I don't have any issues with the 'letter-box' view for the cockpit... it's not the shape of the screen, it's the distance the pilot sit from the screen that makes a difference. The Freelancer is HORRIBLE to fly because you sit so far back from the screen and the dashboard is just so deep. However, the C2 also has a letterbox view, but because you sit relatively close to the screen, it's not an issue and no one complains. So, I'm sure the devs are aware of this and I'm sure you sit much closer to the screen as well as the screen on the Starlancer being proportionally much taller so that as the pilot, you get a much greater field of view.
@findingretirement6649
4 сағат бұрын
The target audience are the gamers who like the roll play aspect of owning a ship not the bare-bones utilitarian aspect of everything in the ship. My number one complaint of almost all SC ships is they don't feel like something you would want to live in while traveling the stars. To me this ship checked all the boxes. It has almost the exact same amount of dedicated cargo as the Zeus CL but it's easy to access not a pain. It also has a secondary cargo/vehicle bay that is the same size as the Corsair's and will hold a Rover or the Argo CSV-SM and the upcoming FM so you can use this ship as a midsize base builder opening up that entire game play loop when it comes online. I personally can't stand the bunk sleeping arrangement so those private rooms are long overdue and welcomed from my perspective and definitely not a waist of space as well as the crew lounge/mess hall area. Finally a crew lounge with enough room of add some furniture and make it feel like a home not a submarine. It's has multi boarding and egress points, an Armory, windows a good weapons load-out for a cargo hauler. This ship rocks and is the closet ship you can get in the verse to having your own Firefly less the shuttles. I was waiting to trade a smaller ship with LTI I had for the Zeus CL and did then this came the following day and immediately traded my Zeus for it and will have zero regrets.
@TheGrandNizmo
2 сағат бұрын
I get Firefly vibes from the interior too! Keep in mind the rear hold can take an additional 96 scu AND vehicles. The cargo grid is on the sides based on the placement of the caution lines. It’s believed to stack 3 high.
@archiewoodward4115
2 сағат бұрын
Yea I’m gonna have fun hailing from pyro to Stanton
@luistigerfox
Сағат бұрын
Well the MAX starlancer actually has nearly double the cargo volume of the CL, sitting just above connie taurus.
@Teepee_luvr
Сағат бұрын
It has around 224 SCU or something like that total
@toecutter9372
2 сағат бұрын
i love MISC ships, even the "letterbox" cockpit. I love this entire line of vessels and cant wait to fly them.
@pilsatortube
2 сағат бұрын
Best looking ships in the game!
@rederickfroders1978
48 минут бұрын
Yeah the letterbox design are fine. These arent combat ships. They are combat ships only when attacked
@Ryggs
Сағат бұрын
This gives me a strong Firefly Serenity vibe.
@gortt7611
29 минут бұрын
Agreed
@Dracounguis
28 минут бұрын
When I first saw the Starlancers I thought... _"Look, it's the Odyssey for poor people!"_ 🤣
@nobodyknowsimgay
14 минут бұрын
I bought it because I'm not ready to wait a few more years for when I can use my Odyssey CCU lol. Should be a good middle ground in the meantime.
@schakTheNerd
37 минут бұрын
I already melted my Reclaimer and my Taurus. Picked up both Starlancers. I'll probably melt something later to pick up the BLD once it's available. Love at first sight.
@Macskinny76
Сағат бұрын
I picked it, I specialize in logistics and I'd have fun flying the ship, I think it'll be good to be able to still have cargo and the nura all in the same place. Unlike the Taurus which seem to barely fit the ursa with wise, you'd still make money but not enough. With the additional 128 scu of cargo on the SL Max, you'd come out on top when it comes to holding cargo, granted, no on board tractor beam like the Taurus.
