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@valcq
Жыл бұрын
no
@CampCampFanMade
Жыл бұрын
@@vermskiL
@Redlion1900
Жыл бұрын
@@vermskicounter
@SquareBlock5
Жыл бұрын
@@vermskiyou’re not slick😭😭😭
@sain-ox-so-cool-23
Жыл бұрын
😎👍
@drock7310
Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but I find the interiors of SpongeBob buildings so relaxing. SpongeBob’s house, Squidward’s house, Krusty Krab, BarginMart. Watching these shows on a Sunday evening brings back so much nostalgia!
@GrilledMormons
Жыл бұрын
This is one of the reasons i enjoy the older point and click SpongeBob pc games that came out in the early 2000’s, the environments were just hand drawn images, sometimes the ones straight from the show, so being able to walk around and explore that especially now is extremely satisfying in a similar way
@logancracraftgaming7124
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW!
@loganoniedwards2400
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW! LET'S DANCE ON ITS GRAVE!
@AdamantWind2071
Жыл бұрын
@@loganoniedwards2400Lifeless bot lol
@beanoptodon
Жыл бұрын
@@loganoniedwards2400bro calm tf down
@SparklingWithNiGHTS-yv5fe
Жыл бұрын
Well if you ignore the massive faces,the animation of the modern seasons is sure really strong and full of life for modern tv animation standards.
@sourlab
Жыл бұрын
I think it just doesn't fit spongebob
@shka6262
Жыл бұрын
it may be full of life, but in disgusting way.
@themountaindude3546
Жыл бұрын
That's the thing, for modern TV standards
@Sleepy_Cabbage
Жыл бұрын
The issue is it's lack of restraint, it's like they throwing weird face after weird face at you, hoping atleast one will chirp out a chuckle
@kootunesscrewy
Жыл бұрын
I don't care what people say, but it's still beautiful. Not in the Space Goofs (Season 2) levels, but it's still wonderful.
@FunnyStarRunner
Жыл бұрын
SpongeBob's character being changed from more of a nerd to a baby is not only reflected in his design but in the music used as well. At some point the show started prioritizing using intentionally goofy music to highlight if a scene is supposed to be "wacky" instead of the earlier seasons where they continued to use the Hawaiian-style music during funny bits. I can't say though if this was changed in the later seasons because I've never watched those.
@loganoniedwards2400
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW! LET'S DANCE ON ITS GRAVE!
@o_ver2.094
Жыл бұрын
@@loganoniedwards2400 who?
@RadishShifu
Жыл бұрын
@@o_ver2.094 it's probably a bot who wants to be edgy
@TheOnlyPedroGameplays
Жыл бұрын
Me when the replies get ruined and nobody can discuss because of the bots
@GordanTheToad
Жыл бұрын
I sometimes felt bored when ever they played the same goofy music during a scene that is supposed to be witty banter. I can't put my figure on why but I think it would sometimes add a boring layer of predictability.
@usuallyangry
Жыл бұрын
The changes in animation style make you realize what the golden era's bread and butter actually was: dialogue based humor. There's a lot of physical comedy too, but if you put them next to each other, I think there's just barely more dialogue based humor.
@usuallyangry
Жыл бұрын
@@logancracraftgaming7124 What?! I'm PopcornPie, soon to be rebranded entirely because of Tumblr drama.
@lightninjohn5651
Жыл бұрын
@@usuallyangryit’s a bot, report them for spam
@low-keydrama1260
Жыл бұрын
Very true. A lot of people, (including myself) quote older SpongeBob a lot. It’s very memorable and funny
@amesstarline5482
Жыл бұрын
The ability to quote a series makes it more approachable than otherwise.
@andykishore
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, old SpongeBob knew how to prioritize dialogue over wacky silly faces.
@krinkles147
Жыл бұрын
i never thought the very expressive animation was bad, i just think it’s bad when there’s no jokes that the expressions are trying to enhance. EDIT: mom look i got 800 likes (this does not make me famous) i hate when commentors do that shit
@andykishore
Жыл бұрын
That's exactly how I feel about this.
@kingbash6466
Жыл бұрын
That's literally my thoughts. Previous seasons 1 had the expressive off-model moments as just that, "moments." It feels like nowadays, it's just feels like watching an old rubberhose cartoon just with 50% less brain cells.
@logancracraftgaming7124
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW!
@sallyparty1978
Жыл бұрын
200th
@krinkles147
Жыл бұрын
@@logancracraftgaming7124 wasn’t that like years ago. bots have no logic
@alexm.a.d892
Жыл бұрын
That comment about show becoming more gag driven was really spot on, a running gag is funny when it happens once in a while, when they start to take more main stage appearance they lose their charm and humor more. Also I love early seasons note because they have such a chill vibe and much better dialog
@elliswebster7041
Жыл бұрын
This feels like what happened to American Dad too
@Dezlite
Жыл бұрын
Forreal. They just keep bringing Nosferatu back. Also the chocolate skeleton lady from Chocolate with Nuts (she came back in two recent eps)
@alexm.a.d892
Жыл бұрын
@@Dezlite I was surprised when I saw Nosferatu being a re occurring character instead of being a background nod to that particular episode
@KaleBennett
Жыл бұрын
Something I don't like about Spongebob being drawn nowadays is how often his cheeks go over his mouth rather than being pulled back when he smiles. It feels like an effort to make him come across as more cute and childish, given they did the same for Patrick.
@ThrillsofColdplay
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s a little off
@andykishore
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, SpongeBob's cheeks can be a real problem sometimes.
@cryodual
Жыл бұрын
Yeah his cheeks need to be bigger
@logancracraftgaming7124
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW!
@denjismissingnut2222
Жыл бұрын
@@logancracraftgaming7124Maybe keep your weird sad little comments to yourself until you mature past the age of 5, freak. Hopefully nothing important to you dies
@brickdarg6750
Жыл бұрын
The main issue I have with modern Spongebob just from a quick glance is how any new side character just doesn't mesh with the established crew and other side characters. I can't put my finger on it, but it's similar to the new clones in Clone High 2023. Their art direction just feels too different from what we know the residents of Bikini Bottom to be.
