the point is that you develop skills where you dont think about this anymore. you see the numbers and combinations of setups and begin to become fast (o:
@MrSongib
3 жыл бұрын
you still need "luck" 🤣
@pinospin9588
3 жыл бұрын
Especially when you set to 99 mines
@robotron6420
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSongib Sadly, yes. There's moments where you need luck
@crown_420
Жыл бұрын
I call it the assumption and cancellation method.
@michaelsong5555
6 жыл бұрын
9:10 You don't want to "click randomly." There are two factors to consider when you have no choice but to take risks: 1. See the probability. If you have 3 choices, and only one of them has mine, then you should prefer to click one of those (66% correct). Compared to 1 out of 2, which is (50%). 2. If the chances are the same (such as this video), then click on something that has a good payout -- aka, if you clear one of the mine, then it clears a lot of other cells. Clicking randomly in this particular case was a stupid move, because even though he got the correct one, it still didn't improve his actual situation, and therefore, he had to take another risk right afterwards.
@georgekyriakou802
4 жыл бұрын
someone had to say that. custom boards can lead to really challenging probability or payout thinking, which is nice when you are already bored playing by the same standard techniques
@kilgour22
4 жыл бұрын
A true random click actually has a 79.375% chance of not being a mine. Technically, a random click is superior to the vast majority of guesses. Obviously there's information given by the current layout, and it's important to calculate the probabilities of various squares. A pseudorandom guess is optimal, whereby one eliminates known high-probability-of-mine squares from the clickable pool to maximize the probability of the remaining squares being safe. He demonstrated this conditional probability near the end of the video, with the two mines remaining in a bunch of unknown squares.
@yassinehimadi
Жыл бұрын
@@kilgour22 not in late game
@bobczech7774
Жыл бұрын
@@yassinehimadi 5050s suck. The times I lose to a 5050 make me mad and gets me vexed with the game.
@Sideshow-Bob
4 ай бұрын
@@kilgour22 sorry but no, 79.375 % chance of not being a mine would only be the first click with no mines discovered. By the end of the game the chance of a random click falling into a mine is MUCH higher.
@hnkul702
8 жыл бұрын
I really like your guide. You basically talked about everything there is to Minesweeper logic in great depth. Having said that, I don't play the Windows version anymore since you need incredible luck to solve most puzzles because of forced guessing. Thankfully there's a Simon Tathem version of Mines that allows for boards as large as your screen, and where you can get the game to ensure the puzzle is possible without making forced guesses (at about 95% success rate). Your first click is always a square with no mines around it. I'm sure you can clear a 35x80 board with 750 mines on it on that game. It's a challenge but one based purely on skill.
@hnkul702
8 жыл бұрын
Having said that, there is another level of clicking logic that goes beyond the scope of this board, although you would figure it out pretty easily since you know which squares are safe.
@freegamingcocsashorts7605
2 жыл бұрын
@@hnkul702 :
@TheKyleFyles
Жыл бұрын
@hnkul702 I didn't know about Simon Tathem, thank you!
@hnkul702
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKyleFyles No problem! I still enjoy that version! I find that the maximum level of difficulty you can have with that version is to make the board big enough that it fills most of your screen but small enough that the game does not have to shrink the squares (for me, that board is 90x40), and have the mine count be 1/3 of the total squares. I do not recommend exceeding 1/3 of the total, because the algorithm will give up and just lazily shove all the mines into one part of the board, making your game laughably easy.
@tautvydasa77
6 жыл бұрын
thats what I hate about this game, its that sometimes you just have to guess
@jacobg8640
4 жыл бұрын
@@khaledashrifena21novagymna48 There are points where you absolutely have to guess. If you get to a corner and are left with a 50-50, there's no working your way around it.
@ders.
4 жыл бұрын
Khaled Ashrife 8B Korsavadsskolan 7-9 Did you watch the video?
@yourdad5471
3 жыл бұрын
I just died in my very last 2 boxes... And wrong guess... F****
@yourdad5471
3 жыл бұрын
@@ders. he probably didn't
@TRBenjiSwiss
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobg8640 ive gotten to a point where i always lose a 50-50 guess so really is 0-0 for me lmao
@dh2778
10 жыл бұрын
There are 5 mines you can count in the last situation, not four. Making the correct educated guess plays a big part in achieving higher win percentages.
