
@benjaminanibalmanzoni3655
2 жыл бұрын
Kurt Tank designes...
@DJEDzTV
4 жыл бұрын
MIG + Russian pilot, is the best formula
@kaksidaksi3455
3 жыл бұрын
no mercedes has the best formula
@beetlusjuicus4013
3 жыл бұрын
Laughs in corvette formula
@dundabird3203
2 жыл бұрын
for defeat
@DJEDzTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@dundabird3203 not seen any Russian MiGs in this war, they stick to using su-25m and su-30/34/35. Ukrainians have mig-29’s.
@petersmythe6462
5 жыл бұрын
The MiG is not called a 'Fresco'. That's a NATO reporting name.
@user-ib1im6gd1i
2 жыл бұрын
Красиво, завораживает , смотрел на одном дыхании !
@ryanhampson673
4 жыл бұрын
If it was a Soviet trained pilot in that MiG the Sabre pilot would have to earn his money that day...The Koreans and the Chinese didn’t fly the airframe to the envelope like the Soviet pilots did. Pilot training and absolute understanding of what your aircraft can and cannot do makes you victorious.
@olegmuha7146
5 жыл бұрын
МиГ-17 имеет еще большую тяговооружённость по сравнению с МиГ-15, которому Сейбр проигрывал вертикаль в чистую. Так что этот "бой", чисто потешить западную публику. Тут уместнее сравнивать МиГ-17 и F-90 Супер сейбр.
@CESSNATURBO
5 жыл бұрын
Ну это же для публики, сам понимаешь)
@GethGaming
5 жыл бұрын
F-100*
@user-uv7nh7dd7f
4 жыл бұрын
Мой дядя воевал в Корее. Служил зенитчиком. Защищали какой-то мост через реку. Боинги их бомбили. Имел серьезную контузию. Но все таки мост отстояли. Там говорил постоянные бои сейбры с мигами вели. Выпустил маленькую книгу на якутском языке. Якутов там много служило, так как похожи внешне китайцам, корейцам. Форма китайская у них была. В Чите все документы забрали. Погибших хоронили в Порт-Артуре. Наверно Покрышкин летал на таких мигах над ними.
@michalisfakiolas8986
4 жыл бұрын
Oleg Muha i
@user-dd8wh2fb9t
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/2nx4qIFtfqmGZHo Oleg Muha
@janettemolina7948
4 жыл бұрын
Hermosisimos los aviones de los años 60 ,bien conservados ,los f-86 ,mig 17 y 21 ,Fiat G91 ,Sukoy 22,eran bellisimos estos aviones.
@xlotyliciux
3 жыл бұрын
In reality the MiG-17 vastly out-performed the F-86 ... a fact that gave the Soviets the unexpected "gift" of gaining ten years' development in air-to-air missile tech: Taiwanese F-86 were modified to be able to launch early Sidewinder missile (AIM-9B) in order to bridge performance gap versus Chinese MiG-17/F-5. However, one failed to detonate... lodging in the fuselage of a MiG that managed to return to base with the missile almost completely intact.
@user-nu7ht6ht1g
5 жыл бұрын
Интересно, а у нас в стране есть хоть один "живой" не то что 17-й, а хотя-бы 25-й? Именно "живой", а не "мертвый" музейный экземпляр, одиноко стоящий под открытым небом? Чтобы был в состоянии произвести взлёт и посадку? Вот и я о том же...
@victormanuelpolanco922
4 жыл бұрын
Still, two most gorgeous silhouettes in the sky with amazing flight characteristics. True show stoppers in their own right!!!.
@johnbockelie3899
3 жыл бұрын
Mig 15. Russian fighter plane of the 1950's. F86 Saber jet. 1950's U.S.A.F.
@GoodVideos4
5 жыл бұрын
It is said that the F-86 was a very stable jet. I was wondering how many F-86 Sabres are flying.
