Hi Michael. I am afraid you are wrong regarding the color of the original cover! I happen to have the original first US pressing, and the yellow is absolutely clean without any shadows! It is only slightly textured, but the color is pure yellow!😉
@Michael45RPM
2 жыл бұрын
wow cool thx a lot!
@andrewlee9886
2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2nd pressing (Bergenfield, fireworks), ~1958, and there is subtle shading to the yellow, definitely not pure solid yellow. Kind of in between the two reissues.
@bmwolverton
2 жыл бұрын
I studied audio engineering at university and practiced outside, and I want to bring up an important topic about mastering to everyone. It is the final polish of an album, as you only have access to the final mix or the channels of that recording. Mixing, not mastering, is where most of the sound characteristics of the recording come from: sound stage (due to panning), initial compression, EQ etc. Knowing that and that this album was originally recorded mono, tells you there’s not a ton to be done outside of what is already there. From what I’ve heard, Bernie’s signal path tends to be the most revealing or analytical of anyones, which means his mastering “gets out of the way” of the music the most. I believe the Kevin Grey mastering probably rolled off the upper frequencies and that warmed up the final presentation to make it ever so slightly more palatable to everyone, not to say that his isn’t extremely revealing and analytical as well (I love everything he does but I have come to give him a 9 and Bernie a 10). It seems to my ear that Bernie’s mastering revealed what Miles wanted out of his trumpet at this time and this album, and what Van Gelder wanted from the mix. And that was - an in your face delivery of the trumpet. This was not cut hot - it was played, recorded and mixed hot.
@BattManion1979
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you buy a dozen of each
@techrider2088
2 жыл бұрын
There’s a double album put out by Prestige in 1972 called “Miles Davis”. It contains both albums “Relaxin’ with the Miles Davis Quintet” and “Cookin’ with the Miles Davis Quintet”. It is remastered by Rudy Van Gelder. I compared the Craft to this old reissue. The 1972 reissue is more detailed with more air and every instrument has greater richness and body. The muted trumpet is not shrill but in good balance with the other instruments. I prefer this old reissue over the Craft. In fact if I were to sum it up; I’d say it sounds more alive than the Craft without any of the excessive forward nature of the Craft. .
@Jamko1970
2 жыл бұрын
The Craft Bernie Grundman cut sounds like they are live right in front of you. Great mastering & pressing.
@georgelydakis2652
2 жыл бұрын
Jammko, how clear our the all the other instruments on the Craft version? I have the Analogue Productions SACD, and it is very muddy.
@Jamko1970
2 жыл бұрын
@@georgelydakis2652 they are very clear. Sounds amazing, worth the money.
@analoguecity3454
2 жыл бұрын
I don't have one "super vinyl" LP! I'm excited about getting my first one! Thanks for the informative videos Michael, we really appreciate your contributions to our community!
@joex2504
Жыл бұрын
The sound on this 3 months old video is much better and higher than the one year old videos that I've previously watched. Thank you Michael for the improvement !
@mauricioassis4500
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing review as usual Michael. I have them both and the Craft one has a little bit of an edge in my opinion. It is hot indeed and it sounds like the band is playing in your living room. Thank you for the video! 🙏
@penguinshoes6256
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Small Batch recording of Relaxin. The mix is sooooo hot, bright, and has a lot of treble. This is one of the best jazz albums in my collection
@The90sGamingGuy
2 жыл бұрын
I have the Analogue Productions vinyl SACD and the Prestige XRCD of this album. I do like the smooth analog sound of the AP vinyl of this fantastic album. I agree we will see a repress of Relaxin from AP in the future.
@davidjurney
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I wish I had the Analogue Productions version to compare but I love the Craft Small Batch release. This is one of my top three favorite Miles Davis albums. Fortunately, nothing about it struck me as analytical on my more modest system.
@jasonarsenault3791
2 жыл бұрын
Love these comparisons. Great job as always Michael.
@leoarreaza9131
2 жыл бұрын
I listened to my Relaxin album by Craft and Miles sounds very bright compared to the other instruments, a very staccato sound, but I think his sound is wholesome, definitely warmer. Thank you for your always interesting insight.
@Jackgrahamphotograph
2 жыл бұрын
Each will sound different on different systems.. amps. Speakers.. cartridges, cables etc... I agree the the Craft is a but in some systems one will sound better than the other, What great music.... Wouldn't it be great to have a box set of the 4 last Miles Prestige recordings. Another informative video!!! Thanks--J
@The90sGamingGuy
2 жыл бұрын
It would be great if we got a box set like that. I would buy it.
