Well, the phanthom is more agile. Doesn’t turn as fast, but the MiG loses all of his speed in a hard turn
@madaxe606
Жыл бұрын
Not even close. The Phantom is heavy AF. It has lots of thrust, and a higherr top speed, but a MiG-21 will easily outmaneuver an F-4 in a turning engagement.
@jacobjucker341
11 ай бұрын
@@madaxe606phantoms could outturn the mig21 at lower altitudes. They're surprisingly maneuverable at high speed.
@robiagacitei5487
10 ай бұрын
@@jacobjucker341 this isn't the 1915s anymore. almost no low altitude fights ever happen
@Optimaloptimus
9 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487They still happened over Vietnam.
@maxinewulf4195
8 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487Tell that to the veitnam pilots where a large majority *did*
@pyroman7550
7 ай бұрын
Bro did NOT do his research
@SilentButDudley
5 ай бұрын
Seeing the performance of F4 Phantoms in the Middle East versus MiG21s the answer is obvious.
@littlemenyt188
Жыл бұрын
F-4 would win
@tempist6970
Жыл бұрын
Fax i love both planes but the f4 is just more capable
@littlemenyt188
Жыл бұрын
i agree
@Camthefemboy986
Жыл бұрын
F4 was just better
@airderNI
Жыл бұрын
You clearly know nothing about the Vietnam war
@littlemenyt188
Жыл бұрын
@@airderNI i yeah i forgot
@field.556x45
Жыл бұрын
Depends on the payload of the planes. The F4 Has different Varients Such as the F4J, F4E. Althought the F4 Phantom's have Really Dogshit Turn rate. They can Be on hell of a nigtmare for Russian MiG's Due to the A-A Missiles.they can also be deadly on a Head-On Dog fight. The MiG in the other hand, can do Multiple manuevers easilly. But lack payload
@hemendraravi4787
Жыл бұрын
Early anti air missiles were horrible
@rhysgoodman7628
8 ай бұрын
“Dogshit turn rate” is definitely not accurate. The turn rate depends massively on airspeed and altitude. At low altitude and at speed, the F-4 will fly rings around the MiG-21. The boys at Top Gun discovered that, above 595kn, the MiG-21’s maneuvering ability was not very good, as its delta wing configuration would very quickly bleed off all of the speed. In other words, if the speed is kept up, the F-4 is superior in a turn fight.
@field.556x45
8 ай бұрын
@@rhysgoodman7628 but again, it depends on how the pilot handles it. So, whoever wins is decided on who pilots better the most.
@rhysgoodman7628
8 ай бұрын
@@field.556x45that is absolutely true.
@julianwroblewski9795
8 ай бұрын
Impressive, very nice! Now let's check their K:D ratio
@xekoan507
8 ай бұрын
millitary propaganda for mental motivation
@A_14761
7 ай бұрын
Actually, Soviet used to have more propaganda than the US did 🥴
@aurum5981
7 ай бұрын
@@xekoan507HAHAHAHAHAHA THATS WHY THEY CREATED FIGHTER WEAPONS SCHOOL RIGHT?
@Darkstar_Dayne
7 ай бұрын
In their own country while US feeds propaganda to the whole world@@A_14761
@sandels5805
5 ай бұрын
The mig 21s had more aerial victories. Ofcourse if you include mig 15s your gonna have a higher k:d.
@christopherchartier3017
8 ай бұрын
BVR capability, missiles, gun, and avionics all go to the phantom. Let’s be honest, the creator wanted the MiG to win lol
@sandels5805
5 ай бұрын
The MiG had more aerial victories. You talk about "gun" but the early f-4s didnt even have a gun.
@christopherchartier3017
5 ай бұрын
@@sandels5805 The F4’s had Vulcans. They fixed the no gun issue by the F4E
@Chopstorm.
5 ай бұрын
@@christopherchartier3017 The lack of a gun was never an issue. It was a training issue, as was proven by the Navy.
@user-sw78tjm2ky
2 ай бұрын
@@sandels5805"more aierial victories" where? In ur dream?