@Vladys-ZOV_88
Жыл бұрын
Красивый и надёжный МиГ17, в предполетную подготовку проверяли вооружение, сигнальный ракеты ЭКСР и заводили и устанавливали время на часах фотопулемет, из пушек почти не стреляли, бомбы иногда бросали на полигонах
@christopherbayne9061
4 жыл бұрын
The old Mig designs are super cool. Mig 15, 17, 21.
@Nimble_65
5 жыл бұрын
243 сбитых сейбра против 68 сбитых МиГов )))))))) Вьетнам показал какой самолет лучше! Про Корею вообще страшно говорить...
@user-iz7ff4ij2e
4 жыл бұрын
Ты чего курил?Сейбры в Наме не применялись
@doctorgradus3291
4 жыл бұрын
во Вьетнаме вообще-то были F-100 и фантом против 19 и 21 МиГов.
@Nimble_65
4 жыл бұрын
@@doctorgradus3291 спасибо что поправил))) я опять перепутал страны местами.
@snowblind9065
4 жыл бұрын
Man,a couple of real classics facing off ..what beauty and grace
@BelgianDneprGuy2003
5 жыл бұрын
ah i love myself some 1950's aircraft simulated dogfight. just shows how far we've come
@ChrisRyann1
9 жыл бұрын
Who was flying the F86 ??? Sylvester Stallone !!!!!
@tesoridellasia
5 жыл бұрын
Pakistan made history by best performance of sabre in 1965 war. Hitting 9 Indian hunters.
@Sonuthethinker
5 жыл бұрын
But brutally hit by Gnats
@glebz7294
5 жыл бұрын
To be honest it wasn't a dog fight. It would have been really cool to see the real effort of both pilots to get behind each other.
@Mandrak789
9 жыл бұрын
nice show in reality, f-86 would have hard time to keep up with mig-17 which was a lot more powerful machine
@charlie19988991
9 жыл бұрын
Mandrak789 sabre was a bit earlier than the mig-17 wich was an upgraded version of the mig 15 (the f86,s counterpart) i think the f-86 D or K version would be an equal to the mig-17.
@heatloss9536
9 жыл бұрын
charlie19988991 and the F, which had a better engine.
@saburusakai
9 жыл бұрын
+Mandrak789 The F-86H was its contemporary, but it would depend on the pilots in the long run.
@wesleymccurtain166
8 жыл бұрын
I hate to piss all over your party, but the instructors at TOP GUN and RED FLAG have proved over and again that training and tactics levels the playing field and have made fools of pilots in 30 million dollar high tech aircraft by knowing tactics, energy conservation of their aircraft, and just plain old flying hours. An American instructor at TOP GUN was quoted as saying if he were to go back in time, and fly for the Vietnamese Air Force with his training, he would shoot down a US jet every day every time. That is why such combat schools exist and why all of our Allies come too.
@saburusakai
8 жыл бұрын
wesley mccurtain I tend to agree mostly, as I said above, 'but it would depend on the pilots in the long run.' But the cost and effectiveness still depends on the aircraft as well. Our pilots are gonna suffer terribly if htey are forced to go into air to air combat wiht the F-35; it gets its ass beat against F-16s. Our guys need more F-22s, though pilot training is the most important consideration. The AVG did pretty well in China with P-40Cs, but they's have done much better with P-51Ds. I pretty much agree with yuo though.
@user-fv3py3ur2i
7 жыл бұрын
Just put russian pilot to the mig, and give him bottle of vodka, and let the fight begin.
@tigara1290
5 жыл бұрын
He hit all shots and ruanium boolits delet kapitalist enemy instantly and plane take no damage because of stronk stalinium paint
@user-ho6op8fj7l
5 жыл бұрын
Russian pilot drunk after a fight over the Yankees destroyed
@sniper9786
5 жыл бұрын
" Iz good comrade I've done it before "
@nikitavasilev6904
5 жыл бұрын
Дело говоришь! Btw. I accept donations in vodka boxes or in other drinks with alcohol more than 40 degrees.
