“Knock knock, I’m heeeeere!” Can’t believe I never got that before now. In retrospect it was so obvious.
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
Yeah I know!!! I actually only found that WHILE editing which is why it feels a bit out of place in the video and why I didn’t talk about more. Looking back, yeah it’s a pretty obvious connection
@WitheredBonnie
6 ай бұрын
I don't get where the connection is honestly?
@supremedellerior3628
6 ай бұрын
@@WitheredBonnie In the third Candy Cadet story, at the end there was a knock at the door. Sound familiar?
@WitheredBonnie
6 ай бұрын
@@supremedellerior3628 sounds like a stretch tbh
@Sonicmid
6 ай бұрын
Also, the voice line “ together again” is referencing the bite victim.
@Stormister
6 ай бұрын
I have always liked MoltenMCI for how it ties things together with the MCI, and reinforces that Henry's plan is to end EVERYTHING. Admittedly it does have flaws like the ones you pointed out, though I am personally willing to chalk those up to Scott's level of writing not accounting for every single detail (especially when he tried to end the series twice before FFPS)
@AloneTheorist
6 ай бұрын
The scooper doesn't strip the endoskeletons. In sister location it breaks open the moving plates, causing the endoskeleton to simply fall out. Ballora her self proves this when her endoskeleton slumps over staring at you while you try to frantically get rid of the minireenas crawling up the suit you are trapped in. It's an automatic shell cracker.
@ShennaTheShinyEevee
6 ай бұрын
in Dungeons and Dragons discourse there's a concept that I feel applies here. There, it's RAW vs RAI. Rules As Written and Rules As Intended. Sometimes, the hard *facts* of what is written actively contradict the feel of the game, previous mechanics, or are just dumb in semi-realistic scenarios Here, I feel like there is a "Lore As Written" and "Lore As Intended", where Scott tried, or is trying to tell a story, but somehow keeps writing in or out details that actively contradicts the feel of the story, previous lore, or is just dumb if you think about it enough. I feel MoltenMCI was Lore as Intended, but as it is written currently, it's impossible for it to be canon. Now, in D&D, people do whatever with RAW and RAI. You can play with either, or a mixture of both, it's fun to experiment and, in the end, have different variations that you can mix and match together to tell an interesting narrative we should apply that a bit more here, accepting that we don't have all the facts, information and *cohesive storytelling* to actually say without a shadow of a doubt what the canon events were. We can mix and match theories, and as long as it is fun, it's worth it
@Shift_Salt
6 ай бұрын
"Gregory, have you heard of remnant?" "I'm twelve."
@Pikacho564
Ай бұрын
Nah he 6
@Sonicmid
6 ай бұрын
Story wise and narratively it makes complete sense why molten Freddy is possessed by the MCI kids. You would obviously want the characters who started it all to be in the final game. However, the way we get there is extremely weird in my opinion.
@some_battle_droid5695
6 ай бұрын
11:01 These stories could’ve been made when scrap chica was going to be a thing, meaning that there would be 5 animatronics
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
Hey guys, thanks for watching! Just a few things: - First, I used the same Molten Freddy render in a previous video and got accused of using AI. I can confirm this image was NOT created by artificial intelligence, it is simply an oil paint filter I added using Photoshop. I can already see the comments rolling in ahah - Second, you guys NEED to follow Daveon here: twitter.com/Daveon64. Daveon makes me the coolest art and renders that I can use for my videos and he is so underrated! A follow for him also feels like a second follow for me :) - Finally, as you may know from other videos... I like to be a little playful whilst editing and so I've hidden 5 vengeful spirit faces in this video. I'll be very surprised if anyone can actually find them all! That's it from me. I really appreciate all your support as per usual, these long uploads take so long to make and your positive comments make it all worth while. Thanks!
@dtimetyp7062
6 ай бұрын
0:50 5:26 13:58 22:25 23:20 which kind of is a repeat but those are five toyshnk
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
@@dtimetyp7062 you are insane. I forgot about the repeat so there’s actually one more Spoilers Around 12:48, it’s a pretty tricky find :)
@adrianbarajas8338
6 ай бұрын
Will you do a video on Epilogue 8
@docrilas
6 ай бұрын
What's the problem with AI?
@adrianbarajas8338
6 ай бұрын
It steals art
@Funtime_Fredd
6 ай бұрын
Finally someone who admits that Theories have flaws.
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
Glad to be of service!
@fr3dm3rc0ry4
6 ай бұрын
but it's also very clear how this was Scott intended too
@purplepedantry
6 ай бұрын
Well, that's the textbook definition of theories. They can be almost perfect, but since everything is always changing, they can always be improved.
@Funtime_Fredd
6 ай бұрын
@@purplepedantry Incorrect because nothing and nobody is ever going to be perfect. Also if you ever think there is such a thing as perfection, then clearly you are delusional or gone in the head.
@purplepedantry
6 ай бұрын
@@Funtime_Fredd I said 'almost perfect', and 'can always be improved'. You don't need perfect reading comprehension to understand that doesn't mean I'm looking for perfection.
@porcelainchips6061
6 ай бұрын
Remnant is often described as "ghost sweat", suggesting it is a separate substance from the spirits. The spirit/ghost gets absorbed (bond to) into the physical metal and it begins to sweat the remnant as a "byproduct" of haunting the physical object. That is a pretty supernatural phenomena; making metal sweat. So what if the FNAF3 cutscenes are showing us that once Afton takes/detroys/melts down the robot frames, that leaves the spirits disembodied once more; the state they were in right after they were murdered before the puppet bound them to the mascots. Suddenly not attached to a physical thing perhaps causes them to re-appear in the location of their death like a typical ghost, following the "haunting rules" of most ghost stories; the hour strikes midnight, the witching hour and the ghosts rise up from their place of death to wander and exisit until the light of morning banishes them again. Perhaps the scooper was Afton's attempt to "give gifts, give life" but because he was not a ghost-puppet, the best he could do was collect physical remnant and fill up the scooper with it to inject into the Funtimes, which mind you; Henry calls out Molten Freddy (made of the Funtimes) a "construct". Perhaps the irony is that Afton wants to do what the puppet can do; to basically haunt things with spirits, but he can't touch ghosts, he can't "handle" ghosts so he's had to develop this process/method that sort of an an attempt at mimicking it and getting sub-par results (the Funtimes are all crazy because they are 'alive' and yet have no sense of self, identity, individuality; yet they are aware and 'live'). So in short Afton was always harvesting remnant from the original MCI, but was never able to extract the actual ghosts. Something, in the end (perhaps the fact the funtimes kept breaking down constantly) motivated him to finally try to disassemble them and then melt them down together. But then, as the last cutscene shows; that still didn't work; he still could not control the supernatural, what happens to the soul after death and gets 'punished' for his attempts to play God. I think this event, the night he got Springtrapped, can be placed in a timeline using the answers to these two questions; 1) At what point would the original animatronics all be in the same shut-down location, which is abandoned by all other Fazbear employees / no one cares what is happening to that place anymore. 2) At what point does William Afton decide the Funtime technology is not working on remnant as it's only source of Supernatural power, what what point does he decide he has to change his strategy and actually use the MCI mascots directly in his experiments instead of harvesting a byproduct (remnant) from them?
