@Stephen Underwood anyone with children that go to school need to be aware,, that if they shout "3rd wave" whilst your kids are at school, they can lockdown schools and force vaccinate,,,and there's nothing you'll be able to do about it. Once they sign into school,, that is full authority handed over to these people.. If people with half a brain realise that this all a scam, there is no virus,, then they have to realise that there's alterior motives at play here.. Time to stand up and be counted,, either that choose being culled?, or at the very least sterilised?, take your pick. 🎯
@cyprusgrump
3 жыл бұрын
The Independent - the least accurately named newspaper on the entire planet...
@Jade_holloway
3 жыл бұрын
indeed.
@guywas-ere359
3 жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchins speaks from a position of wanting absolute clarity on numbers to ascertain whether or not lockdowns are justified but such numbers seem to not be forthcoming, unfortunately.
@softcolly8753
3 жыл бұрын
It seems pretty obvious by now that lock downs don't bring benefactors in proportion to the massive cost
@Flapsupnolights
3 жыл бұрын
Yes correct
@leegordon4672
3 жыл бұрын
Training us up for socialism and communism social credit score
@ericboxer3053
3 жыл бұрын
look at this guy laughing over arguments about people losing everything
@nigel4570
3 жыл бұрын
It's shameful
@robertelliott2216
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly Eric it sums the left up actually.
@gwd1095
3 жыл бұрын
He's a complete tosswank who always seem to have a smarmy grin on his face, like Wancock
@johnking396
3 жыл бұрын
People like John Rentoul helps explain why this country is in such a mess. Must have listened to a different debate yesterday.
@Flapsupnolights
3 жыл бұрын
I know. Did he even listen to it?
@Twmpa
3 жыл бұрын
i agree because I clearly watched a different debate to the one John Rentoul saw as well. No-one wins a debate by insulting the opposition.
@thundercity311
3 жыл бұрын
Ren "Tool".
@lindiwright1373
3 жыл бұрын
Yes completely agree..Rentoul was stressed to fxxx and used his laughter to control an out of control situation which he created. Maniacal 😳
@gwd1095
3 жыл бұрын
John Rentoul just enjoys talking out of his arse all the time...
@Ligerpride
3 жыл бұрын
This is the problem John. Rentoul here has made the standard mistake here of using lockdowns as orthodoxy that needs to be argued against, as opposed to freedom and liberty being orthodoxy with lockdowns needed to be argued for. It's a subtle but crucial difference.....and a dangerous one.
@samadb8699
3 жыл бұрын
This comment is a real lightbulb moment for me I frequently argue against Lockdown with people and I get lost in the weeds I will change tack to this method. This really helps Thanks
@Ligerpride
3 жыл бұрын
@@samadb8699 much love
@JMJC1
3 жыл бұрын
As PH has said, it is the duty of the proposer who has to provide the evidence to back the actions, not the challenger to give evidence that X doesn't work. Cue the old seatbelt argument.
@mrwilsonwilson9599
3 жыл бұрын
John must have watched a different debate than the one I watched ....
@garytyme9384
3 жыл бұрын
Likewise, did he get the wrong link or something?
@nelmonster1
3 жыл бұрын
Hodges didn't have an argument, he just kept saying that no-one changes their mind on new evidence WITHOUT giving any new evidence!!!
@chrishart8548
3 жыл бұрын
@Nowthen not brave. More like delusional.
@db7314
3 жыл бұрын
Independent ... yes you might want to change the name of your paper
@davephillips1987
3 жыл бұрын
John Rentoul has nothing to say here. he has no substance
@danielbate13
3 жыл бұрын
He has a strange cheery attitude to something so very tragic and dangerous, the destruction of many lives, a bit like that absolute turd Hancock, hope they both get what they deserve in the future for being this way
@nezzam100
3 жыл бұрын
"Dan won the debate" ???. What planet is that berk on ?.
@-DC-
3 жыл бұрын
Rentoul hasn't a clue lololol
@Explorations84
3 жыл бұрын
Why is this guy constantly laughing for the whole interview?! Seems very out of touch...
@Snoozzzzzze
3 жыл бұрын
Peter never argued that not having a lockdown would mean less covid deaths but there is no evidence that in the long term there would actually be a difference but he has argued that there are actually other human factors that should be taken into account.
@automotivel3501
3 жыл бұрын
This John Rentoul is a knob.
@jamesyhap7883
3 жыл бұрын
the whole country? then spearhead a lockdown referendum
@oatcake4153
3 жыл бұрын
Whilst we need a balanced view I am not sure where they keep finding these clowns that are so disconnect from ordinary people - John Rentoul, Dan Hodges, 😱😱😱😱😱 These guys are the type of people that are compounding the awful decisions being made by people in power and prolonging the agony of ordinary working people.