@djjoeykmusic
Жыл бұрын
Great video Michael Well done. Thank you
@nathanverni9143
2 жыл бұрын
Relaxin is my favorite Miles Davis album. I ordered the Analogue Productions back in February when that video went out telling people to order everything even though it was back ordered. Still no sign of it, unfortunately. I will say if any record would benefit from a warmer pressing, it would be Relaxin, its a very shrill recording.
@ergloo6660
2 жыл бұрын
You are correct I saw that video and ordered nearly everything in the series especially as Chad seemed to indicate that this might be the last time they were repressed
@nathanverni9143
2 жыл бұрын
@@ergloo6660 yes. I can’t argue with the quality of the AP pressings, but I would say the vagueness and lack of clarity around what is in and out of print or available is misleading. It creates an artificial sense of scarcity.
@clumsiloe
2 жыл бұрын
My copy was faulty. Had crackling and popping sounds sound through some of it… been in contact with Craft, but they seem to be having a long think about it (6 days so far). I have to say, that is not good enough. I have had lightening quick service from MoFi, Third Man, VMP, and even Acoustic Sounds were quicker than this… (and the problem I had was not with one of ‘their’ records)… the wait goes on while they think about what to do.
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
Craft used a dodgy/ “cheap as chips” courier in the UK and lost my “Art Pepper - Rhythm Section”. Craft / Concord won’t replace or refund. Be warned
@MarcovanB
Жыл бұрын
@@UFO_computers I cancelled my remaining orders with Craft when their fulfilment house went under.
@pabelkabel8865
2 жыл бұрын
Please please don’t forget also the back side of the covers, a little bit longer.. thank you for your great job
@davidlawrence79
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison of the AP version vs the new Craft One Step. I’m waiting for the Craft version to arrive in the mail and the back ordered Analog Productions version will arrive eventually. I was on the fence before about ordering both versions, but your video convinced me that I made the right choice ordering both of them! Thank you Michael!
@BattManion1979
2 жыл бұрын
I have an original mono from 1958 that is beat almost to shit....noisy but very playable and sounds great on my system. I will take all the money you have spent on subsequent issues of this LP Michael and feed half of the Dust bowl with it.
@bmwolverton
2 жыл бұрын
Wow. You think we want to listen to noisy beat up copies? Are you high? Are you on the right forum? The right channel? You think we come here to compare this reissue to your scratched up, beat up copy that you “save money” by playing instead? It’s his hobby (and many of ours) to compare reissues, that’s WHY WE WATCH THIS CHANNEL.
@BattManion1979
2 жыл бұрын
@@bmwolverton Yeah, I'm on the right forum. I enjoy the antics of lemmings and douchebags like you who will spend their sister's trust on one re-issue after another...I got the music , I don't need 25 more copies of a record I already own. You'll never enjoy the music more than I already have.
@darkscarf
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Michael, thanks for the review! Mine is still with the worst UK courier, hope I get it by 2030. Quick question, which lacquer is yours cut from? The one with the full Bernie Grundmann signature or with the "BG" initials on the A-side? There are 2 Bernie cuts of this release discovered so far. Looks like Bernie did a cut, and another cut later on (potentially when Craft decided to increase the numbers). People have been discussing if there's any sound difference between them as there may be some time difference between the two cuts.
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
My Hermes ??
@mem.1968
2 жыл бұрын
My copy came in some weeks ago and I waited to unbox it until last Friday. Unfortunately it has had a lot of surface noise and now I’m waiting for Craft to start the replacement process. Other than that it’s perfect, the small batch I mean. Thanks for the comparison tho. Really informative, as I only have the Craft and a Japanese pressing from the 70s.
@clumsiloe
2 жыл бұрын
Me too. Sent videos to Craft but they don’t seem to have a plan on what to do to make it good.
@mem.1968
2 жыл бұрын
@@clumsiloe they responded to me yesterday with suggesting to replace the vinyl only, which is what I need. Seems like they are not equipped to deal with returns or replacements very well. Not too much knowledge about the product itself. They did send the replacement wax out today, I just saw.
@clumsiloe
2 жыл бұрын
I just need a new record as well. Everything else fine.