@loganentertainment1814
6 ай бұрын
When you mentioned the screen shot in FNAF 6 that showed the give gifts give life mini game, we know that in FNAF 2, a fifth dead kid shows up after The Puppet places the last head onto the kids body, with Golden Freddy’s jumpscare popping up. It’s possible that Cassidy was the last kid to be given life, but because her soul is in a suit that can’t move, she was able to appear as a hallucination. That’s why she’s vengeful. She never had a proper chance to get her revenge.
@klaibefhuoaiuwehjklbdfsnxnik
6 ай бұрын
16:40 My only issue with this is that ennard exists ALONGSIDE the endos. They aren't the same in this minigame, so I feel like there isn't a lot to suggest they'd be the same outside of the (in universe) VR game.
@fandomsrsin7371
6 ай бұрын
Honestly I think the biggest thing keeping me from truly believing it is the blueprint saying that molten Freddy is the top priority is unused, giving it dubious canonicity
@Skibbutz
6 ай бұрын
The cut image of molten freddy is definitely still canon even if it was unused, as the image reappears in the guidebooks alongside the other images. If it was supposed to be non-canon then scott definitely would have had it removed since he reads over the guidebooks
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
I actually think the reason for that is because it's a bit strange to have a blueprint of a robot that nobody created. Lefty, the scooper and the sound thing all make sense to have blueprints in the first place, but because Molten Freddy is just a new messy Ennard it wouldn't make sense for Henry to show a blueprint of this in-universe. That's not to say the contents of the blueprint aren't canon, though.
@guts60
6 ай бұрын
@@OzoneYTunless the blueprints were more like a dossier when pertaining to Molten Freddy, but that is also just as dubious because it’s out of place.
@fandomsrsin7371
6 ай бұрын
@@OzoneYT idk, I’m just cautious when it comes to using cut content for stuff like this
@mathgod2066
6 ай бұрын
One thing also possibly against the MoltenMCI theory, is that the Freddy model used in the Follow Me mini game is the Fnaf 2 Freddy model, not the Fnaf 1 model. Wouldn’t that imply their endoskeletons are Endo 02 endoskeletons?
@RKStone
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this!! I've been looking for a coherent, cohesive explanation of MoltenMCI for quite some time, and haven't found any, because most of the people I've asked online just expect me to know it already. Thank you for the solid explanation. Now I've got lots to think about 😅
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
Glad I could help!! :)
@ByteTheProtogen172
6 ай бұрын
I feel like what could explain how the children still attacked afton after the endos were taken is the distinction between remnant and souls. The definition of remnant being “a small trace of something left over”. It could be that remnant doesn’t actually contains souls, but merely the super natural energy left behind by a souls possession of the object. If a soul is present in the metal when melted down, great! as energy disperses overtime, having the source of remnant (i.e, the soul) actively in the metal will make more remnant. If remnant is simply just remaining energy, why would henry label it as prioity number 1? Perhaps a souls can’t truly be freed until all parts of it has been released?
@novustalks7525
6 ай бұрын
It's a cool idea and it's canoncity is pretty much cemented since they renamed ennard to molten freddy
@prismaticshades3336
6 ай бұрын
Except this theory sprouted after Molten Freddy was already revealed?
@novustalks7525
6 ай бұрын
@@prismaticshades3336 yeah and?
@prismaticshades3336
6 ай бұрын
@@novustalks7525 So renaming it to Molten Freddy happened before the theory Theory is named after Molten, not the other way around.
@chief-executive
6 ай бұрын
@@prismaticshades3336 Remnant is described in TFC as "molten metal", hence why he's called Molten Freddy. He's not talking about the name of the theory lol
@prismaticshades3336
6 ай бұрын
@@chief-executive That makes a lot more sense lol Havent read the og trilogy in millenia
@jph7472
6 ай бұрын
My headcanon for Yendo is that he's a manifestation of Golden Freddys soul, in all the previous games Golden Freddy is able to change its appearance to reflect the current Freddy so in Sister Location he/she just reflected what Funtime Freddys endo looked like but with golden eyes.
@PsychoticFox0120
6 ай бұрын
Regarding the children’s spirits still being in the FNAF 3 minigame despite their endos also being taken to CB’s E&R, I think something to take note of is that the whole FNAF 1 building seems to be haunted. This is first seen with the poster easter eggs, sudden newspapers on the wall, haunted ambience, etc. and later on, the movie also showcases this when lights are being activated and affected on their own, and the building quakes and things break and shatter as the animatronics gather together when watching William get springlocked in the movie. Perhaps this can connect with the idea of the “agony” element from the Fazbear Frights books, where something can still be haunted despite not being possessed by a ghost. The agony of the missing children still infects the building even after the endos with the spirits were taken to CB’s E&R, and something that adds to this theory is the faint but noticeable black stains on the walls (which some can also be rain too of course), and something that’s possessed by agony is contains a “vicious black liquid” and so if that stuff is sort of around the FNAF 1 building, it adds on that the building itself is still haunted, so perhaps the agony caused William to still see hallucinations of the spirits. As far as all of the FNAF 3 minigames occurring in one night goes, maybe William brought all the parts to CB’s E&R, and came back to the FNAF 1 location again, maybe to make sure nothing was left behind, or for some other reason, and so the negative emotions caused by the children being taken away from their animatronic bodies caused the agony to become stronger, which is why the hallucinations of the spirits end up happening, scaring and fooling William into hiding in Springbonnie, and becoming springlocked. The use of agony was probably not what was intended from the start of course, but with these elements and evidences created throughout FNAF’s history and different timelines, it makes for a pretty decent theory to tie in loose ends.
@havanonynous9673
Ай бұрын
I can’t believe this comment only has two likes! This makes so much sense
@Afish8me2china
6 ай бұрын
I love how Molten Freddy is considered the top priority and biggest threat during FNAF 6 when it looks like a gust of wind could destroy him
@mrsurge4789
3 ай бұрын
I think the second "flaw" in MCI is something that a lot of people misunderstand about MoltenMCI. The spirits of the children aren't literally possessing the Funtimes, their remnant has brought the Funtimes to life and made them sentient. Remnant isn't the soul itself, it's soul *energy*. It's in the name, "remnant" - it's the remains of a soul's energy
@zaq12777
6 ай бұрын
I think that a small detail i learned recently would had helped with the Molten MCI issue. Apparently, in Pizzeria Simulator data miners found evident of a Scrapped Chica enemy that would had appeared on the first night. This Chica would had used a FNAF 1 design. It could had been the link to show one FNAF 1 Animatronic didn't get used for Sister Location stuff. That would had cleaned up the Follow Me inconsistencies. This still wouldn't fix the souls lingering to scare Afton or why the Animatronics were still haunted after the Happiest Day thing.
@BarneyDaDino228
6 ай бұрын
I feel like Cassidy not being burnt has something to do with ucn so she can torment afton
@Sonicmid
6 ай бұрын
Cassidy not the vengeful spirit that Andrew.
@brunoarnoni
6 ай бұрын
Maybe the "5 into 1" thing includes Elizabeth and excludes Cassidy, but I don't feel like that was the intent, because of the tomb behind the grass at the end of FNAF 6.
@completelygivingup9413
6 ай бұрын
I've always been hung up on the idea that it had to have been Afton that put the animatronic parts in to the Funtimes. What if he never did? it's shown they are hunting machines, and we don't know how long they have been out-and-about between Sister Location and Pizza Sim. They've all been scooped, they all have remnant, so they have, bare minimum, some sort of consciousness. What if Molten Freddy was the one who took the parts? Ennard knew how to work the scooper, Freddy probably can too. Maybe they want more to become whole. Who knows?