@antoniopalmero4063
3 жыл бұрын
It’s nice that these migrants in our hotels have a choice to go hungry, my family doesn’t have a choice, we just go hungry.
@bigkasper5413
3 жыл бұрын
How this guy coming on here trying to disrespect peter! Listen i don't know why this man was brought on but you need to stop being so smiley about the severity of the situation at hand..😤 cause this is serious to us it's not a game, were we can fail mission and start over when you die, this is making irreversible changes in some people's live and its not cause of the virus, it's because of the policies and restrictions.. LOCKDOWNS!!!
@fionamoir7153
3 жыл бұрын
Why is this guy laughing. Is he right in the head. No room for debate.
@gailbaxter4900
3 жыл бұрын
The word denier is used to shut down debate.
@Dimrizzen
3 жыл бұрын
By the way, what happened to THE PROMISED 350MILLION PER WEEK FOR THE NHS? That would also Help...
@canopus101
3 жыл бұрын
Mike Graham is correct, the NHS is very badly run.
@jayseabie215
3 жыл бұрын
How can anyone be a 'lockdown denier'? The term doesn't even make sense. We are in lockdown so no one can 'deny' it! Anyone who uses that term must be a complete idiot. You can be a 'lockdown sceptic', which is what Peter Hitchins is along with many others, however it is not possible to 'deny' that we have been forced into lockdown. This only proves the idiocy of any person who levels that against you.
@fen0000
3 жыл бұрын
Well Rentoul's right on one thing. I would never demean myself by listening to O'Brien. As far as phone polls go there is no evidemce they are representative. Why they even rang me once
@Isclachau
3 жыл бұрын
Dan Won😂😂 He won by losing the argument apparently by John Rentoul.
@malcolmhaynes1424
3 жыл бұрын
Mike Graham was talking sense end of debate!!! This other guy talked utter garbage. He asks if there was no lockdown what was the alternative? Answer , no lockdown!! But protect the vulnerable. Why are people like mike's guest behaving so odd and burying their heads in the sand regarding the facts. Sinister behaviour
@jamesyhap7883
3 жыл бұрын
government has a efficient tool to wield politically as well as the experience from opium war that was exercised on China
@artistmofo
3 жыл бұрын
Shut up John Rentoul 🙄
@jenniferleason1322
3 жыл бұрын
You cannot tell Mr. Rentoul anything.
@blazejsroka4319
3 жыл бұрын
Every time John Says "No" drink a shot...
@danielstan3345
3 жыл бұрын
Looked like Hitchens lost?What debate was he watching🤦
@iancampbell3202
3 жыл бұрын
Thats why no one buys the independent
@terencej72
3 жыл бұрын
This guy is having a laugh isn't he?, Peter Hitchens won that hands down.
@alicejwho
3 жыл бұрын
What on EARTH is he on about?? He thought DH won the argument?! I had to play that back to make sure I hadn't misheard.
@bronte6364
3 жыл бұрын
Very deluded chap!
@will-wf6sb
3 жыл бұрын
Hitchens does give a n alternative, the ONLY alternative which is those who are at risk must ISOLATE the rest carry on with certain measures .
@nonamephil9877
3 жыл бұрын
Don't know what debate he watched Peter won hands down
@poopyduck4931
3 жыл бұрын
There's something endearing about hearing these people be questioned.
@ianbennett1491
3 жыл бұрын
Hitchens wiped the floor with Hodges.
@nijjijjion204
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't say wiped at all he didn't have much to proof his viewpoint (vague being the word) or to counter Hodges. I was thinking more of Hitchens really.
@tom5216
3 жыл бұрын
Where’s the proof that any of the lockdowns have had any effect then.
@Flapsupnolights
3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@johnwest1457
3 жыл бұрын
WTF planet is Rentoul living on! Hodges answered NO questions!
@ianbennett1491
3 жыл бұрын
@Nowthen Complete buffoon.
@davidrichardson5153
3 жыл бұрын
This guy looks like he’s quite happy to stay at home. Plenty of books to read !!
@nigel4570
3 жыл бұрын
He's probably not left the house for a year .A complete lefty tool !
@dylanwestren
3 жыл бұрын
Always the rich in the London bubble who are happy to lockdown. Totally out of touch with the working class who are losing their jobs, and businesses through no fault of their own.