@tray3120
2 ай бұрын
@@user-sw78tjm2kyat one point the Vietnamese had to ground them all before they were all gone 😂
@amilamadushika2121
Жыл бұрын
Ey yo that's not a mig it's a Chendu F-7
@enterchannelname5953
8 ай бұрын
Same thing
@gravesshadow
8 ай бұрын
@@enterchannelname5953 same thing my ass rookie
@SaturnsHalo7734
3 ай бұрын
@@enterchannelname5953 they did show a Soviet MiG(ger) in the title tho…
@enterchannelname5953
3 ай бұрын
@@SaturnsHalo7734 Non modified J-7s are MiG-21s basically
@Armada-1935
6 ай бұрын
Bruh this is like the T-14 one again, he didn’t even count the service ceiling or anything, the F-4 Phantom WAS THE BEST fighter of its era, how do I know this? A GOD DAMN BOOK!
@sandels5805
5 ай бұрын
It wasnt. The mig was superior in engagments.
@Armada-1935
5 ай бұрын
Not entirely true, both won and lost engagements, but still it’s like he set it up so the MiG would win.
@Armada-1935
5 ай бұрын
And let’s be honest, the MiG would usually win if the F4 pilot was a complete dodo, or if they were literally trained to use the only advantages the MiG has to their advantage
@FireChicken747
11 ай бұрын
Only in the first stages of the war were the f4s we’re losing. But once they bumped up their training and and upgraded the f4. They were just a flying beast that terrorized the sky On a sidenote, it’s incredible how an interceptor was able to dog fight against a purebred dog fighter
@hideakibanno7540
9 ай бұрын
Both were classified as interceptors though
@slayerpf22
Жыл бұрын
Soviet bias right here
@emmalouisejohn
10 ай бұрын
This guy really likes Russia
@robiagacitei5487
10 ай бұрын
its facts, like it or not but facts don't care about ur feelings.
@mintman825
9 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487 u sure? last i checked the mig 21 had a terrible combat radius and a slatted F4 could fuck up a mig 21 every which way in the merge
@robiagacitei5487
9 ай бұрын
@@mintman825 last time you "checked" you used vietnamese MiG-21s with far worse systems than the ones the soviets used. everytime they sold something to a nation they always gave them worse systems compared to their own stuff, same as the US giving iraq abram tanks that didn't even have ERA on it. the soviet MiG-21 was far different. you guys also always compare the early MiG-21 to upgraded F-4's, i encourage you to compare ur average F-4 and MiG-21 today, you'll see which platform held on better and is used by far more nations, prime examples being romania and india. Romanian MiG-21 LanceR can carry both western and eastern ordnance and upgraded avionics/systems such as radar etc, im not too sure about the indian MiG-21 and its upgrades, but it should be similar to the MiG-21 LanceR or even better, since they are still using them and upgrading them meanwhile romania has stopped using them since this year.
@mintman825
9 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487 alrighty then lets compare some of the most modern f4s and 21s in service i would say the mig-21 UPG bison vs the Greek F-4E AUP is a good fight firstly armament the bison has the RVV-AE export R-77 and R-73s cued by an HMD (very scary indeed for aircraft of poorer countries and lower quality) it can carry 4x r77s max or 4 R73s or 2 r77s and 2 r73s with a Kopyo radar scary indeed but limited payload VS the greek F-4E AUP the greek f4e can carry the aim 120B and aim 9L (no 9M or 9X integration yet sad) loadouts consist of 4x aim 120B and 4x 9L no HMD but an APG-65 (better range and azimuth but not as modern and still mechanically scanned) now i would include the german F4F ICE seeing as it got 120Bs as well and the IRS-T but thats out of service and the IRS-T was only for testing also by the way the aim 120b and r77 are pretty equal from what we know except the r77 turns a bit better due to the grid fins apparently kenetic preformance of both aircraft is what youd expect from a mig 21bis and F-4E nothing really different there from what i know might add more into this it was written at 2am and im a bit sleepy so yeah
@hideakibanno7540
9 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487Turkish F-4 though
@littlemenyt188
Жыл бұрын
do F-5E Tiger vs Mig-21
@BENKYism
6 ай бұрын
It absolutely was not more successful than the F-4. The SA-2 was the unsung hero of the war for Vietnam.
@vysokyjalovec9469
11 ай бұрын
Nah, Phantom would destroy the Mig like it's nothing
@robiagacitei5487
10 ай бұрын
ur funny.