@spiky724
6 ай бұрын
For flaw 2: the souls could still be there because remnant and souls are seperate,. The definition of remnant is a small piece of something. The remnant in the metal is just something left by the spirits
@SparkleJohn2000
6 ай бұрын
In the books, Afton injects himself with remnant. Maybe the missing kids he’s seeing in that mini game is from his injections if we follow book logic? That could also be how he actually stays alive in springtrap. There’s also the idea that Henry could’ve taken the endos or maybe even Michael. He does get fired for tampering with the animatronics. There’s definitely a lot of different ways to make this fit. so interesting!
@ezu_iny_wuz
6 ай бұрын
I like how all of the molten freddy it looks like he's just entering a family party or just a ordinary party. "Knock Kno-o-ock! -I'm here!" "Thank you for letting me join the pa-a-rty, I-I'll try no-o-ot to disappoint." "OH! WHAT A PLEASANT SURPRISE!" "One BI-I-IG happy-py family!" "Tog-ether aga-ain!" Also there's one line of afton that I like to highlight as well: "Fascinating, what they have become." It's a thing that I think relates to this theory, afton knows what happened to these kids(molten freddy, lefty and scrap baby) and he's admired by what they have turned into, by what monstrosity he has helped to create. Fnaf 6 has just so many love and life put into it, each character has a personality and you can see that when you look at them and hear their voices, that's why fnaf 6 is my favorite game, each theory somehow discovers a new thing about it and everyday you realize that a funny lil fella is actually a lore dump being thrown right at your face lmao. Loved the video and also the theory is really good ngl ^-^ (I literally had goosebumps when the "knock knock! I'm here!" Voice line played and I realized the connection between the two, lmao)
@guts60
6 ай бұрын
Think about it logically. Elizabeth clearly has a soul, so her wanting freedom makes sense. But they the other funtimes? Without MoltenMCI, the funtimes are soulless yet somehow conscious and capable of emotion? And you can’t say they have the souls of other children, Scott would have made it clear in the lore that there have been more MCIs utilizing the Funtime rental services. He would have been specific, because he always is when it comes to events of kids dying. So if no new incidents are made by Scott, then it must be a previous one
@guts60
6 ай бұрын
Cassidy was likely watching from the sidelines. She wasn’t present in Pizza Sim either, so I believe she was using her powerful remnant/agony abilities to simple observe from afar until Afton finally died. She followed him this entire time, or at least looked for him, and was waiting to bring him into a purgatory of her own creation. Either that, or Cassidy/Golden Freddy was dismantled. She did appear outside of her suit to kill Afton, after all. She was simply dismantled outside of a minigame
@MartianCandies
6 ай бұрын
if she was dissembled, maybe she attached to Springtrap after the spring lock, and basically went into like, just waiting. was just there, in wait, and as soon as she had the chance to keep him in her own hell for him she did after the fnaf 6 fire. but at the same time, she was a spring lock suit, she died by being spring locked. (drowning, blood filling lungs). so golden Freddy is confirmed a spring lock suit, meaning the Endo is embedded into the very suit itself also making aftons spring locking at Cassidy's hands more impactful
@mrafton9457
6 ай бұрын
I like how this video shows a good balance for the theory. It is quite a thought provoking subject which I think we don't have enough evidence for a definitive answer yet. But that was a great find in Help Wanted with those four endoskeletons. It makes you wonder how many little details in the FNAF series are still out there still being overlooked by the fanbase after all these years. There could still be that one tiny detail out there that can explain this theory. You never know...
@linomatheus7418
6 ай бұрын
there's just no way moltenMCI isnt true at this point I remember saying the same thing about MoltenDCI in a theory video some months ago tho, so there's that
@hades_7727
6 ай бұрын
I think when Michael said "I put her back together, just like you asked me to" he was referring to Elizabeth and her alone
@ElementiaYT
6 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for all the “thumbnail is AI” comments
@nyekomimi
6 ай бұрын
You know, here's a crazy idea that somehow was never explored, seemingly. There are not 6 souls to put to rest (charlie + MCI 5). There are 7 (elizabeth) or even 8 (2-soul-crying-child)! That would suddenly explain why Charlie and Cassidy seemingly didn't pass... because the grave in distance is Elizabeth.
@ethbeatthem4836
6 ай бұрын
Well my best guess is "Follow Me" events have been retcon and we have no idea what the Event did look like now, we just know the keys points of the mini games did happen, Afton take the suits apart, and the get trapped in the Spring Bonnie Suit after the souls somehow show there physical form. If we revisit the events of "Follow Me" in a modern game Scott can change what he needs to change if MoltenMCI is true, it not confirm but modern FNAF is hinting at it without saying it.
@Yipper64
6 ай бұрын
Oh sort of like how the scooper looks completely different in security breach?
@luluu0101
6 ай бұрын
@Yipper64 for that you should watch Stormister's newest theory, one of the things they touch on is the scooper from Ruin maybe being the real scooper
@Takejiro24
6 ай бұрын
@@Yipper64 Is the Scooper in Ruin not a completely different one? Or maybe the old Scooper that was given an updated design?
@Yipper64
6 ай бұрын
@@Takejiro24 It gets complicated but I hear the theory is that hallucinogenic gas made the scooper look different (though the blueprints in pizzarea sim wouldnt be the same so idk now that I think about it) But yeah basically the idea is it is the same scooper it just looks different. Maybe just a weird redesign of continuity similar to springtrap across different games.
@jacobfoxfires9647
6 ай бұрын
There is one thing about Flaw #2 that I think everyone should be reminded and it’s the fact that the 5 spirits from the MCI are different since they were specifically given life by the Marionette AKA Charlie. And it’s something that irks me about FNAF lore is the fact that Remnant is treated as some kind of universal law of the world that can be consistent, but clearly there are a ton of outliers. Like sure we have the normal answers like Charlie and Elizabeth that fits, but then there is the 5 MCI kids that Charlie did which is VERY supernatural, the immortal trick of possessing yourself like Micheal and William did, the merging of souls with Ennard and Molten Freddy, and there is even weirder cases like how Cassidy is possessing a suit but is a lot more supernatural then the rest, along with Golden Freddy having 2 souls in it. My point is to sum it up, and I guess my argument against the flaw is the fact that Remnant doesn’t have solid guidelines we can follow. And since the 5 MCI kids were brought back through Charlie, we can’t really say what the limits of her supernatural powers start and end. She could either pull out parts of spirits to form into the ghost children we see, maybe she can’t, it’s very hard to know for sure.
@Korra228
6 ай бұрын
MoltenMCI is like that screenshot from the Twilight Zone where the monster is staring right at him and he's wincing with his eyes closed. Like you don't wanna believe it, but the evidence is so overwhelming it's just pure cope to ignore it. "And for those you've carried in your arms" is the smoking gun.
@TheBodyEuphoric
6 ай бұрын
14:06 *gesp* IT WAS HIM ALL ALONG! THE MAGICIAN!!