@ShopeeMarketteam
5 жыл бұрын
Sabre: Wtf i can't even guns the guy
@petersmythe6462
5 жыл бұрын
Also, in actual dogfights the MiG generally won this. Quite simply, the MiG-15 was already at an advantage against the F-86 in most ways. The MiG-17 absolutely outclassed it.
@bladerunner5810
4 жыл бұрын
@Mars Exulte Smythe has a point. MiG-17 top speed was over 900mph. No F-86 was ever that fast. The F-100 was as fast as the MiG-17 but was much larger and less maneuverable. US Air Force had pilots superior to the Chinese and North Korean dolts it usually faced in Korea, which accounted for they superior kill ratio vis a vis the MiG-15. Experienced Russian pilots at the time were their equal in the MiG-15. In the MiG-17 they would have had total air superiority against the F-86. The US has always compromised itself in that regard by saddling its air superiority fighters with multi-role ambitions and reliance on questionable high tech weaponry. The F-4, a very large and heavy aircraft, was not equipped with a Vulcan cannon for many months during the Viet Nam conflict and relied upon unreliable Sidewinder missiles in dogfights with the MiG17 and MiG-21. I have always felt this cost more than a few F4 crew members their lives. Basically....Soviet and US fighter aircraft of the 50s and 60's are apples and oranges when it comes to comparison.
@arctifire5709
4 жыл бұрын
the mig-17 completely outclasses the sabres in every aspect
@raynic1173
2 жыл бұрын
@@arctifire5709 If memory serves...the first two years the Sabre was a problematic aircraft. I think it was considered a "widow maker" for the first two versions. One of the problems was flame outs I believe. My dad was a Sabre mechanic in the '50s. I remember him telling us of fork lifts pushing new engines, still in their packing crates, off the deck of the carrier in to the Atlantic.
@k.h.1587
Жыл бұрын
@@bladerunner5810 mig 17 couldn't do 900, that would have been supersonic which the mig 17 wasn't.
@meandr51
Жыл бұрын
Please note that the MIG-17 was already in service with the USSR during the Korean War, but was not supplied to China and Korea.
@user-ci6jz1ph4s
5 жыл бұрын
Вьетнам показал все . Кто из этих самолетов имел превосходство
@Mohenjo-Daro
4 жыл бұрын
Бля, чувак, только хотел написать что Вьетнам показал что по чем..... Тебе лайкос.
@cheshkovalex
4 жыл бұрын
не Вьетнам, а Корея
@kontenent
4 жыл бұрын
Александр А.МИГ -15 не воевал во вьетнаме
@olg88
4 жыл бұрын
@@kontenent во Вьетнаме воевало пво
@kontenent
4 жыл бұрын
Oleg Che.В пво входили и авиационные части,с МИГ-17,19 и 21
@Bb4r
5 жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to have had a Mig 15 available for this demonstration, as the Mig 15 was the actual contender to the F-86 during the Korean War. I think the F-86 would have had a time keeping pace with the Mig 17. In any evet, a very nice video.
@meandr51
Жыл бұрын
Please note that the MIG-17 was already on duty with the USSR during the Korean War, but was not supplied to China and Korea.
@guyjonson6364
4 жыл бұрын
The MIG has my favor
@majorpayne402
5 жыл бұрын
Аааааа как классно, в War Thunder летал на Миг 15 Бис ИШ, так понравилось) А тут с разных ракурсов реальный Миг оооооо ещё и камуфляж красивый
@WorivpuqloDMogh
Жыл бұрын
The camo is absolutely kick ass bro. One of the best i have ever seen
@user-sb4sf5cu6n
Жыл бұрын
Indeed both, they are beautiful, like young cheerful small birds. Thank you for your nice movie.