@xekoan507
8 ай бұрын
clown :D
@A_14761
7 ай бұрын
^ The replier above me Scumbag
@potatosuc4950
7 ай бұрын
@@xekoan507 3:1 KD
@CezarySwatek
7 ай бұрын
Depends on if he had an external gun because thats a fun y thing now😂😂😂 most the shit missilea never hit and the gun foghts where wuite usual in nam
@anuhaswickramasinghe3586
6 ай бұрын
Thats not a mig21. Thats a chendu F7
@BerInferno
5 ай бұрын
You know the funny thing is that people are comparing early mid 21s to late F4 phantoms if we compare the later 21s like the ones sold to Finland. It is a much different story the MIG 21Bis has a better engine, therefore better agility than it’s pretty assessors now it doesn’t have better agility than enough for, but you must keep in mind it is a lot better than most people would assume it also thrust the weight ratio above one believe it or not recently Romanian ones have been spotted using Aim 9Ls so you’re putting an aircraft that is very very maneuverable and also has aim 9Ls against a brick with a pretty good radar, but that radar doesn’t matter when the missiles suck even if it is Doppler
@AJwiththeAK
5 ай бұрын
If they properly trained the pilots for what modern dog fighting was and not the John Boyd fantasy they wanted I’m sure the early struggles would have been negated
@jjstorevik8492
3 ай бұрын
Bro said… “more successful” then gave the trophy to the other guy
@jjstorevik8492
3 ай бұрын
Only thing that might be worthwhile is ease of production that might swing it back to the MiG because then at least you could argue you would outnumber the phantoms (starting with the same resources)
@SRK_223
6 ай бұрын
F4 for longer-range and bombing/air to ground capability, MiG-21 for close-range air to air dogfights.
@keremalpan4826
Жыл бұрын
F4 better
@xekoan507
8 ай бұрын
Mig 21 Better.
@leventekovacs5291
6 ай бұрын
Why do we have to bring down one aircraft to praise another?
@ihaveapassport9202
3 ай бұрын
imagine in a f 4 phantom you turn to internal weapons cause you ran out of missiles and realize your fucked.
@454bigblock68
9 ай бұрын
The f4 has already won a few battles in Vietnam
@daddylongglegs
8 ай бұрын
bruh gave agility to the mig21 💀
@WarReppe
7 ай бұрын
Lol fr, he even gave the phantom more speed
@madaxe606
7 ай бұрын
The MiG-21 is famous for its agility, whereas the F-4 was heavy AF, albeit very fast and with a ton of A2G capability.
@motordyne_super37
6 ай бұрын
@@WarReppebecause the phantom is faster as it was initially designed as an interceptor
@WarReppe
6 ай бұрын
@@motordyne_super37 the fact that it was designed as an interceptor means nothing, speed is determined by engine propulsion and weight, not by designation lol
@motordyne_super37
6 ай бұрын
@@WarReppeit means a lot interceptors are designed to achieve speed that would allow it to take on bombers not dogfight hence why it had powerful engines this was at height of the Cold War plz know what the difference is between a fighter and a interceptor which btw is what the mig21 is as well same goes for the F-14
@GauravMuralidharan
3 ай бұрын
imo it depends what version of aircraft both are. Because F4s without guns had a lot of losses. And F4 with guns that's a different story altogether. That being said Mig21 is an interceptor and F4 at that time was a heavy air superiority fighter.
@MyJjbob
9 ай бұрын
F4 has a better radar because it can see almost 360
@pollapatthongfoomduan8008
Жыл бұрын
do F-8 Crusader vs Mig-21
@gustavsgutmanis3927
6 ай бұрын
Yom kippur war left the chat
@hooman_jj7833
6 ай бұрын
Your comparison is too basic...you have to consider many items like air to ground and air to air weapons... The king ( phantom) was the first fighter jet that could carry semi active AIM-7 Sparrow...with capability of carrying 4 AIM-7 migs couldn't even come close to start a dogfight... The king was the first fighter jet which could carry penetrative Bombs like GBU-10... In Avionics and Radar...HE could detect targets from 200 miles away... Do you want me to continue 😎?