@dexine4723
3 жыл бұрын
@Matt THX Possibly, but my money's on him having the entire back catalogue of Swish magazine stashed away;)
@dylanwestren
3 жыл бұрын
@@russellr6089 exactly 👍
@martyt8551
3 жыл бұрын
What a yes man , he was laughing all through this discussion, this is why we are in a bad world now.
@stevemiller3433
3 жыл бұрын
Horrible man , clearly thinks only he could have a valid opinion
@47nrubreddew
3 жыл бұрын
He smirks and is so full of himself.
@star.4president
3 жыл бұрын
Typical lefty!
@TheBergmaster
3 жыл бұрын
Even corona virus would social distance from John Rentoul
@MickeyCool30
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly Cornavirus would definitely think John Rentoul is an idiot
@garytyme9384
3 жыл бұрын
That is gold. Pmsl, lol...
@Dublin10
3 жыл бұрын
How that guy thinks Dan won the argument is beyond me.
@fen0000
3 жыл бұрын
It's just because he shares the same opinion. Wish he'd stop giggling like a schoolboy
@charlesoleary3066
3 жыл бұрын
He still doesn’t understand the implications of lockdowns, he is comfortable and that is all that matters to him
@granty1954
3 жыл бұрын
I thought Dan won.
@charlesoleary3066
3 жыл бұрын
@@granty1954 well that’s a little early to make that assumption. Let’s see if we get all our freedoms back and how long the economy takes to recover.
@granty1954
3 жыл бұрын
@@charlesoleary3066 makes me truly laugh when I hear 'we've lost our freedom' all because we have to stay at home for a few months. The economy? That will rocket back - enough financial bods say it.
@davidoconnor3201
3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe anyone watched that debate, and thought Dan hodges won. I genuinely can't believe it.
@latchdoorlatch996
3 жыл бұрын
I can ..its the hypothetical lefty loons as usual like this tool all with tunnel vision
@iancampbell3202
3 жыл бұрын
Read the comments it’s clear he didn’t.
@tonypurcell1049
3 жыл бұрын
Clearly a man who argues for a living and thoroughly enjoys his job, however for most of the general public it's a nightmare situation and we're literally fighting for our lives, and to get our lives back.
@user-ck2vr5jb1i
3 жыл бұрын
Peter can never be accused as being vague 😂
@Ian-co5ku
3 жыл бұрын
Quite a confused chap this John.
@dotsthots
3 жыл бұрын
Just another weak-minded, supercilious jelly-brain. Plenty of them about.
@thedevilsadvocate4223
3 жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchins always explains why it’s a disaster, guessing this bloke is fully paid doesn’t have to worry about the damage caused by this
@billybigballs5026
3 жыл бұрын
“So what you’re saying is...” I’ve heard that line of argument before, it was laughable then too, this bloke is a clown.
@donshagger4742
3 жыл бұрын
Cannot stand this Rentoul guy.
@granvillestout2681
3 жыл бұрын
You got his name wrong its Rentatool!
@jonnobloggs1139
3 жыл бұрын
You don't like him because he says things that don't suit your righty agenda. Man up and stop being such a big woos!!!!
@donshagger4742
3 жыл бұрын
"woos" Bit rich ey Jonno? Coming from someone probably hid behind their couch incase you get a sniffle.
@jonnobloggs1139
3 жыл бұрын
🤪
@donshagger4742
3 жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head I take it. Silly Johnny.
@kat3325
3 жыл бұрын
So this person is a journalist.... how did this even happen????
@artfuldodger2623
3 жыл бұрын
You can see why the media is in such a state in this country
@riptmedia7416
3 жыл бұрын
Propagandist
@jasonjudd3810
3 жыл бұрын
This is vey “ School boyish” ... but I really really really do NOT like this man “RenTOOL” . He’s one of those annoying Lefties that is so patronizing it just engulfs you
@teresasteele5327
3 жыл бұрын
He's no leftie, he's a paid up establishment man.
@ross8917
3 жыл бұрын
@@teresasteele5327 How are those characteristics mutually exclusive?
@pistolpunkworld
3 жыл бұрын
3.31 Peter did smash that the government did have a plan in place to deal with a pandemic however we used the model China used without even using the plan the government put in place to plan to deal with a global pandemic
@christophercarlton3534
3 жыл бұрын
My mind is blown by the pure unadulterated nonsense spewing from John Rentoul's gob! Mike Graham, as usual, doing a sterling job of making sense of the situation, and calling out the BS of the lockdown lovers!
@danielshagman
3 жыл бұрын
We are "protecting" older people for a few extra months, at the expense of everybody else. It's obscene, monstrous, and anyone advocating it will end up with a lot of blood on their hands. ........ "Not all deaths are equal" Sir Charles Walker.