@RaymondPexton
21 күн бұрын
Paint job on the mig 17 is perfect
@diljithayre9379
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful aircraft and such a wonderful colour scheme
@WLADESMO100
5 жыл бұрын
🇧🇷I was admiring the beauty of both the MiG and the Saber ... until the P-51 appeared!! 😛😍
@pedrosabino8751
4 жыл бұрын
Muito lindo né?!
@user-ek3ng8zn7p
5 жыл бұрын
Там где Миги эфкам не просто!
@iridium24bit
7 жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Two legendary beasts
@Kryptik33
5 жыл бұрын
2 of the coolest planes ever made performing at the same time at an air show! Beautiful😍
@jamshedkenjaev1999
2 жыл бұрын
Просто красавец !!!!
@offutt
10 жыл бұрын
These guys were at Oshkosh this year and it was awesome to see them chase each other
@jackb.1841
7 жыл бұрын
Trzeba to sprostowac - to nie jest rosyjski MIg17Fresco - jak to pisza Rosjanie z duma! TO JEST POLSKI LIM6BIS WYPRODUKOWANY W POLSCE W MIELCU W LATACH 60 I LATAJACY W PULKACH MYSLIWSKO-SZTURMOWYCH ,NR511 ,NA KONCU LATAL W 45pulku szkolnym i stad zostal sprzedany do USA .POLSKI SAMOLOT !!!!!!!!
@DJEDzTV
7 жыл бұрын
To jednak cos Ruscy dali polaczkam, jezeli w polsce sie budowalo Rosijskie MIGi...
@CarlosSantos-gc8uy
4 жыл бұрын
Its impressiv see to fighters flew together two Rivals from Korea to Vietnam and to The Cold War thanks for sharing your passion and beautiful machines to use from Carlos Portugal
@lotlot6058
4 жыл бұрын
Красивый миг .
@Megalodon64
8 жыл бұрын
They should do this with the F-4 and MIG-17. I would pay to see it.
@AirshowStuffVideos
8 жыл бұрын
+Megalodon64 Ask and you shall receive. Unfortunately not in HD, though. kzitem.info/news/bejne/uI6k2oWchpepl4I
@RePlayBoy101
8 жыл бұрын
+Megalodon64 why the f4
@thefrecklepuny
8 жыл бұрын
+RePlayBoy101 I guess because the MiG-17 took on F-4's over the skies of Vietnam.
@RePlayBoy101
8 жыл бұрын
thefrecklepuny mig21s were present too so...
@sheevpalpatine7588
8 жыл бұрын
+Megalodon64 or the f-8 and mig17
@bradsexton2315
4 жыл бұрын
F-86 Sabre my favorite of the early jetfighter age.
@thomaslocke3939
3 жыл бұрын
My understanding is both the MiG-15 and the F-86 could go into supersonic dives but only the Sabre could pull out of one, and that there were several instances of a Sabre pilot getting a Fresco pilot to go into one and then the Sabre pilot pulled out and watched Ivan auger in.
@Suda-Idi
5 ай бұрын
stupid
@jacksonspencer2707
6 жыл бұрын
Way too many people in the comments assuming the Mig is an automatic winner. The Mig is technologically superior yes, but there are many more factors in a real fight than wing-loading, G rating, ect.. Recall that even a MiG-25 brought down an F-18!
@ergunylmaz5877
4 жыл бұрын
I am Türk . I love russıa and russıan people.ı love putın.great leader
@FatalTaco
7 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a MiG in such a fancy ass camo. Awesome!
@clearcreek69
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The MiG will stick out in a lush green forrest yet will blend in with a large group of zebras.
@JLamont45
Жыл бұрын
Those Mig 17’s sure burn clean. Surprising
@craigpennington1251
6 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Those MIGs just are wicked looking.