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
It also leaves out which model, because both platforms gained and sometimes lost capability with successive models. An F-4D with it’s primitive missiles and lack of a cannon would probably struggle against any kind of MiG-21, but an F-4E or J with their improved weapons and avionics would demolish anything less capable than the 21bis or the later Indian modifications.
@Leonli_10
4 ай бұрын
Phantom better in every way I don’t need to explain 😈😈
@laurenfisher8132
Жыл бұрын
Do apache vs commanche
@Bradygaf
Жыл бұрын
Radar???
@vmfulcrum
5 ай бұрын
Difficult to make out what you're trying to say without getting motion sick
@_greefer
2 ай бұрын
F4 phantom🤙
@AGM-65_Maverick
6 ай бұрын
The victor depends on who engages first and what angle the perpetrator attacks from. Due to this, I believe in a generic sortie the F-4 would win. However, this does not mean that the MiG-21 is a bad plane. In fact, it still sees much service in several nations throughout the world.
@newwarrior1581
11 ай бұрын
Please make a Video of Mig 21 VS Su 22 Please
@lorenzh5513
3 ай бұрын
What the fuck happened to k/d and production number?
@KMC_PO_CLEVU_CVK_PEVO
5 ай бұрын
У миг 21 было куча модификаций
@Lou-oh2dc
8 ай бұрын
The f-4 actually destroyed the MIGS in the Vietnam war
@xekoan507
8 ай бұрын
hahaha good one, but usa lost more aircraft than vietnam, killed by migs because migs were better in dogfight
@lawman8877
8 ай бұрын
@@xekoan507your absolutely incorrect the f4 killed migs 5 to 1
@xekoan507
8 ай бұрын
@@lawman8877 these are fake just war stories
@ThatStrangeMan
8 ай бұрын
Lawman you’re wrong lol. You can check the planes service history/histories and you’ll see the practicality of the F4’s were less than the MiG’s in the Vietnam war.
@lawman8877
8 ай бұрын
@HASBU11AH your completely wrong f4s shot down way more migs look it up
@Thunder_Dog_Gaming
6 ай бұрын
1st of all thats not a mig its a j7 2nd of all the phantom is more agile just doesnt have as fast of a turn time but the mig loses all its speed in a tight turn edit a lot of ingagements were BVR beyond visualle range so this is unlikely anyway but look at the number of migs shot down vs f-4s shot down and answer who did better
@Warrior_AP
Жыл бұрын
In combat is another history 😂
@robiagacitei5487
10 ай бұрын
indeed, that's why the F-4 is barely used anymore. whereas the MiG-21 is still being used by far more nations.
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487 The F-4 phantom stopped being used because the countries that use Western equipment could afford better fighters. Every country still using MiG-21’s is only doing so because they can’t afford or are not allowed to buy fulcrums and flankers.
@robiagacitei5487
2 ай бұрын
@@lucasottile6982 oh really? is that why india uses MiG-21? they have one of the largest defense budgets and already have fulcrums. i doubt a nation that can afford aircraft carriers can't afford an upgrade over MiG-21s.
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487 They are supplanting and replacing them as fast as they can with Flankers and domestic Tejas fighters, they have said that the airframes are decades beyond their service lives. The upgrades are a stopgap until they can acquire enough modern Russian airframes and domestic aircraft, just like the upgraded German, Isn’traeli and Turkish phantoms were before they were replaced with modern American and domestic jets.
@dominicviner6619
Жыл бұрын
Combat radius? Isn’t that range because the f4 can fly much longer
@Bjawae
Жыл бұрын
heh.. you don't see em anymore, do you?
@robiagacitei5487
10 ай бұрын
the F-4? yeah almost no one still uses it.
@user-ni2io9in1g
9 ай бұрын
F-4とMiG-21は素晴らしいメカ
@tempist6970
Жыл бұрын
What f4 and mig21 are w talking? Because if we are facing the f4s Agenst the mig 21 bis it's not going to be a good day for the mig
@hemendraravi4787
Жыл бұрын
Mig21 bis can just dogfight
@tempist6970
Жыл бұрын
@@hemendraravi4787yep that's what it's built for what is your point???
