I have met Joe three times and every time, he was an absolute gem of a guy. He gave me a VIP pass that enabled me to go to a nightclub with Holyfield. He also recognized me when he was a minder at the NEC in Birmingham, and called me over to meet Witherspoon, Morrison, and others.
@Elvis68spec
6 жыл бұрын
If what Joe said is true, we have no way of really knowing. I can tell you this, with absolute certainty. Mike Tyson in his prime, the Bill Kayton, Kevin Rooney team, Tyson would have flattened Lewis and Holyfield! Anyone that knows Boxing would find it very difficult to disagree with me.
@andrewbryce2707
6 жыл бұрын
Don Blake nah Lennox too big and strong. Even in Tyson prime, prime Lewis beats Tyson
@Elvis68spec
6 жыл бұрын
It is true to say that Tyson, even in his prime had trouble with bigger Men with a good Jab. Lennox Lewis was a very good technical Boxer with a good Jab and a strong right Hand.However, he had no chin and a Fighting style that made him unappealing in the US! Lewis had success against Fighters who were typically, smaller than him. Anytime, Lennox fought anyone with real Heavyweight power and reasonable skill, He would get KOd! Mike Tyson would have absolutely, finished Him. The biggest knock I can pin on Lennox Lewis is, He had no Heart!
@soulveiw
6 жыл бұрын
No chin? He went down twice in over 40 fights, most at the top of the game. This chinny nonsense from a guy who claims to know boxing is hilarious lol. Even a prime Vitali an even bigger man couldn't put a fat past it Lewis down. Mean while how many time did Tyson face plant? Not that I'm calling him chinny I just find this if you get KO'd you're chinny casual bullshit.
@Elvis68spec
6 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis was a bit more polished than VK, Lewis had more Ring experience. If their fight would have been able to continue, Lewis probably, would have stopped VK but I guarantee, that if VK would have landed one flush shot, lights out Lennox! I think Lewis may have been slightly ahead before the stoppage.The Fight was very close!
@mjsully86
6 жыл бұрын
Don Blake 👍
@ddandrews6472
4 жыл бұрын
When Tyson was in his prime knocking out everybody, Lewis and Holyfield wasn't even in the picture to be considered, let alone fighting Tyson. Tyson is a truly athletic fighter that didn't need a good technically advanced jab. Tyson is an ambidextrous power/speed puncher which is a very rare combination. Combine that with highly trained ability to dodge power punches and jabs, and combine that with the ability to take punches and you have a super fighter, and that is what he was. Didn't last very long, but that's the way it is. Not possible for Tyson to stay that way for consistent ten years. Life gets to you, regardless of how super talented you are athletically.
@eshay8546
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 100%
@finchsferrets2390
7 ай бұрын
He wouldnt fight lewis,or hollyfield or bow,,hed fought old men,when ever he stood against a man not frighten of him he lost end of
@berlingobob
2 күн бұрын
Finchferrit guy, shut it! Your disrespecting the Champ. Young Mike Tyson 85-89 beats everyone even the greatest Ali on points. Just a perfect unstoppable machine 💪
@neobootsonious
6 жыл бұрын
Tyson's skills started declining when he faced Frank Bruno the first time. The loss to Douglas wasn't a surprise to his trainer Kevin Rooney. Tyson was drinking, doing coke and Japanese hookers before that fight.
@Abdur_Rahman_S.
5 жыл бұрын
neobootsonious tyson and Rooney has already split. Tyson has left everything cus d’amato surrounded him with.
@CajunRulez
5 жыл бұрын
Yep. I remember watching that Bruno 1 fight, February 1989, and realizing that Tyson was already on the way out. Once his original team was gone and Don King had his hooks in him it was all over. Tyson needed people around him to coach his life more than boxing.
@jvhobart
4 жыл бұрын
Tyson split with Clayton and Rooney after the Spinx fight. His next match was the first Bruno fight and yes he *did* look like shit with Jay Bright and Aaron Snowell, compared to the finely tuned fighting machine he was with Rooney.
@Pulsonar
4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw Tyson making a dogs dinner of the ‘89 Bruno fight. Tyson won in 5 but it was a shambolic victory over a strong but average boxer. He KOd Carl ‘The Truth’ Williams next in a 1 round fiasco that should never have ended so abruptly. The business as usual look in the Don King camp was an illusion. The Don King, ‘coach’ Jay Bright (Rooneys replacement 😂) , and Robin Givens axis of destruction was already in full swing... by the end of 1988.
@BustedKnuckles69
Жыл бұрын
He was knocked down while sparring toney Tubbs before that fight as well ...he was talking about how great it would be if he did lose a fight and how everyone would leave him alone ...his mind wasnt even in the vicinity of alright at that time
@TonyDMX
7 ай бұрын
Joe is such a real guy, there is nothing fake about him. 👏 👏👏
@ox3965
6 жыл бұрын
I am so glad some one finally said it how it was. I said that for years. tyson was the man in his prime.
@TTg-zw9ds
4 жыл бұрын
Adrian Tyson was 14 years past his best Lewis was in a much much better position in his career than Tyson, as u heard joe Egan say Tyson knocked out Lewis in his prime!
@TTg-zw9ds
4 жыл бұрын
Adrian doesn’t matter that Lewis was older Lewis got better with age Tyson got worse was at his best at a 20 even Lewis says so on how rogans podcast that Tyson was fighting for money, Lewis got better as he aged Tyson was a shell of himself, joe Egan said it himself he was there Tyson SPARKED LEWIS OUT when they was both young
@andymac3820
3 жыл бұрын
@@TTg-zw9ds its a bogus barefaced lie, why the f would Joe Egan and absolute nobody be at the catskill gym! do you believe everything you hear, multiple sources say there was 3 days of sparring between Lewis and Tyson and Lewis got the better of Tyson 2 out of the 3 days.