@user-wo9ro8kf5r
9 жыл бұрын
Sabre VS Mig. - i saw just flight - not a dogfight if you suppose yo say with thish video that MIG is loose to Saber - place to cocpict proper pilot
@stratdaddy
6 жыл бұрын
Илья Чеха lol
@petererlbacher2740
6 жыл бұрын
MIG-17 zur damaligen Zeit ein tolles Jagdflugzeug. Einsatz gegen Erd-See- und Luftziele.👍
@jasmijnariel
2 жыл бұрын
The mig is such an *gly piece of cr*p on the ground.... but when it flies it completely changes into a gorgeous predator bird
@user-vm9ch6ee9c
2 жыл бұрын
مع الأسف كانت لدى العراق إعداد من هذه المقاتلات النادرة وكنا نفتخر بامتلاكها. ولكن ضاعت بل الغزو عام٣..٢ أتمنى ان نمتلك من هذه التحف النادرة ......
@thevoxofreason8468
6 жыл бұрын
I'm smiling like a kid at a toy store. This is too cool.
@user-xm9sk4zx7j
4 жыл бұрын
Меня одного удивляет , как трепетно на западе относятся к историческим аппаратам, создают клубы, восстанавливают технику, собирают кропотливо по частям, причем не только своих но и чужих стран, все работает и летает... Почему у нашей страны нет таких праздников, где бы наши летчики летали не только на исторических МИГах, но и на сейбрах, аэрокобрах... То что я вижу из восстановленного у нас, это сущие единицы... Даже музеи нашей славной авиации расположены не в ангарах как у них, а гниют под открытым небом, под снегом и дождем, и если что и работает то благодаря, нашим увлеченным волонтерам... Горько и обидно... А ведь такие праздники могли бы поднять и дух и репутацию нашей страны...
@user-tq9he7my1i
2 жыл бұрын
а знаешь почему?потому что элита из народа конченая мразтная гребущая под себя а желающая тратить нагребённое там на западе где всё для элит устроено шоколадно---потому что у нас не начни строить ---проще разворовать и свалить на запад---чем в этом мразтном обществе без справедливости но где вась вась волосатая рука рулит с школы задержаться---и ещё на этом фоне фанаты патриоты удивляют бычьей тупостью где как правило копни такого ---так сидит козлина у кормушки ---и душа его лежит под западный образ жизни сплошные собаки а не Чистые волки либо агнцы---даже вера и религия пропахана вдоль и поперёк фанатизмом и внешней стороной патритизмом а внутренней стороной продажной (я же для Деток гребу под себя)----всё этим пропахло от бабы в торговом центре де детки сгорели ---у которой своей ребёнок есть а мозгов что творит видимо нет---и так на всех уровнях --всё дело в Петре первом прорубившем окно в европу и извратившем слово РУсский превратившем его в слово римский имперец---как то так мыслю)
@payalnikk
Жыл бұрын
ситуация с накоплением экономического "жирка" у энтузиастов несколько разная
@joanadealbuquerque701
Жыл бұрын
Alo Jef what a machine you got there my best regards to you from Carlos Portugal
@CarlosSantos-gc8uy
3 жыл бұрын
Allo Jeff you are a guy with you no what you a hell off a pilot thanks Jeff from the bottom off my heart from Carlos Portugal
@scotted3140
7 жыл бұрын
That is a beautiful paint job on the Mig
@Wilma1529
4 жыл бұрын
What an outstanding paint job!
@user-nh3xj7kk2f
5 жыл бұрын
Жаль не наш пилот! Сейбр был бы в ауте.
@CESSNATURBO
5 жыл бұрын
Вообще никаких шансов. Saber - immediately a corpse) Immediately would be numb with horror) Russians are crazy pilots.
@olg88
4 жыл бұрын
только почему-то все миги в Америке и остались у частников в идеальной форме и один калека в россии
@senikza247
4 жыл бұрын
@@olg88 к примеру, после войны все истребители и остальные по приказу были уничтожены. Такой вот наш менталитет. А сейчас.... сейчас вот даже Новой Зеландии интересны наши самолеты, по их заказу нашли в болотах Карелии 4 И-16, восстановили в Новосибирске и отправили заказчику. А России это не надо (((
@user-100let
4 жыл бұрын
@@senikza247 Всё очень просто: всё, что связано с Советским Союзом - уничтожается.