@JeskidoYT
Жыл бұрын
also that it's been 10 or even 15 years for some characters to reappear again randomly in the series. THAT LONG
@kotzpenner
Жыл бұрын
It’s probably the over complication in design compared to the simpler design of the main cast. I mean you can easily draw the main cast by heart since it’s a few shapes and colours, I mean look at Patrick. The new side chars are often complicated and not fitting. It’s like if you put SpongeBob through a hyper realistic filter.
@reddeadspartan
Жыл бұрын
Simpsons has had the same issue for years too, maybe this is just the curse of long running cartoons?
@Iwidelyoutliveeverything
6 ай бұрын
They're either tube sausage people claiming to be fish, or wrinkly realistic monsters
@angel_of_rust
4 ай бұрын
you can tell they're drawn by the wrong type of Spongebob fans, the type that also like Sonic and make X the Y OCs.
@complex2live
Жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting analysis. Because I honesty do think that Modern SpongeBob has been dumbed down compared to the original. The original (Season 1-3, and maybe the first part of Season 4) had good written episodes that changed cartoon history in a few ways. And it would use crazy faces only if it was a for a joke or just something that would suprise you, and it wasn’t overdone. The newer seasons though, it seems they don’t have writers capable enough to make good stories anymore. But to be fair on both parts, the artists (as you said) are just being told whats going on in the story for the current episode, but there comes a point (normally after the 3rd to 4th season mark, "no pun intended") where you already used the best ideas and don't know what to do and thats the time to stop the show. Just my opinion. Good video Mark. Also I love the fish model. The new Bubble Bass is upon us.
@logancracraftgaming7124
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW AND I AM LAUGHING!
@Exzimius
Жыл бұрын
@@logancracraftgaming7124not really relevant to the situation at hand tho.
@beanoptodon
Жыл бұрын
@@Exzimiusit's a bot, just report it
@sentientbluewallpaper8859
Жыл бұрын
@@logancracraftgaming7124 wrong channel, kid
@augustoof13
Жыл бұрын
I had a really bad childhood where I lived in an apartment with my bio parents and the only thing I could do was sit in my crib and watch seasons 1-3 of spongebob, all day every day for 5 years. I’m not kidding, they were genuinely very neglectful. Spongebob was my friend, and i fucking hate what they’ve done to him and his friends. For me, it’s very personal because he was the only thing I had for the first few years of my life, and they took that away too. I would’ve felt much better if they just canceled it maybe 5-6 seasons in, let it die with some shred of dignity. It feels like the only good part of my childhood was taken away from me, too. Sorry I didn’t mean to trauma dump.
@mythcat1273
Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with modern spongebob is that once they realized that lots of people used screenshots from the show as reaction images or memes, they've just constantly been trying to produce the next "caveman spongebob" or "surprised patrick"
@andieallison6792
Жыл бұрын
YES.
@low-keydrama1260
Жыл бұрын
U hit the nail on the head
@idk7677
Жыл бұрын
Can’t forget chicken bob
@theradionicrevival8068
Жыл бұрын
Mark literally debunked this at the beginning of the video. And honestly as an artist myself, Mark was pretty on point. The internet is crazy and fads come and go and animation takes so long to make its pretty disingenuous to chalk up all that talent to them just being in arms race to make a meme in a cartoon for kids where wacky faces has always been sort of part of the show. Forgot their name, but the og rebel taxi crew straight up brought in a ton of animators in the industry as guests for their old podcast (the pizza party podcast) and one of the most poingnant things said by one of them is what their thoughts were on what they thought of non-animation industry takes and theories And homeboy said they love them because it’s always 100% more interesting than what actually goes on on the inside, due to the fact that it’s all just any other job at the end of the day. Nobody makes choices, everything is some insidious plot or slight on someone’s character or some act of self sabotage for clout. And GOD it rings so true Now to be fair; yeah, a myriad of things impact why artist do what we do in the same way things effect what you do what you do, we’re all just people after all. However- Sometimes-- It ain’t that deep bro, (which I hate saying when it comes to art) but sometimes it not some insidious plot, sometimes an artist puts something in because it’s cool or funny and it makes their job and their day a little brighter. I only bring this up because while not working on anything spongebob related, Tyson Hesse one of the main artist for a lot of modern 2D sonic media had about the same thing to say in response to a fan criticizing the silly faces. They’re doing god knows how many drawings a day, sometimes they just do something silly for silliness sake. To treat it like some valid clout chasing, is honestly pretty scummy imo :/ As Mark said at the beginning, we DON’T know what’s going through their heads, but to make an assumption to rationalize your distaste for something that basically amounts to personal preference is incredibly odd, rude and disenegenous You could just say “idk, I can’t put my finger on it, but it doesn’t feel ‘spongebob’ to me, and I don’t like it.” Instead of using some ad hominem to attack or imply one’s character. Just makes you look shitty, even when you weren’t intending to be.
@Pablo.673
Жыл бұрын
Not at all. Even LS Mark said he disagreed with this.
@FuseiRogu
Жыл бұрын
The best part of each LS Mark vid is when he shows the fact hes actually open to different opinions and views. He never says anything like "I DONT CARE WHAT YOU THINK", he legit listens. Good on you, Mark!
@Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl
Жыл бұрын
Same
@corporatecanine6030
Жыл бұрын
And people still find ways to harp on him and villainize him. Its very telling.
@FuseiRogu
Жыл бұрын
@@corporatecanine6030 Yeah! They hate when they can't really be upset at the fact he actually cares about their views
@TKsh1
Жыл бұрын
The over-expressive worked for Ren and Stimpy because it complimented the show's acid humor. Without something to back it up, a show like Spongebob doesn't fit the more "grounded" strcture of the show.
@towivamoriz7789
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ReddyToAnimate
2 ай бұрын
What about Cow And Chicken, I Am Weasel, Space Goofs and Oggy And The Cockroaches?
