Jim Joyce was not banned from Galarraga games for the blown call. He isn't allowed to participate in those games because Joyce and Galarraga co-authored a book on sportsmanship after the blown call and are now considered business partners.
@gregengel1616
4 ай бұрын
And Angel Hernandez is still untouchable!
@justina9137
4 ай бұрын
Playing the race card. And MLB says no you just suck
@joshh4464
4 ай бұрын
There's already plenty of dedicated content about him
@jamesdixon6332
3 ай бұрын
It's because if you criticize him, you're only attacking his Cuban heritage and that's racist.
@kylemccrane8228
3 ай бұрын
He’s gone!
@2girls1up
3 ай бұрын
@@jamesdixon6332retired today
@Cardinals97
4 ай бұрын
It wasn’t actually the call that got Jim Joyce banned from calling Armando Galleragha games it was the fact that after the infamous call the two of them co wrote a book about the incident and MLB didn’t want the risk of Bias accusations against him
@studogable
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing that out. Joyce and Galleraga have both been utter gentlemen about the situation. It's one of my favorite stories about character and humility.
@SportDawgs
4 ай бұрын
Jim Joyce was a good umpire outside of that bad call. Which he owned it. If we had reviews back then it would of been a perfect game
@emupike6
4 ай бұрын
@@SportDawgs yup, and the difference about him and bad umpires is he actually felt bad, guy broke down after when he was being interviewed. loved how Galleragha handled it too even though he lost the immortality of a perfect game
@jonnydanger7181
3 ай бұрын
Who would want to read an entire book about that one call?
@poika22
3 ай бұрын
@@jonnydanger7181 The key to the print industry isn't making books "to read", it's creating products that fans of the team can buy as a father's day gift or whatever.
@ronaldpatton5668
4 ай бұрын
Fans have never gone to a game to see the umpires.
@Junior-ck3jq
4 ай бұрын
But a million armchair umpires are here watching the super slo-mo and replays. Swearing they could do it better.
@noteworthyinsignificance
4 ай бұрын
That's not true. Just ask the umpires!
@noteworthyinsignificance
4 ай бұрын
@@Junior-ck3jq This is a horrible straw man. I haven't seen anyone say they can do it better. They just want the people who are paid to do this at the highest level to do it better.
@tomasneel1980
4 ай бұрын
I do
@maxscameraguy
4 ай бұрын
Unless, you are dressed as an umpire
@mason.11
4 ай бұрын
The really sad part is that out of the thousands of cases in which umpires deserve discipline, these are the only cases of it actually happening. Furthermore, I don’t even think Joe West (Beltre) or Jim Joyce deserved the discipline for the things here. MLB’s priorities are just beyond fucked up. Especially considering that the Mike Winters case pretty much happens every other week nowadays.
@roberthudson1959
4 ай бұрын
West deserved to be disciplined for making a personal attack on a player. MLB didn't suspend Joyce, they just chose to be careful about his schedule, and it wasn't the first time something like that happened. Whether or not it became public, Ron Luciano was supposedly not scheduled to work Baltimore games because of his poor relationship with Earl Weaver.
@roguishpaladin
4 ай бұрын
@@roberthudson1959 Except that I'm not getting "personal attack" vibes from his comment about Beltre or Beltre's response to it. Beltre's a bit of a goof, and it feels like West might have been making a joke with a seed of truth rather than grinding an axe.
@roberthudson1959
4 ай бұрын
@@roguishpaladin The comment, stripped of its context, has lived beyond the retirement of both men. Beltre may have responded graciously, but the jest should not have been made.
@lucieleimbach
4 ай бұрын
Dave Palone disliked Cincinnati’s SS Dave Concepcion. He made that very clear.
@droogie76
4 ай бұрын
Oh the Jim Joyce one was so egregious. One of the biggest blown calls of all time.
@Norcat10
4 ай бұрын
At least he owned it.