@ethericboy
2 жыл бұрын
The Sabre and Mig 15 were almost evenly matched but the Mig 17 was/is superior
@cosmonautsergei1934
5 жыл бұрын
Jfc it’s two outdated planes “fighting” for an airshow it doesn’t matter how historically accurate or inaccurate the circumstances are it’s just an airshow feature for entertainment
@WMAcadet
5 жыл бұрын
The correct match up would be the MiG-15bis and the F-86E/F as that was how it was in the air war over North Korea. In the very early days of the war the F-86A was quickly sent over there but they were quickly replaced by the F-86E as production ramped up at North American and Canadair. The MiG-17 was not in service quickly enough to be used in Korea.
@herk1952
9 жыл бұрын
The MiG turned the smoke on in the turns so the F-86 could see him better. THAT AIN"T HAPPENING IN REAL COMBAT.
@9Apilot
8 жыл бұрын
+Larry Dickman That was to simulate a .50 cal induced bleed air leak.
@stratdaddy
6 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@user-ds8zo8rk8p
6 жыл бұрын
Наши миги опередили на несколько лет этих сейбров по характеристикам, американцы не смогли сделать ничего лучше Сейбрз, а наши смогли
@user-yn4jw5rw4q
5 жыл бұрын
Ну я бы так не говорил сейбр у земли привосходит по ТТХ а миг высотный.
@user-no3wh9ge6j
5 жыл бұрын
Ну вообще то это ничем не подкреплённый пиздёж)) У сейбра большинство лтх превосходили мига
@user-yn4jw5rw4q
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-no3wh9ge6j как это может быть пиздеть если сами американцы говорили о превосходстве миг на высоте и миг по скороподьемности лучше был т.к был легче сейбр ,а ты говоришь по всем лтх лучше.
@user-no3wh9ge6j
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-yn4jw5rw4q я не говорил что по всем, но в ключевых лучше, себр был превосходен в ролле и дог файте, и что самое главное он был на порядок более технологичен
@user-yn4jw5rw4q
5 жыл бұрын
@@user-no3wh9ge6j чем щитками воздуха тормоза и дольнамером да не смеши прорыв технологии ))Я тебе написал на высоте превосходил миг сейбр на низах мог развивать скорость больше мига.
@TCOphox
4 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a Soviet tundra camo before and I think it looks really neat
@willymakeit5172
5 жыл бұрын
I can't decide which jet I love the most. The mig is so f'ing bad assed, but the F 86 is like a beautiful young woman in a red dress. Be still my beating heart.
@lukasethan6429
4 жыл бұрын
Weak. They didn’t use the MIGs strengths. It would outclimb the Sabre 2:1
@Yippiia
5 жыл бұрын
Idk why but that mig is outclassing the 86 in the looks department
@1har2vey3
4 жыл бұрын
The mig looks way cool but the Sabre seems to perform better.
@oceanhome2023
4 жыл бұрын
I used to dislike the MIGs as they seemed odd and quirky but I sure love them now !
@billhodges3097
2 жыл бұрын
You ever notice that both wings are boomerang shaped?
@javiersotelo981
6 жыл бұрын
AMO ESE MIG-17 QUE BELLEZA DE AVION
@sengdara5479
5 жыл бұрын
mig- 17 is beautifull jet
@rajpawar9343
5 жыл бұрын
F86 Sabre creates a tail of black smoke but later variants overcome this problem.
@hsinyeahuang8371
5 жыл бұрын
Love the mig.
@polygamous1
8 жыл бұрын
some comments are just out of context here this is just a show of great planes of past days anyway the Mig 15 n Sabre both had RR engines or a variation of the RR engine so if anything Britain won, even the Mustang was a good plane it only became really great after it was fitted with the RR Merlin engine
@arodrigues2843
7 жыл бұрын
polygamous1 Sozou The Sabre engine IS NOT a variation of a RR!!!