@TTg-zw9ds
3 жыл бұрын
@@andymac3820 because he was mikes sparring partner in the 80s even mike has said it look him and mike up on KZitem do your research
@andymac3820
3 жыл бұрын
@@TTg-zw9ds he was his sparring partner but he wasnt at the catskill gym when lewis was there....
@neobootsonious
6 жыл бұрын
Emmanuel Steward said that Tyson gave Lennox a beating when they sparred as teenagers.
@soulveiw
6 жыл бұрын
LOL You just made that up mate, he never said anything like it
@andrewharris7123
6 жыл бұрын
Load of rubbish, anyway tyson at 21 was far more developed physically that lewis at that time, tyson was at is peak, lewis didnt peak physically for prob another 10years. Loads get knocked down/out in sparring it means feck all.
@neobootsonious
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew Harris Tyson was also totally washed up when he faced Lewis for real. He only fought Lewis because he needed the money.
@neobootsonious
6 жыл бұрын
phil hems Steward did say it. You can find the interview yourself.
@Sikander72
6 жыл бұрын
+neobootsonious he said that he was the only man to step into the ring with " Lewis and Tyson and not get knocked out apart from Holyfield. So it's fighting both of them and not getting kod
@mattarrington4746
4 жыл бұрын
This video just gives me more confirmation that if mike would've kept his head on straight and kept rooney, nobody during the 80s or 90s would've beaten him regardless of what the haters say. I always knew he was a better fighter than Lennox lewis. No one beat mike tyson, mike tyson beat mike tyson!!!!
@jigzonyt517
3 жыл бұрын
Rooney was the start of Tyson's downfall. Tyson and cus was the dynamic team.
@raysierra4194
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah living Rooney said tyson got the upper hand when they spared when they were younger.Lewis said "he fattened my lip.i busted up his mouth"but Kevin Rooney said that was all BS.he said when they spared Tyson got the upper hand
@lyrickoner
2 жыл бұрын
How was he better ? because he won in a sparring session lol. All this talk about tyson being past his prime is over exaggerated tbf. Remember tyson lost to Lennox Lewis after coming off of a 5 match unbeaten streak. And Lennox beat Holyfield while Tyson got easily beaten by him. We can't always say Tyson was past his prime EVERY time he lost otherwise it's just making dumb excuses.
@paulmidgley8040
2 жыл бұрын
Im a massive lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield fan but I think I can soundly day if Mike could have stayed on the right path with good management and out of the way of the dreaded Don King he probably would have stayed undefeated. The guy was on another level. There were legends then there was iron Mike Tyson.
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@raysierra4194 I'm not saying Rooney's memory is perfect, but it would be foolish to take Lewis at his word. He's proven himself to be a bullshitter, multiple times.
@mywonderjam
6 жыл бұрын
No matter how many boxers claim themselves as better than Tyson. they speak of Mike even when the show, event or segment is not about Tyson. That goes to show the irony of their constant defense of being better than Tyson. I've always maintained, if any boxer claims to be better than Tyson, they need to go 3 years in prison in their prime on bogus charges. They will never be the same.
@lennoxmate4064
5 жыл бұрын
mywonderjam or they need to be banned from boxing for three and a half years like Ali or spend ten years out of the ring like Foreman.
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
He wasn't in his prime when he went to prison. It's astounding how many users on KZitem are still unaware of this.
@annoyingboringuseless
Жыл бұрын
@@bubufubu okay smarty pants, you think every other boxer at the same age as tyson going to prison (on false charges) will come out the same as they were before they went to prison? why don't you spend 3 yrs in prison and see what your mental state to be let alone fight heavyweights?
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@annoyingboringuseless Reread my comment and try again. (Hint: Tyson's prime ended in 1988)
@annoyingboringuseless
Жыл бұрын
@@bubufubu oh man, i am not simply alluding to tysons prime alone, you have to factor in other boxers spending 3 yrs in prison on false charges to see how they cope up with the division there after whether in their prime or not.
@philsooty5421
5 жыл бұрын
You cannot compare sparring with a boxing match, if Egan was that good he'd have been world champion
@kellystewart9973
4 жыл бұрын
Sparring gets you familiar with your opponents movements and habits and reactions, so it is a great benefit when everything goes how it's supposed to go. The reason things had changed for Tyson is because he himself had changed unfortunately for the worse. Had he never fired Rooney or Bill Cayton he'd probably still be undefeated and quite possibly been known as the best heavyweight fighter ever!
@VMEcycle6
3 ай бұрын
If sparring counts. Then Charlie Zelenoff would be a great fighter. 😅
@mickey259
6 жыл бұрын
He speaks the truth 👍🏻
@easygrin1127
3 жыл бұрын
Yes in the ear of every fanboy... pity Tyson himself has denied it
@SgtKnievel
3 жыл бұрын
@@easygrin1127 the hate is strong with you. Tyson never denied it. Just you.. a fanyboy
@easygrin1127
3 жыл бұрын
@@SgtKnievel ye im a fanboy for not grasping something which was never confirmed by any credible scource... You know what you are Kidd just embrace it.
@awashbarbecue9109
3 жыл бұрын
@@easygrin1127 Lol, the amount of salt in you is unreal. Lennox is an insane human being who spews pure BS. The man said he fought a prime Tyson in 02; that’s fucking ridiculous. He doesn’t even believe in wearing masks during this horrible COVID 19 pandemic. He’s a damn moron and a ludicrous clown.
@eshay8546
3 жыл бұрын
@@easygrin1127 shutup loser
@kisswriters
4 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful compliment, I'm sure Tyson truly appreciates it ...