@joeg5414
4 ай бұрын
it's ridiculous that the MLB didn't come in and change it.
@gregwagner9759
4 ай бұрын
Jim Joyce did him the greatest favor. If he calls that right, it’s a perfect game nobody ever remembers. Now we all talk about it and know it was a perfect game, regardless of the record book
@j.thomas7128
4 ай бұрын
@@gregwagner9759oh bullsnot. You couldn't name the pitchers name before watching this video. Bad logic.
@pronkb000
4 ай бұрын
@@joeg5414 Should they retroactively declare Jorge Orta out in Game 6 of the '85 World Series, too? Or declare that Derek Jeter was out on fan interference in Game 1 of the '96 ALCS? It was a bad call but I don't like the idea of changing something that happened after the fact. (And no, this is not remotely comparable to changing a hit to an error or vice versa--that's bookkeeping. It's not taking something that happened and declaring that something different happened--the end result is always the same, that the batter reached base.)
@damonhill677
4 ай бұрын
"1 game for grabbing jersey" you do that to an ump and MLB will give you a week .. or longer
@jackricketts7025
3 ай бұрын
He should’ve gotten permanent suspension or no pay for the rest of his career !
@KevinMiller-xn5vu
Күн бұрын
@@jackricketts7025If you're referring to being fired, then yes, I agree.
@metropod
4 ай бұрын
If they still refuse to overturn Joyce’s call retroactively… at least retcon it as an error and give the poor man a no-hitter…
@thebearline
4 ай бұрын
As a Tigers fan, I prefer the blown call. How many pitchers have thrown perfect games and don't get remembered? He will always be known as the guy who got screwed
@goodfella685
4 ай бұрын
Also what's it matter now, it's not about the actual no hitter when your talking about it years later, it's the feeling and celebration he would of had with his team, they all got robbed not only him.
@DrVarner
3 ай бұрын
At risk of my own life, it looked very close. Doesn’t the tie go to the runner.
@thebearline
3 ай бұрын
@@DrVarner usually, yes. But in this case the throw beats the runner by 2 steps. If his foot was over the bag about to step on it, that would make more sense for the "tie" if that makes any sense lol
@DrVarner
3 ай бұрын
@@thebearline Thanks for that reply. I rewatched it at .25 speed. Pitcher was on the bag with the ball two steps ahead of the runner. Just like you said.
@ckuty1
3 ай бұрын
Minor note: The Jim Joyce/Galarraga ban was due to them publishing a book together about the experience, which made them business partners, so MLB wanted to avoid the appearance of impropriety and disallowed Joyce to work his games after that. If umpires were banned from working games of players they missed calls for simply because they missed big calls we couldn't have umpires for any games because they all miss calls all the time.
@kevinstull8552
4 ай бұрын
Where's the clip of the umpire who kept staring at Bumgarner instead of checking his hands for sticky substances?
@Goose_0709
4 ай бұрын
Dan Bellino wasn’t suspended for that, but he should have been.
@justina9137
4 ай бұрын
Joe West did the staredown
@youtubecommentsectiondebates
4 ай бұрын
Was waiting to see Angel Hernandez on one of these, but I guess he doesn't face consequences for his horrible calls
@kevinmoore2929
3 ай бұрын
He didn't get to work playoff games for a few years. With his current lawsuit, I don't think MLB can keep him from working them. At the very least, they can only get away with him working non-high profile series.
@cbsparr
4 ай бұрын
That Galarraga one hurt my damn feelings, not even a Tigers fan. I remember that one clear as day.
@patcrowe9780
4 ай бұрын
Mike Winters should have been suspended for the rest of the season for baiting. It needs to be done more
@oldfrend
Ай бұрын
bradley was ahothead but he was a damn good baseball player. i firmly believe that knee injury ruined his career.