@HeisenbergFam
Жыл бұрын
"I logged on to Twitter one day" im amazed Mark is still sane after experiencing Twitter, unless he's already insane
@dillon9378
Жыл бұрын
Now I know why he is insane. Thank you breaking Walter white🙏🙏
@zachflakerton
Жыл бұрын
There’s a difference between “expressive” faces and what Mr. Enter described the modern wacky faces as “frantic.” The faces shown here 4:30 are still very expressive without being frantic. The frantic faces stray so off model to the point where the characters almost look like they’re not the same person. The show has always used that (maybe with the exception of Season 1) but it was meant to serve a peak emotional moment, like the classic “you like krabby patties don’t you Squidward?” All of the tension in that episode was building up to that very moment so the face served the joke. The fact that they do off model faces every other frame suggests they don’t fit the dialogue or serve any purpose.
@angel_of_rust
4 ай бұрын
it feels like compensation tbh.
@themachomanrs
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Mark is finally going for a more realistic character to himself IRL
@cold_soup_
Жыл бұрын
i feel you put the differences between the eras of spongebob into words really well. i feel like i better understand why i'm not a huge fan of the newer seasons despite still loving the early ones. the insight into the differences in the processes for the different eras was really interesting too, it explains a lot why the different periods in the show's run were so radically different from each other also DAMN they did a lot of the artists dirty in the mid seasons. i kinda want to see a world where those episodes had looser animation that better reflected the original storyboards and sketches
@CaptainCat101
Жыл бұрын
Paramount needs Spongebob to stay relevant, and there isn't an easier way to make quick money than selling Spongebob memes
@cursorguy
Жыл бұрын
@@wallowlightlmao what’s that suppose to mean
@andykishore
Жыл бұрын
LOL, like as if the fanbase is not keeping it relevant enough already. Consider that this is the same fanbase that won't allow the show to get cancelled and go off the air.
@2-Way_Intersection
Жыл бұрын
what???? you act like all paramount is is nickelodeon
@the_very_cozy_burrito
Жыл бұрын
@mrdingus1530 actually i think they are, yknow it's a 25 year old show right?
@nutquesadilla5075
Жыл бұрын
He literally refutes this thought process in the video
@chimerschang
Жыл бұрын
On the topic of the "my leg!" gag, one key element to making it work I feel is that they just used the same voice clip every time. That, and they didn't make the mistake of recent episodes of pointing it out and drawing attention to it.
@GiffanyCD
Жыл бұрын
This is why I enjoy watching LS Mark, he seems like a real person talking about what he likes and not some Tumblr User getting mad over a single frame of off model animation. this video feels informative, and I actually learned some stuff about animation keep making cool videos
@logancracraftgaming7124
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW AND I AM LAUGHING!
@Flowermations
Жыл бұрын
@benpodvia5744 Yeah, though at least John owned up to his mistakes and is more calmer in his videos now then he was in the past.
@allendepacheco3419
Жыл бұрын
@@FlowermationsHe actually saw the Patrick Show episode that involves the "online reviewer" and he actually enjoyed it. He said if the episode came out around the same time he was reviewing the other bad SpongeBob episodes, he would go ballistic and call the episode mean spirited for insulting the fan (all while doxxing the writers and have people to harass them). Instead, he actually appreciated the episode for how accurate the Bubble Bass reviews were to the reviews of the 2010s. He explain that the show wasn't for him, but he know some people who like Uncle Grandpa would genuinely like this as they're part of the same niche of humor. Mr Enter is no longer that angry reviewer that would shout random and bizarre takes especially once be pandemic came to an end.
@Flowermations
Жыл бұрын
@@allendepacheco3419 Yeah I saw that video too, that´s what we folks call character development.
@BigForAHedgehog
Жыл бұрын
I think my biggest gripe about modern SpongeBob is how it's more of a kids show than an all ages show now
@CallMeAirChaps
Жыл бұрын
You see this a lot now. It's like writers just go "who cares, kids will eat this up" without remembering that many parents and older siblings are going to have to watch this stuff a lot with the kids. Stuff like old SpongeBob and Shrek were genuinely funny even to the parents
@Wario1382
Жыл бұрын
Spongebob is trash without Stephen Hillenburg
@ethelturner5466
Жыл бұрын
It was meant to end at the first movie, but Stephen decided that SpongeBob was to good of a show to end on that note, but that was his mistake that he can't take back since he passed away.
@princessnicki63
Жыл бұрын
I hate this saying too, though. Spongebob has always been a "kids'" show, it just so happens that it also heavily resonated with adults and adults loved it too because of how genius the dialogue and humor was; however, this newer team of writers (I've noticed this in a lot of other modern cartoons as well) seem to think children are inherently too stupid to find anything other than oversaturated colors and endless body gags entertaining. It's like they went from a show that was creative AND hilarious to......Cocomelon level brain rot. It's unfortunate tbh
@gummidon1618
Жыл бұрын
@@princessnicki63 very offended you’d ever compare any version of SpongeBob to cocomelon. Bright colors doesnr automatically equal something is bad and childish.
@stigmaoftherose
Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem isn't the animation, it's how vibrant the colors are. I think the original muted colors were good for an underwater world and moving to more expensive animation is fine but keeping the original color pallet and contrast is more important than anything else and looking at the new ones are so much more visually noisy that it's hard to look at. It feels like it's designed to overstimulate the brain with bright flashing colors rather than focused on the art, writing and other things that keep you watching. Also I think it's super important for a show to keep some level of visual fidelity over the years on some level, if it looks so different it's hard to tell it's the same show is an issue. Sure, season one Simpsons and family guy also look extremely different but I feel an establishing shot in those still looks like the same show unlike SpongeBob.
@socialgutbrain7774
Жыл бұрын
I agree. The new rendering style feels too bright, sharp and sleek. The warmth and fuzziness of older Spongebob, though, that was the stuff. Now I wonder what Adam Paolian's drawings would look like with the original fuzzy lines and cozy colors.
@macroy2159
6 ай бұрын
sorry to say this 6 months later, but its always supposed to have been like that. you can look up color guides and animation cels from the early seasons and they'll all have the same, bright color palette.
@goosegas2087
3 ай бұрын
@@macroy2159Couldn't that mean they were relying on the tech to mute the colors for them too? So that way they weren't too dark when they put it together?
