What the Brits were working on was the P-13 in .276 Enfield. It was a large cartridge, thus the bulge of the magazine. With the onset of WW1 it was deemed a bad idea to change calibers, so this rifle was reworked to accept the .303 cartridge and became the P-14. Later on it was reworked again to be a 30-06 & became the M1917.
@jurajokasa834
2 жыл бұрын
nope bulged magazine area cuz 303 had rum 276 was semi rim
@merlemorrison482
2 жыл бұрын
@@jurajokasa834 nope, .276 was a much larger cartridge. Take a look at a P13
@lucaslaino7292
3 жыл бұрын
I saw it on the lost battalion. A tv movie based on the argonne battle. I loved the rifle . The m1903 was outstanding but this one was gorgeous and exotic.
@grenmoyo3968
7 жыл бұрын
this gun was in more american hands than the 03. the 1917 is our real world war one gun.
@geezerp1982
5 жыл бұрын
designed by brits ! UKGB UKGB UKGB UKGB
@calvinhandley2373
4 жыл бұрын
geezerp1982 designed by Paul Mauser, slightly redesigned by the Brits.
@johncarl5505
3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinhandley2373 designed by Johann Dreyse, redesigned by Mauser. Who honestly gives a shit. Saying every modern bolt action is a Mauser is like saying every modern auto pistol is a Browning, every revolver is a Colt, every pump shotgun is a Winchester. We could say the AK is an inverted Garand. Everyone copies from each other, that doesn't change the fact that for example, the Remington 700. It is a rifle of its own, its not a Mauser. Fuck all these Mauser fanboys.
@mikeycraig8970
3 жыл бұрын
@@johncarl5505 Webley revolvers predate colts.
@johncarl5505
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeycraig8970 there were even older revolvers, the examples i gave were the basis for most modern guns now.
@jmfa57
8 жыл бұрын
My dad was issued one of these in WWII, but also at some point was issued a Springfield 1903. He felt the Model 1917 was quite a serviceable rifle but he liked the 1903 Springfield the best. Great video!
@johngalt6838
Жыл бұрын
I'd have wanted a Garand for that one.
@Hylanvahr
12 жыл бұрын
This video alone should prove you're more than worthy to have your own weekly show on the History Channel. You're an excellent well spoken professional host with a deep knowledge of the history and mechanics of firearms. Thank you for this very engaging history lesson and demonstration of these legendary rifles.
@garybryant7274
8 жыл бұрын
When MacArthur got back to the Philippines in WW II, the 03's that the guerillas had were out of service due to bent front sights. the 1917's were still good to go.
@keithmilbradt8292
6 жыл бұрын
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@dedzerg
11 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how accurate these old bolt guns are. I just snagged an M1903A3 yesterday which is in beautiful condition. I know I need an M1917 to add to my U.S. military Rifle collection but they seem to be harder to find!
@MrBandholm
7 жыл бұрын
The model 1917 is (I believe) the only boltaction rifle still in service in a Western military unit (the Danish Sirius sledge patrol), and will continue to be in service for many years to come.
@Garhunt05
5 жыл бұрын
@Starscream_xxx he said "western" nagants are still used in the East.
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044
7 ай бұрын
More reliable in the deep cold
@shaundoodles
12 жыл бұрын
First elk was taken with a Eddystone. I love that gun!
@8aleph
5 жыл бұрын
The 2 groove barrels are surprisingly accurate , I once owned a 03 with a 2 groove that would print a 1" or less group at 100 meters. Unfortunately I ran into a financial difficulty and that rifle was sold
@173rdUSmilitary
10 жыл бұрын
Man just fell in love with this rifle..
@txstang84
9 жыл бұрын
If you like milsurps, and haven't bought one yet, look harder...they're available for a decent price still...but steadily thinning in stock. They shoot pretty well-I love my '18 Eddystone.
@orangejoe5769
9 жыл бұрын
txstang84 How much do you think one of these rifles are in ok-good condition?
@txstang84
9 жыл бұрын
Ehh, varies on the market and the seller's determination of condition...and your bargaining skills. For a rifle in good condition with a decent barrel, good stock and finish, I'd expect to pay about $450-600. If all it's parts are single mfr, the seller can usually fetch a higher premium. If you want to get an idea of the pricing, get on gunbroker.com and search for 1917, M1917, or enfield 1917...
@orangejoe5769
9 жыл бұрын
txstang84 I have seen them at gun shows in good condition for 300-350. Is that a good deal? I would think so.
