After spending decades trying to master the conventional swing, then watching Moe (and Todd), I think the most radical difference is his lower body, and in turn the arms/club through impact. If Moe simply posted his lead leg, he would be arriving at impact like everyone else, but NO ONE else flexes the lead knee and tries to extend the club face down the target line like Moe. That must be the big difference and caused him to be the most accurate and solid hitting player in history. I find this fascinating. Thanks for posting it Todd.
@ironsideeve2955
2 жыл бұрын
Plenty do/did including Hogan
@mikemoore2504
2 жыл бұрын
Todd. I was a teaching pro when this video was presented. Nobody new what he was talking about. You have unlocked the secrets to his success. Thanks for your dictation to interpreting.
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
Did you see the presentation?
@mikemoore2504
2 жыл бұрын
@@ToddGravesGolf I was in the Iowa section and it was played at one of our section meetings. I picked up on the fact he was on plane. But I was so entrenched in the conventional swing I could not get past the set up. But now with your insight it makes a ton of sense. I am out of the business now and on my own single plane journey. I may show at one of your schools. Nice work I hope you have been recognized as a master teacher.
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
@@mikemoore2504 so interesting. Thanks for sharing your story about your journey.
@albylongballboarder
2 жыл бұрын
Todd, thanks for these FANTASTIC videos of Moe - totally love them. Question - did Moe ever had back issues or tennis elbow issues after hitting so many balls during the demo? Surely he must have been sore, at least? We see his callous on his left hand from the heavy club and larger grip. Back in the days, those leather grips would be ripping his hands since he wears no gloves?
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
Moe would often say "Ive never seen a doctor". He never had back problems. Yes, he had some serious callouses and rough grips. But never saw him in any pain whatsoever. Even when he was 70.
@palletwizard
Жыл бұрын
Hello Todd. I bet you’re going to really find this interesting. I’ve been applying Moe insight and wisdom to my disc golf game and yesterday on two different courses I probably thrown the best I have in three years I just can’t believe that I can apply his wisdom to Disc Golf with his golf wisdom.
@jekylthorn8969
Жыл бұрын
Incredible. I have never been convinced that the accepted swing is the best way to hit a ball straight and consistent.
@MrCraigo64
2 жыл бұрын
This is pure Gold. So many nuggets of truth here. I am a little confused about Moes grip, being a two handed grip, did it evolve after this to a overlapping grip or did it stay the same throughout his golfing career? Thank you for posting this, Todd.
@latman1
2 жыл бұрын
Did you hear anything more about that grip I'm confused also?🤔
@latman1
2 жыл бұрын
I just watched another video of todds where he explained the difference between 10-finger and overlapping and he showed pictures of Moe doing overlapping grip.🤔
@lanidrac
2 жыл бұрын
Go read the comments in part 1 of this video. Todd addresses it.
@ElVerdeVida
2 жыл бұрын
And again im here watching Moe for the (who knows how many dozen times)...
@joenugent9638
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd. Do you still have the Biomech putter in your bag? -Thanks and definitely keep doing what you're doing!
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I love the putter
@roycemartin9068
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, I’ve seen a video of moe swinging in his early years (maybe it was even at Augusta but he looked to be in his 20s or 30s. His shaft went all the way to parallel in his backswing and he lifted his left heel in his backswing. Do you know or think moe made any changes to his swing throughout the years? Or was the only difference was how big of a shoulder turn he made from his early years to later on in life? Also, do you have any video of him in his younger years? I’d be very interested to see some swings when he was 20 something or 30 something. Thanks
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen it all.
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
Let me ask you a question that I am curious about. If you were to make two swings with the same address, same setup, same grip and the club planed exactly the same way in backswing and downing, impact and through swing, but one swing lifted the lead foot and one swing did not, would you consider them different swings?
@roycemartin9068
2 жыл бұрын
Todd Graves I’d consider those 2 swings the same, of course. I didn’t know a simple question would have got your panties in a bunch. I’m actually a big fan of yours and love what u teach. Just trying to figure some things out that’s all.
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
@@roycemartin9068 My panties are ok. I was genuinely curious because I get this question quite a bit. When Moe was younger, his lead arm would bend, and the club would go to parallel. Again, same mechanics with a slightly bent arm. His lead foot comes off the ground with longer clubs because of wider stance but not the shorter clubs. Again, the swing mechanics are the same but there are degrees of it.
@silverback101
Жыл бұрын
@@ToddGravesGolf they are the same swing, of course when he was younger he had better flexibility hence the distance he took the club back. Lifting the heal seems to me to make this easier, and now it is no longer necessary to reach the point where he starts his swing in his later years. but it's still the same swing. I'm a believer, to me it feels better , more consistent. Thanks for the training aids. God bless.
@georgegonczarek
Жыл бұрын
What was his swing speed and ball speed
@matthewoberton1830
2 жыл бұрын
Only purity of technique!
@gregorylatta8159
Жыл бұрын
Individualism verses a cookie cutter approach has broad applications.
@gordenscottfan3107
2 жыл бұрын
More "Natural Golf" here............
@latman1
2 жыл бұрын
So he's saying he used the 10-finger baseball grip??🤔
@ToddGravesGolf
2 жыл бұрын
No a baseball grip is not what Moe used. He used an overlapping grip until 1994 and then stopped overlapping in 1994. Baseball is a completely different hand position.
@CDT00016
Жыл бұрын
Too bad moe doesn't have faith...believe in God... A witness next to me.. a woman.. beautiful looking woman..so it's nothing to do with looks, just trying to figure as mine. He may have been twelve is whole life so I guess he does keep it simple
@eharphyde
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest. His backswing goes nowhere near as far as he says it does while on the ground. And the same on the follow thru.
@keithels2528
2 жыл бұрын
He did say "it-feels-like" I have sometimes heard him say or "at least I think...."
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