@monstrdog7031
6 ай бұрын
It could be soul splitting with the mci, parts of their souls in the suit bodies aswell, explaining their presence in fnaf 3 along with the funtimes. As for golden freddy, I saw a theory somewhere that scraptrap fixed his suit with some of those parts, though he also fits the little sprite head we can find in fnaf4s parts and service /shrug
@AloneTheorist
6 ай бұрын
'Small souls' and 'tiny breaths of life' are statements regarding the fragmented states of the souls. Henry built each animatronic at each Freddy Fazbear's pizza (aside from balloon boy and funtime foxy) meaning Afton dismantle d the human bodies of his victims and hid pieces of them in each suit Henry made in order to conceal his crime, hence the desicration and depravity Henry mentioned in his monologue. Fnaf 2's save them minigame's rare screen were purple guy shutdown reboots Freddy telling him he can't save the victims he sees around him and help wanted's maintenance minigame support this. various small quantities of debris related to the missing children are removed from the original four in this help wanted minigame, a shoe and a baseball cap being two such items, one of each is removed from Freddy and Bonnie over the course of this mini game.
@ILikeCones
6 ай бұрын
The point that in the SCUP blueprint remnant is said to possibly be destroyed by overheating wasn't brought up in the video. Since it is stated clearly, that remnant is known to be influenced badly by heat in the same document it's another flaw to this theory and mikebear, and most of matpat's SB headcanon. Or maybe i'm just unaware of other info disproving this, which is the problem with not bringing it up.
@ivon1671
6 ай бұрын
Whatever the truth is, I'm certain of this: Molten Freddy has everyone who hasn't been freed yet, except Elizabeth and Charlie of course. That sounds like a logical thing to conclude. Also, a side note to anyone that may not know. Dittophobia is 100% happening in late '90s or later. Tracable cell phones weren't a thing before then.
@Haley_Halo
6 ай бұрын
Ooo, great point! I love that details like that in our world can help time and location placement. That also means Rory could've been taken back in the 80's, was trapped for 10 years and then traceable cell phones were available. Depends when they were widely available 🤔
@ivon1671
6 ай бұрын
@@Haley_Halo there's also something that implies him being taken some time in the early '90, but it's not confirmed. I'll still mention it though. Rory finds out that his parents made a website after he vanished. Those weren't a thing before the early '90s. But he could've been kidnapped before that time, right? Well...he's suprised after hearing about tracable cell phones, asking "They can do that now?". But after finding out that his parents had a website, he just answers with "Had?", not questioning its existence and instead wondering why they STILL don't have it. Maybe the writer just didn't think about that line of dialogue as much as the other one, but it's something to think about, especially considering how close they are to one another.
@Haley_Halo
6 ай бұрын
@@ivon1671 Also a keen observation about the website comment. The first phone with GPS came out in 1999. Military-grade accurate GPS (without intentional errors) was granted to civilians on May 1, 2000. Yeah, Rory was likely taken in the 90's, probably not earlier than '93 based on general use websites. Just after the time of FNAF 1 😅 Wasn't that where Ozone put it in this video?
@ShiMusume
6 ай бұрын
There is an interesting theory I heard that you can consider: All the games up to sister location had been all a series of games made by an indie dev.... the lore given through the first help wanted. The games are something that exists in a universe where other events took place and the previous games before the new era is something like fanfiction. In this universe it is more possible that the books lore is what actually took place. The book universe and the "FNAF game" lore being something separate. The theory also goes that there is an AI that is attempting to recreate the events that took place in the game and even having people have the fitting roles. Proof of this can even be found in help wanted where you find the odd robots attempting to recreate the afton family from the games. That is why it seems in the new canon the Afton child seems to be Vanessa instead of Michael, and so forth. I may be bad at explaining this. Look up Stormister's video titled: How FNAF World Solves modern FNAF if you want to know the theory I am talking about.
@luluu0101
6 ай бұрын
i replied to you saying to watch Stormister's new video and when i got to the end of your comment it made perfect sense, haha. i really believe they summed it up perfectly, whether it's what i want or not.. it seems to be the current state of the lore and future of fnaf.
@ethancurtsinger172
6 ай бұрын
That’s funny, because the in-universe explanation for games in Help Wanted is that the events did happened, but Fazbear Entertainment hired VR developers as in a attempt to cover-up the events that gave them a bad reputation, because it’s Fazbear Entertainment after all.
@name6770
6 ай бұрын
something i find really interesting about the candy cadet stories in relation to moltenmci, is that the person combining the 5 things isn’t the one that killed them. in all the stories, william would be the killer, the arsonist that locked the children in the rooms, the snake that ate the five kittens, the burglar that killed the five orphans, the one(s) putting them together are people dealing with the consequences of his crimes. the “knock at the door” part in story three, means that if it represents all the souls being laid to rest in the fnaf 6 fire, it failed in some way and at least one of them survived (which we know william maybe kinda did because of the man in room 1280) but would also imply that henry also survived the fnaf 6 fire. the “there was a knock at the door” feels like it could work as the ending to all 3 of the stories, charlie’s fate being intertwined with the mci after intertwining their fates by giving them life in the animatronics, michael being haunted by the missing children, them attacking him in almost every game in the series, and feels most reminiscent of, after he helped them become one, when ennard came to his house in the fake ending of sister location, or him getting scooped and used as a suit for ennard, and the missing children in molten freddy coming to the fnaf 6 pizzeria where henry is, but that would actually imply that henry was the one that put the missing children’s souls into the funtimes. is there any evidence for this other than the candy cadet story? i dunno, but it’s a perspective i don’t think i’ve ever heard before
@xHavki
3 ай бұрын
maybe the toy animatronics are possessed by the spare parts used to repair them from the withered animatronics which splits the souls of the mci kid, and after the toy animatronics are scrapped, William takes them to the sister location bunker and melts them down into the funtime animatronics (except for baby) many years later William arrives to the fnaf 1 pizzeria after it closes and tries to take the rest of the souls to the sister location bunker, but he accidentally frees them from the animatronics and gets springlocked. in 2023, the the second half of the mci souls from the spare parts are in Molten Freddy. after molten freddy is lured to the ffps pizzeria henry burns the pizzeria down freeing the second half of the mci souls that are in molten freddy.
@bubbleshock14
6 ай бұрын
I agree that MoltenMCI is the most likely outcome, but i wouldnt be surprised if it was revealed that its not true. I also like SireSquawks theory that Cassidy isnt part of Molten Freddy because she attached herself to Afton (like Andrew in the books)
@Brorca
6 ай бұрын
Minor crackpot theory of mine: the fnaf 3 post-night minigames take place over the course of five months, rather than five nights
@Milan4480
15 күн бұрын
I have always recognized the problems in MCI, but recently I have been thinking and I think it is true given all the evidence. Because of the animatronics in the furnace, the follow me mini games can’t happen on the same night, I believe that just like in the silver eyes, Afton melted them down and injected the remnant into the already made Funtime animatronics
@thedarkdevil1661
6 ай бұрын
I'm saying this before the video airs but.... MoltenMCI is as annoying as Midnight Motorist is said to be for some fans. It works in a vacuum, but then it messes everything else up if that is the case. It makes more sense, timeline wise, as MoltenDCI (the spirits from the toy animatronics were used), or if the kids are just the kids that were taken by the Funtimes during the rental service's life. MoltenMCI = The spirits in the classic animatronics were used in the funtimes. It gets really annoying, and it messes with the timeline too much.
@OzoneYT
6 ай бұрын
Think you just summed up the whole video tbh ahahah
@Sketch-ic6jf
6 ай бұрын
I’m sorry, but I never understood the theory for Molten Freddy being the Toy Animatronics when there’s barely any evidence and that there’s nothing in FFPS that mentions the Toys at all.