@txstang84
9 жыл бұрын
Orange Joe Define good condition? I guess the gun shows I've frequented are a bunch of thieves (this would not surprise me). If you've seen a complete and serviceable 1917 for $300-350, then jump on it.
@max4951
9 жыл бұрын
A 1917 Enfield (Winchester mfd) was my first gun purchase. Bought in April 1961 for the then high price of $50.00 (I didn't know then that I could have purchased one by mail for less than 20 bucks in the cosmoline). Mine had already been sporterised with the addition of an L.4 Weaver scope, turned barrel, sight ears milled, stock cut and refinished, and a WW2 sniper pad installed. It shot like a dream, and still does after all these years. It's taken more deer and coyotes over the years than I can remember, and spends a lot of time on my truck gun rack when I check my cattle. It's my workhorse rifle and no more wear than it shows I know it will outlast me. I really don't think you can wear out or tear up a 1917 in 2 or 3 lifetimes if you just keep it oiled and do minimal maintenance.
@pinz2022
9 жыл бұрын
max4951 Oh, right. 1961. You could still order firearms through the mail. If I recall from the history books the "Mail Order Murder Rifles" were a big issue for GCA 68. I guess we should feel lucky you didn't shoot any presidents with yours. Hee! Hee!
@max4951
9 жыл бұрын
pinz2022 Actually my 1917 was at my home in Dallas on 11/22/63. Within 2 hours after the Kennedy assassination there were rumors that Dallas was about to be put under Martial Law, and all guns confiscated. As doubtful as that seemed, I deciding to err on the side of caution. I took my 1917, my Winchester Mod 1911, and my Winchester Mod.1890 (all the guns I had in town at the time), wrapped them up in bulky padding and drove them to my family's farm in Oklahoma that night. There was an awful lot of paranoia and rumor going on at the time, and it was nice to get out of town. To this day when I handle any one of those 3 guns I'm taken back to that day and the sights, sounds and even the smells of the day I "smuggled" my guns and ammo back to Oklahoma.
@pinz2022
9 жыл бұрын
max4951 Now there's a scene that should have been in a movie! In another clip on KZitem, the narrator states that the reason there are so seemingly few intact M1917s left is that the vast majority were "sporterized" like yours. Cheap surplus, long Mauser action, popular caliber...it lent itself well to customization and wildcatting. The "sporterized Enfield"s were almost all M1917s and dominated the early twentieth century as the big game rifle for the Common Man. Indeed, when Johnny came marching home from France in 1918 a whole bunch of veterans simply cut back the stocks on their rifles and used them for deer.
@pinz2022
9 жыл бұрын
max4951 Other writers have stated that's where the Left began to go mad. One Kennedy killed by a card-carrying communist, another killed by a Palestinian (who stated he did it because his victim was too pro-Israel).
@geezerp1982
5 жыл бұрын
@@pinz2022 in the UK we could order guns through the mail right up until 1997 !!!
@Jay-Bass
12 жыл бұрын
Excellent to see a nice vintage military bolt gun being featured. Love the Modern stuff and am VERY grateful you concentrate on it, but I'm more than happy to see an older firearm every so often. Thanks for the awesome vids!
@rexfrommn3316
7 жыл бұрын
Here are some thoughts about the Model 1917 Enfield rifle. The U.S. should have just kept making these rifles cranking out a million rifles annually for many years during the 1920's and 1930's. It would have been very cheap to keep one or all of the production lines at Remington, Eddystone, and Winchester busy for a period of a decade after World War One or longer making the Model 1917 Enfield rifle. Perhaps a slightly shorter or revised version for easier mass production weighing slightly less could have been devised while still giving accurate fire out to 500 yards but optimized for 300 yards where most modern infantry combat occurs. The reason for this is a cheap national insurance policy. The United States Army having ten million or even 15 million plus of these rifles stored in cosmoline canisters in depots would have given us a big advantage for mobilization. These rifles could have lasted for 50 years or longer. If or when another future war came or several wars, these rifles could have immediately provided a weapon for all of our soldiers in the National Guard or Reserves, active duty Army, and several Allied countries too. These bolt action rifles would have been completely adequate for any future land wars, if augmented by adequate numbers of Browning Automatic rifles per squad/platoon. Every Army infantry company headquarters unit will always have several heavier water-cooled or air-cooled machine guns. These 1917 Enfield rifles could have allowed to us to mobilize, train, and fight a land war for a couple years on the cheap. We could have easily fought World War 2 successfully with lots of Model 1917 Enfield rifles assuming we had enough light automatic weapons per squad and several more automatic weapons per platoon in every rifle company. The Model 1917 Enfield rifle was tough, reliable, accurate, and can lay down a respectable rate of fire for suppression fire had a six round ammo clip been made for it. Most conscript soldiers could have easily shot 18 rounds per minute with such six round ammo clips. Rifle grenades are also easily fired from the Model 1917 Enfield rifle. So the lesson from history is to always keep making some of your proven old weapons for a period of time after a war is over in production while also refurbishing any and all older weapons that you have. We just never know when the next conflict will come around. At least you can train on the ample supplies of adequate proven older weapons during an emergency while more modern ones are being devised or manufactured for augmentation. A scale of economy for mass mobilization meant that the M1917 Enfield rifle could have been made by the tens of millions in the United States at a minimal unit cost per rifle.