@Chief2Moon
5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this very much. As much as I'd followed boxing over the last 50+yrs, somehow I'd forgotten about Joe. He's an engaging guy with some good stories. Thanks for posting
@MartinT5600
6 жыл бұрын
I met Joe once and he couldn't have been a more humble and lovely fella.
@MartinT5600
6 жыл бұрын
Don Rider well your watching a video and commenting on him...you sound like the bitter bum, little fella.
@tanak2232
5 жыл бұрын
If Lennox and Tyson met mid twenties Tyson would’ve destroyed Lennox, have you seen Lennox early fights he wasn’t that great, but Lennox gradually as he got older and more experienced he used his height and long reach advantage well, and yes Tyson and Lennox fight was mentioned around the the time before he went prison and after but Lennox trainers and promoters were like not now , but when they could see Tyson was declining not the old Tyson then they were like yep now the time for a Tyson Lennox fight , you be surprised how much thought goes in to boxing how planned it is , because at the end of the day they have to think of there careers, you could lose a fight and if you don’t have a name like mike Tyson your career basically over , why didn’t that happened to Tyson it’s because everyone love to watch Tyson he was a exciting fighter that’s what people wanted so if he lost , people would still pay top dollar to watch him again, but Lennox don’t pull crowds like Tyson.
@derekathomson
4 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis was building up to a fight with Tyson. He was fighting short guys to prepare. He fought Ray Mercer and was damned lucky to get the decision win. Because his coaches/management saw him struggle and didn't believe he was ready for Tyson, he took a payment to step back and try again at a later date. I believe it was a $3m payment. By the time they got around to meeting in the ring, Tyson had faded a lot and his life was crazy outside of the ring. Lennox was a great fighter also, but in their primes, Tyson would have won.
@Norwegian733
2 жыл бұрын
Lewis wanted to meet Tyson right after he came out of jail. It was like; "I have a window now and this is my chanse". But because Tyson was prohibited to meet him due to contract with HBO, he waited until Tyson had become a "one punch boxer".
@johndeagle4389
5 жыл бұрын
According to Lennox Lewis:" Mike Tyson never knocked me out in four days.He did give me a fat lip but I gave him a bloody nose, too.''
@Sorted906
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson was heavyweight champion of the world, while an older Lennox Lewis was preparing for the olympics. Let that sink in a bit
@Lewis-zq5ws
3 жыл бұрын
Only a years difference in age and look at Lewis’s resume one of the best ever
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@Lewis-zq5ws In reality, no it isn't. It's actually one of the most overrated resumes for a heavyweight. Guys who were past their prime or overrated. Never will bes and Tyson's scraps. "Wins" against Mercer and Klitschko. Refused to give Vitali a rematch. Never fought his brother after proclaiming he'd beat both brothers. Fighting McCall (rematch) when the guy had recently been arrested, was fucked up on drugs, and mentally unfit to fight. Ducked, at least, four guys. The match with Bowe never happened because, in part, Lewis priced himself out on multiple occasions. Yeah, that's a super resume Lewis has got there. 👌
@dirtyandnasty9011
Жыл бұрын
The reason Lennox was at the olympics while Tyson was turning pro is because Mike tried to qualify too, winning gold was one of his dreams, but he failed to qualify. He lost to Tillman. Due to the good abilities he showed he was given a second chance. He lost again. So no olympics for Mike. What a boxer does if he can't represent his country in olympics ? He can either search a job in a factory or turn pro boxer. He chose the second with the success we know. So no, Lennox is not inferior because he fought as an "amateur" while Tyson was already pro, it's the contrary.
@dirtyandnasty9011
Жыл бұрын
@@bubufubu Lewis offered to make the fight with none earning anything and everything going for Africa. Bowe still didn't want to fight. So no it was not a problem with the price Lennox was asking.
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@dirtyandnasty9011 None of this changes the indisputable fact that Lewis' resume, as a pro, is vastly overrated.
@transportman3498
4 жыл бұрын
Wow. Now that makes perfect sense. There is no way Tyson would normally lose to Lennox. Tyson fought drugged up. Tyson was the best ever in his prime. Its upsetting to think what Tyson would have done had he stayed straight. Prime Tyson was incredible. Tyson is very humble and never mentions knocking Lewis out. Lewis admits that Tyson got the best of him but leaves out the details that Tyson knocked him out
@eshay8546
3 жыл бұрын
Ive watched Lewis interviews over the years and studied his body language everything, he does hide things, you can just tell, Mike is the most straight up person you'd ever meet, Lewis has a big ego, he's very competitive but he lies alot
@wrotedog
2 жыл бұрын
Don queen 👑 corrupted a young Mike Tyson after he was taken from Kevin Rooney.
@jamesallen8917
2 жыл бұрын
He fought a load of bums, every time he fought a live one he lost bum tyson
@lyrickoner
2 жыл бұрын
Calm down. It was sparring. This kinda thing happens. In a real fight, things might've gone differently. Tyson got KO'd by Douglas in his prime.
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@lyrickoner Tyson was past his prime when he fought Douglas. Please do some actual research and stop going, solely, by age. Thanks.
@mallafets
3 ай бұрын
At that time of their lives Tyson would have hammered Lennox. This is why the Tyson and Lewis peaks were over a decade apart. Different bodies and maturity. Tyson peaked early 20s and Lewis early 30s.
@Geez01
4 жыл бұрын
That's why Lennox Lewis strategically stayed away from Tyson during those early years, his handlers knew the right time to put him in with Mike. Mike was on his way out by the early 2000's
@eshay8546
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 100% at the end of the Vitaly Klitschko fight Vitali Klitschko offered him a rematch and Lewis's team came running in yelling "no no no no!"
@alexnajarianmusic
3 жыл бұрын
If this is true, why hasn't Mike Tyson or Lennox Lewis mentioned it??