@jimraynor3155
10 жыл бұрын
I checked again and I only see four. Remember, the "areas" that you count must be completely non-overlapping.
@dh2778
10 жыл бұрын
Jim Raynor You may want to triple check that. Remember, there are two missing around the bottom 3.
@jimraynor3155
10 жыл бұрын
Ah yeah, you're right, you can count 5. Thanks.
@irl8796
3 жыл бұрын
@@dh2778 this isn’t true. there has to be 2 there, but it was very possible one could have came from the 4 above and 2 next to it. I get the outcome in hindsight was different, but That would have made only 4 you can for sure count.
@dh2778
3 жыл бұрын
@@irl8796 You should count again.
@xCARNAGEakaRAYRAY
7 жыл бұрын
17 years I've wondered what happened if you won. 17 YEARS!
@superyeah4ever2
5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@zcw123
4 жыл бұрын
30 years here
@Mlindos
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@matsang2008
2 жыл бұрын
After 8 years, finally you opened my eyes on logic behind the Minecraft, thank You.
@sharkfiinn
2 жыл бұрын
minecraft....
@matsang2008
2 жыл бұрын
@@sharkfiinn sorry got it wrong 🤣 i meant MineSweeper 🤣
@GoodMorning-b2w
14 күн бұрын
pardon for speaking about something unrelated. but why is it possible that we can say 'the' before minesweeper but not minecraft? idk ,
@matsang2008
14 күн бұрын
@@GoodMorning-b2w sorry, I’m not good in English. So I use a, an, the randomly 🥹
@GoodMorning-b2w
14 күн бұрын
@@matsang2008 it's ok i'm not a native speaker either
@cranelord
6 ай бұрын
Ive been looking for a guide like this. Ive got the basics down but this opened a line of thinking I've never considered. Thanks.
@Revelatus
5 жыл бұрын
i coded my own version of minesweeper, it helped me learn how the game works but this video helped me understand a lot of the necessary logic to win in expert
@fewfoes
2 жыл бұрын
can someone play yours?
@Random-zt4ig
3 жыл бұрын
Man thanks for this! I've always loved minesweeper but when I tried this expert difficulty I found it really difficult your tips helped me! Thanks
@MrStarTraveler
5 жыл бұрын
IMO something you did but didn't explain well is how educated guesswork works. Or evaluating probabilities based on the known numbers. For example: At 9:06 Let's take cells at row 1 columns 15, 16, 17.(counting from upper left corner) Looking at the know numbers there, we can estimate that there is only one mine among those three cells. Therefore clicking on any one of them gives 75% chance of survival and 25% chance of stepping on a mine. That's a good chance IMO. I would prefer that instead of randomly clicking on a cell I have no idea what's the chance of being safe or not. Also at 9:06 If we look at two pairs of cells; One pair at (rows 1 and 2, column 14) and the other pair at (row 2, columns 14 and 15). Both pairs have one mine among the two cells that consist them. However since both pairs share a cell at row 2, column 14, that might indicate the chance there is a mine in that cell is greater than the change of two mines being in the other two cells not shared by the two pairs. That's especially true if counting the missing mines indicated by known numbers in non-overlapping regions gets most of the mines accounted for. Well if most of the missing mines get accounted for then clicking on in a completely unknown region makes more sense but you get what I mean. :)
@roeniss
11 ай бұрын
15, 16, 17 how make 75% of survive? you mean 66%?
@MrStarTraveler
11 ай бұрын
@@roeniss It was a bad example. But Yeah it's 66% not 75.
@conspiracytheorylover
3 жыл бұрын
I learned new tricks 1:29 and 2:40 and others from this video .... and your video is easy to understand thank you very much :D
@gg123gaming8
5 жыл бұрын
Finally after 19 years i finally know how to play it
@ankitkumarsingh2209
6 жыл бұрын
I really really like your technique.. .. Hey I have been able to solve advance minesweeper first time..Thanks..