@LemonToGo
4 сағат бұрын
I got the 5 bucks terrapin to MAX ccu just in case npc crew will be a thing one day. Would not make a major investment on it yet. The ship seems set up to work well with npc crew. The corridors are wide, quarters are easily accessible and engineering is all in one spot. Plus all the areas where you would need crew are on one level. No need for NPC to ride elevators. If you unload cargo in a dangerous place they can man the turrets while you rush back to the flight deck to make an escape attempt. However, if you do contract work at org bases for example the amount of risk will be minimal anyway, since the bases are heavily defended. If NPC crew never makes it that upgrade just becomes a paint for my E1.
@pheebs8451
5 сағат бұрын
I’m really surprised you didn’t compare the TAC against the Andromeda and Corsair?
@Exglorious27
32 минут бұрын
Seems like the Corsair wouldn't compare well, as it shines as a expedition ship, especially with the recent changes to the Corsair. Strongly agree with Andromeda comparison!
@BigSneed404
5 сағат бұрын
To me, the TAC specifically is very compelling as a general purpose combat ship for group play. It seems extremely flexible, being competent at throwing its weight around in space while offering a medical bed and sufficient storage for loot and ground vehicles to make it a great FPS focused ship too, all in a footprint smaller than something like a Polaris. It doesn't have the sheer firepower of something like my Perseus, but its so much more versatile. If you've got five or so friends and combat of all variety is your jam, I can really see the TAC being a home run.
@schakTheNerd
28 минут бұрын
Don't forget it also has 8 jump seats for even more friends. And it still has 96scu of cargo. The Tac might become my new daily once it's out. It's big, but I'm not convinced that's going to bother me.
@alvarg
4 сағат бұрын
I actually quite like the layout of the max, I dont feel like every ship has to be the absolute best for everything, or have its space utilized to the best possible efficiency. I flew connie for ages and honestly its a nice ship but it just feels kind of boring, the lack of a tractor beam in the starlancer doesn't really seem like all that big of a deal
@jc2k153
2 сағат бұрын
Thanks for the comparative - think I'll stick with my Freelancers for mostly solo gameplay. Can see small orgs liking both of these variants though.
@Dracounguis
29 минут бұрын
My first pledge back in 2013 was the Freelancer. So I had no defense against the Starlancer Max. It's already in my hangar. 😭 And at $225 it seems good value for what you're getting. It's less than my MSR! Or roughly the same price as the currently completely useless Terrapin!
@Dracounguis
20 минут бұрын
I know it's wasted space at the moment but I do like the idea of comfortable quarters for the crew. And since it looks like it's in the same space as the hangar Bay on the Tac, they probably felt they had to fill the space with something 'good' and not just have it be dead space on this variant. Personally I could have done with a bit smaller rooms if they could have fit a small medbed in there! I don't think any ship of this size should be lacking medical facilities.
@gortt7611
35 минут бұрын
What a fantastic video, so clear and concise, well done Space Tech
@RamzUchi
Сағат бұрын
You are way better at the description here I love it. I agree about all of the wasted space and it was my first thought too. I do think though that the idea is that this will be for super long journeys and RP so its more for that crowd. I would have loved a variant that was more focused on just cargo though and this be more of an ES variant.
@andrewcoulthard-clark
3 сағат бұрын
...Now I want the Carracks cargo bay to retract seamlessly into the undercarriage...
@luistigerfox
Сағат бұрын
I would love it to function, period.
@JL-rj9fl
Сағат бұрын
Great overview Space! I think the Taurus remains the most versatile all-rounder with its ability to handle zero-g cargo work better. That being said, that isn't going to stop me from picking up a MAX. I was looking for a long range cargo hauler and based on the description (and it's living amenities) this ship should do just that.
@LordCritish
5 сағат бұрын
Four size five weapons ... you forgot to mention "*during first 4 months after release". We all know how it goes with the nerf after that!
@burgerpops7182
3 сағат бұрын
he will not its a gunship not an exploration ship like the corsair
@Humpdurious
2 сағат бұрын
@@burgerpops7182 tell that to the redeemer they just nerfed
@VersesX33
2 сағат бұрын
@@Humpdurious as far as i'm aware they aligned the redeemer with what it should be? Making it more manoeuvrable, more able to tackle fighters and not just sit and take a Hammerhead to the face.