@11Tits
Жыл бұрын
@@hemendraravi4787 yeah but thats kinda useless when you have a AIM-7 is approaching you
@hemendraravi4787
Жыл бұрын
@@11Tits can easily dodge those
@tempist6970
Жыл бұрын
@@hemendraravi4787 you do know accurate the aim9 J or H is right the J was built with taking out migs in mind a to it ain't going to doge them
@Joseph-js2gg
7 ай бұрын
F-4 would win in a dogfight
@Jackson_88
7 ай бұрын
No it wouldn’t 😂
@Joseph-js2gg
7 ай бұрын
How do u know? You seen them? U flown them against Mig-21s? Tf is the laughing emoji for as well lad.
@Jackson_88
7 ай бұрын
@@Joseph-js2gg delta wing
@Joseph-js2gg
7 ай бұрын
Tf u mean delta wing
@fauxbro1983
6 ай бұрын
depends on the flight envelope
@EBOSHA228
7 ай бұрын
Норм сравнивают фантом с самолётом которому 70 лет
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
The Phantom is not much younger than the MiG-21, both appeared in the mid 50’s and were used extensively in the 60’s and 70’s.
@Warpain572
6 ай бұрын
That’s all great with it maneuverability but that can’t do age this aim 7 and pulse Doppler radar from turning your plane into scarp metel
@vertigoiswack
9 ай бұрын
You've got to put in mind that the f4 your seeing is old phantom II updated can solo also mig 21s suck even Russia knew
@swedishviking8027
Жыл бұрын
F-f would win in a dog fight so this was pointless
@enverhoxha545
Жыл бұрын
Well..look what happen in Vietnam War
@mintman825
9 ай бұрын
@@enverhoxha545 mig 21s never stuck around to fight F4s it was all bnz and when they did it didnt work out too well take an F4E and set up a neutral merge with a MIG 21F-13 and i guarantee you that F4 will win
@enverhoxha545
9 ай бұрын
@@mintman825 well if we talk about F4 second variant yes they did work well against the Vietnamese MIG..still, can't deny F4 in the first place was outmatched by the Vietnamese MiG21 not even MIg21 cause even MIG 17 actually score a number of success shooting down early F4 in the sky over Vietnam.while in Arab Israeli war it's totally different with F4 completely knocking out Syrian and Egyptian MIG like no problem what so ever bcuz yes they are Arabs lol😂.except the Egyptian Mirage cause they perform really well in combat.
@BalkanVlach
7 ай бұрын
Lol, the mig 21 was never made to dogfight, it’s was made to hit hard and get out
@ValixityW
Жыл бұрын
whats the song
@Military_editz110
Жыл бұрын
Hennson - shara
@laurenfisher8132
Жыл бұрын
Stop the cap
@Crin3122
Жыл бұрын
Operation Bolo would say otherwise..
@doanhvu9593
11 ай бұрын
The US Air Force lost 678 F4 Phantom 2s, the North Vietnamese Air Force lost 60 -65 MiG 21s and 63 -75 MiG 17s. Source en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War#Total_losses
@Crin3122
11 ай бұрын
@@doanhvu9593 lol bro used wikipedia as a main source now i cant take h seriously 🤣
@motordyne_super37
6 ай бұрын
@@doanhvu9593US only lost 445 phantoms 382 of them in combat
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
@@doanhvu9593 Almost like the Vietnamese never had more than a hundred MiG-21’s and the United States had over 400 F-4’s in Southeast Asia alone.
@eboss8million88
8 ай бұрын
Ok this is like saying that damien lillard is better at shooting 3s and passing than mj therefore he is better. The weight of a fighter does not matter nearly as much as its weapons or maneuvering abilities
Except for the early models, Phantoms are faster than any kind of MiG-21. All models of Phantoms also outrun any kind of MiG-21 at low altitude.
@doge4818
2 ай бұрын
K/D goes to f4 delta wings lose 2 much energy
@madhie-kun8614
Жыл бұрын
* cough * agile eagle slats * cough * better kill ratio * cough * got even more modern than the mig21
@xekoan507
11 ай бұрын
Mig 21 is way more agile, f4 would win only because of fox3 capabilities
@horatiusromanus
11 ай бұрын
@@xekoan507So agility is a useless stat? The F4 wins on that front then completely.
