I wish this device didn’t feel like a potential scam, because this actually hits the nail on the head in terms of what I want in a phone. I want the ability to use the same applications I normally would, with e-ink and keyboard. I want the device to discourage my social media use while still being capable of regular productivity applications.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
It's the dream device. Hopefully they prove all of our doubts wrong.
@thetman0068
4 ай бұрын
@@LauraMalvoyante Indeed
@Astrobiologica
3 ай бұрын
same
@alexsmirnoff8129
Ай бұрын
@@thetman0068 never got any reply from the company, and subreddit is heavilty automoderated
@porvoonosho
4 ай бұрын
They had a dream of making their own phone from scratch, but quickly realized it's very, very hard and expensive, and went the OEM route. AliExpress has many querty models which have the exact dimensions (but an LCD screen) and specs of the updated version of the Minimal phone. So yes, it's a Chinese OEM phone with an e-ink display slapped on to it. And there's nothing wrong with that.
@sunnydivino
4 ай бұрын
Do you know how can I find those other oem phones on AliExpress?
@EstebanN3
4 ай бұрын
Unihertz makes both a 3.5 inch and 4.3 inch qwerty keyboard phones that work will. They are probably using some of the same parts.
@alexsmirnoff8129
3 ай бұрын
Did not see a single one. Could you point me?
@baddboo
Ай бұрын
I’m looking for the closest thing to a blackberry😫
@Voltarion_WWa
Ай бұрын
@@alexsmirnoff8129 Unihertz, for example.
@RyanNiemer
4 ай бұрын
I've been both interested in this and worried it was a scam since the beginning! It just keeps changing and changing.... aka, more and more like a scam. I would LOVE for a device like this to exist and would buy it in a heartbeat. That being said..... I don't think Minimal is ever going to really release this and worry they're just going to "take the money and run"
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
I feel the same. The updates are contradictory and the focus on the design over the functionality is a big red flag. The device is still set to release in September. I don't see how this is possible given all these changes that keep being announced.
@RyanNiemer
4 ай бұрын
@@LauraMalvoyante Yep. Too many red flags
@jacobcarrizales427
4 ай бұрын
It’s not worth $399 for sure. A minimalist phone should make calls, check emails, maybe have access to transportation apps and that’s it. It should do all of those things as well as possible. This is just a regular smartphone with an e-ink screen that’s less powerful than smartphones that are half the cost. It’s probably not a scam but it’s definitely not worth it at all.
@akvammen
4 ай бұрын
I backed one but later cancelled. I think I did the right thing
@Voltarion_WWa
Ай бұрын
@@jacobcarrizales427 And how exactly those transportation apps would end up on that phone, if not by an app store? I have ordered one. We'll see. It's a gamble at this point, but I could have afford it. If it's going to be a scam, I will back Mudita Kompakt or order myself a HiSense.
@submersedlalo5631
4 ай бұрын
I just want a qwerty phone with a current OS.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Me too. I think if they get it to production many people will get it for the keyboard.
@suryanima_chandranima
4 ай бұрын
Any opinion on the Xeta One phone? Literally has a Q20 keyboard. Which, I’ve been realizing, is a huge aspect to why I never went with unihertz, with their weird layout. I don’t like the number row on the minimal. I prefer the integrated dial pad like BB has done for ages.
@suryanima_chandranima
4 ай бұрын
Wait, I just went their website and they’ve updated the keyboard!! WTH?! No longer a 5 row with the numbers along the top, but integrated keypad to the left, like BB! If only their punctuation and symbol layout was like BB, too. Dollar sign on P? Instead of %? Why is % in the middle of the keyboard, near the ost used . , ?, etc, but ! is waay up at the top?
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
@@suryanima_chandranima I hadn't heard of the Xeta One but I will definitely go down a rabbit hole a see what I can learn about it. Thanks for letting me know!