@JuanRodriguez-bs1dq
32 минут бұрын
@@Humpdurious the lick back was crazy fast lol
@TheThorJunki
2 сағат бұрын
I get the concerns about the large social areas/bedrooms as you could fit a good chunk more cargo. But this is intended as a deep space ship, required for long journeys and having that bit more social space for the crew would be beneficial. Rather than cramped quarters.
@JL-rj9fl
Сағат бұрын
I like the social area as well. If I designed the interior I would have kept one of the big living quarters for the Captain, and replaced the second one on the same side with a small infirmary with 1 tier 3 med bed. On the opposite side I would have merged the two crew rooms I to a shared space for 3 , something like the Zeus ES/CL.
@TheThorJunki
Сағат бұрын
@@JL-rj9fl definitely agree with that and as a deep space ship it absolutely should have had a med bay. Almost annoying it doesn't but at least you can fit a Nursa at the compromise of cargo if you really thing you'll need one
@JL-rj9fl
Сағат бұрын
@@TheThorJunki Yeah, I'm glad we can get a Nursa in there with what seems like room to spare for other cargo/loaders.
@Hawkeye6941
4 сағат бұрын
My only question is where does the galaxy fit in base building? In citizencon last year they said themselves it was for large buildings.
@drinksanddice6428
Сағат бұрын
Taurus can only reasonably use about 100scu due to its cargo grid layout. (14 8scu boxes can fit, then you have to use 2scu and 4scu to fill the rest of the space) It is an old ship that was not made with the current cargo system in mind.
@Roylevis
4 сағат бұрын
My plan with my Max is to upgrade it to the builder when it release. Since i already got a Odyssey. That will scout ahead for a good location to settle down. Then grab the builder
@tripperdan
36 минут бұрын
I do love my FL MAX and after I had CCU'd my MAX to the Taurus, I ended up getting another MAX to have. For me, the Starlancer is a nice progression from the Freelancer (not a replacement). So I've decided to CCU my Taurus to the Starlancer MAX.
@johnwalker579
3 сағат бұрын
I bought a Max the secnd I saw it. I have been a Connie lover since day 1 (I havee the Rear Admiral game package from 2013) but the max just screams Connie 2.0 I have since bought all the paints, a CCU to a TAC and another CCU from my connie to a Max. I haven't been this hyped for a ship for a long time and I could see it not only being my daily driver, but my only driver. My only reques would be a Star Lancer race transporter. keep the fury hangar, move the Max's hotel accomodation downstairs and add a coupl of Pulse bays. A nice ship to rock up to race events with.
@Winterx69
2 сағат бұрын
Who knows, but with a bit of luck, we might see an RSI ship of similar size and role.
@novalis791
2 сағат бұрын
Starlancers offer a breath of fresh air
@Wh1terider
Сағат бұрын
Picked up a Lancer Max with a CCu to a TAC. To make the best of the TAC's use of strengths and obvious metrics for ground based warfare. I'm reserving the upgrade until a better understanding of air to ground based avionics and countermeasure systems that I feel need to be fleshed out. To me, this should be an obvious choice for a Co-Pilot to Pilot combat meaningful experience. Cheers~ Mike
@dizzylemongaming2175
4 сағат бұрын
I bought my Max just now and now that I know there are double beds, my husband and will definitely be bunkmates.
@power4giwrgos
4 сағат бұрын
Only the tac has medbeds
@dizzylemongaming2175
2 сағат бұрын
@@power4giwrgos I said double beds not med-beds. Look at the Max habs. Each room has is a private suite.
@Richard_Cranium
Сағат бұрын
@@power4giwrgos learn to read 😂😂😂
@madtitan1946
57 минут бұрын
They look like a mini MISC Odyssey. Each sharing some features of the Odyssey. Wonder if the Odyssey is coming soon.