@maxwellharris9329
7 жыл бұрын
the very first air kill with air-to-air missiles involved a Taiwanese AIM-4 armed F-86 and it shot down a Chinese MiG-17 over the China Sea. A friend of mine actually met the Sabre pilot who fired that missile.
@user-em1of5vy6j
Жыл бұрын
Харрис врёт как извозчик
@Quyen99sky
4 жыл бұрын
vietnam people's air force used mig17 defeat F4, F105 US on vietnam war
@lancekoz
7 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed those things can fly safely after all these decades. Does anyone know what it's like to maintain these aircraft? Are the motors replaced? Original hydraulics? Do they have lots of issues or are they just made that well to begin with? Intrigues the heck out of me who can afford to own and keep these things airworthy.
@the1turkishskater
2 жыл бұрын
They can take 15 months to service I heard even ones that have had their parts checked and changed more recently. They leave the engine on without flying and check all the stuff I saw it the other day
@GUREVlCH
6 жыл бұрын
The Americans had to use the Sabre to combat the MiG-15, which it wasn’t even that effective against. So I’m going to have a hard time believing that it can destroy the upgraded, MiG-17.
@connerforbis1466
6 жыл бұрын
Gurevich What are you going on about? Sabres shot down many a MiG over Korea, not to mention Lavachkins (sorry I couldn't remember how to spell out the name for La's) and Tupolevs. They were all also shot down in numbers by Grumman aircraft, which were inferior to anything North American Aviation was putting out. The Soviets never had the technological edge on America, and they CERTAINLY weren't better trained.
@tilenstibilj3930
6 жыл бұрын
Conner Forbis So youre saying that the F-86 was better than the MiG? You just cant compare 2 aircraft designed with diffrent goals in mind.
@wasteofoxygen2198
6 жыл бұрын
Gurevich lmao the Sabre wasn’t effective against MiG-15? I may be thinking of something else but I’m pretty sure way more MiGs were shot down compared to F86s
@singitslyrics5216
6 жыл бұрын
Waste Of Oxygen ,please read more other history. Don't tell me you know that from somebody or youtube.
@justforever96
9 жыл бұрын
+MrCaptain450 How would using the F-86 with a gun in Vietnam have reduced losses? First, by *far*, the vast majority of US aircraft combat losses were to anti-aircraft fire and SAMs. How are guns going to help us there? Second, most air to air losses were F-100s or F-105's, etc, loaded down with bombs and flying subsonic. Both of these aircraft HAD guns. In fact, the only fighter I can think of in Vietnam that didn't have a gun is the Navy F-4 and early USAF F-4's. Those guns didn't help the F-105's, F-100s, A-4's that got shot down, even those that were shot down by fighters instead of AA fire! Lastly, I don't see how the answer to the problem our primary air-superiority fighter lacking guns is to send in a 20 year old fighter with worse performance than the slowest enemy fighter. Seriously, a MiG-17 is much more powerful, faster, better climbing, higher ceiling, and has better guns than an F-86, and a MiG-21 even more so! You seriously think it would have REDUCED losses to send the F-86 into Vietnam, just because it had a gun? Remember, most of the aircraft that were shot down DID have guns, and when fighters that had guns shot down the enemy, they almost always chose a missile instead. A gun is a useful thing to have, but it's not the primary weapon, and just having one isn't going to ensure victory...especially when the enemy can walk away at his leisure because your fighter can't keep up with his. He can pick and choose the time of engagement.
@wwclay86
5 жыл бұрын
@Doc Vega having the f-86 H take on the mig 17s would have been a good idea. 4 20 mm Cannon and sidewinders with well trained pilots would have spanked the mig 17s by beating them at their own game- close in dogfighting..