@mintman825
9 ай бұрын
@@xekoan507 no it isn't the F4 smashes the mig 21 in a high alt rate fight (or just a rate fight in general) also the phantom has a better twr excluding the mig 21s emergency power option, slatted F4s could compete in every regime against the mig 21 and thats only if they dont get hit by an aim 7F from 50km
@hideakibanno7540
9 ай бұрын
@@mintman825 Vietnam era Aim-7f had like an extremely low kill rate and that's if they were even able to fire off the rail,
@mintman825
9 ай бұрын
@@hideakibanno7540 poor matinence and pilots not launching in the right parameters and the aim 7f was after nam. Look at the 1982 bekka valley turkey shoot for its preformance
@gabrielcarpenter4579
Жыл бұрын
f15vs mig25
@agidotexe7167
9 ай бұрын
mig 21 has very bad energy retention and the phantom has a far greater combat range then the mig21.
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
Not to mention that the Phantoms have in-flight refueling, something only used on late model MiGs.
@tarun00948
Жыл бұрын
Indian wing commander shot F16 with mig 21 bison. How about that 🔥🙌
@notthedeadweight
Жыл бұрын
@Arn Francis Tapic (T-64 Fanboy)🇪🇸 his dreams
@potatosuc4950
7 ай бұрын
They did a count of f16s before and after that incident, and the amount stayed the same, the f16s record still remained the same except for you delusional people
@Melkorsolostheverse
7 ай бұрын
F 4 negs that fodder plane
@HorizonGames_
3 ай бұрын
POV: you dont know anything about aviation
@yasin5300
Жыл бұрын
speed f4??
@mariussolomon6044
Жыл бұрын
No bc Mig21 have mach 2.0
@Sparks263
Жыл бұрын
@@mariussolomon6044 F-4 Phantoms could go Mach 2.2+ so idk what shit ur on
@phongha9631
Жыл бұрын
@@Sparks263 mig 21 speed mach 2.3
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
I have never heard of any model of operational MiG-21 going faster than Mach 2.2
@nutchanonpe92
Жыл бұрын
จะตัดต่อเร็วไปใหน กูดูไม่ทัน!!
@railwoodgamestarandrailfanandb
9 ай бұрын
Mig 21 has 1.8x more speed than f4.
@su-5755
8 ай бұрын
What?
@motordyne_super37
6 ай бұрын
No the Mig 21 is not faster than an F-4 it had some of the most powerful engines at the time
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
Only the early model fishbeds were faster than early model Phantoms. Late model Phantoms (E,J,G) were all faster than any version of the MiG-21, and all models of Phantom were faster at low altitude, and accelerated more quickly.
@Sparks263
Жыл бұрын
You gave 2 different freebees to the mig like lighter and cheaper 🤦♂️. A Top Gun Phantom pilot would absolutely wreck a MiG-21 Fishbed.
@robiagacitei5487
10 ай бұрын
a MiG-21 LanceR would absolutely demolish any F-4 ever made. these are the romanian MiG-21 upgraded by israel to carry both western and eastern payload aswell as better systems, radars etc.
@potatosuc4950
7 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487 Ok? lets compare it to an upgraded f4 ICE with amraam capability, now it demolishes the lancer
@robiagacitei5487
7 ай бұрын
@@potatosuc4950 hah, not even close to the lancer. it can carry the same missiles as F-15. F-16 and their eastern counterparts, aswell as the fact that its mainframe has more adapability and room for improvements.
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
@@robiagacitei5487 “It can carry the same missiles as the F-15 and F-16” Like, okay lmao, so can later model Phantoms, and the phantoms can carry more of them, and have a more capable radar to guide them. What’s your point?
@robiagacitei5487
2 ай бұрын
@@lucasottile6982 are you slow or what? what later model phantoms exactly? the latest model of phantom has a worse radar than something like a MiG-21 LanceR, and it also carries worse missiles too, sicne the LanceR could carry more modern missiles, as per its upgrade in 2010.