@ldoubleprime1654
2 жыл бұрын
As a 14 year old getting into such a old game i really was struggling with the logic part of this game of how situations would over satisfy others only focusing on patterns and the obvious mines and that would make me trip up this made me understand more situations more clearly so thank you video made years ago
@powfoot4946
2 жыл бұрын
Im happy im not the youngest person playing this
@mrhowll4333
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Jim, you really helped me to "up" my minesweeper game :D I guess an old dog can be taught new tricks.
@pinospin9588
3 жыл бұрын
The moment you click randomly and it pop out number 8
@ChandanKumar-du1of
10 ай бұрын
Keystone video IMO. Made me give up the guessing game most of the times. Thank you for existing.
@tesscrelli783
3 жыл бұрын
10 seconds in: "I assume you're already familiar with minesweeper" YT recommends: "Idgaf about your familiarity with the game in question, watch this"
@SmokingSpoon
3 жыл бұрын
Really nice guide! It's even better since it's Jimmy Raynor! i'm happy that I knew pretty much all of these tips/logics on my own from playing too much lol.
@MLL65
2 жыл бұрын
easy tip is when you see in line 1 and 2..The third square will be a mine because it is the only square that has increased the number
@TAB-Spec
7 жыл бұрын
definitely sharing for my family and friends... or not I could act like a pro and wow them for forever... THAT sounds FUN!!!
@PretzelBS
3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t show anything I didn’t already know. Guess there aren’t any next-level strats that I’m missing
@marttielvisto3519
3 жыл бұрын
Same I just have to practice a lot
@jessicawang6558
5 жыл бұрын
You sound like a math major :D
@bobczech7774
Жыл бұрын
4:56 yes in my nf run i counted the mines that i would need to flag and got 98. That meant i could decipher where the mine was. 97 mine count means i would have to take a 50 50. 96 means no 50 50, the non mine was the square that was a mine in 98.
@skateordiemusic
2 жыл бұрын
First 2 min and ive already learned a good trick: when its guess and counting time, i always start with "if theres a bomb in this cell" and i see you start with "if theres no bomb here" and that way you find the right hipothesis faster than i do. Definitely im gonna try this and time to see the rest of the video! Good job
@CharlieSamSpruce
3 жыл бұрын
Damn you definitely study maths. Could tell in first 30 seconds “trivial” and “contradiction”
@Amunny
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah people who enjoy playing minesweeper usually also study maths or enjoy math related subjects.
@wing0ng
9 жыл бұрын
I really like this video. Thanks for the tips!
@RonaiHenrik
2 жыл бұрын
Okay Im glad that I'm not totally stupid, I already knew all of this, figured it out by myself but jesus christ his speed is on a different level. I guess it's all down to practice from now on.
@ChangaChet
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I was struggling with the contradicting logics, now I know how. Thanks again
@wit_ef8853
3 жыл бұрын
Let's pretend I can do that logic by myself 💀
@Jonas-yv6lo
10 ай бұрын
Lol so I guess I'm also an expert, did these "tips" intuitively already, it's just logic really. Just trying to get faster now, cheers fellow expert!
@sicdav1d0ff
8 жыл бұрын
That's the one small step i needed to become a lot better. Thanks
@eggy337
Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what i was looking for
@KeisariYT
3 жыл бұрын
Wow this helped me alot! I didn't realise I can use basic sudoku techniques for MS too!
@Supersonic
4 ай бұрын
I didn't think i was gunna learn from this, but my starting assumption was wrong.
@MorikawaMelodies
Жыл бұрын
I spent nine hours one day trying to beat expert and then got it within 30 minutes the next day
@asdf4237
4 жыл бұрын
Lets Assume I dont have brain, oh,but i can type meaningful sentence,that means the initial assumption was incorrect, that means i have a brain....
@UnderscoreZeroLP
3 жыл бұрын
Shut up idiot
@MI-zt1wv
2 жыл бұрын
philosophy in a nutshell
@Kaitri
3 жыл бұрын
Why am i watching this? Why am i enjoying it
@zorac91
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I've completed it several times but I split cells 50/50 way too much (winrate is very meh). This helped a lot
@OfficialMeep
6 ай бұрын
I understand, but my brain ain't braining.
@anuragdey_
10 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video 🙏🙏🙏
@ThanosBabaji
4 жыл бұрын
It's 2020 and i am watching this Is it ok
@jan_Travis
4 жыл бұрын
Yes. Minesweeper is best game.