@dirtyandnasty9011
Жыл бұрын
Yes it's weird, you could say friendship secret or shit like that but Arnie Boem doesn't say that either, he only says Mike got Lennox bloody. going to his corner after the 1st round. Maybe he knocked him down, that would be understandable as they say he surprised him as he fought like it was a real fight and Lennox didn't expect it. But anyway Arnie says he eventualy got his number so case closed. It's like you say Rahman is better because he knocked him out. Yes he surprised him, but Lennox proved it was an accident and he was way better. I think it's the same thing, if Mike Koed him by surprise in the 1st sparring round, so what ? If Lennox then wins the sparrings he shows he's the best fighter.
@WeskerXM96E1
6 жыл бұрын
Ah but c'mon now, there is lots of sparring stories with people, top fighters even going down. But didn't Tyson team have to pay Lewis so as not to fight him?
@kopklop9146
2 жыл бұрын
Lewis didnt want to be pro till 88 guess why🤔
@alcottdevalte7440
6 жыл бұрын
joe egan is a great guy, I have watched a tyson interview when he visited uk and he said the same that he once ko`d lennox lewis
@chunkyfxdls1878
6 жыл бұрын
alcott devalte He’s fucking full of shit ✊🏻
@alcottdevalte7440
6 жыл бұрын
tyson says he knocked lewis out of the ring at 14:37; kzitem.info/news/bejne/s2mpy6iFgXuqh3o
@chunkyfxdls1878
6 жыл бұрын
End of the day it means Fuck all does it when it's sparring.Tyson as good as he was in the late 80's was nothing more than a myth.... He really didn't beat any great boxers!!!
@alcottdevalte7440
6 жыл бұрын
tyson beat trevor berbick, tony tucker, james smith, michael spinks, he ko`d an 38 year old holmes who holyfield couldn`t ko when he was 42 and nobody else could ko him... I agree that competition got better in the 90`s but he had fired trainer kevin rooney after spinks fight in 88 and declined as a fighter really fast...
@chunkyfxdls1878
6 жыл бұрын
alcott devalte You highlighted only one great heavyweight and was old and hadn't fought for years so doesn't really count... Tyson also got KO'd by 'buster' Douglas and Danny Williams. Tyson was great for maybe 2years but didn't beat any hall of fame boxers so to me and a lot of others he will always be a 'myth'
@AndyRaze
6 жыл бұрын
Lewis was almost perfect. Mike was amazing but Lennox toyed with him. You all say he was past his prime but Lennox is older than Mike. It's not Lewis's fault Mike's career went the way it did, he took care of his own business and had one of the best heavyweight records - because he was the bollocks.
@amun1999
5 жыл бұрын
Andy Swain everyone dont age in there prime the same
@jamesordwayultralightpilot
3 жыл бұрын
Lewis was in the amateurs when Tyson was knocking out every pro Heavyweight they could put in front of him. You let a guy 2 years younger than you take his sweet time coming up to challenge you after you've been champ for almost 10 years and see what happens. If Mike had taken his time fighting once a year for 15 years Lewis would've had a lot shittier record because everytime he fought Mike he'd go home with an L. If Holyfield or Lewis fought Mike before he went to prison they'd have both gotten rocked and woke up on the canvas. Time catches up to all champions. It has nothing to do with age.
@kopklop9146
2 жыл бұрын
Lewis waited till 88 to be pro, guess why🤔
@micahhall3731
2 жыл бұрын
😆 Lewis fought Tyson 16 years after Tyson won his heavyweight belt. GTFOH... Youngest heavyweight champion ever! Ripped through the division faster than anyone in history. GOAT! Baddest Man On The Planet! Holyfield was a light weight and would of got destroyed coming up in weight.
@chrismason4449
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson paid Lewis 4 million to step aside so that he could fight Bruce Seldon, and after that he fought Holyfield instead of Lewis because he thought Holyfield was an easier opponent!
@bderek136
4 жыл бұрын
Tyson is the most feared Boxer ever. This is down to his Animal aggression and killer instinct in the ring. He did not care who you were, that man was a killing machine. He was also a killing fearsome machine outside of the ring. You would mess with him at your own peril.It's good to see mike is doing well and has so much humility.
@061577lynt
2 жыл бұрын
No…that would be foreman
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@061577lynt The story goes that Tyson was afraid to fight Foreman. Whether or not that's legit, I don't know. Given the media coverage (e.g. body language, results, and interviews) available to the public since the 80's, it's fair to argue that multiple guys were afraid of Tyson. While Foreman may have enjoyed an equal or greater advantage, in terms of instilling fear, Clay and Holyfield sure as hell were not afraid of him.
@markneal7406
7 ай бұрын
Sonny Liston was a very intimidating man even Tyson says it.
@Ghost-rv8ho
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for speaking the truth
@rentalife
6 жыл бұрын
I knew Mike beat Lewis!
@easygrin1127
3 жыл бұрын
Joe is lying though
@SgtKnievel
3 жыл бұрын
Joe is being 100 percent honest. Rooney trained Mike Tyson was superior to any version of Lennox Lewis. Lennox needs to keep it real and admit to what really happened during their sparring sessions. Joe is not the only witness who saw Lennox fall on his butt. There are more youtube video of witnesses who can agree to this
@easygrin1127
3 жыл бұрын
@@SgtKnievel like who? How come Mike Tyson did not touch upon the subject when he was ranting before their fight? Seems odd that he forgot knocking out one off the top 3 fighters of the 90s?
@SgtKnievel
3 жыл бұрын
@@easygrin1127 Mike Tyson did talk about it. He said he knocked him out of the ring. Just as how Joe witnessed it.
@SgtKnievel
3 жыл бұрын
@@easygrin1127 there are also other witnesses with interviews on youtube explaining how Tyson gave Lewis a beating so bad he had to take days off to heal in-between their sparring sessions.