@juniorshin2781
10 ай бұрын
stop with the vietnam war
@stephen5674
Ай бұрын
No f4 is faster 😂😂 tr
@leventeszekely8804
Жыл бұрын
Mig 21 is faster than f4
@tempist6970
Жыл бұрын
Depend on the versions
@11Tits
Жыл бұрын
Both latest variants f4 is faster and technically has a larger combat radius
@princybella5386
9 ай бұрын
Wrong the F-4 didn't set A World Top Speed Record because it was slower.
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
Early models of F-4 were slower than most kinds of MiG-21, but the E, J, G, S, ICE and Kurnass were all faster than any kind of MiG-21. At low altitude, any model of phantom is faster than a MiG-21.
@American_Patriot1776__
Жыл бұрын
The f-4 is the greatest fighter jet of the 20th century it could hold its own in most instances it’s only fault is that it did not originally have a internal gun but a attachable one. And when I say most it was shown up by a f22 in Iran so.
@deeznustincorporated332
Жыл бұрын
wtf greatest? the f15, f14, f18, f16, f22 and other US jets were made at that time too. It has horrible maneuvering too, unless you mean speed.
@American_Patriot1776__
Жыл бұрын
@@deeznustincorporated332 look those were great fighters and I see your point, this was mainly my point of view. But the F-4 still affects how we make planes and how we fly to this day. It’s also my favorite aircraft so you can see my bias. Also there was a exercise were the F-4 and the f-15 had a dog fight simulation and the F-4 won without losing a single fighter in the first round
@mr.badnade3309
Жыл бұрын
@@American_Patriot1776__ Now I absolutely adore the F-4, but when it comes down to both a skilled F-15 pilot and a skilled F-4 pilot, chances are that the F-15 will win almost every time. When the 15 was first adopted, they were beaten by the F-4's due to more training and experience with the F-4.
@lucasottile6982
2 ай бұрын
@@deeznustincorporated332 The F-15 and F-14 were a few years behind even the E and J model phantoms, and the F-18 wouldn’t come until a decade later. They weren’t “made around the same time”, the F-15 and F-14 were made years later to replace the E and J phantoms respectively, and the F-18 would only come far later to replace the F-14.
@mariussolomon6044
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact :This contry 🇻🇳 dosent help this beautyful fighterjet MIG 21 I want to say for Romania RIP MIG21
@ucmanhngo5996
11 ай бұрын
1. Your spelling is suck. (country not contry, beautiful not beautyful) 2. Only the Vietnamese can use MiG-21 to successfully shoot down B-52 Stratofortress. The fact that the only country can shoot down B-52 is Vietnam. 3. I know MiG-21 is old, but that doesn't mean it's obsolete. Even with modern fighter, it still can win sometimes. 4. Your "fun fact" isn't fun. That's even not a fact, that's just a speak of someone doesn't know anything about military and history.
@prometeogamesfan2280
8 ай бұрын
fun fact mig 21 can kill b52 because that mig21 can kill f4 phantom
@Melkorsolostheverse
7 ай бұрын
cap and Mig 21 is Me 109 victim
@DemonaterTheAce
6 ай бұрын
MiG is garbage
@dluigi24
9 ай бұрын
nope fake news
@BerInferno
5 ай бұрын
No actually the MIG 21 would win because they are still upgraded to this day for Romania (They carry some of the best close range, aired to air missiles in the entire world) Funny how it isn’t fake news because you’re comparing an aircraft still used today to an aircraft not used today but hey let’s forget Iran exist because they have earlier versions of F4 phantoms and as far as we know, they haven’t really upgraded them much
@m1lanenjoyer
Жыл бұрын
you miscounted, F-4 had 4 not the MiG
@11Tits
Жыл бұрын
You cant count. if you notice he gave 3 free ones "cheaper", "lighter" and "agility". cause you know thats a fair comparrison between a heavy missile carrier
@m1lanenjoyer
Жыл бұрын
@@11Tits watch again
@11Tits
Жыл бұрын
@@m1lanenjoyer I did 3 times. Its the same result. The MiG got, combat range, agility, lighter and cheap. Idk bro seems like it was 4-3 to the MiG
@horatiusromanus
11 ай бұрын
@@11TitsWhat does lighter and cheaper have to do with combat stats? Would be like adding, “made in Russia” and “consistently shot down by F4s” as stats and saying we win because we have more notches. Those are true, but it doesn’t make you a great fighter aircraft.
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