@peteiiseasy3217
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 2021 les goo
@skye4591
2 жыл бұрын
so if theres a corner thats an empty space with no number directly horizontal or verrtical to it then ignore that space? in this video i didnt see you recognize these at all
@nicolasross642
2 жыл бұрын
what to do when 1 mine left and only 2 spots but no logic to follow? no numbers no nothing, just to spots. That happens often
@urosrakic6900
2 жыл бұрын
After I figured out how to chord, I can beat Minesweeper on Intermediate. Before that, I was struggling even with Beginner mode. But now, I can beat Minesweeper on Intermediate mode. On expert mode... there will be 95% chance that you have to guess (which is something that I hate). Because of the fact that you have to guess, I can't beat Expert mode. I sometimes lose on Intermediate mode due to that. But, usually, I beat Intermediate mode.
@7kenjoyer
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you're improving, but I'd love to point out that you made your conclusion way too early. On average, decent players can win 20 games out of 100. Top players can win even more games, which is around 40. The highest numbers are above 50 out of 100, but that needs luck. This number must be even higher, because windows version always gives an opening on the first click, which will increase the win rate a bit So, I'd say you're lacking logic in expert games, and you think you have to guess when it's not the case. I'm not trying to advertise anything, but the best way to learn logic is to play no guessing mode on minesweeper online (website). That mode only generates boards that can be solved with logic, and the last difficulty (evil) includes complex logic. It will definitely make you feel you have to guess, because there's still a lot to learn. That mode has useful hints that actually make you learn, but I don't recommend using them too much. Also, that website has a bunch of guides written by top players on advanced patterns and other things that will be very useful for a player at your level. That website has a chat full of very experienced players that will answer any questions you have. If you don't want to go to any websites, then I recommend staring at the board whenever you think you have to guess. Good luck!
@urosrakic6900
2 жыл бұрын
@@7kenjoyer I think that these words are so discouraging. I'm trying hard to beat Minesweeper on Expert mode (Hard difficulty), and you're saying that I'm giving conclusion very early and that I'm lacking logic? I'm trying my best to beat that board, and most of the time, Minesweeper forces me to guess. And I hate that. I'm on the verge to stop playing Minesweeper.
@7kenjoyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@urosrakic6900 Sorry that it turned this way. At least I hope it was obvious I'm trying to help and not make you stop playing minesweeper. You know where to go if you need help (I mentioned in my first comment). Unfortunately you can't learn everything by just playing offline on your own. By lacking logic I meant that you probably don't know some of the patterns (expert has more patterns than intermediate) and then you make a conclusion you have to guess instead of progressing safely. I haven't seen you play though but judging by your conclusion I think that you still have things to learn to increase your win rate. I'm actually involved in its community and I know what players are capable of who studied all of the guides and practiced a lot. Everyone has an equal chance of blasting in the corner or when they encounter a forced 50:50 yet top players can win much more games than me or you for example Also if you dislike guessing this much then you will probably love no guessing mode on that website. Not to mention that site encourages people to play different variety (efficiency, no flags, high difficulty, etc.) with quests events and arenas and you will probably find something that you love more than what you're currently doing in minesweeper. It also has an awesome community. Good luck
@Idontwantyourcookies
Жыл бұрын
After learning how to play minesweeper, I found it frustrating to find out you can't win every game.. not even on easy. That's pretty different to other games that I'm used to playing
@gxtr1324
Жыл бұрын
Very amazing 💯💯💥💥✨✨
@AwwesomeVal
8 ай бұрын
Man. I thought I knew "basics" but i apparently don't. A minute in even pausing I'm not sure why you felt it was safe to click on some of these areas
@nonamemister2643
2 жыл бұрын
lmaoooo, it do be like that tho, 96% of the time, logic and brain games, the last 4%, "Now we play the guessing game"
@cygnusx-7440
4 жыл бұрын
Good video! I, like so many other people, play 'PANNICK' minesweeper, full of crazy chances and frequent losses. I've had a couple games under 90 seconds, but I've NEVER taken the time to flag safe spots. And yes, it's hard to commit to a game that gives you 'can't win' scenarios. Many corner trapped "50-50" guess situations...