@MinhVu-in9iz
4 жыл бұрын
Rex fromMN who makes the best m1917??
@CaptainAhorn
4 жыл бұрын
The M1917 happens to be my favorite bolt gun. However, I think your points are in error. First, politically speaking no one was in a position to continue producing weapons they had no immediate need for, even us. Second, spending that kind of money would likely have required foregoing semi-auto development work on the Garand and a lot of other useful things that happened between the wars. Third, there were technical lessons from WWI which, while not fully digested in time for WWII, were definitely under development, namely automatic weapons and intermediate cartridges. Fourth, the same argument could be made about the M1- that it was still good enough and we could’ve produced millions more just to stick in cans. But it was rather apparent that the M1 was already obsolescent like the M1917 was obsolescent.
@shockwave6213
3 жыл бұрын
@@MinhVu-in9iz Technically speaking, Winchester supposedly made the best ones, as they were the only manufacturer considered for making sniper rifle prototypes out of. British P14s made by Winchester were turned into sniper rifles. Personally, I think its just company name bias. I would expect very similar quality from the 3 factories making them.
@audie1966
Жыл бұрын
@@shockwave6213 My Enfield is the Winchester make of 1917. My longest shot was at a 4x8 plywood panel at 1200 yards. I was shooting alongside my buddy who had a Barret Light 50. We both hit decently and had to drive quads out to check the target. The WIN1917 managed to perform amazingly for me for years. I have retired it as it is completely original though I replaced the stock with an original NOS stock due to it having been painted white when I got it in the 1970s.
@NormanMatchem
9 жыл бұрын
Actually the 'battle sight' for the M1917 is set for something like 400m. Not for closer 100m ranges. Perhaps they had that 'belt buckle' idea. Aim for the belt buckle with the sights set for 400m, and you'll get center mass at close range.
@chriskelly509
5 жыл бұрын
My battle sight is dead on point of aim at 100 yards...
@GeorgiaBoy1961
5 жыл бұрын
When smokeless powder military service rifles became popular and widespread in the 1890s and early 1900s, the new spitzer (pointed) bullets shot so flat and had such long range in comparison to the older cartridges that militaries assumed that warfare would henceforth take place at extended ranges out past 500 Weapons designers believed that would be the typical distance for combat. That's why soldiers using it would have aimed at the beltline of enemy soldiers, as you note.
@guitarman123456789
11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I've been using my grandpa's M1917 for my main deer rifle for years now. The barrel is stamped 3-18 (manufactured March, 1918) and it is still a tack-driver. Being a history fanatic, I'm sorry to say it was sporterized back in the 1950's. However, for a practical and accurate firearm, it holds its own with any that I own or have had the pleasure to shoot. The longest kill on a deer with this rifle was made at around 340 yards with a VERY old Weaver 2X scope and WINDY!
@justinriley8651
8 жыл бұрын
my grandfather was the only one in his company issued a p14 and went on to shoot a 178 out of 200 with it. i would love to at least shoot one my gpa loved it! he had a 03 that i learned to shoot on .
@Gomethog
11 жыл бұрын
I just picked up one of these rifles and I'm glad I started my research on it here. Great video, great work.
@mr.p2544
7 жыл бұрын
i used to think York used this too. He actually managed to switch out for the 1903 springfield which he preferred.
@user-ho4nw5sf3w
6 ай бұрын
I was 15 in 1965 when I bought mine. It won both my respect and affection. So much so that it is the only bolt action high powered rifle that I own.