@rewdwarf123
3 жыл бұрын
From covid, but not dementia, cancer and heart disease.
@Hiltsuk1
3 жыл бұрын
We’ve got to take our freedom back this is becoming too much 😞
@davidwalters313
3 жыл бұрын
He must have been watching a different debate or he is deluded
@twospeeds2436
3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: John Rentoul changed his surname in 1990, he was originally called John Smug-Hunt
@James-gf9jl
3 жыл бұрын
Is that an anagram for "kid everybody hated at school"?
@dexine4723
3 жыл бұрын
Error - replace 'H' with 'C''.
@iancampbell3202
3 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe
@oceanicstorm
3 жыл бұрын
Why is he laughing so much? Nothing funny about all this. What a terrible mindset.
@latchdoorlatch996
3 жыл бұрын
This guy wins plank of the week ..what a horrible little man ...
@rossblack9559
3 жыл бұрын
How
@ericboxer3053
3 жыл бұрын
numerous states including where I live in America have not locked down and never used an overflow hospital..not a single one
@Flapsupnolights
3 жыл бұрын
There is no correlation of severity of lockdown to the number of deaths across the world, that is quite clear. It is, however quite clear the devastation to peoples livelihood and society as a whole. One of the biggest overreactions to a virus in my opinion. It's not the black death, plague or even on the same scale as Spanish Flu. The figures speak for themselves.
@rossblack9559
3 жыл бұрын
@@Flapsupnolights Are you sympathetic with any of the people that have died due to covid? You seen how it's teared apart people's families and death. Surely that would be the first or main concern wouldn't it?
@DavidSmith-xe8wm
3 жыл бұрын
@@rossblack9559 if you are stupid you will believe everything the government tells you, of course its not nice when people die but people die every day of lots of things, wake up
@rossblack9559
3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidSmith-xe8wm Not sure what your comment means believe everything the government tells me why have you mentioned that?
@DavidSmith-xe8wm
3 жыл бұрын
@@rossblack9559 you don't understand what's happening do you, you are being lied to constantly
@davidculliton3653
3 жыл бұрын
Well done Mike.. destroyed him with common sense 👍 these muppets all sing from the same hymn sheet and won’t deviate but when pushed they crumble 👍
@la8rattab973
3 жыл бұрын
Why couldn't the nightingale hospitals have been covid only. Staffed by NHS people who are tested positive but still fit enough to work?
@dexine4723
3 жыл бұрын
Because that would require an intelligent use of resources and the ability of someone in charge to think outside the box. Sadly, for the same reasons that 40,000+ would-be volunteers were screwed around until they gave up trying to help, such talents are not to be found in NHS management or in government.
@cliftonwebb5872
3 жыл бұрын
John Rentoul clearly so flabbergasted that he can’t answer Mike Graham’s questions properly. He wins first prize for Frenetic Spluttering
@lindiwright1373
3 жыл бұрын
@Clifton Webb. Love your vernacular ! Stealing your ‘Frenetic Spluttering’. Thank you 😉
@danielbrett247
3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a plank of the week candidate.
@sn4831
3 жыл бұрын
Which debate was this guy watching? Im not Hitchens' biggest fan, but he clearly won the argument
@fifthpint4571
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Rentoul is willfully misrepresenting what we all saw. Not sure what he's smoking.
@faithingod5533
3 жыл бұрын
haha plank of the week would be an understatement..
@AJ-bw4mc
3 жыл бұрын
These people live on their own planet
@malcolmfairs7752
3 жыл бұрын
I wish they would
@ViralKiller
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah...you know....law and common sense......or we have Minority Report...hell at least they could see actual outcomes
@Ligerpride
3 жыл бұрын
The lefty thought Hodges won over a vague and hopeless Hitchens. Pull the other one John. Go back to sleep.
@JohnCorrUK
3 жыл бұрын
John Rentoul clearly didn't watch or listen to the debate - or suffers from massive confirmatory bias
@chloewainwright
3 жыл бұрын
Well done Mike, put him through his paces.
@nichan2475
3 жыл бұрын
The alternative is to not tyrannically control every aspect of people's lives.
@sonnysunshine5422
3 жыл бұрын
John Rent a Tool.... Not watched it, guaranteed Peter won Will watch it now
@michellecummings185
3 жыл бұрын
John just parroting the same narrative. I'm very worried about the total lack of empathy displayed by John and Dan..
@monky_dust
3 жыл бұрын
Psychopaths?