@Edtuma
Жыл бұрын
I keep getting rectangles with only 1, like how tf am i supposed to beat this if I have to guess
@Evan-gj5si
6 жыл бұрын
I always come down to like 4 spots left with 2 mines and it’s a complete guessing game ecks dee And with my luck I fuck it up 90% of the time.
@Ahmed-th1li
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but does best time say "103"?? BECAUSE THAT CAN'T BE TRUE, the number isn't clear in my screen, someone comfirm the numer please.
@heynando
8 жыл бұрын
so freaking cool. thanks a lot!
@fathiadnan1468
5 жыл бұрын
My brain is bleeding
@bobdipietro
10 жыл бұрын
Very nice job. Thank you for the instruction.
@ciclismo1450
3 жыл бұрын
Also helps to look up some patterns
@Mikeandnike5
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks u man......this video was really awesome. thank u again man.
@brunogabriel8203
Жыл бұрын
You're a legend
@gabeh7655
8 жыл бұрын
how enlightening, jfc I wish I thought of this on my own
@youz123
Жыл бұрын
nice guide
@henrywolbeck793
Жыл бұрын
It opens a new window after the game ending
@qazwsxedcrfvtgbyh480
2 жыл бұрын
man youre amazing tbh
@henrywolbeck793
Жыл бұрын
Now for beginner.
@Asterics.
3 жыл бұрын
it's annoying when you start with only 1 cell in corner
@DeluxeWarPlaya
5 ай бұрын
Big job
@wwplaymc1207
Жыл бұрын
thanks for helping
@Ausar0
8 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck you play quickly.
@Siberius-
7 жыл бұрын
Super useful! thank you. I wondering if the game could be designed in such a way to never have to make random guesses.. seems randomized, if they just kicked out the guess games and made it like a saved maps thing it would be better.. thousands and thousands of games that actually work.. or games tht people complete get saved to the game and then used.. Edit: I just saw your other comment with a link to a game with no guessing.. suppose it does exist.
@martinkasse1932
11 ай бұрын
I feel like I've watched a math course
@25yo21
Жыл бұрын
good video
@christopherpang200
3 жыл бұрын
why do i not see your name in the world record list
@BerettaTV
6 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Nonexistility
3 жыл бұрын
Wait it was based on luck all along?!
@mohamad.manla.98
3 жыл бұрын
I watched the video hoping that you would find a trick for the “luck” issue but actually I know all that 😂💔
@theorange1729
4 жыл бұрын
6:55 Or you can move on by putting a flag above that 4 ;) but seriously though, this video is awesome, just helpful for someone like me, thanks a lot
@spaceangelmewtwo9074
6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot better way of thinking, at least for me, for many of the cases in this video. Instead of thinking about contradictions when trying to locate mines, I always think about it in the following way; where does this number tell me the mine(s) could possibly be, and will that satisfy surrounding numbers? I'll try to list some examples. Pause at 0:26 I am able to come to the conclusion that the mine is where Jim says it is a lot faster by looking at the 1 and thinking that there can only be one mine in the spaces surrounding it. No matter where that mine is, it is also touching the 2, but the 2 needs one more mine. Therefore there must be a mine in the third space not touching the 1 in order for the 2 to be satisfied. Pause at 0:55 You can come to the conclusion instantly that there is no mine where Jim has his flag that he is talking about in this frame because no matter where the second mine for the 2 is, it also satisfies the 1, so there can be no more mines around it. Also, if you look at the bottom left, I can also tell you that the 1 in the bottom left corner will also satisfy that 2 next to it, so the space directly below the 3 is safe. Pause at 1:26 Jim is about to get into the topic of the row of three 2s on the right, but his way of thinking about this situation is a little slow because he is treating all the 2s like "2s." However, you can only think of the 2 in the middle like a "2." The 2s surrounding it can be thought of as "1s" because they already have one mine surrounding them, so you can treat this line of 2s like you would a "1-2-1" line. There is a 3 with a 2 to the left slightly down and to the left of the 222 line. The space directly under the flag to the right of the 2 is safe because the 3 will satisfy that 2. This one is particularly advanced, and makes for a great demonstration of my point. Look at the very lowest 2 on the board in the bottom left, still paused at 1:26. The bottom-left space next to that 2 is safe, and one of the mines