@thefaithfulcraftsman7471
8 минут бұрын
These are a cool ship but my Pioneer being in production in the next few weeks with a delivery date of next year fills the purpose of my fleet setup. Also, given the info they gave us I'd tend to think the BLD will be ready before the TAC since they want those large drones for basebuilding. They said the Pioneer will release within a year but won't be at the launch of basebuilding and crafting which means they plan on releasing it early to mid next year and hence would need the BLD at launch with the Pioneer following later next year. Either way, this is my main loop and very excited for all of it! God bless!
@RainOfFodderco
13 минут бұрын
I am so much more happy with the distribution of firepower on the TAC
@GW2Vids1
3 сағат бұрын
In 4.0 and engineering, manning those ships will be a pain
@Verinia
Сағат бұрын
Great video! The MAX feels as if a semi truck's tractor and trailer swapped sizes. SO MUCH wasted space for hauling.
@GarrickMerriweather
Сағат бұрын
Not going to lie - the Starlancer feels like an indirect, passive aggressive reply to *_Starfield_* . It closely resembles the ship-image used in all of the pre-release marketing.
@Dracounguis
14 минут бұрын
For the size of this thing I would have given it 2 Shields (and the Tac 3, like the A2 has) And every cargo ship of medium size or larger should have a ship based tractor beam. It makes no sense to not have one on a dedicated cargo ship.
@joelellis7035
2 сағат бұрын
I'm thinking that the double bed configuration for the Starlancer is to allow for two to a room which could allow for a second shift onboard.
@flechman63
2 сағат бұрын
Will wait for the Build for the base building game play plus to see what the cost will be.
@quelsar
2 сағат бұрын
Awesome job as always Space
@valkyrie1689
8 минут бұрын
A space bike hanger for sure
@networknomad5600
43 минут бұрын
Yoooooo that’s the Firefly!
@tarkabuka
3 сағат бұрын
I do love the Max, i think it fits all my needs for my game style, only one thing that i think it could be better, the small hanger should be the same on all startlancers, we dont need that stupid crew space, we could land MPUV on it or a fury, and that would make this ship reallyyyyyy great.
@subnautios7023
2 сағат бұрын
I upgraded to a max, and I'll probably end up upgrading that to a tac once it's out. Depends how much I like the max
@bamcorpgaming5954
7 минут бұрын
My only beef with the MAX is that it is almost the same size as the gemini (which I own), and it has less cargo, and doesnt do refueling. My main questions are going to be about the shields. The gemini currently has 3xs3 but the stats page says one s3 for the max. The gemini also has armor and does refueling. Once we figure out maneuverability and shields ill feet a bit better about things, however I did pick it up. If it ends up being a letdown or too much overlap with my gemini for little to no benefit ill end up melting it for something else. The gemini has been my main ship for years.
@sergeyignatenkov6595
3 сағат бұрын
Also cant understand why they point than in Max crew is only one gunner, maybe gunner will have to change seats from rear to front turret to have access ?
@Orginal_Sinner
Сағат бұрын
I upgraded my zeus es for the Starlancer Max. I also purchased the tac, this is exactly the ship I've been waiting on for a while. I actually find it more interesting than my Polaris.
@ChinashopRodeo
4 сағат бұрын
I missed the part about the Tac not being immediately available. Thanks!
@dtroit2
Сағат бұрын
I believe the max and tac are flyable at IAE and the BLD is next year.
@Stakar0gord
4 сағат бұрын
Did you forget about the Hull-C when talking about largest letterbox window'd bridge? Remember. The Carrack will need to deploy its canopy in combat less it become more vulnerable because of all that glass. Curious how my ever so loved Zeus will manage that, but it a vastly smaller ship. Great video otherwise... really like how you highlighted the areas of discussion with colour or lack there of.
@jimc7022
Сағат бұрын
It’s tough to compare this to the Taurus. It’s expected that the Connie’s will get a nerf to its size 5 guns.
@kristjanaristefansson9694
4 сағат бұрын
The only decision is "you want to build base?" If yes, buy new ship. None of your competitors have building drones. So not really comparable
@Luzganek
3 сағат бұрын
TAC seems to be perfect ship to fight in incoming big worm boss battles. Respawn, cargo big enoght to take ground vechicles + extra weapons that can target Groud target. I do not see better ship them this to do that job now.