@calvinhandley2373
4 жыл бұрын
The "P17" designation was used by the Brits in WWII to distinguish their lend-lease M1917 from their P14 rifles, which were both used by their home guard in large numbers. M1917s were often painted red to identify them since they used different ammo. The P17 designation continued to be used by post-war surplus distributors who imported them back in to the US.
@stever4181
3 жыл бұрын
I shot 2 white tail deer with my Eddystone November 1918 rifle. The second deer was at 100+ yards and the weight of the deer was about 50 pounds. (Yes I shot Bambi) Very accurate wonderfull rifle.
@PilgrimPrepper
12 жыл бұрын
The MAC has just 'out historied' the History Channel!!! I'm serious, you did a superlative job on this vid Bro.
@panzerabwerkanone
10 жыл бұрын
I shoot my 1917 more than my 1903A3. It shoots better with less felt recoil.
@james52054
6 жыл бұрын
panzerabwerkanone In my opinion the aperture sights work much better on the 1917 then the 1903A3, I personally think the 1917 was ahead of its time I'd definitely want an aperture sight Rifle than the regular 1903 Springfield
@jurajokasa834
5 жыл бұрын
@@james52054 M1917 was robust as MAC says and springfield was just foolish almost exact copy of mauser 98
@brianharris4275
5 жыл бұрын
Strongest action made! You can make magnums out of 1917.Dont try it on Springfield it's not as strong.I load my Enfield with 81 grains 180 grain bulletin 300 mag .So it's a 300 mag + P.
@brianharris4275
5 жыл бұрын
81 grains of 4831 180 grain bullet 300 mag + P Also they make a 240 grain bullet for these.Great rifle great cartridge. Chris Kyle favorite cartridge which he made most kills with.300 win mag still King after all these years and you can buy ammo anywhere!. Cloward,McMutry sound familiar.
@timbrwolf1121
4 жыл бұрын
@@brianharris4275 What kind of stats do you get from that load? Sounds like it rips
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy them, thanks for watching.
@tigerstripe.s.9039
5 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a really nice all original Winchester make of June 1918... $800! But I felt that was a fair price, they are not going down in value only up. Pick one up while you still can! excellent rifles.
@MinhVu-in9iz
4 жыл бұрын
tigerstripe .S. How do you like it? Any updates?? I’m thinking of getting one but not sure what manufacturer to go with??
@roentgen571
12 жыл бұрын
I have a Yugo Mauser, a Mosin-Nagant, and an Enfield No. 4... Need to get one of these and a 1903 for the collection!
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@macharleys72 Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the vid.
@doa_824
4 жыл бұрын
I love bolt action rifles they work so perfectly and sound so smooth and are very very accurate more accurate than an assault rifle for sure
@jake86chev
9 жыл бұрын
Great vid Mac! I've been following your channel since the beginning. Im a huge fan of historical US service rifles and I'm happy to see a good video on the 1917. Its a great compliment to your Garand.
@davidfromkyushu6870
9 жыл бұрын
That rifle also saw action in WWII during the Battle of Bataan and the 1941-42 Philippine Campaign.
@Hawk60ce
10 жыл бұрын
Picked one up today. Its an Eddystone with from from I can tell the original barrel (or at least original to the period). Marked 11-18 and has 5 groove LH twist. Shiny bore but needs a good cleaning. Everything is stamped with an 'E', to include the band that hold the stock together. The stock is marked with an 'R' and The bayonet is marked 'W'. I have about $500 into it so I figured that was a good deal.
@Suebian53
3 жыл бұрын
Just shot my M1917 with original barrel out to 1000 yards consistently. They're amazing rifles.
@ganelle11
11 жыл бұрын
I was blessed to get an original for free a good friend was cleaning his dads garage out and it was in a barrel all rusted and dirty he gave it too me i took it home and got the specs on it and disassembled it cleaned it up and fired 50rds thru it with no problem at a 150yds 2in groups but you enlightened me with the info you just gave thanks
@Thestargazer56
12 жыл бұрын
I love my Eddystone. My grandfather gave it to me in 1972. We had many great times shooting and reloading. I hope to pass it and those values to my grandson!