next to both of the 3s it is touching are each in the spaces NOT touching that 2. Here is how I know this. Take the 3 above that 2 for example. You can satisfy both it and the 2 by having the mines be to the right and upper-right of that 2, but then it is impossible to satisfy the 3 to the left of the 2 there, and vice versa if you do something similar for the 3 on the left. Therefore, each of those 3s has a mine that is not touching that 2, and then the other mine counts towards that 2. Since both of those mines together satisfy that 2, the bottom-right is safe. One last time before I move on to another topic. Pause at 3:02. Jim's logic is perfectly fine here, but there is an alternative (Both work equally well, just trying to get readers to think a little bit more about what I'm talking about). That 3 above where Jim has his mouse has one mine on it, and the two others have to satisfy that 2, making the bottom-right on that 2 safe. One more thing I want to mention. If this was on the board, I wasn't paying attention, but I don't think I ever saw this configuration. If you ever encounter a line of mines in the order of "1-2-2-1," the mines are directly above, below, or to the sides of the 2s, depending on how the line is configured. If we look at the text as being on the bottom of our clear spaces for example, they would be below. We know this because the 2s satisfy the ones no matter how they are configured, so we can take, say, the 1 on the left and click the space(s) not touching the 2. There is a mine to the bottom-right of that 2 so that it is satisfied, and that mine is touching the 1 on the right, satisfying it. Then you satisfy the 2 on the right with the space under the 2 on the left, satisfying them both and the 1 on the left. This works every time, so you don't always need to think about all this. Think of my reasoning like you would a mathematical proof. You can also prove that "1-2-1" always works, but I'll leave that for the dear reader to think about. Lastly, at 9:28, when Jim said that his guess wasn't helping, he lied. It helped a lot. Before he made his guess, there were 2 mines unaccounted for, but after he made his guess, I can count 9 of the mines, which helps to make a very well educated guess for our next one. Let's start with the 3 he just revealed. It has a mine remaining, so that's 1 mine. The uppermost 3 unaccounted for has 2 mines left, so that's 3 mines. That 3 to the left has one mine remaining. 4 mines. Down at the bottom, that lowest 1 is unaccounted for. 5 mines. The 3 above has one mine remaining. 6 mines. The lowest 3 has two mines left. 8 mines. Then, that leftmost 3 remaining has one mine left. That makes 9 mines. The safest guess that we know will reveal the most information that could be helpful is to look at that last 3 I mentioned. There is another 3 to the bottom-right of it. Click the space to the bottom-right of that 3. There is still a chance that the one remaining mine is there, but since that space was not counted among the spaces that we know have mines, and there are 10 uncertain spaces in total, there is not a 1-in-2 chance a mine is there, but a 1-in-10 chance. If there is no mine there, we can open up the bottom part of the board quite a bit. Unfortunately, there is no way to safely open up the upper part of the board because we counted every space. I would say click the space to the left of the uppermost 3 that Jim just revealed, because that space has a 1-in-4 chance due to the presence of the nearby 4, making the bottom-left a 3-in-4 chance of containing the mine as that would satisfy them both. When in these types of situations, it is best to consider the spaces that satisfy multiple numbers to be the danger zone. Jim gets away with clicking this space, and my guess would have been wrong, but we didn't know that until he clicked. He happened to get lucky with a 25% chance gamble and I was unlucky with my 75%. Such is the way of probability sometimes. Anything can happen, and all you can do is increase your chance of being right.
@Deefunx
10 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you.
@jsy0160
8 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how you were able to clear multiple cells at ~3:45 with just one click?
@jimraynor3155
8 жыл бұрын
It's done by pressing both mouse buttons together. You first have to mark the exact number of mines indicated on the cell.
@arijanj
7 жыл бұрын
i dont get it can you explain a little bit better please
@NotAmour
7 жыл бұрын
Try clicking on the left and right mouse buttons at the same time.