@sergeyignatenkov6595
3 сағат бұрын
Yeah TAC is more a dropship and you havent seen gatling guns in drop area from the corners - its another part for it dropship use. 5size turrets with their angles seems to be more for drop option Waiting Starlancer for exploration - it can be marvelous
@RobynLeSueur
3 сағат бұрын
I understand your reasoning for wanting more SCU or utility over large living spaces, but consider my counter argument; SPACE HOUSE
@Trikie77
3 сағат бұрын
i already have it but i am not sticking to that as they say the Ironglad is comming an Arratra so that is going be whare i am going rest later on can i make or buy ing if we ever get there
@kebasor
4 сағат бұрын
Note that carrying a vehicle will impact your cargo capacity, as the rear bay space for a vehicle is counted in the overall cargo capacity. Using the rear for an Ursa-size vehicle will only leave the 128 SCU of the main bay to use.
@TheGrandNizmo
2 сағат бұрын
I don’t believe this is correct. The caution lines give ample space for 96 SCU (8x2x3 on either side). If it’s not stacked 3 high, it’s really weird to have caution lines running the middle of your grid lol. We’ll have to wait and see, but thats how it looks to me.
@falsecode1915
Сағат бұрын
I don’t think this is right, the screenshots I’ve seen of the vehicle bay show the cargo snapped to the side, leaving the middle open for a vehicle, or potentially more cargo if you’re fine having it off grid
@kebasor
Сағат бұрын
@@TheGrandNizmo maybe, but the narrator on the stage said "use it for cargo or carry a vehicle", and the gist of the commentary seemed to be that carrying a vehicle would be an either-or thing. If you can carry a vehicle and cargo without reduction, I'll be happy, but I'll note the ATLS shown was taking up part of the cargo grid rather than being in the open area, so I suppose we'll see.
@guynamedmaggi5520
45 минут бұрын
I have a wife and those double beds are what we wanted in the connie😂 your right though most people wont have company over but some couples do play this game together.
@xxxxxx7469
32 минут бұрын
The TAC is a bit of everything. - Its a mid range cargo - Its a micro carrier - Its a low end dropship - Its a pretty good gunship - Its a low range medical ship - Its non of the above. The TAC is a multi-role ship on steroids. It can do most things, but not to well. 8 troops is not realy comparable with the Valkyries 24, the med-bay cant compare with an Apollo, It cant carry a light fighter like the Polaris or Oddesy , It cant haul as much cargo as a Caterpillar, and its to fat, slow and has to many guns aimed downwards to compete against a redeemer (yes even post nerf). Its the ultimate jack of all trades, master of none.
@Tank_Facts
2 сағат бұрын
I see this ship and cant stop thinking about two things: 1. Who in the world am I even going to be playing with by the time this ship comes out given the game's recent trajectory and 2. The Freelancer is still touted as the largest ship still able to squeeze through small jump points- so if I got this one anyways, I'd be giving up on that utility for "more freelancer."
@CraigPaschang
Сағат бұрын
Pretty sure they did away with jump gate sizes for permanent jump points. They were (intentionally?) ambiguous about transient jump points having sizes.
@ninetalesxyo8842
3 сағат бұрын
I really love the MISC Hull C habitation area, which for a similar sized ship that crews 1 - 4, has a single habitation/mess/kitchen shared space with 4 nice bunks, that leads into a single communial storage and shower/bathroom on the top floor. The starlancer MAX layout is horrible. They have essentially just removed the 4 bunks and stuck a pool table in the habitation where otherwise you could have had additional cargo space or a hanger space. Its not even a manufacturer ethos thing since both are MISC similar sized ships... why change the already pratical/beautiful habitation of the MISC Hull C..... Couple this with the terrible cockpit view and how recently ship balancing removing S5 guns from... certain ships at this price range. To then include S5 weapons with the TAG is a slap in the face, to owners. The overall the MAX is competively priced but its top floor is completely useless if you want to fly it solo half the time. I would say the TAC interior space is better with medical/dropship/hanger spaces. I wonder if the Starlancer BLD will have a hanger or a useless habitation space.