@thischannelhasbeenabandoned420
Жыл бұрын
I actually like the newer animation, but I would change the writing style to make it closer to those older seasons and the color palette and overall character designs to match Season 1, as I like the cozier, cel look S1 has. I feel it'll be the best of every world. The artists get to do the Ren and Stimpy/Space Goofs style animation they want to do while having better writing and nicer colors. It's what I like to call PeakBob aesthetic.
@nostalgialodeon9305
Жыл бұрын
Mark I definitely recommend you check out the SpongeBob comics that ran from 2011-2018. They were made by Derek Drymon, someone who had a huge part in the classic era of SpongeBob and Stephen Hillenburg even had involvement with the comics and they definitely feel more in line with the classic SpongeBob then the show has for years! I’d love to maybe see you do a review on them one day!
@dante_0962
Жыл бұрын
There comics of SpongeBob?!
@socialgutbrain7774
Жыл бұрын
I have an issue lying around somewhere in my room, and it absolutely does have the same charm as the early seasons for sure
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
Жыл бұрын
@@dante_0962Yup. There is some wild stuff in them too.
@goatfan300fs7
Жыл бұрын
Spongebob was definitely made as a show for all to enjoy in its early years before becoming solely a kids show gradually
@happaxgamma
Жыл бұрын
The problem with most kids shows (partially cartoons) these days is that they pander too much to kids than being for the whole family. Families are more able to enjoy cartoons like Regular Show and Gravity Falls over something childish like We Baby Bears or Molly McGee. I heard that Adult Cartoons have been getting better reputation in this decade with shows like Smiling Friends, and the Adventure Time revival, but I highly don't recommend children watching those.
@goatfan300fs7
Жыл бұрын
@@happaxgamma it helps with a show being regarded as timeless when you make it targeted towards everyone in the audience
@raidenstark315
Жыл бұрын
Like the flintstones
@kingbash6466
Жыл бұрын
While I commend the effort put into the animation for the modern seasons, especially after how Seasons 6-8felt pretty stagnant, I feel like they overcompensated by making the comedy rely on "lol funny meme faces." The reason why stuff like Squidward's "Tonight" face gets such as big reaction because the first 3 seasons and even parts of Seasons 4-8 understood the concept of restraint. Starting from season 10 it feels like the comedy is basically carried on whether or not you enjoy Ren & Stimpy-esque weird faces for 90% of the runtime, and as someone who still enjoys that style of comedy, even that some understand when not to try so hard to look crazy and wacky at points.
@legendbtv
Жыл бұрын
Yeah when you’re watching season 10+ it’s more reaction-inducing to NOT see a wacky face. Hell….. with how the animation is now, we need to stop calling them “wacky”because it’s just the new normal. Lol
@thesupermayoreo
Жыл бұрын
@@legendbtvNot when most people who think of Spongebob only think of the golden years of Spongebob from 1999-2004.
@legendbtv
Жыл бұрын
@@thesupermayoreo well Yeah….. of course, during that era, stuff like Squidward’s “tonight” face is a wacky face, I’m just saying that when you normalize something like wacky faces, ( post season 9 ) it kind of just makes them faces, imo
@DeathByZombieGames
Жыл бұрын
This might be a hot take but I don't care how much "effort" it takes to animate new spongebob episodes they need to like cut back on said effort because they're just over doing it
@maccamachine
Жыл бұрын
SpongeBob will always be my favorite show. Some of the newer episodes are actually decent and fun and not all terrible like people say I’m sure the people who say that shit never watched it recently. The older seasons are definitely still the best but it’s not all bad now I do love how colorful it is
@poweroffriendship2.0
Жыл бұрын
The current seasons of Spongbob are maybe hit-and-miss, but it's better than Season 6 - 8.
@goatmilk1
Жыл бұрын
theyve been picking up the slack in season 13 but it kinda is terrible ill be real 💀
@ItalianChicken72
Жыл бұрын
I agree, I enjoy watching the modern seasons, especially Season 9b and 12
@usermcskull4713
Жыл бұрын
Tbh I'm not the biggest fan of post sequel SpongeBob, I think the past two seasons have been good but it's just not really my thing but I really hate the way some older fans tend to talk about long running series. Where they say the modern stuff's bad because of episodes made like 10 years ago
@thepandorica1660
Жыл бұрын
@@usermcskull4713exactly. Like, how many times do we have to say that the Splinter was back in 2008? I was a kid
@shutyourastroidup
Жыл бұрын
i just don’t like the exaggeration of the animation, plus making characters sound and look stupid, like spongebob was a tad stupid at times but now hes just over the top of idiotic in most modern episodes.
@pugcraft8
Жыл бұрын
my problems with the new seasons is that before the faces helped the jokes and now the faces are the jokes they took one characteristics of a character and push it to the extreme and now they feel empty and one noted, it make them fill not connected to ther origin. for example mr Krab fills off now
@snakeman8033
Жыл бұрын
The Mark's Bubble Bass Avatar idea was genius.⭐
@bensvideo
Жыл бұрын
note that the bubblegum kids sponsor also sells NFTs, and they do ""giveaways"" to people who buy their gum. seems pretty sketchy, keep this in mind before buying anything from them
@xainsshrimpboat340
Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe with modern SpongeBob is the soundtrack. The Hawaiian-style background music gave off a much nicer vibe than the weird, stuffy modern style, in my opinion.
@BugsyFoga
Жыл бұрын
You can definitely tell Nick has had been trying to recapture that Ren and Stimpy energy for awhile with the various shows they’ve released throughout the years, and especially with the newer seasons of SpongeBob, and if I’m being honest I heavily prefer this over what the franchise was in post movie era.
@andykishore
Жыл бұрын
Some say that they've been trying to do that since Sanjay and Craig and to think that show was 10 years ago now.
@maxsteellatino3241
Жыл бұрын
@@andykishore The Mighty B! was also inspired by R&S, and that show lasted from 2008 to 2010.
@logancracraftgaming7124
Жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA ELLIE FROM DANTDM IS IN BURNING FIRE NOW AND I AM LAUGHING!
@FringSpield87
Жыл бұрын
@@logancracraftgaming7124Not cool dude, not cool!