@trbig67
4 жыл бұрын
I've had my 1917 Enfield for @ 30 years now. Bought it from a buddy's pawn shop for $100. I bought it to plink with using cheap surplus ammo, but after finding out how accurate it was, I took the sights off of it and took it to a gunsmith to mill it flat and drill/tap it for a scope mount. The steel is so hard, he said he went through 3 titanium bits to drill the 4 holes. Over the years, I've sportarized it up with a handmade custom stock, and I had the front of the barrel cut back behind the groove where the front sight was and re knurled the end. It tightened my groups up to sub minute MOA at 100 yds. When sighted at 200 yds, it is 4" high at 50 yds, 2" high at 100, and 4" low at 300 yds. so I can put the crosshairs on anything between those ranges and bring home meat. Mine likes a 165gr bullet and I can load it to 2990 FPS and it is fine, but if I push any bulllet in it over 3k FPS, it starts slinging them a bit. I have shot some REALLY hot, overloaded ammo in this thing before where it was actually blasting about half of the primers out of the cases. The 1917 handled it like nothing. A buddy had a remington and fired one of these and it tore his gun up... broke the extractors on the bolt off. This has been my go-to hunting rifle for most of my life and no modern rifle has impressed me enough to replace it.
@schlc77
2 жыл бұрын
The Mauser Bolt action was designed by Wilhelm Mauser, the 1917 action is based off of the action designed by James Paris Lee. His actions would always cock the firing pin at the end of the forward stroke of the bolt so it wasn't just a British thing.
@thewolfhunter
2 жыл бұрын
I have a Eddystone..Barrel marked R 12-17. No re-import marks.Its in very good condition.
@JnJTrueOutdoorAdventures
8 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the video on the 1917 and the history of it. I just got back from my local gun shop this afternoon after putting a 1917 Eddystone 30-06 in layaway. It is all original, except sling, and the only thing that I can tell is missing is the front barrel band split sling swivel. I believe this one has a 5 grove barrel, didn't have a my barrel light to see very well but the rifling look very good and clean. It is a original blue, some wore, and not the parkerized versions that I have heard about. The stock is in very good condition, yes it has some marks (scratches) and I did notice that the top handguard had a crack but someone did a good job of repairing it using pins. I count myself lucky cause I got the rifle for $400 tax and all. This will go good with my old war rifle collection. I have a Russian Mosin Nagant, 8x57 K98 Mauser, 7x57 Bruno VZ24 Mauser, 303 No. 4 MK1, a 7.7 Arisaka 99 (bring back) and a 7.35 Italian Carcano. I have all the bayonets for these rifles except for the VZ24 and the Carcano. Now I will have to find one for the 1917!! Again thanks for the video and keep up with all the good videos on your channel.
@craigmason9893
2 жыл бұрын
I paid 800 for mine
@alaincharlesleroy87
5 жыл бұрын
The model 1917 was in service in a french army, 1943 to 1963. And specialy in Vietnam war, 1945 to 1954. And in Algeria war, 1954 to 1962.
@thedude1-wn2ij
5 ай бұрын
This was a British response to the late 19th century Mauser, clip loaded Spitzer bullets carried by the Boers! The British idea of a .276 round was excellent in concept but the round was hot, overheating and excessive blast. In the end it was cancelled, but the Mauser rifle P13 was then made in the US as the War was touching our nose by then. My P14 is phenomenally accurate and built for war and to last. Supremely accurate too 🏆
@jason60chev
9 жыл бұрын
Fired my 1919 dated WInchester M1917 at Camp Perry in 2010. It fired very well. In the rapid fire string, the brim of my campaign hat kept bumping the rear sight leaf on recoil. Probably should have just used the peep for 200 yards. ANyway....good video and a great rifle.
@RobertBrumley60
10 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful rifle. Great collector item. Would love to have one.
@meatmissilef111
12 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I have a Remington Model 30 Express, it is a commercial variant of the m1917. It is basically the same thing, except peep sights, a different stock, and a shorter barrel. It kicks like a mule due to the light weight.
@lthbxfrostyinfidel
9 жыл бұрын
I'm hopefully picking one up here soon. Nice video as always.
@wilp8074
Жыл бұрын
The 1917 is a real joy to shoot. It's the perfect battlefield bolt action weapon.
@johnwayne7476
4 жыл бұрын
This rifle was more easily used by those who never fired a shot before enlistment. The 03 with original sight set up is most generally are referenced as being more accurate in the hands of a marksman. The tolerance is not as tight in 1917 . Better for battle but not for accuracy. The wartime cartridge 3006 was loaded to near mag levels as well.