@OntarioRob
4 ай бұрын
There's a few umpires that seem almost jealous of the fame that MLB players get. Joe West wanted a piece of that & Angel Hernandez definitely wants fame & glory he thinks he's deserving of. Instead of trying to be the center of attention by one upping the players, maybe he should focus on being the most accurate & fair umpire instead. If he wasn't protected by his union, he would never be able to continue doing the worst possible job any umpire in the history of MLB baseball has ever done. He's not just missing a few calls to be noticed. He's making the wrong call on a huge percentage of pitches
@LemonStir
4 ай бұрын
And your take is worse than any Angel Hernandez blown call ever LOL!!
@OntarioRob
3 ай бұрын
@LemonStir OH good, my own personal troll. I've never had a troll before. Tell me, what's it like not knowing anything & just making comments that make you look like a tool ? Let's see if you can answer my question with some intelligence instead of falling back on stupidity
@danny6032
4 ай бұрын
Angel Hernandez’s three overturned calls in a playoff game cost him the World Series that season, so he was unofficially “suspended” for the rest of the postseason.
@klove618
3 ай бұрын
You not saying you perfect, the comments say otherwise. You’re a good person as a mechanic and a human being….hats off to you sir!
@justina9137
4 ай бұрын
Bob Davidson always seems to have a sinister smile on his face waiting on the next one to throw out
@papilgee4evaeva
4 ай бұрын
Him and CB Bucknor.
@aintlyon304
3 ай бұрын
I remember this game and I think Jim Joyce has since admitted his mistake. Armando Galarraga pitched a perfect game in my book, but what I remember most is that he handled the entire situation with grace. He's a class act.
@lafelkins
4 ай бұрын
What was Joe West supposed to do with Papelbon, a guy half his age, in his face not letting him move?
@roberthudson1959
4 ай бұрын
Wait for help. He did something he wasn't even supposed to think about doing.
@Tbiblaine23
4 ай бұрын
You pull a guy in when you’re trying to get him to move?
@schmee9025
Ай бұрын
1. why are you defending joe west 2. why would he pull him in like he was gonna kiss em 3. they should have kissed
@stevepetrelli8025
14 сағат бұрын
The umpires forget that it's a baseball league,not an umpires league. People don't pay good money to come see umpires!!
@PeteTheRock2002
4 ай бұрын
The Culbreath one was really mindboggling. How do you allow two pitching substitutions to happen before there was a pitch?
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
Exactly. You face one batter and then you can go. I don’t know how the whole crew didn’t think for a second and say, “He has to face one batter doesn’t he?”
@oldfrend
Ай бұрын
@@MXSHYYYY that's been the no.1 rule of relief pitching sinch forever. absolute clown show to forget that.
@MXSHYYYY
Ай бұрын
@@oldfrend I know. That’s just crazy. I’m usually behind most umpires decisions. Situations like this I can’t agree with.
@chawk678
4 ай бұрын
If MLB retroactively took away perfect games when a dp occurred resulting in only 3 batters that inning, then Galaragga MUST get credit for one.
@dtc8714
4 ай бұрын
Do you understand the difference between a perfect game and a no-hitter?
@LemonStir
4 ай бұрын
@@dtc8714 He definitely does not know the difference LOL
@jodytollefson7187
4 ай бұрын
Umpires seen to think they are the most important thing on the field and their not and I really can't believe that some of these umps don't get clubbed by a bat.
@arizonawrestlinginterviews1040
3 ай бұрын
Not one suspension for Angel Hernandez, but he has the nerve to sue MLB for racial discrimination
@chadrupert4456
3 ай бұрын
The blown call on the Gallaraga play is inexcusable. It wasn’t even close! 4:37
@nickgroll7292
4 ай бұрын
Jim Joyce was only prohibited from umpiring a game with Galarraga to prevent the appearance of impropriety, since the two of them had a business interest with their book
@pricetatum282
4 ай бұрын
The fact this video is only five minutes proves just how good of a union the umpires unfortunately have.
