Fun fact - mind over matter was first idea of supporter who created cloack of defaince but it was so cool they put it on the skill tree as passive thou less powerfull version at times
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I didn't know that 👍
@AMabud-lv7hy
Жыл бұрын
Also the supporter who made it later started working under GGG
@sober667
Жыл бұрын
@@AMabud-lv7hy i did not knew that part thank you
@Rexxar244
Жыл бұрын
Worth noting that this is a pretty popular and powerful node for ruthless, as you will be unlikely to have any auras to reserve your mana with, or skills that spend all your mana, for quite a long time, making it a straightforward survivability boost for levelling and early mapping.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Great point! I'm not a big Ruthless player so this is always insightful
@alewis514
Жыл бұрын
MOM Agnostic combination builds (especially mana-stacking) make up for some of the best Lab Runners that exist because they laugh at traps due to their insane sustain. You can autopilot the lab with such a character and never worry about dying, even when soaking damage from the sawblades or spikes. I wish Mana Stack was a viable alternative to aura stack on spell caster builds. As in, a build that reserves half of the mana for auras and the other half is used to boost your damage through mana-scaling. Right now we have all or nothing approach, if you use auras you reserve your entire manabar, to the point of needing EB to cast your damn abilities.
@victorz7530
Жыл бұрын
One EB MOM hierophant setup I'm quite fond of is yoinking Pious Path via forbidden jewels and getting lingering consecrated ground via Rational Doctrine effectively giving the hierophant TWO extra ascendancy notables allowing for very effective ES recovery while still reaping the benefits of auras.
@Ilyak1986
Жыл бұрын
One thing to note--the cloak of defiance has the MoM keystone tagged as a *LIFE* modifier, so the 15% increased max life if body armor has no life mod doesn't work ;( Also, I'm not sure if any MoM builds even exist anymore, b/c the archmage support gem got obliterated. Rangers used to be able to do some agnostic/mom stuff when agnostic was closer to the middle of the tree, but that's now a long dead memory unless Sanctum returns to the game to plop agnostic onto a sanctified relic. Maybe there's a Scion Pathfinder/Hiero build out there that can utilize MoM but again, not sure of the specifics.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
There's a lot less mana stacking MoM builds, but there is still quite a decent amount of MoM + EB, especially Witch builds, and some Inquis/Hiero
@thomasgoodwill
Жыл бұрын
There is a very popular deep delver build using Hiero Manabond
@TastyCrabz
Жыл бұрын
THESE KEYSTONES HIT DIFFERENT EVERY TIME
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@Robibou
Жыл бұрын
👍
@taintacle7623
Жыл бұрын
Love this one! MoM builds are something I've always wanted to get into - also love the quick shout-out to Ivory Tower! Still hoping to get a solid video on that armor!
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Ivory tower is a great body armour, just right now it's a bit hamstrung by the position mana stacking is in, I will probably get round to doing a dedicated video on it though, I'm hopeful mana stacking/blood magic stuff gets some buffs so those builds can shine a bit
@taintacle7623
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg I'm so excited - can't wait to hear your take on all of that tech!!
@Nukestarmaster
Жыл бұрын
MoM is a theoretically incredibly powerful keystone that has been almost completely powercrept by auras. Having to leave both your health and mana largely unreserved is crippling for the keystone, most mana-stacking builds want to use Ivory Tower and go low life in order to use auras, and MoM doesn't work with low life builds.
@ZenOnYch
Жыл бұрын
using combination of MoM + EB for a three leagues in a row already. EB in my builds is provided by Replica Sorrow bottle. With this bottle you no longer have to put your skill points to get to EB. It also lets life bottles heal energy shield alongside with hp. I mostly use instant bottles, they heal ES even in case your HP is full. This works well with Divine Blessing + Aura. I use this aura, then drink bottle once and I'm on full hp/es again. To keep 100% Replica Sorrow uptime I use Brutal Restraint (Balbala) with 2-3 "10% increased flask charges gain" effect on nodes. Then 1 medium cluster with Fasting + Spiked Concoction + some flask affixes on belt (or second medium cluster). This setup provides enough flask charges to keep 100% Sorrow bottle uptime. And yeah that's the setup for non Pathfinder/Scion. I mostly use the next 3 bottles: Instant heal flask (or Writhing Jar for some builds), Replica Sorrow, Elixir of Unbroken Circle. The later with trigger "Use when you use Guard skill". In this setup I mostly use Immortal Call prolonged by Endurance charges I've got from Elixir. Actually that's pretty strong defensive setup (as addition to my main def layers) and I enjoy it the most.
@Narnach
Жыл бұрын
Interesting detail: Mind over Matter is relatively more valuable in (SSF) Ruthless because it's harder to get your mana maxed out by auras. I like to combine it with Recoup (life + mana) and Zealot's Oath to switch your active tanking away from life and towards ES and mana. 20% mana recoup is easy from the passive tree, so as long as about half of the incoming damage is taken by ES or damage shields (Frost Shield, guard skills, Prismatic Aegis, etc) it will keep your mana bulb more or less full. Adding some jewels or uniques (Mindspiral) with mana recoup also helps to offset the mana loss due to MoM.
@nater8410
Жыл бұрын
I like using eldritch battery + Mind Over Matter and energy shield leech and full reserve mana for aura with ghost dance and movement skill supported by lifetap. This combination allow you to use you skill without using mana you dont need even -mana cost to skills new life mastery allow you to pay 30% from hp is also good to have. Why im using that life tap? because when you got burst damage and you got no es you still can escape.
@johanbeatable
Жыл бұрын
As a new player all this videos are really usefful. Hope nex serie is about skills!