@thedarkdevil1661
6 ай бұрын
@OzoneYT just finished the video and.... As for the HW secret 15:51, you see 4 things become Ennard. NOT 4 things become the funtimes, then Ennard. What 4 things do we know that become Ennard. Yes. The 4 Funtimes. And if you look around the furnace, you actually see the casings of Funtime Foxy and BonBon around the Furnace. This is why I think that secret is just showing the 4 funtimes becoming Ennard, not the classics. Why are the 01 endos used? Why, because its a recreation and they probably only knew that 4 animatronics became Ennard. Its the same reason why the classics are used in Pizza Party, even after the Withers were added to the game, post launch.
@thedarkdevil1661
6 ай бұрын
@Sketch-ic6jf it was based on the idea that the toys used parts of the originals, hence why they're haunted. Then William took their endos before they got Scrapped, and used those for the funtimes instead.
@novustalks7525
6 ай бұрын
Not really. The only issue is the numbers. You can only get 5 souls when it's ennard and not molten freddy because Elizabeth later breaks off
@Sonicmid
6 ай бұрын
Is in molten Freddy also semi possessed by “bite victim”?
@AloneTheorist
6 ай бұрын
The souls are fragmented according to the fnaf 3, in office minigames (you must complete a number of minigames in a specific order including crossing between several of them in order to free each separate soul ahead of the happiest day mini game.), so the souls haunting Afton could just be the phantom fragments Mike experiences in the office in fnaf 3. Apparitions without true form, twisted in agony. This would also explain why the phantoms always appeared burned, they know what William Afton did to the rest of their form and are using it against him. The ghosts never directly interact with Afton yet he is absolutely terrified of them. Them being apparitions of the pain he caused is also supported by ultimate custom night. Nightmare for example has two important voice lines to consider; 1. 'I am your wickedness made flesh.' and 2. 'You will not be spared, you will not be saved.' this implies a recurring theme of pain fuelled apparitions following Afton throughout his life even after becoming Springtrap. The shadow bonnie minigame is a metaphor for how William Afton as Springtrap tricked the puppet into becoming lefty. Afton built the lefty suit to specifically capture the puppet to torture it so he could obtain Charlotte's perfect remnant, a material that could ONLY be obtained by melting the puppet down while it is in a state of agony. As remnant specifically requires intense pain in order to meld the soul to the metal under the heat. Something with evidence in the puppet's ultimate custom night voice lines: 'the others are like animals but I am very aware.' Charlotte Emily's soul was never fragmented nor descended into primal rage unlike the other 5 victims, so her remnant would become Afton's greatest obsession and most coveted prize.
@AloneTheorist
6 ай бұрын
A further side note up until the post game of sister location and the end of fnaf 3 Michael was William Afton's subservient, unquestioning puppet, he could have been used by William to transport the endoskeletons to the sister location so William Afton could stay behind and scout the restaurant, which creates the follow me mini game inconsistency(everyone forgot about Michael). Golden Freddy's connection to Michael is seemingly what breaks William Afton's hold over Michael at the point of the Fnaf 3 fire as Michael's voice warps like Golden Freddy's when he informs William that the only thing he has left to do is find him in the Fnaf 3 cutscene of Golden Freddy mode in sister location's custom night. Plus in sister location Michael would have been splashed by remnant by the scooper when it gouged him, which is what allows Elizabeth to keep her promise to him that 'he wouldn't die'. Hence the missing quantity of remnant and Golden Freddy's presence in pizzeria simulator, it came in through the 'brave volunteer' and formed the reason why he didn't want the exit Henry had planned for him. It came to claim what was left of William and Michael had to die to release it to do so spawning ultimate custom night leading to the old man consequences mini game in which a garbled voice of William Afton states: 'I hate mike! And I hate Henry!' while in a state of seemingly perpetual agony, until Vanessa's vr team receives a particular flesh coated circuit board as a gift in help wanted, which they scan into the game, into which 'it's code took hold all by itself.' creating Glitchtrap and setting off another horrific story.
@yeah_definitely
6 ай бұрын
An Ozone vid???? Im hyped as hell. Its been too long since the last one, these videos are so good
@blitzes3177
5 ай бұрын
To address flaw #2: remnant and souls are not the same thing. Think of remnant as a source of energy, which can animate things, bringing them to life, through lingering memories. Souls are more or less the ghosts of a dead person. A ghost can possess something, but it can also just exist on its own. When the animatronics were dismantled, the remnant lingered within the endoskeletons, however the souls were freed from the animatronics (if only temporarily, what happened to them afterwards is debatable, it’s possible they were unable to move on due to their remnant still possessing animatronics).
@Lundcraft
6 ай бұрын
Sometimes it's also a good idea to remember that some of the flaws, can simply be Scott's writing, he is human after all and such. Molten MCI also kinda explains the toy animatronics in FNAF2, since they had parts from the old animatronics in them. Great video!!!
@KingRarecrazy
6 ай бұрын
I’m on board, this is Interesting to consider but it needs to answer two things for me to switch over to this: 1- MCI 2 & the souls in the toy animatronics (the technical canonical animatronics inside the funtimes… at least to me) what’s going on with them? They aren’t mentioned in it at all. 2- who’s souls are freed in the happiest day? The cast that’s said in this theory to be inside molten freddy is MCI 1 or fnaf 1 cast- but from the good ending of fnaf 3, we know those spirits (- Cassidy I guess) are free. My biggest gripe with the theory- at least with how it’s being told here is it’s not re-writing other key parts of the story- I can go alongside the theory but the second I remember there’s 2 MCIs it loses a lot of ground. Great video though! Very professional and found the theory genuinely intriguing!!
@tristandimitrijev3195
6 ай бұрын
the soul can leave the metal, or the thing left in side the metal is agony
@PhoenixCat
6 ай бұрын
20:50 a possible explanation could be the "Dead children incident". Now I know that the DCI itself is a debatable topic and I'm myself not fully convinced of it but it could make light of MoltenMCI and the follow me minigames. Here's my theory: the spirits that attack William and force him into the springbonnie suit aren't the MCI victims but rather the DCI victims. The DCI takes place shortly before Fnaf2 which is what is depicted in the save them minigame resulting in the DCI victims posessing the Toys, Mangle and BB and lay the groundwork for the Fnaf2 gameplay. The animatronics being so active and aggressive prevents William from immediately dismanteling them. Instead he comes back much later in 1993 when the Toy animatronics are already discontinued and the spirits within "set free" (as in without a body). Afterwards the "follow me" minigame takes place where william comes back and dismantles the old animatronics to take their endoskeleton. (The DCI victims might even manifest in the form of shadow Freddy but that might be a strech.) The MCI victims in the old 4 animatronics were dismantled and turned into the funtimes. (Additionaly William maybe even yoinked Golden Freddy and created Yenndo which would also imply that he experimented with the soul of the crying child.) After witnessing all of that the strong emotions (ig) allow the DCI victims to manifest as their spirits and confront william resulting in him being springtrapped. I'd even go as far as to say that the child directly attacking william is the one that used to posess mangle since mangle also did the Bo87 meaning he is very aggressive in nature. But hey that's just a theory...