@lazur1
4 жыл бұрын
Tyson'86 had a GREAT chance vs ANYONE. Just don't assume it's a sure thing vs Liston'59, Ali'65 , Foreman'73, Lewis'99.
@Dracbrewer
2 жыл бұрын
Loved & Love this thank you!
@RB-ey6fm
4 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson would have destroyed Lewis when they were in their 20s, when they did eventually get it on all the odds were in Lewis's favor. Tyson was the most ferocious heavyweight the world has ever seen in my opinion.🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
@Solarmass7-7
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I’m saving this for. My records. Lewis will never go on record and admit this. I heard about it but of when Lewis speaks about it he leaves out the details. Mike, my humble guy doesn’t even speak on it.
@TonyEnglandUK
4 жыл бұрын
Well ask Mike himself. _"There's no way I could beat Lennox Lewis, he's just too big, too strong, a consummate fighter."_ And tell everyone, without using the words "if", "but" or "prime", who won when Tyson and Lewis fought?
@WolfsH0ok
4 жыл бұрын
By 1989 Tyson was just fighting for the money. Hed had enough of the pressure and people leaching off him When he won the title in 86 Jake Lamotta warned him, that world champs attract the garbage. Beware of garbage
@braddivac3561
4 жыл бұрын
Actually, I do remember one time when Mike said in what seemed to be a very calm and honest manner that the first time he and Lewis spared he knocked Lewis out of the ring in Catskill. But he also said that later it became closer as they spared more days.
@bubufubu
Жыл бұрын
@@TonyEnglandUK Please explain to the rest of the world why context is irrelevant, idiot.
@TonyEnglandUK
Жыл бұрын
@@bubufubu I don't think you're intelligent enough to understand even if I did. And calm down, princess, ok? Thanks.
@SuperDaish
2 жыл бұрын
Tyson also speaks highly of Joe whenever the subject comes up on mikes podcast
@TheMaster47x
6 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t doubt it, Tyson didn’t hold back in sparring and Lewis was chinny
@joejoyce9979
6 жыл бұрын
Okay so Lewis was chinny, But Tyson has treble the amount of knockout losses that Lewis has so what does that say about Tysons chin?
@TheMaster47x
6 жыл бұрын
I don't claim Tyson had the best of chins either, but Tyson never got knocked out like Lewis did twice, Lewis literally didn't know where he was. The difference between Tyson's knockout losses and Lewis' is that Tyson you could see was getting worn down and tired and the stoppage was coming, not necessarily due to his chin but more due to his stamina, whereas when Lewis got sparked it was completely different, he got hit by one punch that changed the whole dynamic of those fights, he went from being well in those fights, looking good, to looking like a damn zombie. Lewis had perhaps the definition of a glass chin, he just covered it better than other guys with glass chins because he was actually a decent boxer and didn't get hit that clean too often. Also, your logic is flawed, Joe Frazier got knocked out twice by Foreman meaning he has the same number of knockout losses as Lennox, are you going to try to tell me Lennox's chin was as good as Frazier's because they have the same number of knockout losses lol?
@joejoyce9979
6 жыл бұрын
How many power punchers did Fraizer face? I can only name one - Foreman, and foreman blitzed him inside two rounds. Bounced him off the floor like a basketball. also Ali rocked fraizer several times, Lewis might of been kod twice, but in his other 42 fights he showed a solid chin, He took bombs from prime 6ft8 250lb Vitaly Klitscko that i don't think 205lb fraizer would've taken, he took hits from 245lb david tua, 230lb Shannon Briggs, 230lb Tommy Morrison, 240lb ray mercer, none of those guys could put Lewis down.
@TheHumbuckerboy
6 жыл бұрын
Tyson should have been holding back if he was a honourable person. Sparring isn't about trying to KO your sparring partner !
@BigMike_RTTV
6 жыл бұрын
TheHumbuckerboy Nope train like you fight and fight like you train. When you fight your opponent isn’t gonna hold back so why do it in sparring?
@wrotedog
4 жыл бұрын
I like lennox lewis but he let 2 belts go, 1 against john ruiz and 1 against chris byrd. Held on to the WBC one. They both would have given him trouble.. I like mike tyson also, but don king messed up his legacy and he was never the same.. Facts..
@champchamp2841
6 жыл бұрын
Wen mike tyson turned pro at the age of 20 and become world champ at that time lewis was 22 and still fighting at ameture. Says it really
@elijahrobinson2362
6 жыл бұрын
Lennox was sent home by Tyson’s team after sparring...because he was working Tyson. The team knew they would meet and didn’t want to give Lewis any more knowledge. Being knocked down during sparring early on isn’t the same thing when a partner is brought in...the sparring partner is brought in for the main guy, not to beat him up. Lennox did that as the camp wore on...and Cus knew what was going to happen.
@alexfla123
6 ай бұрын
Were you there?
@johndawhale3197
6 жыл бұрын
90 seconds in and already the host is spreading misinformation.....
@BlackPrimeMinister
6 жыл бұрын
THIS IS CLASS.
@anthonyryan5122
6 жыл бұрын
A really down to Earth good guy, had the pleasure of dining with him in Blackpool, Tiramisu Italian restaurant, along with Tim Witherspoon and big brother winner Craig Phillips, a most enjoyable evening after a nights boxing at the old Syndicate night club Sept 2008. i Have not seen Joe since so I hope he is in good form.
@ryang790
6 жыл бұрын
fucking hell be fair lennox lewis was just a teenager then... I know tyson was but he was a freak of nature or possibly given roids as a teenager..
@rapmenn
6 жыл бұрын
People talk trash that lennox will beat tyson anytime, but forget that they had sparing at 15-16 yers old.