@DataWaveTaGo
6 жыл бұрын
Minor fuel/air mixture problem with the F-86?
@dion8442
5 жыл бұрын
Just turbojet things
@user-jr8gp2en9b
6 жыл бұрын
I loved aircrafts, especially the jet fighter aircrafts and they are swimming in my blood
@neil2905
6 жыл бұрын
Fuck me. Give that mig back it's red stars.
@AirshowStuffVideos
6 жыл бұрын
It's got 'em these days: kzitem.info/news/bejne/04KEzIeMgotiZ44
@isaaclouis4074
8 жыл бұрын
at 5:28 you can see a p-51 on the bottom left corner
@AirshowStuffVideos
8 жыл бұрын
+Epichero82 Good eye! Here's his performance: kzitem.info/news/bejne/13eYvKVnjZqAjY4
@isaaclouis4074
8 жыл бұрын
AirshowStuffVideos thanks
@trainedwarrior502
8 жыл бұрын
I saw a P-51 at 1:25.
@threelionstalk5550
6 жыл бұрын
No shit
@mellykiss2572
5 жыл бұрын
Is nice to see a dog fight between F 22 Raptor vs SU 57 😁
@jonathanhansen3709
6 жыл бұрын
The gunnery on both the Mig15 &17 was much more potent than the Korean War era F86. Two 23mm and one 38mm cannon on the Migs, compared to the six .50 caliber machine guns on the Saber. Wasn’t till later in the mid 50’s the Air Force changed the later Saber armament configuration to four much more effective 20mm cannons. The Navy F9F Panther, used extensively during the Korean conflict, was designed by Grumman with the four 20mm from the start.
@TimothyOakes
6 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember the name of the TV show but the Russian government let one of our pilots long ago test fly old MiGs like this up to fairly current MiGs and some Su’s. He was pretty impressed and joked with Russian pilots about wanting one on a trade.
@ALEXANDERCRETA1
Ай бұрын
Beautiful plane
@enricomosca4674
4 жыл бұрын
Top video quality. Anyway... I'd like to see a Phantom behind the Mig17.
@user-cy5bf3mo4j
6 жыл бұрын
Миг❤👏👏👏
@elikinder1506
4 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful plane
@dad5650
7 жыл бұрын
A MIG-15 is a better match, the 17 has an afterburner the Sabre does not.
@devildog3246
6 жыл бұрын
It has afterburners, but still can't go supersonic. The F-86 could hit Mach 1 in a drive without the tail breaking off, or it shaking apart unlike the MiG-17. The F-86 is also lighter and turns better. As far as top speed the MiG-17 isn't that much faster at all. This one's up to the pilots in the fight.
@xXGamingFactorXx
6 жыл бұрын
You're talking out of your ass, MiG's were known for their insane turning rate at corner speed, the MiG 17 is faster and accelerated better but both had severe risk of structural damage when approaching Mach 1 because those airframes just weren't built to go that fast, the MiG was built more to turn and retain it's energy, the Sabre was built to shoot a2a missiles and do quick in and out dives on their targets(yes the sabres did have a2a missiles, it was called the GAR-8 and scored the first ever a2a missile kill in the history of planes)
@jessiejameslow8906
5 жыл бұрын
@@devildog3246 -The MiG-17 is more manouvreable than the Sabre, that is an undisputed fact. The afterburner in the MiG allowed it to have sudden acceleration which the Sabre did not have. It was only when the F-4 appeared in the Vietnam skies did the US gain air superiority during the Vietnam war. But it was bittersweet because the F-4 only easily outmatched the MiG-17 but it was slightly outmatched by the newer MiG-21. However, luckily the N Vietnamese did not have enough MiG-21s to turn the tide of the air war in the theatre.
@georgivanev7466
5 жыл бұрын
Devildog You're talking absolute BS, we used to have MiG-17's in the Bulgarian Air Force and the plane can go supersonic in a small dive with ease...
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