@dynamicjackstorm
Жыл бұрын
@@maxsteellatino3241but mighty b was actually really good whilst sanjay and craig was bad. Atleast season 1
@awespongebob
Жыл бұрын
Mark as Bubble Bass gotta be the most cursed thing ever
@RufioTheThird
4 ай бұрын
I just started watching your content and found you here. What the hell? Keep up the great content, I love it!
@NobleGrows
6 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t like the animation it’s just way too much they should dail it down a bit
@velocity1852
7 ай бұрын
I think a big reason SpongeBob lets the artists work so freely now is genuinely because Nick doesn’t know how to manage cartoons anymore lol
@Felix_the_forestcat
Жыл бұрын
I think my main problem with the series is the characters. it seems like they just reduced the characters to one or two traits. Like Patrick is dumb and he eats a lot and SpongeBob is annoying not just to the other characters but to the audience as well. They’re all just not likable anymore. I’ve also noticed that they have been running out of ideas lately, bringing back gags from old episodes, trying to cash out on nostalgia. Either that or they are trying to bring back the magic of early SpongeBob and failing to actually figure out what was special about it.
@newseason3917
Жыл бұрын
I love how thoughtful you are of the storyboard artists, you’ve come a long way
@harjjw
Жыл бұрын
I can't help but chuckle every single time it cuts back to the bubble bass avatar
@OrtegaSauce
Жыл бұрын
The other youtuber is coping for new spongebob so hard they gotta look up the different directors to try and convince people to try to watch at least a few episodes. Nah man keep that shit to yourself
@frenchfry7774
Жыл бұрын
I’m eating some grapes while watching this
@complex2live
Жыл бұрын
Sweet. This comment is pretty underrated.
@n50409
6 ай бұрын
You thought this was gonna be a top comment didn't you
@frenchfry7774
6 ай бұрын
@@n50409 yeah and I wasn’t even eating grapes
@n50409
6 ай бұрын
@@frenchfry7774 I can't believe you would do this
@ArtisticTozmic
5 ай бұрын
How were those grapes
@jaredkino9258
Жыл бұрын
super refreshing to see a yt video that isn't trying to force me to believe anything or regurgitating 2d extreme views for the sake of attention. Just an honest exploration of a topic with a respectfully subjective angle. _"Here's what's up, here's why it might be happening, I don't think it's personally for me, and that's ok."_
@eatatjoes6751
Жыл бұрын
It's the Helluva Boss problem for me. The writing needs work, but the animation is *gorgeous* and seemingly carries the whole show.
@mittycommitspizzatime92
Жыл бұрын
Helluva boss’ problem is that 99% of the jokes are just “hehe s*x”
@robertyeah2259
Жыл бұрын
gotta be real, i cannot finish an episode of anything that person has animated, and it’s because of the dialogue. it sounds so much like the terrible dialogue I wrote when I was 15 where every character is extremely stand off-ish and sexual / or rude because comedy, I guess.
@segaseth
Жыл бұрын
SpongeBob fans are the most defensive of any long term cartoon fan base. I just like SpongeBob. Just like Star Wars,The Simpsons and Family Guy. Our moments that I enjoy less than others and vice-versa I think people need to also remind themselves that sometimes it's just a lot easier to just enjoy something or say this isn't for me. All without having to attack a whole staff of animators and writers. Great video as usual mark 😊
@thesupermayoreo
Жыл бұрын
I can agree with not attacking the writers or animators, but if people wanna voice their opinions on what they heavily dislike, then who are we to say “it’s better to just not say anything negative?”
@danyo5786
Жыл бұрын
If there was one word I would use to describe "modern" sponge bob, i'd say annoying. Like, on a technical level it's not bad and really it isn't all that bad, but it's just really fucking annoying with all the forgettable wacky faces and over animated characters. Okay I take it back the real word i'd use is "try-hard" . They're trying way to hard to make you laugh, and it really doesn't work that well, even when I was really little it didn't amuse me.
@ShyGuyXXL
Жыл бұрын
I can totally understand how tempting it must be for the artists to wanna make the show as expressive as it can possibly be. I mean, I'm an artist and I love expressive characters, but when even fairly mundane things are portrayed in a super exaggerated way, it all just sort of mushes together. This doesn't mean you need to make the show feel stiff and stilted. You can fill your animation with subtle movement every now and then. Then it'll feel alive but you won't take away from the moments where the animation SHOULD be big and over the top.
@maxsteellatino3241
Жыл бұрын
Season 10 is the one that has handled facial expressions best, while Season 11 is better in the stories, by the way, Lost In Bikini Bottom has the most "Classic SpongeBob" animation of Modern SpongeBob, many expressions in that episode remind me a lot of Season 1. By the way, I think you should have made the comparison with Lost In Bikini Bottom (the first Post-2nd Movie episode), that episode feels more like an introduction than Extreme Spots.
@TheIrreverentUncleAl
7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah! Extreme Spots was when the show transitioned into widescreen for the first time.
@therealchoopo
Жыл бұрын
LS Markiplier
@weathermansam2
10 ай бұрын
Wow
@snakeman8033
Жыл бұрын
Well i think this the biggest word what define Modern Spongebob: *"Not bad,but...not for everyone"*
@trafficonez06
Жыл бұрын
I feel like the newer animation is a good example of “less is more”
@Lokiip
Жыл бұрын
The over exaggerated features and over the top fast bouncy movement are its downfall. They dont look good. Theres a reason people are mad about it, because the original creators final wishes were to NOT change it in the exact way the changed it. They didnt wait any time at all. No we may not be the target audience but who do you think picks which shows the kids watch? Who watches with them..? Us. The old show was appealing to all ages. Adults and teens especially loved the art style and hidden adult jokes that seem to be way overly obvious now and the over the top facial movement and quick jumping has a much less appealing quality. It lost its charm. That hurts me to say because it was a staple series in my life for nearly my entire life. That is gone now though. At least we have repeats.
@1funneh1
Жыл бұрын
Bubble Bass Mark is an amazing looking character, and with his clip being one of the more popular ones being thrown around Twitter when his episode aired, it’s also a nice joke as well if that was the intention.