@lennoxmate4064
5 жыл бұрын
RaPMeN yeah when Tyson was built like a man and about to turn pro. Lewis was a skinny underdeveloped amateur that would remain amateur for five more years. It’s irrelevant. What about a light heavyweight Holyfield besting Tyson in sparring in 84?
@viqasparverz4455
6 жыл бұрын
Ive met joe in a gym in b'ham , he is genuine a really nyc man .
@ketchup5344
6 жыл бұрын
Great stories from a cool guy ✌🏽
@wezzbeet2923
2 жыл бұрын
I saw that black guy years ago does a good Mike Tysoe impression
@benopoly0000
4 жыл бұрын
Big joe told lenny from the Simpsons everything to say at the beginning
@franlong4689
3 ай бұрын
50 / 50 spar at the time I would say Read Lennox Lewis biography very good The spar happened late 1983 just after Lewis won the World jr championships Lewis beat Craig Payne who went on to beat Tyson Tyrell biggs & Tefelio. Stevenson The USA team mentioned to Lennox he should seek out Mike Tyson as Tyson was USA no 1 Super Heavyweight & junior level. Tyson didn't travel so that's why they sent Craig Payne. The USA team coach also mentioned that Tyson possibly would of won World championships if he had competed. LEWIS won the Gold medal in Porta rico. When Lewis got home from World Championships himself & his coach travelled by car from Canada to the caskills mountains to spar Tyson they sparred & the spars were even
@MajikATX
2 ай бұрын
I wonder when this video was originally filmed .... Some random Person on a Facebook group got mad for me saying Tyson KOed Lennox in a sparring session... Honestly I could of sworn I heard Emanuel steward talk about it but cant find any tape...
@LiamGalvinFilm
2 ай бұрын
I would think around 2008 - cheers
@BarrySlisk
6 жыл бұрын
He sounds like a cool dude.
@nigelbase1196
7 ай бұрын
Joe Egan was nothing more than a punch bag for Tyson!
@timbo4306
6 жыл бұрын
Great guy is Joe
@daveyboy_
6 жыл бұрын
What language is this guy speaking ?
@G-Man78
3 жыл бұрын
4:17 THANK ME LATER
@conartist267
6 жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@smoke3571985
5 жыл бұрын
Tyson in his Prime no fighter in the history of boxing besides Ali would have a chance
@deanwaller8283
5 жыл бұрын
Oh just fuck off....young George foreman would have torn mike's head off his shoulders in under 3 rounds
@johnnybs7
6 жыл бұрын
who the fuck is this geezer anyway? He's built an entire career around the fact that he sparred Tyson when Tyson was about 14 years old.. What else has he done?
@Orangutan_Stella
3 жыл бұрын
And Oliver Macall
@sugs1191
4 жыл бұрын
Although I rate Tyson as superior. I believe this story. I've also heard Tyson say he knocked him out cold BUT that Lewis was underdeveloped at the time. I don't know if they are referring to the same instance
@TMAdventuresT7
4 жыл бұрын
Ho no, didn’t want hear this because there’s proof in the pudding 8th round Pyramid Arena 2002 IBF IBO WBC were on the line , not good to speak of Lenox like that 🤔
@stevenfinch7086
6 жыл бұрын
Tyson a great champ but he always struggled with tall boxers Lennox the mist underrated boxer ever and the most intelligent
@mattkylie6723
5 жыл бұрын
Tell me one fighter challenger or champion Lewis fought that wasn’t either beaten or washed up!!????
@lazur1
6 жыл бұрын
He sparred with Tyson. He never fought him.
@DJmonAtomic
6 жыл бұрын
sparring is different because when you are in fight camp you are weak, tired, dieting and all you wanna do is eat pizza and put yer fight up and all your sparring partners are generally not in fight camp and full of energy. sparring is different to fighting i know for a fact i fight
@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555
6 жыл бұрын
According to Big Joe Egan, Mike Tyson knocked Lennox Lewis out! Lol He said he witnessed this behind the scenes sparring session they had behind closed doors and this was when Tyson matured. He also said that Tyson was drugged up when he fought Lewis in 2002 and was a shell of his self, but this is common knowledge for anyone who's examined both of their careers, because everyone knows Tyson was washed up by the time Lewis got him. And it is true that Tyson was on medication during that time period,(Don't take my word for it...all you gotta do is look it up) but never any confirmation on it that he was on it for the fight, although he did look docile. As for the sparring session he witnessed, (unless he's lying about it, which I doubt, because it sounds pretty convincing to me) if he was there to see it, we'd have to take his word on it unless someone else comes out and gives a different take of what he witnessed. My closing thoughts is what I've always said that Lennox Lewis could of never beat the prime 1988 Mike Tyson, I've always said this. Tyson was too fast, and he would never let Lewis established his distance or jab because of his side to side head movement and his ability to cut the ring off taking away the jab and uppercuts that Lewis would try and throw and Tyson also was a good body puncher, so he would go downstairs and set him up with right hand and left hook counters to the body when he tried to shoot his uppercuts using aggressive counter punching that Tyson was great at and never gets credit for. Jose Ribalta can tell you, he fought the prime Mike Tyson and he also sparred with Lennox Lewis and has went on record giving his take on a fight between the 80s Tyson and Lewis fighting. I'm sure Jose never heard anything about this, but he's already been on record saying the prime Tyson he fought would KO Lennox Lewis. Lennox Lewis is a good fighter, can't take that away from him, but he's made more out to be than what he was. I would take Lewis over any heavyweight now, but when people say Lewis would be a bad style matchup for all the atg's and beat any of them, that I can't agree with. He would win some but he would lose a lot too. A very good heavyweight though. But he has no chance against the prime Tyson.