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
They used a dodgy/ “cheap as chips” courier in the UK and lost my “Art Pepper - Rhythm Section”. Craft / Concord won’t replace or refund. Be warned
@automatedelectronics6062
Жыл бұрын
It's hard to compare record recovers from looking at the pictures from discogs. Looking at the Discogs pictures of the original issue and comparing the covers to the Craft Small batch and OJC versions, I think that those versions are closer to the original release than the AP version. I feel that the OJC version sounds the best to me. I bought my Small Batch version direct from Craft when it was released. I wasn't very happy with the first copy I received. It was noisy and had lots of ticks and pops. Cleaning on my VPI RCM didn't help. I contacted them about the record quality and they couldn't understand it. I emailed them mp3's of some of the worst areas. They couldn't hear what I was complaining about. So next I took screen shots of a sound graph of those areas when playing the record and it was clear the there was something there that shouldn't be. They admitted that there was a problem. Next, they didn't know what to do about a return or a defective record. They sent me a new album sealed in it's jacket just like the original came in inside the box. The replacement was much better. It seems to me that, although pressed by RTI, this Small Batch Craft LP is not as good as the Mofi 'one-steps', which RTI also presses. For overall sound quality, my DCC-Jazz gold CD sounds the best to me.
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
They used a dodgy/ “cheap as chips” courier in the UK and lost my “Art Pepper - Rhythm Section”. Craft / Concord won’t replace or refund me. Be warned
@V1ZNS.
2 жыл бұрын
Chad said in the Fremer vs Esposito Lacquer video that AP is repressing the whole Prestige series. Hopefully that is the case 👍🏼
@theheepster
2 жыл бұрын
It's great how many audiophile releases there are now every month. But I ask myself one question. If there is already a good audiophile LP of Miles Davis Relaxin', why now another one ? Why are masterpieces not yet released in audiophile sound quality? It feels like every year there is a Miles Davis Out of the Blue. And if one already makes a Miles Davis Relaxin, why only 1000 pieces for 100 dollars? Have the companies still not noticed that the audiophile market has grown enormously? This can be seen for example in the fact that you could buy MFSL records in Germany in the past, which is almost impossible today. It pisses me off that you bring a high-quality music product on the market, only for people with fat wallet. Status symbols for music freaks. Blue Note shows that it can be done differently.
@KS-yy2fu
2 жыл бұрын
FYI my japanese Prestige pressing from the mid 70s does have no shades on the yellow. Only grey textures in the drawing were they should be. Great sounding copy in my opinion, so I will stay with it.
@carrion_man3700
5 ай бұрын
The covers back then, especially for some labels, were all over the map. This is mostly in lesser labels, but is definitely an issue with Prestige. In other words, there is often not a single "correct" version.
@davidlg0478
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, enjoyed your video. I ordered my copy immediately it came out , I had a code. No sign of my copy. It was apparently posted two weeks ago. I live in Ireland, really frustrating. You are correct on the cover. The original had that grey shading.
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
Craft and International shipping do NOT mix. they lost my Art Pepper and the Rhythm Section and refused to refund replace or even reply to my messages.
@AnthonyCandaele
2 жыл бұрын
It realy is not my week, this week. After a warped record from Impex, I now get the Relaxin' record from Craft Recording with fingerprints and scratches all over, and on the B-side there is a deep scratch over the length of the record which makes the B-side unplayable. I contacted the distributor, Concord Music, they told me they are awaiting an answer from management concerning the claims (plural!).
@Michael45RPM
2 жыл бұрын
Damn!!!!
@unityoc
10 ай бұрын
7:00 50 dollars for the AP, did you mean to include shipping costs? Even 1 year later the price is 40$.
@entity279
2 жыл бұрын
My copy of relaxing' is being shipped right now from Analogue Productions (along with the companions Steamin' & Cookin') so I'd say it is in print Edit: false alarm. AS shipped some other records from the same order which contained Relaxin' . Waiting continues..
@gonolith
2 жыл бұрын
Those titles are not showing to be in stock. Are you sure you ordered the AP versions?
@entity279
2 жыл бұрын
@@gonolith yes, i preorderd in jan or early february, they have shipped them only a week ago
@gonolith
2 жыл бұрын
@@entity279 I pre-ordered in January also but got no shipping notification. Maybe soon I hope. They must have sold out fast cause I never saw them get relisted as in stock and I check almost daily.
@entity279
2 жыл бұрын
@@gonolith Yeah, it was actually something else they shipped. (Willie's Blues & Gil Evans and Ten ) AS has this silly thing when they charge you the full ammount of the order, ship only 1-2 records, and only later they return the money that were not needed
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
How’s it sounding ??
@billsoutherland5499
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, for my taste, Miles is as hot as the sun on this pressing. I heard his trumpet breaking up at a fairly low volume in some places. It’s certainly louder than anything else throughout. It’s unlistenable at times. For the first time ever I was worried about blowing a tweeter.
@massimomojetta1193
2 жыл бұрын
same impression as you, to much shrill in some part
@Big-J-8579
2 жыл бұрын
I have had mine for a week now but have not listened to it yet. My backlog is pretty high on the Jazz side. Maybe this week. Thanks again!