@fogcomign
Жыл бұрын
Sad to see mark put in all this effort to make his points clear even though twitter will ignore the whole video anyways
@StormTeeVee
Жыл бұрын
That's Twitter for ya
@ReddyToAnimate
4 ай бұрын
This show is desperately trying to make a new meme every single episode with the wacky faces they give to the characters. Edit: Actually the reason why SpongeBob’s animation is so exaggerated nowadays is because it got a very big budget. Like VERY big.
@Pyroplayz21
Жыл бұрын
I miss the old SpongeBob man
@andykishore
Жыл бұрын
Don't we all.
@Oneforus21111
Жыл бұрын
We all do
@sahaprocks7751
Жыл бұрын
Wow what a unpopular opinion!
@ItsSalvatore
9 ай бұрын
New Spongebob can be good too, give it a try
@SwirlystarsJP
Жыл бұрын
Really nice to see someone make a video about this. Ever since Season 10, I noticed a big shift in the animation being more wacky but it was in Season 11+ where it felt more and felt too much to where it was the only joke in the episode and was wondering if other people felt the same.
@ant_racer
Жыл бұрын
coincidence when your literally drawing spongebob on rn and this video shows up, lol. honestly, I personally always liked the animation of spongebob since it’s beginning and what it have to offer, the talent the new artists have on the show is impressive and creative for sure. my only real issue with it is when the question really is: does it fit spongebob? The animation really throughout its run always seemed amazing to me, and nowadays I appreciate the effort the artists go to really push the characters animation to its fullest. My only gripe is that I feel they use the animation as a scapegoat to prioritize it over the actual writing. I always loved the writing the show had early on, even in some later seasons as well, but I think the show worked best when that surrealism was more sprinkled on top of good writing, the sparingly done goofy faces over writing that makes the joke of the faces work. When they seem to do it know, it’s really more for the face itself being the joke rather than what they are actually saying, and I’m not the one to bash how people write things, but it would be better if they could also prioritize the writing more often to substitute the faces the characters make, the shows been going on for 20 years now so I understand. Would also just be cool if they experiment more too like I remember you saying in your ranking video, like use stop motion animation or different takes on animation styles, it really would give a breath of fresh air for this show. It’s my favorite show, and really all I’d like to see is for the show to go in a more interesting direction really, at this point it’s been going on for so long, why not do something new yknow?
@damienbastings
Жыл бұрын
Here's a question for the show, what happens if Tom Kenny dies? Like then what happens for the show. If you guys say AI, you disappoint me
@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi
Жыл бұрын
We went from perfect balance in the first 4 seasons, to being stiff and soulless like family guy from seasons 5-9 (like just look at Extreme Spots at 16:33 it just feels so nothing and like it was made to annoy you with stuff like Patrick's single tooth and SpongeBob's squint eyes), to now this over expressive Ren and Stimpy wanna be nonsense since season 10. I just don't get how hard it is to write the way episodes were in the first 3 seasons. Same can be said with the Simpsons. Like SpongeBob now is definitely better than it was in the mid seasons, but this is still a far cry from the golden era.
@Mrnotpib
Жыл бұрын
From a writing comparison vs. board driven… how does the writing get *worse* when it’s script driven? The show was so character and dialogue driven in the first few seasons, it felt like a group of people just trying to make each other laugh. I like the idea of having a completed script to work off of for the animators, but can the jokes not suffer from it? Good things need to feel grounded in something, that’s how this show became popular in the first place. Without it, it feels like an “and then” show.
@mavohq
Жыл бұрын
man the ‘and then’ thing is exactly how i feel about new episodes. tried to give them a chance but every episode just felt like ‘this happens and then this happens and then this happens and now it’s done’, i definitely preferred it when it was more character driven and the characters weren’t either flat, a complete shell of themselves, or needlessly vindictive
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
Жыл бұрын
@@mavohqYeah it makes the jokes suffer too. Like, there is no real setup or delivery. It is just "this and then this and then this and then end scene". Like, there was a really recent one involving Sandy that i assume was intended as a job but came off more as some writer's incredibly weird self inserted kinks (something that I have noticed more than once in modern episodes).
@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470
Жыл бұрын
@BrandonNobleRocks If it is getting old and repetitive then perhaps a sign that the show should finish? There is nothing left to do. Everything is a copy of an older episode.
@ghost-husband
Жыл бұрын
honestly the change in animation and all the expressive faces aren't really the problem imo. i just don't think the newer episodes are that funny. that's why I love spongebob, for the humor and quotable lines. I'm not one of those people that think SpongeBob was bad after the first movie but the vibes of SpongeBob are much different now.
@Zachdewd
Жыл бұрын
I like the funni faices :)
@punishedpilgrim
Жыл бұрын
holy moly it’s the real zachdewd
@brandoncole5533
Жыл бұрын
The fluidity of the animation isn't a problem It really is just the over expression that gets annoying. Theres a way to portray expression and make it funny and waxky without it feeling overvearing or that its taking over the joke But every single movement or bit of emotion needs to be so strongly portrayed because the emotion itself isn't strong Big wacky faces aren't the problem It's the oversaturation of them that bugs me and makes me mad. There are some episodes that make it work but in the majority of them it's just too much and doesn't need to happen
@wesleypatterson2284
Жыл бұрын
Spongebob is becoming like the Simpsons in that each generation blindly claims their version to be the best while blindly hating everything that came before and especially after
@cerealbananas
Жыл бұрын
Me when a long-running show has a divided fan base:
@GuyNamedCrystal
Жыл бұрын
A lot of animation discussion online turns really toxic really quickly, so I'm glad that your video was really well thought out!
@LukeVaughn__
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me be in this video Mark, I had a lot of fun working on it with you! Hope to see you all in Bababooey World!
@EBTheOriginalMaster
Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your cameo appearance in this one.
@RealTomahawk7
Жыл бұрын
The way I see it, it shows the bigger budget and the advances in animation technology compared to 1999. Whether or not it works for the show is for the viewers to decide. And I guess Paramount realized how strong meme culture is today. I mean, I wish I had a dollar for every SpongeBob meme I've seen.