@SauceCaptain
11 жыл бұрын
I would actually rather have one of these over a m1903. Reason being is that this gun was actually issued in greater numbers during WWI than the m1903, then saw action during the first days of WWII, so it has real history as being a main US army combat rifle. It shoots my favorite rifle round the 30-06, and because people don't know about them, and that they were never officially adopted as the main US battle rifle, you can get one for less than half the price of a m1903.
@boxdoutfoot
12 жыл бұрын
Love my Swedish Mauser (M96), the 6.5x55 is an awesome round for sure! Practically any rifle with that Mauser action is going to be smooth, accurate and an overall amazing shooter!
@craigpennington1251
3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding rifle. A tack driver and they should still be made today. Had 3 and the Eddystone make was the best. Quality overall. Superbly built.
@Bronzedraken
6 жыл бұрын
The Mauser 96 (example: The swedish Mauser) System work as clock on close like the Lee-Enfield.
@xFinneasx
3 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit late to the party but I just scored one of these yesterday in Upstate NY uncut and in great condition
@MrParallaxbill
11 жыл бұрын
I have 3 1917s, a Winchester with a Winchester barrel dated 4-18 in excellent post WWI rebuilt condition, an Eddystone with an Eddystone 8-18 dated barrel with Canadian property marks and originsl blued finish. And finally another Eddystone built "Flaig Ace" custom sporter in 264 Winchester Magnum that is an absolute tack driver. My original Eddystone holds a bolt action shooting record at our local club in which I shot four 8X13" steel plates down at 200 yards in 9.2 seconds.
@jcarry5214
6 жыл бұрын
I have one of these things, I love it. Mine got stripped down for hunting and the barrel's shortened. It handles quick as hell but the action and barrel are so overbuilt it still bucks pretty light. Very accurate despite being short and shot out, helped a lot by the HUGE field of view with that peep in front of the short butt. Weird low comb though. I recommend it highly, very fun and different and it's damn near indestructible.
@tballstaedt7807
3 жыл бұрын
I had one of these in the 1980s. An Eddystone, unchopped. I really miss it.
@Militaryarmschannel
3 жыл бұрын
They are a bit different and fun to shoot. I'm sorry you don't have yours anymore.
@tballstaedt7807
3 жыл бұрын
@@Militaryarmschannel I have an interesting story. I bought the old Eddystone at a gun show in salt lake 1985. The seller said, " it's missing a handguard retainer". In its place was a wide rubber band. We settle on a price of $100 even. It was very clean. So for about a month I searched for this missing part with absolutely no luck. One day while riding my bicycle though the neighborhood. In a junk pile I spotted a rusty rifle barrel blown up like a banana peel. In stroke of sheer providence, it was what was left of a P17 Enfield. And still clinging to this rusty action and split in half barrel was a slightly patina'd handguard retainer! I was one happy dude.
@NESurvivalPrep
12 жыл бұрын
I have an Eddystone model of 1917. It's 30-06 and has a steel butt-plate. Kicks like a pissed off mule.
@themedhunter
Жыл бұрын
That recoil looks a lot less robust than the 1903, curious to get people's thoughts. Great video!
@kenstirling5348
3 жыл бұрын
It’s very impressive how well these old girls shoot. You just shot a 1 MOA group with iron sights and surplus ammo. People now are tickled to have a brand new rifle that shoots 1 MOA with quality hunting or match ammo. These old guns just seem like they disprove everything the internet says you need, no free floated barrel and no high power optic. Just a gun made to shoot.
@10rdsrpd
11 жыл бұрын
The UK bought several hundred thousand in 30-06 for use by the Home Guard. A red stripe was painted around the stock to avoid confusion with the similar P14 and to prevent the accidental loading of .303.
@kenibnanak5554
7 жыл бұрын
With practice a shooter can learn to work the bolt of a 1917 without taking the rifle off his/her shoulder. That allows maintaining a sight picture and tracking a running target while you cycle the action.
@luisandrewmiranda4207
6 ай бұрын
2012 I was just a 3rd year highschool in the Philippines 🇵🇭 Time goes by fast wow
@gvicvic569
7 жыл бұрын
Best evaluation out of the popular gun channels. thanks
@Ni999
4 жыл бұрын
We didn't just rechamber the P14. Britain paid over $20 million for tooling and ended up not needing it. We bought it back for less than half price. C&Rsenal has a video explaining the details.
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@will1174 A lot of people don't know about the M1917. Most people think the 1903 Springfield was our primary fighting rifle during WWI, when it wasn't. The M1917 was the most used rifle by US forces during the war. It's a great old rifle, one that I prefer over the 1903.