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
@@suryanima_chandranima I'm not surprised they changed the design yet again. The keyboard is such an important aspect and those who know BlackBerry know that they had perfected the keyboard layout. This device is updated everyday and it's impossible to keep up 😅
@khamronboothe3632
4 ай бұрын
Amazing breakdown! I've been seeing ads for this project on Reddit and was somewhat interested. Thanks for the updates and analysis
@XtruhSpecialK
4 ай бұрын
Honestly an e ink phone with a qwerty keyboard is all I want. These changes seem to make it a more realistically usable phone so I think they're good.by virtue of e ink, this won't be tempting as a media consumption device. I don't think this thing will be ready for a while though
@bigture
4 ай бұрын
Interesting phone. Thanks for covering it. I've some thoughts regarding the concept of "minimalism" Being minimal should not be understood as being less powerful. It should be more of being concise and distraction free. To that end, inclusion of those features are well within the bounds describe above. Personally, I would like to see the inclusion of a programmable buttons on the device, such that I would be able to map functionality such as escape or ctrl-c
@JK-xz1lt
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping up the info on this device. I do hope it is real and not some vaporware product.
@jcursiolf
4 ай бұрын
As for the RAM increase, a work in a company that develops for Android and Google is now requesting a minimum of 6 GB of RAM just for a new model to be released with Android. Which means that 6 GB of RAM would be a low end device. This is what I believe caused them to change it.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
That's good to know. It's crazy how the minimum for RAM has gone up so much. Same for computers.
@CianMcsweeney
4 ай бұрын
@@LauraMalvoyante the result bad programming practices at large companies due to the pressure to "just ship it" from upper management
@alaneddy4575
7 күн бұрын
I love the spec, the classic ipod-like all white version suits me. I love the sd card. I absolutely do not want a front facing camera. I'd only use the back camera for scanning. Love the fingerprint reader. I think the screen size update is a good idea, and in combination with the keyboard will be very useable. Headphone jack is fantastic.
@nasbeck
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the updates :)
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@matthiaswilkens7754
4 ай бұрын
I would like a device like a Blackberry Passport. I am waiting and I hope, i can order in Amazon
@alaneddy4575
7 күн бұрын
Perhaps Minimal could develop 3 models in future. The current minimal update, a cut down uber-minimal device, and a "pro" version with larger, faster everything but still limited with regards to graphics and video. An e-ink smartphone replacement designed to lessen our use but not force minimalism would be great. Then the "mid" range which is the current spec and a properly limited device that really stops you over using it. The company could rent these and design a process of letting go. You start on the pro device, then after 3 months step down to tve mid range, then if needed go totally minimal. I'd combine this with AI designed to lessen your use and counsel you and assist with addiction.
@carlosespinal17
4 ай бұрын
I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I'm really looking forward to an e ink phone. I have a lightphone2 but it is useless to me.
@jameshjacksonjr
Күн бұрын
light phone 2 still gets updates 5 years in so small companies can do it and even with light phone 3 out updates will happen on both devices so to make long story short it is possible i have light phone 2 ive had it for 4 years and im upgrading i preordered light phone 3 for the camera
@rnbdanny
3 ай бұрын
I never understood why people think a bigger keyboard on a phone is better... in my experience in the golden BlackBerry times... the bigger the keyboard, the worst the typing experience was... In every way, it felt clunky and slow. The best keyboard I ever had was the BlackBerry Curve 8900. The keyboard on this phone was magical, so fast to type on, accurate without even looking at the phone, and the most tactile feeling... Move onto a larger keyboard... it all becomes worse (like with the BB Passport).
@LauraMalvoyante
3 ай бұрын
This is a huge reason I never got the BlackBerry Passport. I love BlackBerry but the form factor was too weird for me and it defeated the purpose of being a pocketable device with a ergonomic keyboard.
@rnbdanny
3 ай бұрын
@@LauraMalvoyante Exactly! Yet I see many comments always of people saying they wanted bigger keyboards on phones...
@centrica1234
3 ай бұрын
Keyone and key2 were great but they werent true Blackberries @LauraMalvoyante
@rnbdanny
3 ай бұрын
@@centrica1234 true, I had them both too, and even though I think they're better than most phones these days just because of the physical keyboard... I was missing the whole time the practicality of BB10 OS.
@小圓盒
4 ай бұрын
It’s a scam. Don’t forget it would still need fcc and ce before launch. Device don’t iterate daily. I liked the original design but after checking out the founder I opted to avoid this project.
@Daxiongmao87
4 ай бұрын
I'm just waiting and seeing. I'm quite disappointed in the updated design. Glad I decided to wait to purchase for this.