@LucyTheHorror
2 ай бұрын
I’m not a big fan of the MCI, but seeing this makes much more sense now, not a lot of people bring up the DCI, it would make sense for them to possess the toy, and their souls being free when they toys were scrapped, to then roam around the Fnaf 1 building and seeing all what was happening through the follow me mini game! Now I’m starting to believe the MCI is true, cause it’s kinda confusing to consider the fact that the MCI’s souls are all over the place, fnaf 3, in the funtimes, I just say their souls our separated between the funtimes and the phantoms
@IncoisaRadio87
6 ай бұрын
In my opinion, flaws #3/2.5 isn't all that major, as Golden Freddy just works in mysterious ways anyhow. Even if Cassidy never made it into Molten Freddy, which for all means she might've, there's nothing saying that she didn't hitch a ride into the FFPS location by some other means. The 1 in "5 into 1" may not refer to Molten Freddy itself, but the destination it all winds up in. But the issue is how we explain the souls in FNaF 3, which don't even line up entirely with how we understand souls in FNaF as a whole ever since the introduction of Remnant. Remnant directly requires a metal vessel to move around. Aside from the phantoms in FNaF 3, which are most likely just outright hallucinations and not actually the missing children, we have no evidence to believe that if the vessel was destroyed, the souls would just start wandering the building. One possibility I came to while writing this is that proximity to remnant causes hallucinations, most likely even hallucinations that can be influenced by the children themselves. This is backed up by the easter eggs scattered all over in the first 3 FNaF games, and could be the cause of the aforementioned phantom animatronics. Perhaps the souls of the children were never directly in the room with Afton, they merely influenced his mind to make him think they were there... only to fade away as his mind began to deteriorate. It's not a foolproof answer, it certainly doesn't explain the thunderstorm for a week straight... but it's the best I've got.
@waffleboy474
6 ай бұрын
22:50 The 5 going into 1 could be Gabriel, Fritz, Susie, Jeremy, and Elizabeth going into Ennard which would be accurate if this theory is correct, but it makes less sense that it would be mentioned in pizzeria simulator than if it were referring to molten freddy, because Elizabeth is separate again by then. Considering the funtimes were designed to murder children, however, it's likely there are more than 5 souls in them - I doubt Elizabeth is the only victim. If there are more souls in the funtimes than those 5 then yes the story about melting down the keys does mess up the theory quite a bit I think Cassidy wasn't in the Sister Location bunker since Golden Freddy is never shown as being dismantled, there are only 4 endos in the furnace, and while Cassidy is present for one frame in give gifts give life, it's not that frame that is shown when Henry mentions "those you have carried in your arms." I like Sire Squawk's theory that Cassidy's soul became attached to Springtrap, maybe there's some weird soul splitting thing going on in follow me bc the endos have been removed but the remaining pieces of the animatronics left on the floor had parts of the souls in them? That could be why you can free their souls in fnaf 3 (parts of the costumes are at that location) - you'd be freeing the parts of their souls that exist in the suits for the fnaf 1 and 2 animatronics, and then the souls present in molten freddy are the results of the fnaf 1 and toy animatronics being melted down or something plus there's the fact that things are retconned without being obviously retconned and so it's hard to tell which things are fully canon
@-crazypotatolover-1487
6 ай бұрын
One thing, there’s no evidence confirming the minigames are reliable narrators. Another thing, No evidence that Fredbear & Golden freddy are the same suits. Purple representing black is debunked by the crying child’s suit, so perhaps Golden Freddy has a Yendo Endo
@ろうにん浪人
6 ай бұрын
What if the fifth is Charlie? The whole 5 keys thing, if it required her to split her soul she could have accidentally combined all of them spiritually. She's of course the 5th one there. The three stories all have good intentions, girl wants to save kids, the boy wants to put his cat back together, and the father wanted to put his kids to rest.
@BansheeScreams
6 ай бұрын
Peak content once again from GOATzone🙏
@GJames-Legend101
6 ай бұрын
Something else I think of when I hear 5 things becoming one is that there are five aftons (William, Mrs afton, Michael, Elizabeth and crying child), could this be foreshadowing something.
@thisnameanothername2156
6 ай бұрын
would be really interesting to what you think about Cassidy with moltenmci, given her very confusing nature
@thomasfan8889
6 ай бұрын
If Golden Freddy was meant to be part of the “5 into 1” that would immediately debunk it because of the Crying Child, right? That would be 6 souls into 1. If the 5 into 1 isn’t referring to Molten Freddy but rather Ennard, though, that would work perfectly. Not only do 5 souls (MCI - GFreddy + Elizabeth) become one in Ennard, but those 5 enter into 1, being Michael, entering inside (like the snakes) and being “stitched” together by the remnant of their 5 souls. This would still support the MCI Molten Freddy and gives credence to 2 of the candy cadet stories while also giving GFreddy the ability to be its own free agent apart from the rest, which the games seem to support over and over. The only hiccup is the fusing of 5 keys into 1 which saves no one. I still think ID’s theory mostly works as well. People forget that as long as the a theory doesn’t contradict other findings including it, evidence can have multiple usages. While I don’t think the Puppet makes sense anymore, William works well with the stories, possibly showing three different aspects of the story. He had the keys to free the kids (burn the remnant) but instead melted them into 1 key (to bring back one of his kids or to gain immortality, that’s up for debate) and frees no one. He feels guilt over his kids’s deaths and so shove the alive snakes into 1. He stitches together the remnant of 5 animatronics into 1 and it comes back alive. Granted, Baby was not part of the plan but it works to get the point across. Whether completely intentionally or not, William is responsible for the creation of Ennard and Molten Freddy
@oogadaboogle
6 ай бұрын
Honestly, MoltenMCI has more evidence than flaws, so Im going to confidently say the flaws are oversights, because if we do focus on the flaws we might overlook all the little tidbits that point us in this direction. For now, I believe in it, but I wont completely ignore these flaws, but MoltenMCI does make sense of what goes on regarding the missing children in fnaf 6
@tak4832
5 ай бұрын
Admittedly, i always thought the funtime animatronics were either new kids or the souls of dead security guards. The funtimes were designed to lure children, it only makes sense that they lured new victims, especially since fnaf 3 implied the souls were released and Fnaf world implied the perfect ending for fnaf 3 is cannon.
@Takejiro24
6 ай бұрын
Correction about the Boy, Snake, and Kittens story: the snake only ate 1 kitten. Also, I hear that Fire Temple music from TOTK 😌🤟
@MusiciansRule07
6 ай бұрын
I still very much believe in MoltenMCI but it's always good to acknowledge flaws in Theories, even those that have been as set as stone as FNAF allows. Great video!
@Iguanodon-fb7rs
6 ай бұрын
How the hell would the missing children be in the Funtime animatronics ? Elizabeth is in Baby, so there is one too much. Also, it just wouldn´t match to suddenly put someone like Chica´s soul in a Ballerina body all of the sudden.
@SuperStar-ss1pn
6 ай бұрын
20:37 What about golden Freddy? also why didn't he do it all at once? Also why did he bother leaving the shells if they also have magic soul juice
@AlienRino
Ай бұрын
The Isaac music goes so hard with this game series
@InkyDave1928
6 ай бұрын
so, i have an idea. i always thought the main 4 (Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy) was freed at the end of FNaF 3. so...what if molten Freddy is not an Ennerd variant....but a Golden Freddy variant. it would still make some of his lines referencing being multiple beings work, and would work with the FNaF 3 mini games. the reason we don't see Golden Freddy in the FNaF 3 mini games? they were in ennard. I'm not good at research, so if anyone has anything to add, please let me know.