@GunnyZneedsbeer
12 жыл бұрын
Excellent review of my first love and rifle. This is where my love of firearms started at a very young age. Thank you for getting the record strait about Sgt. York. I must have explained his use of the Model 1917 in "The Great War" a hundred times. Still have my Marines question my facts. I wish they to would learn a bit of our history. Thank you so much. Semper Fidelas Gunny Z.
@rogermcgee1
12 жыл бұрын
Love the MAC Channel. A true firearms enthusiast's home.
@jeffryheintz9405
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1917 Eddystone, Barrel marked 10/18. I love it, Great rifle.
@cravinbob
7 жыл бұрын
This is the action of Remington Model 30 Express. I have my grandfather's. He later told me he purchased it new in 1929. It came with Lyman peep sight which I had to remove due to the front bead was gone off the blade. Then I had a Smith drill and tap for screws to accept scope mounts. It has been my main deer and elk rifle for years. I killed my elk last year with the rifle. Prior to the hunt I sandbagged fired it at a target 75 yards and aimed for center. 3 rounds made a group that a quarter (coin) will completely cover and were 1 1/2 " high of but dead on center. This would place the 30.06 round dead center at 200 yards, a common sight-in for Colorado hunters. I am now in my 60's and started using this rifle in the 1970's. Grandpa taught me two important lessons: 1] Once you pull the trigger you cannot bring that bullet back. 2] Next time you kill a rattlesnake Butch, don't leave it on the front step for grandpa to find!
@zacharytomes5202
7 жыл бұрын
cravinbob Yep. Remington liked the p17 a lot, so if im not mistaken they used aspects in a ton of rifles (I mean who can deny using the free tooling the government gave you)
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
Thanks, brother. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@foughtwolf
11 жыл бұрын
For the better I suspect. Restoring a Sporter is a labor of love and will usually run you more than finding an intact original.
@mauricelone2266
Ай бұрын
303 can be used to 1000 plus yards. My brother in law had a enfield smle graded out to 2000 yards. Don`t think you could see anybody at that range. In Afgahnistan American troops where pinned down by tribesmsn using enfields, not only did they take casualties but 5.56 they had couldn`t fire the distance that they where getting engaged from.
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@HypnologicQualm I agree, they inspire confidence. It's hard to describe how they feel and shoot, but they are amazing weapons. I wouldn't feel poorly armed with one in a SHTF situation.
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@husky394xp I'm glad you found the channel. Be sure to spread the word!
@aaronjones2117
11 жыл бұрын
My great granddad had one of these. My grandfather tried to get him a Remington 740 for his 70th birthday (1969), and he pointed to his m1917 and said, "If that was good enough to kill heinies in the Argonne, than it's good enough for deer in Iowa."
@DagaYute
12 жыл бұрын
What's quite interesting is that pre-1898 Mausers were designed to be cock-on-closing. Swedish Mausers for example are cock-on-closing - quite an interesting feeling when using one if you are used to more modern Mauser designs. Makes for quite a smooth bolt manipulation. I believe the excellent sights on the m1917 reflect the emphasis on individual marksmanship that Americans value - it is an emphasis to be proud of.
@demoncleaner80
12 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have at least two of every battle rifle from WW1 and WW2. I just started my first... got a Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine and am currently refinishing the stock (it was previously refinished and in bad shape) Great video!
@F4Wildcat
12 жыл бұрын
Dear video uploader I congratulate you on your excellent gun maintance! I can see just by this video that you took care of that M1917!
@ericpettyfishing
4 жыл бұрын
Mine is a eddystone and has a very low model number. I love it
@ShortGuy1792
11 жыл бұрын
When my grandpa got his Enfield he sporterized it. New stock, new barrel, cut the bolt handle off and welded it on at a different angle, lots of that kinda stuff. It's still a good rifle despite the historical value being removed.
@MrIceBrick
8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Rifle! and at the price, I would pay that and then some for an old rifle with history and accuracy. Gotta Love the Mauser action.
@F4Wildcat
12 жыл бұрын
i became the proud owner of a remington M1917 from 1918. When a mauser fanboy says it is a "bastards" rifle, i dare to see how accurate his K98 is against my M1917:)
@muffmuff64
12 жыл бұрын
I love my M1917. It was originally my grandpa's, he got 2 of them, sporterized 1, from his stepdad who served in WW1 and later the American Legion when the AL was getting rid of them to replace with M1's. I told him that I would clean the original up for him, I ended up refinishing the entire stock and rebluing the metal. The bore was dark as night, too; not anymore. I showed him the end result, and he liked it so much he passed it down to me. I finally shot it, thing still drives tacks.