@johnyboy19685
6 жыл бұрын
Kenny Lopez while i agree lennox was a good boxer he was also managed very well quite a few of his opponents were fought when they were on slide down and past their best. He also lost to hasim rachman who wasnt a great fighter at all and on his own admission stated that he wouldnt have fancied taking on a young tyson. Most fighters have lost to someone at some time even the best fighters and it can be surprising who they lose to. In my opinion a 1988 tyson would have beaten lennox he was to quick too difficult to hit and punched in hard combinations lewis would be made for him. A later tyson with lottle head movement relying on one punch knockouts was made for lennox jab and use his superior reach let him yire and knock him out.
@unbornbum3700
6 жыл бұрын
yeah he was old and washed up when he fought lewis but he wasn't old and washed up when he fought james douglas, in fact he was barely 23 y/o and he got utterly destroyed by JD and JD isn't on the same level as LL... not even close.
@unbornbum3700
6 жыл бұрын
geefunk no he wasn't. read his book, he said nothing about partying or taking drugs before fighting douglas, he said he had an affair with the hotel maids but big deal, Ali was smashing women in africa before he kod big george. Tyson got his overrated ass exposed.
@alcottdevalte7440
6 жыл бұрын
I found a good interview, tyson says he knocked lewis out of the ring at 14:37; kzitem.info/news/bejne/s2mpy6iFgXuqh3o
@lucasm3879
6 жыл бұрын
I can't be bothered watching this right now, I've just read the title, but the guy is one of Mike Tyson's best friends so he's totally biased. When was it supposed to have happened? They only sparred when they were teenagers. Even if it did happen (and I read a lot about the history of both fighters, and I've never heard it mentioned before), it wouldn't really mean anything when they were 15 or 16. Henry Tillman beat Tyson twice in the amateurs, but look what happened in the pro's. They were actual amateur fights, Egan is talking about teenage sparring here, so Tyson fans don't cling to this biased interview as support for your argument of prime Tyson beating prime Lewis.
@VitalYFZ
5 жыл бұрын
"Henry Tillman beat Tyson twice in the amateurs" No, Henry Tillman never beat Tyson as an amateur. Not really beat him that is. Have you seen those fights? Tyson beat the snot out of Tillman. He dropped Tillman and even knocked him out of the ropes I believe. The problem is, in the amateurs they count a little insignificant jab the same as a crushing blow that drops someone. They are each a point which is ridiculous. Tillman was running trying to survive taking a lot of damage while Tyson caught a few very light punches. As you saw in the real fight, Tyson KO'd him in 1.
@lucasm3879
6 жыл бұрын
Lewis and Tyson didn't spar when they were '20 or 21'. That's complete bullshit. It's when they were 15 or 16. At 20, Tyson was champion, they didn't spar then. Interviewer is talkng shit.
@cameronpickard7456
5 жыл бұрын
some sides say tyson some say lewis won,wonder what's the truth,i'd bet tyson
@jasonphillips5816
6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Joe is a nice guy and he had a fairly decent amateur career but his Pro record is a joke, he got beaten and cut by Denroy Bryan a guy whose record ended up as 26 losses and 7 wins. If Tyson couldn't KO him then Joe must have been wearing a bouncy castle around his head as a head-guard .
@craigfromscotland5272
3 жыл бұрын
Bullshit ... Lennox lewis has the videos of there sparring and tells a very different story as does teddy atlas who was there
@mikem591
6 жыл бұрын
Lewis was made to order from a prime Tyson. He already had put him to sleep. The Tyson LL fought in 2002 was drugged out and probably took a dive.
@upturnedblousecollar5811
Жыл бұрын
lmao now the Tyson fangirls are seriously claiming Mike _"took a dive"_ haha
@lazur1
6 жыл бұрын
I saw film of Tyson sparring with Lewis. Did they edit a ko? I have doubts. Lewis is older than Tyson. Are we supposed to think less of him because he DIDN'T fuck up.
@snoopbell1
4 жыл бұрын
Older than Tyson ..BUT STAYED IN AMATURES LONGER TO HIDE LOL
@lazur1
4 жыл бұрын
@@snoopbell1 Lewis himself has said that Tyson matured quickly and he himself matured slowly. That's not a good excuse for Tyson sucking by the time he turned 23.
@emmettoliver1135
6 жыл бұрын
That's amazing
@n.w.owhoknowstheshadowknow58
5 жыл бұрын
Emmett Oliver he would smash beta male Lewis
@neilfagan1011
6 жыл бұрын
Joe is a top man
@redprince1000
5 жыл бұрын
Prime Lewis beats Prime Tyson imo.
@Guvna07
6 жыл бұрын
Was the host sponsored by Samsung?
@chefsix8077
6 жыл бұрын
Fact is lewis knocked out Tyson in the fight lol sparring is sparring lol
@chunkyfxdls1878
6 жыл бұрын
Name 1 great fighter Mike Tyson beat??
@colinme2672
5 жыл бұрын
Michael Spinks, Razor Ruddock....
@CajunRulez
5 жыл бұрын
Larry Holmes, Pinklon Thomas, James Tillis, Trevor Berbick, Frank Bruno, Tony Tucker. All just as solid as Lewis's faux great opponents. What? A Tyson who hadn't been interested in boxing since 1989. An over the hill, beat up Holyfield(one draw and a 12 rd. decision). So who else did the great Lewis beat? Got flattened by Oliver McCall and Haseem Rahman LOL!!! So who? Frans Botha. An old Tyson knocked him out. David Tua? Over hyped bum. Barely escaped with his ass intact against Vitali. So come on. Give that list of greats that Lewis beat. I'm waiting.