@boopsdoops
Жыл бұрын
it really comes down to the use. the animation where it's on model can be pretty solid still, but the off-model moments that come every half-second can really mess with the show. seasons 1 to 3 could use them well because they weren't so common; they were special because they were truly random and fun moments, and when they're on constantly, you can really lose that value.
@turbobist2889
Жыл бұрын
Ngl, post season 9 Spongebob has got to have one of the most divisive reputations ive seen from the Spongebob fanbase. Its commonly agreed that season 1-3 are peak fiction and season 6-8 are garbage tier. But for season 9-present, people either say its phenomenonal and just as good as the classics, completely awful and disgraceful to the original seasons, or its just average.
@ItalianChicken72
Жыл бұрын
I honestly enjoy most of the wacky faces, but there are exceptions (Jolly Lodgers for example). Besides, the wacky faces actually toned down in Season 13, you can see this in episodes like Spatula of the Heavens and Hot Crossed Nuts
@maxsteellatino3241
Жыл бұрын
Although sometimes the animation in that season looks a bit "slow", the budget probably had to be adjusted with the Spin-Offs
@ItalianChicken72
Жыл бұрын
@@maxsteellatino3241That could be it, it must cost a lot of money to manage 3 shows at once
@z0mb3k1tty
Жыл бұрын
hot crossed *what*
@maxsteellatino3241
Жыл бұрын
@@ItalianChicken72 Yeah, I noticed this when I compared the scene of Squidward hitting in the Sushi Maker in Life Insurance, with the one in Friendiversary, in Life Insurance it looks more fluid and detailed than in Friendiversary, especially when the fists hit Squidward, in Friendiversary looks like they won't touch him, and both episodes are 6 years apart (2017-2023).
@SpaceySodaPop
Жыл бұрын
It feels like people on the internet can’t have a middle ground, it has to be black or white- you either are on this side or the other, when in reality a lot of matters are mostly grey. Not every situation (like this topic) is black and white.
@happyyellow6717
10 ай бұрын
For me, it's not how the show animated, it's what they animate. They could have this quality of animation without the faces. I think season 9 was pretty good at keeping the faces to a minimum, it more started at season 10, and got gradually worse until season 12. I mean just look at episodes like "Mind the Gap" and "Spongebob in Random Land". It's just way to many faces. That's what I think. What do you guys think?
@mcgrathyboi4175
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Zach Hadel (psychic pebbles) did a few storyboards for SpongeBob and even voice acted for a split second
@-throat-
Жыл бұрын
what's da SOURCE
@ww6372
Жыл бұрын
The source? Google Psychic Pebbles SpongeBob and read the multiple sources that confirm it. You can't link on KZitem, the burden of proof is no longer on the original poster it's on you to trust or confirm
@-throat-
Жыл бұрын
@@ww6372 - no it's ok i looked it up. neat stuff
@ww6372
Жыл бұрын
@-throat- sweet. Sorry, saw a recent thread were a creator of a video joined in on mocking a user for sharing a fun fact instead of just fact checking it, so I've become a lol more irritated by people who are like "gimme all the links idk how to google"
@postironichno_innit
Жыл бұрын
uh akshually he never really did any voices
@corporatecanine6030
Жыл бұрын
I understand the argument "you're not the target demographic," but why is it ok for a show with a well established identity to suddenly shift demographics and change the fundamentals of its presentation? Yeah sure, I don't watch Nickelodeon or Cartoon Network nowadays because the shows generally don't appeal to me very well. However, am I really at fault for believing I should be able to come back to these channels to watch a show that's still airing new episodes and get the same thing out of it that I used to? I can watch the original episodes, sure - but whats wrong with wanting more of that same show? I love the early seasons of Spongebob. I think its one of my favorite cartoons now that I think about it. Am I a bad guy for seriously thinking that a show shouldn't change so drastically over the course of its lifespan? Was that original presentation not doing well? If so, why not make a new show with a different presentation people might like and end the older show? Why continue on with a series if you're going to change it almost entirely? It gets to the point that its no longer that same show. I feel like Spongebob is no longer Spongebob; that just because its called "Spongebob Squarepants" and it has all of the same characters, none of them act the way they used to and the general feel of the show makes it feel like a spinoff more than a continuation of the original. Its highly disappointing to me that so many people are entirely and without hesitation willing to defend such practice. I mean, how many people hate something like modern Family Guy compared to its first few seasons? How many people hate the Simpsons? Its very demoralizing to enjoy something just for newer fans to tell me I'm wrong for not liking the direction its heading in. Like I'm being run out of my own home.
@gagglegames
Жыл бұрын
My Leg annoyed me because it rerecord the phrase over and over. The humour for me was hearing the same clip as a background noise, like catching a Wilhelm Scream.
@poweroffriendship2.0
Жыл бұрын
Spongebob SquarePant's animation in the current seasons really gives me the _Ren and Stimpy_ kind of vibe due to its zany yet fluid movements that adds to the chaos and nautical nonsense. While I maybe not a fan of it, the painterly close-up shots will always be best part of the show.
@thecaptain6520
Жыл бұрын
It gives me vibes of "never draw the same face twice"
@helpfulplaylists3933
Жыл бұрын
That's Vincent Waller magic to modern SpongeBob since he worked on the original ren and stimpy show.
@postironichno_innit
Жыл бұрын
omg mr friendship
@Fatih_M177
9 ай бұрын
@@thecaptain6520 It's kinda funny when you think about it. John.K goes absolutely nuts anytime an artist unintentionally duplicates a face. While SpongeBob (Or at least Modern SpongeBob) is able to causally pull of the "no same face twice" rule (Unless they're referencing a meme). Like seriously, it feels like almost every face in modern SpongeBob is always different unless they're using the "default/blank faces"
@pewdiepiesubbot8672
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching Spongebob all my life, and I’ve definitely noticed the show change. For a show that’s been on the air this long, it’s inevitable. There have been some changes I wasn’t a fan of, but regarding these most recent seasons I think they’re pretty solid. Yeah, they’re pretty different from the first seasons, but to me it still feels like Spongebob. To me it feels like they’re trying something new, which I respect. We all have different responses to different changes, and that’s alright. That doesn’t make the show bad or good, just different, and that’s fine
@thesupermayoreo
Жыл бұрын
You can like it and I can dislike it. Though at the end of the day, there are different iterations of Spongebob that people can go and stick with.