@chrisloUSA
12 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on the M1903 soon, great video BTW.
@LukeColt
12 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always. I had the british version of that rifle in .303 British (I think we called it a P14) and it was an amazing target gun dispite the lack of windage on the sight. Obviously the old kentucky windage was the only way to deal with it, but it led me to a few champs so very happy. Great design and quality piece. Thanks for the great job on the reseach
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@harpoclarx I have my eye out for a P14 (yes, that's the correct nomenclature). The Patten 14 rifle would be a great addition to the bolt gun family. It's getting harder and harder to find .303 Brit these days though. I remember when it was dirt cheap and everywhere (1990's). I wish I had stocked more of it.
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@AKJeeper Yup, that's the problem... so many were chopped up and sporterized that it's hard to find a good quality military configuration rifle these days. A really nice example will cost you a pretty penny too.
@ProdigalSon2149
12 жыл бұрын
S&K has one that mounts to the rear sight base. I do not believe that you have to make any permanent modifications (drilling, tapping, etc.) They make one either for proprietary rings or Weaver rings.
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@TheSnow77 No, I don't own any airsoft rifles. I'm surprised someone hasn't setup manufacturing for the L85 here in the US. They've done it for the AUG and Tavor (working on it now). Another bullpup I would love to own is the French FAMAS F1 or F2.
@GIBSON-KNIVES
12 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing
@markjordan348
2 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken Sergeant York preferred the 1917 over the 1903 Springfield.
@kjsh987
12 жыл бұрын
i love the ww| and ww2 enfield rifles.they are so elegant.well mostly of them.nice vid, i loved the ones with the makarov and the beretta.
@WhatHavU
12 жыл бұрын
Again,,, I love how informative ur videos r.. thanks, as always..
@irvinslagter8298
8 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough several years ago to pick up a really nice four digit Winchester 1917. The bad part, I haven't gotten around to shooting it yet. :( This video makes me want to get that done. Very interesting video. Thanks for posting it.
@aaronm969
11 жыл бұрын
A lot of these rifles were sent to the UK during WWII as well. They were issued to the Home Guard with red bands around the handguards. This was to signify that the rifle was chambered for rimless ammo.
@Militaryarmschannel
12 жыл бұрын
@Thegunnut1 I love old military rifles and handguns. I plan to do several more videos this year on older military weapons, both handguns and rifles.
@muffmuff64
12 жыл бұрын
After watching the video, I actually learned that my rifle actually saw use in WW2 since it was rebarreled with the right hand grooves. Even more history to it!
@AmericanArmsChannel
12 жыл бұрын
Very nice rifle! 400$!? Wow, here in NY no dealer will give up a 1917 for less than $675! And they will literaly have 10 of them! i have seen sellers trying to get over a grand out of service grade 1917's, 1903's ,M1's and M1 Carbines at our big gun show, crazy money!.... Loved the vid! Keep it up! -ultimate
@URBANAMERICANTAC
12 жыл бұрын
simply amazing review.
@reeseman67
12 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you let it be known that the Model 1917 was MORE prolific than the 1903 Springfield. This, along with the SMLE, are my favorite WWI rifles, that REAR peep is MUCH easier to connect with from close to 200-300 yard's vs. the 1903's 'target sights'..... BEAUTIFUL RIFLE!! Now I need a M1917.... DANGIT STURMGEWEHRE, just when I thought I had all the weapon's (w/the SGL 31 recently joining it's SGL 21 sibling in my collection) I could dream of/HOLD IN A SAFE...you make another vid, sheesh!
@Stoopidslow
12 жыл бұрын
very cool review, its nice being able to learn about modern weapons, and those that defined modern weapons, all in one place. keep it up mac.
@richardpowell1664
11 жыл бұрын
I just traded for a Winchester 1917. It is all original with a barrel dated 9-18 still blued not reworked with parkerize. The orginal stock is in pretty bad shape. Lots of battle scars & it appears to have dried out over the years & then cracked from recoil. All of the metal is in excellant condition. I think I can salvage the stock with a lot of work. I hope the 5 grove shoots as good as ur 2 groove Johnson barrel. Great video.
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