@lawrencejennings2041
3 жыл бұрын
REVOLUTION
@brynteelingtheriverthieves3266
3 жыл бұрын
I hope I never have to sit down and enjoy a pint with this guy. What a doofus
@paulalondon1339
3 жыл бұрын
Bet he don’t drink he is prob a Vegan 🌱 too 🤔🤓
@stevenaustin8274
3 жыл бұрын
Radio rental I’d say ! He seems to of elevated the ability of talking through your arse into an art form
@kbeetles
3 жыл бұрын
I well past the point when I can listen to anybody from ANY kind of mainstream media. Bye Mr Rentoul, whoever you are - just cannot stomach more BS.
@mattnewman1274
3 жыл бұрын
Mike Graham won this debate, Mr Rentoul is a right plank.
@madforit2
3 жыл бұрын
I'd have liked hitchens to press hodges on Sweden policy in comparison to rest of Europe, North dakota to South dakota, florida to california etc
@Flapsupnolights
3 жыл бұрын
Hitchens doesn't need to come out with an alternative. He asks questions that no one can give an answer too
@lollyegan9072
3 жыл бұрын
Well argued against this pompous fool Mike..bravo 👏
@billsticker
3 жыл бұрын
To use the word 'denier' means you don't have any facts to back up your point of view.
@ExpressoMechanicTV
3 жыл бұрын
"That's not representative sample". He sounds like an MP.
@dexine4723
3 жыл бұрын
Lol, and he thinks YouGov polls aren't 'self-selected'. Random people don't get called - they've already put themselves forward to take part in polls.
@MrJevman
3 жыл бұрын
“Dan Hodges won the debate” OK John 😂😂😂
@paulhalsall5894
3 жыл бұрын
Rentoul, emphasis on tool.
@jabirujoe5206
3 жыл бұрын
Or it could be Rentout. A presstitute in other words.
@oldsongsnew8797
3 жыл бұрын
This guys not a PH fan.. thats what I'm getting.....I want the lockdown ended....my self selecting opinion.
@rossblack9559
3 жыл бұрын
Every fucking person wants it ended. What is the purpose of your comment? Am sure Peter hitches isn't an Owen Jones fan. What seriously is your point. It's called an opinion.
@marianrussell6089
3 жыл бұрын
Well done Mike Graham, you ran circles around this john guy. He's an utter govt supporter
@artisan998
3 жыл бұрын
So Rentoul champions Hodges for changing his mind but refuses to move his opinion when shot down repeatedly. What a Helmet 🙄
@JS64100
3 жыл бұрын
Warden Hodges did so well he needs a wingman to cover for him the following day!
@chuckworthy4547
3 жыл бұрын
Rentoul and Hodges quite happy in their home libraries. Nice to hear from journalists who have profited massively from this epidemic while the nation struggles, couple of heroes.
@Mua-Dib
3 жыл бұрын
Nice expose of the Independent 's bias. Starts from the top
@LORDENGLISHVETERAN-nx6rk
3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think ANYONE in public office should have a suitable deterrent for just this situation..death penalty .. I would happily serve... I have served under threat of death.. they would not... if they take responsibility for the armed services then they should face the same ultimate penalty they do.. it's called responsibility.. I accepted that when I joined.. I was in part RESPONCIBLE for protecting the UK... I could have been killed many times.. polititions accept NO responsibility.. and that is wrong..example.. I punch someone..I get x punishment. I punch a policeman ..I get more punishment.. so holding a country to ransome without facts or truth or a solid strategy.. they get a pension..lordships..ect...NO... ( will see when sturgeon gets done with see what she gets)
@djtonylee
3 жыл бұрын
This guy looks deranged, he looks like he is enjoying the misery and suffering of the average person.
@primafacie6442
3 жыл бұрын
Debate II.....Peter VS John........got my popcorn ready for a successive Hitchens victory
@livelearnandteach7402
3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with changing your mind.......however changing your mind doesn't automatically make you right. We must always debate so we can question our way to the truth.
@minkleymcmoo5248
3 жыл бұрын
We make decisions all the time on what might happen, it's called consequentialism.
@garethkennedy3488
3 жыл бұрын
There is no way anyone could ever argue Dan won that debate ... I don't know what debate this guy was watching but Dan didn't have any objective argument or provable statistic, he just had a whimsical emotive argument which is what got us into this mess in the first place. Peter quoted hard fact and provable statistics ...
@tomscammell8126
3 жыл бұрын
Dan Hodges won the argument 😂😂😂😂 this man is a complete fool
@Chrisdavies33
3 жыл бұрын
I think John wants to take Dan to one of his Posh London Gentlemen’s Clubs 😉
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