@cvcubes8578
4 ай бұрын
My thing about this is I need to know more about the software of the device before I can consider if I want to support the device or not because I use discord a lot the most phones that are considered minimum list Don't really work unless I'm willing to carry your iPad with me as well just to text my friends and partner and I want to see a demo of this device before I can consider buying it or not because $400 a lot of money for something you don't even know 100% how it's going to work and if it's going to fit your lifestyle or not
@jacobcarrizales427
4 ай бұрын
They’ve changed their mind several times. At this point it will work with all apps though. $400 may not be a lot for a phone but it’s more than double what you could get a phone with the same specs for just with an e-ink screen. Considering the kindle paperwhite signature has a screen that’s 5-6x larger and comes in at a little under $200 it’s definitely an insane markup.
@cvcubes8578
4 ай бұрын
@@jacobcarrizales427 The thing is I hadn't seen them use a working prototype at any point so I'm a little skeptical because $400 a lot of money to invest in something you don't know that 100% works The idea of it is great and all but like I would like to see execution of it
@lalew2
4 ай бұрын
just have no cameras
@em4me-Dan
4 ай бұрын
They better hurry on production as Bigme and Onyx are working on e-ink phones.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
I will buy an Onyx smartphone in a heartbeat. I love my Boox Palma 😄
@craigm9133
4 ай бұрын
I like everything about this device with the new specs, just wish it was from an established company.
@hdtravel1
4 ай бұрын
The Minimal Company Website as been totally updated with the new design and phone colors - says they are shipping September 2024
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Then they changed it after I recorded this video. I am very curious how they'll implement these changes and ship by September.
@grandcalifornia8410
4 ай бұрын
This phone will see a lot of delays. Expect first deliveries if it’s at all real to probably only start mid to late 2025
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Yes I agree. I can't believe they are still promising the first batch to be sent out in September...
@AndyInTheFort
3 ай бұрын
I am not a tech person anymore, and I really only use my iPhone for logging into apps for my work. What a waste of money it was to buy a $1,200 computer used only for 2fa apps. Will this phone be compatible with the various 2fa apps that I have to use for work? (Okta Verify, Microsoft Authenticator, VIP Access, RSA Authenticator, Google Authenticator).
@LauraMalvoyante
3 ай бұрын
Good question. It should theoretically work with 2FA apps if they are available in the Google Play Store.
@Yaduny
3 ай бұрын
Ugh... this device really does sound like a dream.. 😢 As in it doesn't seem like it's gonna be real. 😭
@LauraMalvoyante
3 ай бұрын
I really hope it's not a scam but the lack of updates is worrying.
@DrTheRich
4 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is the pixel resolution, pixels seems way bigger than even a low end e-reader. Makes text really hard to read and pixelated... Minimalism doesn't mean going back to MS-DOS pixel fonts
@FoulUnderworldCreature
4 ай бұрын
I assume that is to improve refresh rate because refresh rate of eink devices can be really, really bad. I have a Nook and it takes around 5 seconds to turn a page in an ebook.
@None17555
4 ай бұрын
I was eyeing this device a little while ago. I assume that's why your video came up. The updates look great to me. I want a QWERTY keyboard on an LTE enabled e-reader. I miss my old Kindle. The new keyboard and screen make it more appetizing for me. However, the points you raise make me very wary of giving them any money. This looks super shady, and by the time it ships (if it ships), it may already be woefully out of date.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
I'm really doubtful it will ship by September. So many flip flopping decisions this week alone has me very doubtful 🧐
@agokllani
4 ай бұрын
Great content. Keep going
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@marcfield1234
Ай бұрын
So it is a Android Smartphone with a keyboard and a e ink display. Cool. Probably not so good if you have a social media addiction. But for the rest of us . If I was to get one personaly I would want a non front facing all white one. Especially at 399. I agree with the commenter below. I just wish it didn't feel so scammy. Lets just say I wouldn't be pre-ordering.
@Astrobiologica
3 ай бұрын
I would have ordered it if they had stayed with the original design, and if it was on kickstarter not gogo.
@LauraMalvoyante
3 ай бұрын
Yes me too. I have ordered many tech items on Kickstarter with no regrets. Indiegogo is a red flag and a no-go for me.
@madhatterentmt6146
4 ай бұрын
im confused i want to preorder but on their site it says front facing camera optional but when you go to preorder there nothing to select front facing or not so ig ill wait
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
That is strange. I would wait because I'm sure the design will change. It will probably have or not have a front facing camera. Having so many options would greatly impact production.
@nickthaskater
3 ай бұрын
Light Phone 3 just made this irrelevant and it'll actually ship. I wish Light stuck with E Ink but it should still be good given it doesnt have a bunch of telemetry running in the background.