@shadowstar1141
6 ай бұрын
Another flaw that I often think about when it comes to MoltenMCI is the Happiest Day Mini game in FNaF 3, where all the kids are at the table with cake, and they put on their masks, with Golden Freddy being the last one to do so. Also important to note that currently Im pretty sure the good ending of FNAF 3 (happiest day ending) is widely considered the cannon one. That mini game seems to communicate Charlie helping the spirits move on and finally rest and implies they are no longer possessing anything. Now I also do recognize though that FNAF 3 was supposed to be the last game, and that Scott was likely trying to tie up loose ends with it, and give the children a happy ending. Im also aware that (correct me if Im wrong) when asked about what the cannon ending to FNaF 3 was Scott replied with “its complicated” so the happiest day ending may have been retconned. Then again Im pretty sure he also said that only 1 thing has actually been retconned? Idk just something to think about
@sociallyineptsnapper
6 ай бұрын
Hey, huge thanks for being honest with the problems and holes. I havn’t been able to tolerate most of the theory community BECAUSE of the fact I feel like I can’t trust half the information I’m given. I personally think a lot of the fnaf lore is messed up from obvious rewrites and some not so great writing, but I also couldn’t lie and say I’m not invested in the comunity anyway. I could probably be more into it if more people were like you.
@loch1361
5 ай бұрын
One thing i don't understand is that the fnaf 1 souls were freed after fazbears fright burnt down and that's why the heads weren't glowing.
@FroststormFrenzy
6 ай бұрын
There's one problem with the 'confirmation' of MoltenMCI from Help Wanted. If you consider Help Wanted's four endoskeletons in the Ennard level, that would mean Ennard was formed BEFORE the classics were melted. And, you'd have to consider *Beacon Bonnie.* A secret animatronic in Lolbit's level, which is a damaged version of the *Original Bonnie,* still intact. The fact Bonnie is there means it's after Follow Me, and he's not melted at all. If you consider Ennard's level as 'confirmation' of MoltenMCI, Beacon Bonnie debunks it instead by simply existing. So, if you use Help Wanted as evidence, Cassidy's problem is then applied to Jeremy, because Help Wanted says he was still in Bonnie during Sister Location.
@mr.Arsene
6 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ I thought the MCI children were set free in FNAF 3
@PGF1892
27 күн бұрын
14:00 Why does everyone forget that bon bon is in there too 😭
@benruniko
Ай бұрын
I think its because Remnant isn’t the core of the Soul, just the “etheric vibrations” (as the old horror authors put it) of memories and events. A sympathetic effect of the departed true souls. So the ghosts and remnant are what is left behind by the people’s souls passing in agony and fear.
@someonerandom8511
6 ай бұрын
typing this as I go along with the video, so some things I might type out before you address, and then I forget to remove them. These are not meant to be counterarguments, but are just comments 1. Molten Freddy having the most amount of souls could simply be because it's made of three murder robots 2. the candy cadet stories don't hold up imo because molten freddy is the funtimes, which are 3 things, not one thing. Plus the fact that they are three separate stories makes me think otherwise, as it would be highly redundant. Besides, the stories have other details too. 3. golden freddy was never dismantled, and likely has a different endoskeleton due to being a springlock (you addressed this) 4. the furnace easter egg only has 4 endos (you addressed this) 5. I doubt that henry would know that the mci souls inhabit molten freddy. You could say that he was luring molten freddy in to burn them all so he must know, but paragraph 4 mentions criteria for the animatronics as heard in the tapes, so he's more likely just calling in whatever he can. If your point about william not being able to melt down the endos due to the minigames all being in one night is correct, Henry likely got them instead, as someone had to order the safe rooms being sealed off, and he wouldn't have done so if he wasn't there. Another possible explaination is that Henry simply brought the mci endos with him to the trap. taking points 2, 3, and 4, my idea is that mci could be possible, but if it is then the candy cadet stories are not related to it
@hbudson1248
6 ай бұрын
Personally, I think the other Funtimes would've had their own murders at one point or another, either through Circus Baby's or the rental service. I honestly fail to see why they'd, from a narrative perspective, be designed to kidnap and kill if they never ever do it except for Baby. I recognize the evidence for MoltenMCI, I just think there are a lot of holes in it. For example, most MoltenMCI believers think the other Funtimes were made long after Baby, using the classics. But, if that were the case, why would they all have features that interface directly with Baby, and more specifically with HER kidnapping/killing features (as seen in their Sister Location blueprints)? It seems to me like they would've existed for roughly as long as each other. In all, solid video, just wanted to share my thoughts on the theory as a whole for a bit :)
@ShardofWant
6 ай бұрын
What if bon bon and Freddy have the same identity chip, but different souls. Meaning there are 5 in ennard counting bon bon.
@aumberrandhawa6072
6 ай бұрын
I don't think Molten MCI has to be made from the follow me minigame. At this point we know Circus Baby's was around way longer than we thought and probably at the same time as Freddy's, and remnant is only a piece of the victims soul (yk a remnact of who they were lol) so it could also be that William put some of their soul in the Funtimes after killing them and the remainder is what possessed the classics. I saw another theory that follow me happens after sister location so it could be that William was trying to collect remnant after losing his previous supply to michaels scooping. idk i just thought of this while watching so its no fully fleshed out yet
@gab_maluco
5 ай бұрын
Kind of late but: Points supporting MoltenMCI: 1-If William was already springlocked by the time of SL then Micheal is talking to springtrap in the SL ending but if william was locked in the bunker then he couldn't have told micheal to go to the SL place...unless william knew what the souls could do and told micheal to do things for him before going to the fnaf 1 location WHICH COULD INCLUDE PUTTING THE MCI ENDOS ON THE SISTER LOCATION PLACE. 2-If MoltenMCI is true it explains a lot about the blob(aka tangle but i prefer the blob). We know the blob stole the parts of the main 4 animatronics and the main4 are inside molten freddy, if molten freddy = the blob then the blob would just be trying to 'put itself back together'. 3-The candy cadet story (especialy the third one) could be about henry burning the 4 kids + charlie(5th child in this case) and the knocking being the fire being a failure(which is confirmed somewhere, i think ultimate guide) Points aganis MoltenMCI: 1-If MoltenMCI is true how about the fnaf 1 and 2 firing having odor on it? If micheal became a corpe after the first 2 games then he wouldn't have a bad smell,right? 2-Wouldn't molten freddy be top priority because of the souls of the funtimes, i mean we know they can kill so what if they have souls themselves? 3-Not exactly aganist it but doesn't this delay happiest day to fnaf 6?(blob is an agony/remmant monster so it wouldn't need the mci souls)
@arekkusu_95
6 ай бұрын
but does remnant is the same as souls ? The endos could have the remnant and not the souls ? and also, golden Freddy is springlock suit but those could also have endos inside do they not ?
@Bofrab
6 ай бұрын
I’ve personally never really been the biggest fan of the MoltenMCI. I’ve always thought William Afton dismantling the Fnaf 1 animatronics was him getting rid of the evidence of his murders. Due to the posters in Fnaf 1 we know he was arrested, but they couldn’t find the evidence to convict him. So after he’s let go, he goes back to the restaurant and disposes the bodies, but causes the spirits to be free and get him Spring locked. Edit: I also don’t like how this theory basically retcons The Happiest Day minigame, and I feel like it’s the first instance of this series not wanting to let go of the past. Is it true or not? I’m not sure. Either way I’m just not the biggest fan of it.