@colinme2672
5 жыл бұрын
@@CajunRulez exactly
@lennoxmate4064
5 жыл бұрын
CajunRulez so Tyson beat a past it Holmes that had been out of the ring for two years and only had six weeks notice to prepare and hadn’t won a fight in three years. Tills? A journeyman that was on a three fight losing streak? Berbick a tough but limited contender that beat a shopworn former drug addict for a belt? Bruno a big puncher that lost his biggest fights? Tucker was a good victory but he wasn’t great was he? Thomas was damaged goods from drug abuse and was past his best which was proved when Berbick beat him. Tyson was amazing for three rounds. After that he fought in spurts. If an opponent was talented with power and not intimidated and got through the first three rounds they had a great chance against Mike. He dominated a weak era for three years. Lewis proved himself the best heavyweight of his generation in the second toughest heavyweight era ever. Tyson never avenged a defeat and quit in the second Holyfield fight. He got disqualified rather than be knocked out again.
@johnnybs7
5 жыл бұрын
who.the.fuck.is.joe egan????????????????
@markrawson7698
6 жыл бұрын
Lewis in early days wasnt great. He had alot to learn. Tyson exploded onto scene. Even if tyson was his old self and lewis at his best. Same out come was possible
@andymcnab2.0
7 ай бұрын
Joe was an below average boxer
@markgould9259
3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha Joe Egan appendage
@benizzz
6 жыл бұрын
sparing dont mean shit tho..
@lfcstevieg2020
6 жыл бұрын
Who is this fella? I looked up both tyson and lewis record and he is in neither of them.
@rottweiller8759
4 жыл бұрын
Yet Tyson says he knocked him threw the rope and Lennox jumped up and went after him and cus broke it up and says that’s enough you two will fight one day Lewis says the same but this guy must be telling the truth??
@wyndhl9465
5 жыл бұрын
C'est un grand discours.
@truthsayer9847
6 жыл бұрын
So Tyson was world champion and he knocked out an amateur! Big deal, the pro game is a whole different ball game. Also Lewis knocked out Tyson as soon as he was told to. Watch the fight and that will be confirmed.
@aintmyshit
6 жыл бұрын
He's talking like he actually fought these people, professionally..... lol
@SuperChalkster
6 жыл бұрын
talking about 15 year olds sparring, dear me.
@terryford3028
6 жыл бұрын
Even in sherlock holmes 😁
@warrenthomas3168
5 жыл бұрын
Jo egon is a FLUFFER!!!
@benmatheson1189
4 жыл бұрын
Lennox wont release the tapes sparing says it all
@andymac3820
3 жыл бұрын
you're an idiot, you know where the sparring was held don't you? here's a guess it wasn't in lewis's gym it was in the catskill gym.Lewis doesn't have ownership of the sparring tapes.. Lewis won 2 outta 3 in the days of them sparring.
@benmatheson1189
3 жыл бұрын
@@andymac3820 lewis has admitted he had the tapes do your research
@nightonthetiles6923
6 жыл бұрын
Sparring and amateurs is nothing compared to professional.. Only learning basics and anything can Happen.. Doesn't mean shit... Oh and just for the record a prime Larry holmes would have destroyed both tyson and lewis
@stusmithmmm
5 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes..... But when it mattered Lewis went straight through Tyson. Lennox was the victor!! Wether your thinking 'oh ... it was a bad Mike Tyson ' or ' he was over the hill ' ... I'm not disputing that , I'm simply pointing out that on the night of a professional fight when they came together Tyson lost. That's what's in the history books folks. Sorry. But true.
@Ul-Haq
3 жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with that. Tyson today would humbly accept his defeat to Lennox.
@Ar1AnX1x
5 жыл бұрын
Lennox Lewis fans claim to be logical and a boxing expert but their whole logic is since lewis beat holyfield and tyson at the end of their career therefore he beat the best and therefore he's the greatest. it's easy to compare results and numbers and lewis has it lewis got better as the years went, tyson however if you know his life story you know how downhill he went both in the ring and outside the only thing you know is that lewis beat him at his peak when mike was at his worst, and in 6 rounds so why does it mean lewis could do the same when he wasn't that good in the 80's and mike was at his peak, how the fuck?! cuz he's big and strong? tyson never fought anyone smaller than him so why would he struggle? he only beat tyson because he couldn't dodge punches anymore, peak tyson was a master at being elusive he would bodypunch the shit out of lewis he only beat tyson when he was on drugs, old, and a shell of himself and if you don't agree with that don't claim to be logical lewis is a clown that starts show boating when he's controlling the fight and gets knocked out tyson would ko them in the first round when he was in control he wouldnt need 6 fucking rounds of controlling to beat something and lewis isn't underrated, he's actually overrated he's a great fighter and a very boring and uninteresting and over-confident person
@kerrenhayer8077
3 жыл бұрын
Not buying any of this
@G-Man78
3 жыл бұрын
Why ? He said it in public. On film. He is friends with both fighters lol. Tyson is not the type to boast about sparring as a teen especially when he got beaten down as an adult. Lewis has an enormous ego. I'd go with this guy's story over Lennox's.
@nobbytang
6 жыл бұрын
Tyson was a extremely fast , powerful , skilled fighter who peaked for about 2 years ....but nice Don King cut the old cus dmato link by firing kevin Rooney and co it was rapidly down hill ....all the head movement went and he became convinced that he was a single punch knock out artist ....rubbish he was a multiple punch knock out artist !!....
@michaeleccles5373
6 жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson could have knocked anybody out pre-prison.....he could've also got knocked out off anybody too....Buster Douglas is no better than a dillian whyte of today and he banged Tyson out.
@Zlartybartfarst
6 жыл бұрын
Grass.
@antonioridah172
5 жыл бұрын
Anyone that knows anything about boxing knows its mostly mental after getting pass been in great shape Tyson before robin givens Mike destroys most cats that he had problems with after prison quickly but u cant blame the ones that beat him or take nothing away from them its Mike job to separate personal from business.
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