@LauraMalvoyante
3 ай бұрын
Yes I just saw the Light Phone 3 was announced. I hope it will be available for Europe. I doubt the Minimal Phone will make it to production this year or at all if they keep changing the design and specs.
@jameshjacksonjr
Күн бұрын
eink is good on the eyes to me this is more a phone for doing all the smartphone things just with a better on the eyes Eink screen for a minimal phone get a light phone
@nathaniellecompte55
4 ай бұрын
Honestly it seems like this company just wants to be bought out.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Good point. Especially judging by the people they''ve appointed to the leadership team.
@BrotherAlan
4 ай бұрын
I think its funny how smart phones have reached the same amount of RAM that most laptops have. Lots of bloatware?
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
So many apps are constantly running in the background, especially communication and social media. On our laptops we use these apps in the browser which is a lot easier to manage for the device.
@EdouardTavinor
2 ай бұрын
On Android phones apps run in their own environment and all interaction between apps needs to go through the intent system. This makes the operating system immensely secure but does increase RAM usage.
@石晗
3 ай бұрын
The upgraded one just looks so ugly…. I like the original design….
@Fr4nkSanchez
4 ай бұрын
I clicked on Pre-order but nothing happens. Maybe a scam?
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Oh no that's new. It could be a scam.
@MrScottyTay
4 ай бұрын
ughhhh, I'm no longer interested in this. phone is now too big and the corners look more sharp too. The original design looked way better for usability. The new tallness of the phone will make it feel not as stable when holding it to type on the keyboard. Guess I'll just have to hope something better will come down the line from somewhere else.
@石晗
3 ай бұрын
It’s not trust worthy if they keep changing their design. Who knows what the final one will be like….
@MrThrowUps
4 ай бұрын
im waiting for a proper hands on. :'D
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
Me too!
@GoodDay-id8ub
4 ай бұрын
I don’t want touch screen buttons under the screen and if it can wrap around would be amazing
@IvanRestoration
3 ай бұрын
Это моя мечта. Qwerty keyboard, e-ink screen. Hope it's not scum❤
@Yaduny
3 ай бұрын
Tho I admit I want it to have 5g pls 😅
@gregorydillon9167
4 ай бұрын
As a current Blackberry user whose poor little BB is dying, a production focused, physical qwerty keyboard phone with an easy on the eyes eink display has me intrigued. Unfortunately, i need a new phone before November, and there is no gaurenntee or even likelihood that this would be in my hand by then. That doesn't even factor in the time to make decisions after seeing trusted reviewers with it if it even becomes a real product.
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
I would love to see it come out and be reviewed by people who know more than me. I've worked in software and I know implementing changes like this could take a lot longer than their roadmap states. I can't imagine being in the design phase for a hardware device and shipping out by September. The manufacturers must be feeling the pressure too.
@gregorydillon9167
4 ай бұрын
@@LauraMalvoyante also, in the unlikely event they hit their target, do you want a phone that went from concept to shipping in four months?
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
@@gregorydillon9167 good point and no thank you. It will be very buggy and poorly constructed with a rush like that.
@nickhristov
3 ай бұрын
the whole thing sounds like vapourware
@LauraMalvoyante
3 ай бұрын
Yes it does
@haasii
3 ай бұрын
scope creep
@HackSparrrowakaSicario
4 ай бұрын
I was planning to pay 399 july for which the expected delivery said to me was September 2024. Now im confused
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
The date has changed a few times. Given all the recent design changes and optional front facing camera I am sure that production will be pushed again.
@HackSparrrowakaSicario
4 ай бұрын
@@LauraMalvoyante 🫡
@bravestarr19
4 ай бұрын
How is this a minimal phone lol . This is a smart phone..plain and simple..There is NOTHING about this phone that will make you use it less. It will be as addictive as a smart phone..I will stick with my Light phone 2..a TRUE minimal phone
@LauraMalvoyante
4 ай бұрын
I think it's just marketing to call it a minimal phone. The light phone 2 is the ultimate minimalist phone!
@bigture
4 ай бұрын
Interesting phone. Thanks for covering it. I've some thoughts regarding the concept of "minimalism" Being minimal should not be understood as being less powerful. It should be more of being concise and distraction free. To that end, inclusion of those features are well within the bounds describe above. Personally, I would like to see the inclusion of a programmable buttons on the device, such that I would be able to map functionality such as escape or ctrl-c
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