@OutOfNameIdeas819
6 ай бұрын
No you're absolutely right. It is the first actual instance of FNaF not wanting to let go of the past and move on to new stories. It's funny how everyone loves this idea but when SB did something similar with Burntrap and Blob, everyone hated it. It makes no sense how this series can get away with this much bad storytelling and still have people wanting to actually solve its narrative.
@Bofrab
6 ай бұрын
@@OutOfNameIdeas819 I feel like the difference is that Molten MCI is solving something we don’t really know that much about, so it’s people filling the gaps with their own head-cannons. Is it true? We’ll probably never know, but people like the mystery and theorizing. But with Help Wanted saying the old games were “fake”, but then Security Breach having Burntrap, The Blob, and the ENTIRE Fnaf 6 location (including Candy Cadet) the game is basically saying “hey everything that happened in the other games? That didn’t matter. But also it does matter because William is still here, but he also isn’t.” It just makes this entire story so frustrating.
@Takejiro24
6 ай бұрын
@@Bofrab If it helps, Help Wanted saying the old games were "fake" was just a cover up by Fazbear Entertainment. The old games are still canon, in-universe events that actually happened potentially supported by a message you can find in Security Breach that read along the lines of, "Why did you reopen? We all know what happened to those kids!"
@Bofrab
6 ай бұрын
@@Takejiro24 I could also see that making fans wonder what is real or fake in the older games, but yeah your probably right about it all still being true.
@Parasilized
6 ай бұрын
my one disagreement for HW's evidence is one thing: nightmare animatronics. It makes 0 sense for there to be any knowledge of their existence from Fazbear Ent. no matter is you thjink they're illusions or dreams (especially dreams), it makes no sense for them to be aware of their existance.
@luluu0101
6 ай бұрын
you should check out Stormister's newest theory on Help Wanted and fnafs lore
@Benny1987x_best_rabbits_fan
6 ай бұрын
I don’t know why people say that help wanted proves moltenmci because the endos are in the furnace and ignore that ennard is in the minigame at the same time means that it’s impossible the funtimes are the classic animatronics because ennard and the endos are exist at the same time and why do people say follow me minigames happen in different nights??!! if you think about it it doesn’t make sense because why the animatronics don’t notice there’s something wrong in every night and why they only activate in different nights??!! why not activate in the same night
@OrbitalFrog_
6 ай бұрын
Wait, when do baby and the rest of Ennard argue? Please, I have never seen that
@DaeshawnKPeters
6 ай бұрын
I have one theory about fall fest the first one is it's a prequel game. That shows us the real startup date of fazbear entertainment. Along with showing us the first death in the series. My theory is that Fall fest was a joint venture. It wasn't fazbear entertainment just yet. It was the blueprint of how a mostly animatronic. restaurant amventure could be for the future. I believe the designs of baby and the fun time animatronics sun and moon. Along with the balloon boy variants. Were williams actual first designs for this concept. That got put on shelf along with the cloth costumes. After fall fest burnt down due to one of Henry's animatronics. My theory is that this was one of the straws. That broke the camel's back in William. He already didn't like Henry. Along with now their first big venture into this fazbear idea blows up. Probably causing distrust in the community. For this type of restaurant an idea. which I also believe may prove that fazbear entertainment. Wasn't Henry's idea in the beginning. I believe it was actually afton's initial concept and ideas. That peaked Henry's interest into doing this first experiment. With fall fest or another part of this idea. could be fall fest with a side project idea. That was tested in 1977 to see if the concert worked. Either or gets you to the same result. William remembering from all those years in the past. Pushes him to kill Henry's daughter out of revenge. Of the recent and past failures underneath the fazbear brand throughout the years. You wouldn't just explain the slaughter it would explain his whole motive. In the earlier timeline of fazbear entertainment. It could also show that William thought Henry was vain. think about after the first set of murders. The suspension of William killing them. Henry taking it into his hands to push acting out. May have pushed him even further. Because he's saying I started this idea and brought you on. It's not the other way around showing us. That William never thought of this venture as a 50/50 split. Will you solid as his whole and only idea. Just brought Henry along because he's great at robotics. Along with that chica's party world was doing better. This would make Williams home motive. Deeper than we thought it was and even then it was kind of deep.
@MatteoPicone-yy7pk
6 ай бұрын
Sorry, but of all the theories that there are, this is one of the most clears to me, why is this specific one the most confusing
@thisperson102
6 ай бұрын
Excuse me if I'm misinterpreting something, but isn't point #2 moot since only PART of their souls is attached to the endoskeleton itself? Isn't that kind of the point, or did I miss something? William Afton could've just broken out ENOUGH of their souls to have them appear. Only ONE of the souls actually ever DOES anything, the other four just watch.
@toastedsquare
6 ай бұрын
I just can't get behind MoltenMCI when there's so many holes in it. Only 4 spirits so Candy Cadet isn't referring to Molten Freddy, and the fact William comes back
@godzillaronispizzapalace6323
2 ай бұрын
Love the NSMB DS lava music
@masquaylathesplendid7516
6 ай бұрын
Personally, I dont like MoltenMCI because it takes away the individuality of a lot of characters, be it robots or ghosts. I feel like it paints the Funtimes and whatever ghosts they house less as distinct characters with their own complexities, and more as animalistic feral creatures that only think "kill🗣kill🗣kill🗣" You may argue that's the case, because of the Puppet's one line in UCN saying so, but the rest of the animatronics in that game speak at the same level of awareness. (If they speak.) Suzie gets a whole story in the Frights books, and thats the most detail of any of the MCI that we get. But oh well, I guess we'll just reduce them to juice for the plot. Regardless, characters deserve character. (Oh and back in the day, we interpreted "Follow Me" as Purple Guy destroying evidence. How that would still hold up, I don't know.)
@OutOfNameIdeas819
6 ай бұрын
Afton destroying evidence was way more narratively satisfying than him melting the MCI into juice to inject into other robots and I will firmly die on that hill.
@CornKaine
6 ай бұрын
I was never really a huge MoltenMCI fan, but two things I think are worth considering. 1. FNaF 3 heavily implies that the masks or suits of the characters, which if you recall were stated to have animatronic devices inside of them independent of the endoskeleton itself by the phone guy, are also partly possessed. This is also further worth noting keeping in mind the fact that the phantoms aren't present enough to kill you, only partial soul presence similarly to how they appear in the springlocking minigame where they can seemingly only scare Afton. 2. Storms often last for multiple days even if they periodically lighten up. I think it works, but I'm not fully prepared to say it's reasonably confirmable even with the presence of the obvious hints in HW1 and Pizza Sim. Quick edit, I just realized as I was re-reading this, the blob literally has the classics inside of it, at least their suits. How much more obvious can you get then that?
@doomlord0773
4 ай бұрын
I think cassidy may fix the some of the flaws with the theory. We know cassidy somehow has more power over the others, even to a point where they can sort of force them to be in ucn. Cassidy is selfish, and probably pulled their souls to deal with afton, and then let them go back to their suffering when he got springlocked
@kingkoopa64
6 ай бұрын
I just like to think scott made molten freddy just to relive his old desolate hope days, and we been rambling about nothing
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