@TypeRob
3 жыл бұрын
Were you able to figure this out? I'm a little confused too in the technique
@crusherpro11
Ай бұрын
There's nothing we can sweep 😞
@BlueFangbluser
3 жыл бұрын
So I've picked up minesweeper and done pretty well on my own but I've come looking for more advanced techniques to better figure out where the mines are. I have everything covered here figured out except one particular thing, that being the probability when you are forced to make a guess. At 9:06 a guess has to be made. Why go for the corner where it's a completely random chance. It's either a bomb or not, making it 50/50. The three in the center (16 over, 1 down I think) has 6 boxes around it at this point, one of them is flagged meaning there are 5 unknown spaces and 2 bombs left among them. That meaning surrounding that number three there are 3 non-bomb spaces and 2 bombs, therefore only 2/5 or 40% chance that if you chose one randomly it would be a bomb. Since it's 2/5 chance of being a bomb and 3/5 chance of not. Does this probability actually work out in practice or is it still just as likely to be a bomb when clicked as anywhere else?
@nigelpascua2280
4 жыл бұрын
Expert-proficient(marunong)- guide
@arthurleonard8390
7 жыл бұрын
what version of minesweeper does he play
@xcv2315
7 жыл бұрын
very nice video thx man
@koutaibaalabd9602
8 жыл бұрын
i got to this point a long time ago, obviously by playing it a lot. but it annoys me when i have to try my luck which is stupid. i saw a record of 33 seconds for the expert level and it kills me that i don't know how that guy did it
@jimraynor3155
8 жыл бұрын
There's a Minesweeper clone on this site called "Mines": www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ You can play in-browser or download a desktop version. This version eliminates the luck aspect!
@andrewnicon
4 ай бұрын
It turns out I'm really too dumb for this game.
@hemplll187
3 жыл бұрын
good vid bro
@bobczech7774
Жыл бұрын
After 9.22337203e+18 years, i finally beat expert without flags! (Yes i really did so)
@narayandas4894
4 жыл бұрын
Thats amazing
@joeknapton3582
5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, a good amount of detail but not SO much that it drags. I didn't really necessarily learn anything here, but it was fun to see someone else try to explain the same methods I use personally.
@ar_xiv
2 жыл бұрын
Funny I know most of this or all but I figure them all the exact opposite way
@milkman1093
3 жыл бұрын
How do you do it so quick
@minus99mines81
3 жыл бұрын
PRO
@Lommy9999
7 жыл бұрын
I feel dumb
@hiimargo7058
2 жыл бұрын
Had the exact same 123 pattern. I don't understand why the wall square cannot be a bomb and trusted you. It was a bomb. This guide is wrong
@gianlucamyslimi1739
3 жыл бұрын
It's called Minesweeper, but you are avoiding the mines...
@HarshGupta-nz2qy
Ай бұрын
No they're swept after you find them
@arthurrobert2135
7 жыл бұрын
Realy realy realy good!!!
@gregoryzala136
8 жыл бұрын
that really helped alot thanks a lot
@michaelsong5555
6 жыл бұрын
4:35 Why would you leave them alone? You have to come back anyways. You might as well get over with it now, since the probability isn't going to change later.
@superyeah4ever2
5 жыл бұрын
He said that. Sometimes, you can get ways to solve the puzzle just by knowing the amount of bombs left.
@michaelsong5555
5 жыл бұрын
@@superyeah4ever2 Yeah, unless the bombs left is 1 (or whatever is left for that island), the probability won't change.
@superyeah4ever2
5 жыл бұрын
The probability won't change, but you'll be able to theorize where the bombs are and choose safe spots. The only time you shouldn't move on, is when you have a 50/50 chance that cannot be altered by anything around it.
@michaelsong5555
5 жыл бұрын
@@superyeah4ever2 No you wont. Assuming the island is actually isolated (which is what the case was in this video), nothing changes. The probability didn't change, the possible placement of bomb didn't change, and the number of bombs left in "inside the island" was more than 0. And as the video showed, he just guessed randomly. He even says that.
@superyeah4ever2
5 жыл бұрын
He even said that at the end, when you know what the number of mines left is, that can help you, which is true. So let's hypothesize that the number of bombs in that island was 5. If we know for a fact that there can only be 5 bombs in that area, we will know with certainty the position of 2 bombs, which are: a bomb adjacent to the "1", which is on its top left, and a bomb adjacent to the top right "3", which is on its bottom left, next to the "4". I know that because that's the only possible logical position. The other 3 bombs, however, can not be placed with complete certainty, but still, by knowing where the bombs could be, I can click on certain safe spots.
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