@reamoinmcdonachadh9519
4 сағат бұрын
Clearly the Starlancer MAX with a Crew of 4 can double the size of that crew to 8, (double beds imply two persons a room)and the ship is designed for a "family" concern to operate it. In any case, ALL of the Starlancers are Multi-Crew, and therefore more "Org Focused" than the casual player(s) and unsuited to Solo Ops.
@joeendel3614
2 сағат бұрын
I will wait untill I see what is left after the nerf...
@toasteroc
4 сағат бұрын
the only thing i wonder about the tac its, Will be able the 2 size 5 turrets aim forwards to the same target than the pilot?
@VersesX33
2 сағат бұрын
Unlikely, they seem to be aimed at ground assault for the 8 people it's dropping off
@Winterx69
2 сағат бұрын
Yeah, no. That dorsal turret placement just screams forced multicrew and inflated crew size. While said letterbox view is a design issue originating from mere form over function that can be fixed via optimal pilot seat placement, the disfunctional turret placement comes as per gameplay design and will impact ship owners to a far greater degree.
@davewills148
2 сағат бұрын
Yeah! i have to say i never notice the cockpit visibility in any ship, quite possibly because im used to DCS/XP12 and MSFS, tobi and camera custom camera views take care of that. I like the Starlancer series, as i have just melted $5000 of fleet, cost doesn't hamper buying......melt is a godsend. I dont tend to let stats hamper my buying, yet i will swap out components/weapons and tweak ship systems. Nice overview, very helpful. As someone who never really bothers wit CitizenCON, CIG outdid themselves imo, the level of immersion, depth and player freedom is staggering, CIG have not been sitting on their laurels by any means. Can only imagine your joy. Kudos
@sauriak8286
4 сағат бұрын
The real competitor to the MAX is the other jpeg aka the Railen which is superior in many ways for a similar price.
@CraigPaschang
Сағат бұрын
Railen will be a pain to load/unload unless they reconcept those 3 SCU pods. I melted mine 😢
@goldfishmentality
6 сағат бұрын
This ship is really weird. It's a misc ship, but it's built like a luxury explorer. Yet it doesn't have the functionality or competitiveness to keep up with other explorers in its class. And that's not even mentioning how utterly forgotten exploration as a mechanic still is.
@Stormyy6310
4 сағат бұрын
More like exploration is utterly inexistant yeah
@ezenzeyt7661
2 сағат бұрын
its not an explorer
@404-Err0r
5 сағат бұрын
CIG... Thanks but no thanks.. how about you fix up the starfarer and give us the cargo pods you promised back in 2016? Make the Hull B while you're at it.
@OfficerRondog
2 сағат бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!
@LordCritish
4 сағат бұрын
They need to change the MISC-style MFDs! How they're projected into the air as holograms is downright awful!
@LemonToGo
4 сағат бұрын
Looks like the Starlancer has two physical mfd's like the Hull A so no need to worry.
@pirateradio8420
2 сағат бұрын
I know I'm in the minority, but for ships like the MAX the letter box view is all you need. It looks good and gives us a sense of being inside a ship. Struts and letter box views are all you need for these sorts of ships and I feel it gives a more realistic feel. Fighters should definitely have more unobstructed views, like an F-16 and it's bubble canopy giving you a 360 deg view, but you don't get that in a C-130 for example.
@MrKill_SC
5 сағат бұрын
Not it.
@RamzUchiha
4 сағат бұрын
WINDOWS!!!!!!
@NomeDeArte
2 сағат бұрын
Kinda wasted space, isn’t it?
@ronelicabandi9706
3 сағат бұрын
Oh no starlancer pilot has picture of family in hollywood trope that'll mean he'll die. 😢 😅
@Winterx69
2 сағат бұрын
"Crew expendable..." it's a Hollywoodland classic.
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