@lr2475
2 жыл бұрын
The reason why i would prefer the craft one step is that the shipping and taxes are so high from AP that it almost is the same money i'd have to pay. As a US customer i'd go with the AP version but as a europe customer the shipping and taxes are so immensly high
@gabrielchavez31
2 жыл бұрын
My copy came with a few scuffs but craft was quick to replace the vinyl.
@UFO_computers
Жыл бұрын
Craft used a dodgy/ “cheap as chips” courier in the UK and lost my “Art Pepper - Rhythm Section”. Craft / Concord won’t replace or refund. Be warned
@jamierhodes6410
Жыл бұрын
I have a good quality audiophile system and I love the analogue productions product. However, The trumpet on the craft is so harsh as to be almost unlistenable. As others have had good success with it, i will put it down to system variability. Perhaps in the future, some experimentation with a different stylus is in order. For now I will put the craft away for consideration until thenl.
@BiggestApple
2 жыл бұрын
My copy of the Craft sounds wonderful but sadly arrived with a seam split to the cover and the outer sleeve was flawed.
@helmutkarllackner3481
2 жыл бұрын
hallo michael, du hast recht, extrem "hot" gemastert, wenn miles spielt, das ist mir fast zu spitz oder scharf...
@terrywho22
2 жыл бұрын
But I can buy 2-1/2 copies of the excellent AP version for the same price as one copy of the great Craft recording. For me the decision is clear.
@incredibleadventures1027
10 ай бұрын
AP is the best vinyl company out right now, but they have always inexplicably used inferior scans of cover art.
@Ken-wp2fr
Жыл бұрын
I like no clear winner.
@tonynewman1694
2 жыл бұрын
Great video I have a couple of the super vinyl releases from impex and mobile fidelity , it's such a quiet vinyl . Have you ordered the mj Thriller?
@ergloo6660
2 жыл бұрын
Different is good
@harbars1
2 жыл бұрын
Re the cover art (shades of grey) there is some variance on the original but the two I have don’t have any variation of the yellow and the figure itself is consistent. I also have the AP 1996 33rpm, a copy from the AP prestige box set and the 2003 2x45rpm. These all are without the variations that seem quite distinct in your video. Similarly the OJC doesn’t have it, not that I would put much stock in those in terms of accuracy! What I will say about the new craft jacket, is that there is nowhere near as much definition in the figure itself. Edmond edwards signature is also less clear. I would imagine the art was scanned and prepared for press on a lower end digital pre press than what AP use.
@mr.polish6271
5 ай бұрын
Which copy do you think sounds the best?
@harbars1
5 ай бұрын
AP 45rpm is the best reissue IMO
@bryce83
2 жыл бұрын
How much less noise is on the Super Vinyl? $50 worth?
@Michael45RPM
2 жыл бұрын
i would say 22,35
@itsvladzino3246
2 жыл бұрын
Would you trade your first or most precious press of this record for sitting in the studio during the session?
@dustinshaver3173
2 жыл бұрын
Mike how much u b spending 💰 on vinyl a month ?
@davidpetersen7091
2 жыл бұрын
Michael, I "enjoy" your reviews. Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie
@davepounds8924
2 жыл бұрын
You audiophiles are nuts.You buy an album that you have 2 or 3 copies of just to see if it sounds better than the audiophile copies you already have And these records aren’t cheap. It’s sad that you guys get so wrapped up in the sound that you can’t enjoy the fuckin music
@12bitizthewaytogo92
2 жыл бұрын
exactly always chasing the "perfect" pressing FOH itll never happen must be nice to listen to $$$$ records all day and be wealthy
@davepounds8924
2 жыл бұрын
@@12bitizthewaytogo92 Exactly Just the cost of those audiophile pressings is outrageous When I was a kid the best music I heard was on a cheap FM radio
@cezarvasile1635
2 жыл бұрын
👌👌
@steverobinson939
2 жыл бұрын
You are starting to cost me a lot of money with your recommendations!!! Any advice on hiding new purchases from the wife? In all seriousness, thank you for your informative and interesting videos. Keep up the good work!
@danielwalsh7538
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael Been following you for a while and bought a lot of records based on your reviews , can you please let me know what brush you use to dust your records before you play them thank you and please keep up the fantastic reviews all the best dan
@terrywho22
2 жыл бұрын
I'm obviously not Michael, but in 20+ years in this hobby I've been through a fair number of brushes. The best one I have used in terms of safe dust removal is the Analog Relax Anti-Static Brush. I really hesitated to buy one as they are expensive, but if mine ever disappeared I would order a replacement immediately... one of my best investments. Good luck!!
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