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
But it does show that eventually you do you get punished.
@pricetatum282
4 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t really call a one game suspension out of 162 a punishment
@pattewigginton7990
4 ай бұрын
I have gone to a baseball game just to watch one umpire. Back in the 90s I went to see my cousin Tom Hallion in Atlanta. The Umpire's have many fans that no one understands.
@justina9137
4 ай бұрын
Was his ass in the jackpot that game?
@w.ryanbutler8097
Ай бұрын
There used to be a time, not too long ago, when the umpires were nameless, faceless, and just called the game. Very rarely was anyone ejected from a game. Now it's simply unwatchable, I stopped watching because of these umpires nowadays
@kevinmoore2929
3 ай бұрын
One game suspensions aren't enough. Missing one game's pay doesn't hurt them that much.
@tomthebomb557
4 ай бұрын
Everyone rightfully shits on Angel Henandez, but it was Joe West who taught him the bones about umping....West was shit, day in day out!
@johnrion3232
4 ай бұрын
a game or 2 or 5 or 10.. a season… not enough. These loser umps need to be fired for being dog water at their job.. if I do a bad job at my work I would get fired -they need to be replaced by Hitrax or something
@user-ub2iu8dh4j
3 ай бұрын
The last one on Jim Joyce is a lie, he actually umpired behind home plate the next game following the blown final out call for what should’ve been a perfect game.
@allensignaturetreeservices
4 ай бұрын
Bob Davidson was a joke of an umpire.
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
Baseball is baseball! I love this! 😂
@EndeavoursRadio
3 ай бұрын
Jim Joyce's inclusion is unfair and incorrect. He wasn't banned from umpiring Galarraga games because of the call. It was because the two of them later wrote a boko about the experience and the league didn't want the appearance of any impropriety.
@MichaelSmith-mh2km
3 ай бұрын
Bo Porter, my old college baseball teammate.
@jerryking45
3 ай бұрын
“Nose to nose with Bob Davidson”
@thommccarthy1139
3 ай бұрын
Lol the phils are always involved love it
@graysonkemp8870
3 ай бұрын
That Jim Joyce blown call is worse than Angel Hernandez’s career. That’s awful.
@visuno8354
2 ай бұрын
any umpire who baits players just so they can eject them should be suspended and fined massively
@TelemarketerTroll
4 ай бұрын
If you go to any game of any sport and you remember the officials, umpires, judges, etc... then it was not a good game.
@cracklecracklebaybay5612
4 ай бұрын
None of these suspensions are adequate. Send 'em home for a few weeks at a time, not single games. #AbolishUmpireUnionMLB
@brettsprinkle4173
4 ай бұрын
If even the batter is upset for getting called safe from being out,then you know you fucked up.
@SomeRealKnickKnacks
3 ай бұрын
So they can ban the dude from ever pumping with that guy again but can’t give him the perfect game? Seems easier imo
@thesecdef4865
3 ай бұрын
How, HOW has Angel Hernandez never been suspended?!
@user-jv7hg7nz6v
4 ай бұрын
At this point I might go just to see Angel Hernandez screw something up again
@7187case
4 ай бұрын
This is what happens when refs and umps don’t have any consequences for their behavior they need to learn that people aren’t there to see them
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
THAT WAS A VIDEO OF CONSEQUENCES 😂😂😂😂
@jonnydanger7181
3 ай бұрын
Jim Joyce banned from umping any game galaraga pitches wow.
@Mahinskerrr
4 ай бұрын
Don’t blame west on the first one. If he shoved him hard that’s one thing but you got a guy in his mid 30s screaming point blank at you spitting all over you with dip breath. Barely touched him haha
@lonnieziegler2868
4 ай бұрын
But if the player did that to Joe he would have been suspended at least 10 games
@Mahinskerrr
4 ай бұрын
@@lonnieziegler2868 difference is the umpire usually doesn’t get pissed and sprint at the player, the player always initiates the confrontation
@justina9137
4 ай бұрын
Remember when Jim Leyland blew his stack over an umpire touching his player? That's a good manager
@hutchinson54
4 ай бұрын
The Jim Joyce blown call still bothers me to this day.