@G33KST4R
Жыл бұрын
MoM is one of the most busted keystones. POB doesn't always reflect it, but can be a straight up 40% less damage taken.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Not sure if you're referring to a specific interaction, but MoM doesn't change the amount of damage you're taking in any way, it only allows you to improve your effective health by way of mana acting as an extention of life
@kingfisher1638
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg It also technically adds your mana regen to your life regen as well.
@nater8410
Жыл бұрын
Yes new keystone vid
@f.jideament
Жыл бұрын
Kaykaystone
@nater8410
Жыл бұрын
@@f.jideament are u mental?
@f.jideament
Жыл бұрын
@@nater8410 thanks.
@Trypan
Жыл бұрын
Bri'ish man spitting facts again. Always great for theory crafting
@katiegrayx3637
Жыл бұрын
Another great keystone coverage video! will you cover Arrow Dancing?
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I'll probably get around to Arrow Dancing, bit of a weird one but useful sometimes when you know what you're up against
@AintNoJustice
Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@esrasor
Жыл бұрын
was hoping to find any ideas on how mind over matter plays with the nine lives jewels, since you can't get more then 25% total energy shield recoupe using mind over matter should make your energy shield recoupe feel much better right?
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
If you use MoM and Eldritch Battery with Nine Lives, it will have a nice benefit of splitting the damage, somewhat similar to Corrupted Soul on an Inquisitor, and any hit damage you take will recoup both your life and ES so that you can gain more benefit from that node
@dontpanic15
8 ай бұрын
so is it not worth trying to build around this node, too late for me this is what im going for. I am investing in mana so far not sure if i should go electric for damage. whats a good way to go for a mind over matter build?
@titonjemanzemain9924
13 күн бұрын
Does Armour physical damage reduction apply before mind over matter?
@dreamcore_gg
12 күн бұрын
Yes. All mitigation applies before mind over matter, it simply redirects damage taken from a different resource
@mas0ny149
Ай бұрын
Hi dream, I know this video is giga old lmao but I've been thinking about mom for flamewood hierophant ;) (im the flamewood chieftain guy from discord, league started a hierophant version and it's extremely cracked lol). If the hiero has a low life setup, does Petri blood reduce the entirety of the hit by 40% before mom applies or only the portion going towards health (60% total damage taken would be reduced by Petri bloods effect) Also I know u talk about agnostic and I was wondering have u ever seen agnostic on a low life builds? so it would be pernamently running. I'm curious if there's any sneaky ways to get enough mana regen to gave it perma running and still enough regen to use ur mana normally for spell casting etc Thanks!
@dreamcore_gg
Ай бұрын
MoM redirect damage from mana first, then the damage dealt to life interacts with PB's damage prevention mechanic Not sure about upkeeping agnostic cost on low life, may be quite some investment
@mas0ny149
Ай бұрын
@@dreamcore_gg ah gotcha so there's some anti synergy there. Good to know
@ShadowFri3nd
Жыл бұрын
ive tested this keystone and tbh it fall short because you need Armour or Evasion/Suppresion as defensive layers, having a lot of mana but 0 of those stats its a lot of downside (you always have either a Cloak of Defiance or Inpulsa), also mana stacking are too related with lightning dmg so your skillgem selection its very limited.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
The main use case for this keystone at the moment actually doesn't stack mana at all, it's MoM + EB on Witch builds, or some Inquis/Hiero etc
@Seelenverheizer
Жыл бұрын
its a good keystone but with auras beeing so good an prevelant i feel like the keystone could give at least 500 flat many maybe even more. Mana rolls on gear compete with defenses and with armour and even evasion beeing pretty alright this has an ever bigger opportunity cost. Would be nice if that presssure could be mitigated a bit.
@TheNuclearGamerr
Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a good MoM build. I got a legacy CoD in standard and can get around 60% MoM with power charges :/
@einkar4219
Жыл бұрын
I loved mom + agnostic archmage storm brand on ultimatum I am sad that after expedition this archetype for cheep starter variable builds is dead
@taiwanisacountry
Жыл бұрын
Just made a build in 30min 70% mom for Phys, 100% for fire, cold, light, and chaos... Annoying with the Phys but it is not the end of the world. 5k es, 5k life and almost 10k mana. I am converting 70% of fire and cold to lightning, and 50% of elemental to chaos. Yes divine flesh, so I am using elixir with tower, and sublime vision with purity of lightning, it is absolutely a bargain for that sublime vision. So chaos does not bypass energyshield but everything else does, and that is already because everything that is not Phys is taken as mana, chaos is also taken as mana, but I can just as well use my gigantic ES pool for 30-50% of the elemental and chaos damage taken. Did I mention that it is 100% of fire and cold. Including DoT damage. Shaper balls tickles, and it can survive a double atziri flame last. Hopefully they upgrade the MoM factor of hirophant next league, or at least buff the living hell out of guardian. If I could reach 100% phys taken as, or phys mom, then I could use this setup with CI, since I might only have 1 life, but if 100% is taken as mana then it does not matter, anything above 1 is alive.
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Divine Flesh's 'All damage taken bypasses energy shield' is a full override of any other modifier, so Coruscating Elixir won't work with Divine Flesh, but you could use the ES for skill costs with EB instead.
@Bobby-fh1sc
Жыл бұрын
first i guess
@BenceBori
Жыл бұрын
I think you used the older version of MoM and the Cloak. MoM is 30% now and Cloack has extra 10% on it. Keep up!
@dreamcore_gg
Жыл бұрын
Other way around, MoM went from 30% to 40%, and Cloak lost its 10% in patch 3.19.
@PaintMasterPoE
Жыл бұрын
Its 40% lol
@BenceBori
Жыл бұрын
@@dreamcore_ggyeah checked it. maybe pob or something was confusing me, soeey 😅
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