@theradionicrevival8068
Жыл бұрын
It’s also kind of inevitable that something running this long hits phases. Everything from dragonball or Jojo (manga AND anime) to western stuff like family guy and the simpsons go through phases that impact the output, for better or worse. It’s inevitable and we have our preferences But just because something changes, just because it isn’t for us, doesn’t mean it’s objectively bad There’s a difference between something isn’t for you, and just being UPSET at something that doesn’t APPEAL to you and treating it as an inherent fault on the creators part. Distinguishing the two is key
@mechajay3358
Жыл бұрын
With me, I feel that the modern SpongeBob being overly expressive with the characters isn't the problem itself, just that it doesn't fit the series. Take the Patrick Star Show spin-off, that style of animation fits more there than it doen in the regular show.
@mittycommitspizzatime92
Жыл бұрын
I have a soft spot for season 1’s look, idk how to put it but it all feels very honest
@seamino8329
Жыл бұрын
all spongebob episodes now are little more then “hey this thing is from an episode 10 years ago!” please laugh!!!!
@TheBargainBinLLc
Жыл бұрын
I like that you show both sides. The few modern SpongeBob I have seen feel completely soulless in my opinion, but people growing up with modern SpongeBob probably love it. It just feels like the Simpsons to me. That’s just the problem with a show going on this long, you’re gonna lose people with the changes. Idk if spongebobs decline is as bad as the simpsons, but modern SB always makes me feel empty on a character side, which is why I fell in love with the show in the first place.
@circleinforthecube5170
8 ай бұрын
i dont know, i grew up around the late noughts early 2010s and i remember hating modern spongebob, all those super toxic "security system takes control of squidwards house!" critic youtubers came from that time period
@100percentnothing
Жыл бұрын
Well as per usual both extremes suck. But imo the sponge just needs to come to an end, theres no high end to reach anymore, and theres nothing we would lose as a viewer.
@SnooperStar18262
Жыл бұрын
Nice fish avatar. Threw me off guard! You should do stuff like that more often.
@TheWolfOC
Жыл бұрын
Quite Noticeable But patrick Was Way more smarter in S1, They Just took all his smartness out and made him dumb all together
@DysfunctionalJ
Жыл бұрын
I know it is off topic but would love you to rank every episode of American dad. Love that show and personally think it's better than family guy.
@mtx247
Жыл бұрын
My problem with the animation is it's extremely grotesque now. I can understand why many parents say their kids aren't allowed to watch the show. I'm shocked it's not rated teen or higher. They're pretty much showing gore but in a "kid friendly" way.
@genesis4322
Жыл бұрын
I only really saw the first 5-6 seasons and I haven't watched the show in a long while so we are on the same page in terms of experience. I love to hear your opinions because I feel you on these.
@FinchZeKey
Жыл бұрын
I really miss when my favorite cartoon sponge was subtle and sincere 🥲
@SIudge
Жыл бұрын
More simple and clean
@Abexian2234
Жыл бұрын
@@SIudgeIt's the way that you're making me feel
@neverstepd7
Жыл бұрын
I see the og animation was trying to joke with the idea of hyper-realism, the og wacky faces were trying to look human, as with strong lips or wrinkles, specially the close ups. The new spongebob just tries to look silly, which isnt bad but is just not spongebob
@SnooperStar18262
7 ай бұрын
My thoughts on it are that I appreciate the modern series more than I like. I respect it but it doesn't hold a candle to the originals. If you like the whacky faces that's fine, but hiding behind the "it's not made for you anymore" shield is not the way either.
@toon4thought
Жыл бұрын
That whole script-driven vs. storyboard-driven discussion gets even crazier when you find out that "The Patrick Star Show" switched to being board-driven sometime midway through its first season, which I think could also be interesting to compare with the current script-driven stuff from the parent series. But that really is a point for another day.
@that1latinodude20
Жыл бұрын
I love expressive animation, but like I wish they did it more sparingly
@misterdoc5773
Жыл бұрын
LS Mark needs to watch the latest Patrick Star Show episodes. They aren't that bad to be honest.
@nd_kui1772
Жыл бұрын
Honestly it is actually very distracting how much their faces change when they are talking. I know they do it for the funny and it looks soo damn smooth. But man, if they would tone it down and keep that level of smoothness. The animation would definitely be top tier. Over-animating is a thing
@theghostcreator776
Жыл бұрын
The animation is really not good, the designs are unappealing. No matter how fluid or expressive the animation is it isn't SpongeBob. None of the characters of the modern episodes look like they're from SpongeBob, but rather a fan animation, a parody. The art is so off model and flanderized at this point that it doesn't even look official anymore. SpongeBob himself is so damn saturated now with all of his facial features scrunched towards the center and way more square than he was before.
@randomguyontheinternet7940
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I like how SpongeBob has kinda become a modern Loony Tunes. Despite its animation and visions progressing a lot differently. We need more shows that are willing to give artists freedom, that's the kinda stuff that's gonna inspire kids to learn to draw and animate. People act as if being critical or supportive are bad perspectives to have but you need a bit of both when you're talking about a series with so many people working on it. People love to pretend like being critical means you're endlessly bitching and if you're supportive you need higher standards when in reality this doesn't have to be a personal war against each other. Discussions like this should be welcome when it comes to art, even when its aimed at children mainly. If Spongebob can be different but still critically acclaimed and influential I'd be all for that.
@albertscountry7271
Жыл бұрын
You know, it’s funny that Mark’s Bubble Bass avatar is based on Bubble Bass Reviews considering it’s one of the new board-driven episodes of the Patrick Star Show.
@ethan10146
Жыл бұрын
It’s simple, when the writing sucks- you make up for it by having the main character do some wacky adhd stuff so you don’t realize as much
@Hauntaku
Жыл бұрын
The old Spongebob animation was subtle and that's why its animation is best
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