@3333bongman
4 ай бұрын
I don't care for baseball (highlights are cool but games are boring for someone with severe ADHD) and it bothers me
@davidbernau8315
4 ай бұрын
If we really remember the umps names, they are not doing their job right.
@coltenley2195
4 ай бұрын
Never gonna see Angel Hernandez on these...
@johnnastrom9400
4 ай бұрын
Joe West was the baddest bad-ass of an umpire of all time. No one could take him on, not even a player like Papelbon.
@ludwigiapilosa508
4 ай бұрын
Umpires should be allowed to do whatever they want with Papelbon.
@grantharriman284
4 ай бұрын
Baseball even has soft insults. "Biggest Complainer in the Sport" wouldn't even warrant a response from pros in most sports, but here it gets the ump suspended? That's just silly.
@GregoryWeagle
3 ай бұрын
It's even worse because it's Adrian Beltre, which no one is taking seriously as a complainer much less biggest.
@hypersonicshinylucky7525
4 ай бұрын
I believe it is rare to happen to the dodgers.
@vitesse_arnhem
4 ай бұрын
Jim J0yce should have been demoted to AAA and fined at least $2,500 CDN
@dicekato
4 ай бұрын
MLB Umpires do not have a clear evaluation matrix for their job retention. We need better-quality umpires who do not just spread their authority to toss out players. Accuracy first than your emotional regulation second. Grow up MLB Umpires or they need mental health training as part of basic umpire training.
@anthonymatthews5854
4 ай бұрын
Sam Holbrook should have been banned for ljfe for that blown "outfield fly rule" bs against the Braves in the 2012 wildcard game. Yes, i know it's called the infield fly rule but that ball was nowhere near the infield.
@iamsithazagoth3728
4 ай бұрын
3:25 this is when the Astros started to get away with cheating.
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
Before the Great Battle of The Trashcan
@wurm90125
4 ай бұрын
Bob Davidson was the worst.
@UltimaKeyMaster
4 ай бұрын
Wait you mean to tell me these people can actually get punished!?
@phillipmayhall8595
3 ай бұрын
Bring on the robots! Please!
@linorful
4 ай бұрын
This video is all lies no one got suspended
@shawnd7798
4 ай бұрын
You know google is a thing, right?
@HenryP-by2ff
4 ай бұрын
Why haven’t Angel or CB been suspended indefinitely for their bullshit
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
Union, duh
@kLeo20Toes
Ай бұрын
0:46 = wwe
@nualajennings365
4 ай бұрын
Bad umpires are epidemic
@LemonStir
4 ай бұрын
Your English is an epidemic.
@TonyXLXL
4 ай бұрын
In no other sport are the officials so out of shape and so thin-skinned.
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
Well I mean, their trunk gets bigger every time they squat 😂
@wolfgangbusenitz1922
4 ай бұрын
No angel Hernandez shocking
@kylemccrane8228
3 ай бұрын
Immediately!
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
2 ай бұрын
Guy was safe. You whining Tigers fans need to let it go.
@mrfofff
4 ай бұрын
I stopped watch all sports because of refs,
@MXSHYYYY
4 ай бұрын
Then you’re soft
@user-li7mk1qo1k
4 ай бұрын
glad some things are right]
@geraldrau8164
4 ай бұрын
And your umpires are too old too owl. Shape to be doing this job. You say young guys are young. People can't do this job because they don't have a experience. I'm good, I'll have to just spare something. Then you need to get a camera and computer and put the old far substairs where they belong.
@GenX-Rising
3 ай бұрын
I really thought this was gonna be all Angel Hernandez... he's a gimmick like Mr. Magoo or Dumb and Dumber
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