Tom, Great mix of some good stuff, thanks for the tip on stone reconditioning! From the looks of your "chip control" sneak peak, I have the feeling it going to be good!!! Thanks for sharing, Ray
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Ray, It was really a test to see who watched the video to the very end. Congrats you made it. Cheers, Tom
@MrShobar
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. The Pilgrim Colony in America nearly died out due to the failure of the party to include sharpening stones on their voyage. Since their tools (plows, scythes, axes, knives, etc.) rapidly became dulled, they actually risked famine. Accordingly, they embarked on a search for usable materials locally, and actually sent back word to England to send some to the Colony.
@StraightThread
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting bit of history. I'd never heard that.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Shobar, That is an interesting story. Where did you come on this interesting bit of history? It almost sounds like an advertisement for Norton abrasives. Not that I doubt you but its an excellent advertising tag line. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Tom
@scheppach69
10 жыл бұрын
Shobar would that would be FedEx's first international job then? ;-)
@Abom79
10 жыл бұрын
Nice "chip control" there at the end. I guess thats a peek at whats to come. Good tip on cleaning up the honing sticks. I cleaned a couple of mine today when I got home. Thanks for showing us a peek into the day job work. I liked that boring bar set-up, and you give me a good reason to invest in that Big Boy Noga. Good video. Thanks for sharing with us bud! Adam
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Buddy, That was 7/8 on the diameter. More to come on that one. Wait for a sale on the Noga. Its a big boy with a big price. Just what Dr Abom needs for his patients. Talk to you later. Tom
@blazemaestro1
10 жыл бұрын
I'll be damned lol, those diagonal cutters that you bought with the round dots on the handle...I found a pair of those exact cutters in the road by my house about 2 weeks ago.
@sladroznik
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the meatloaf videos, keep up the good and interesting work! A new thing, when you have a sharpening stone that has broken, oddly enough, clean the joint well and put super glue on it, realign carefully, stick together and AHA! nearly good as new. Quite strong, even compared to new.
@oxtoolco
9 жыл бұрын
slad roznik Hey Slad, I'll have to go out in the shop and drop one so I can try your clever trick. Thanks for sharing. Cheers, Tom
@rchopp
10 жыл бұрын
Tom, I would agree I think your diagonals are snap-on I have some that look just like it. Thanks for another fine Monday night meatloaf, I had mine for lunch..
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Randy, I looked in the catalog but couldn't find that particular grip. It was the industrial catalog not the general. Now its going to bug me. Cheers, Tom
@wyattoneable
10 жыл бұрын
My first job was keeping a parking lot clean at a three screen drive in theater during the week end swap meet. That scooper brings back a lot of memories. I love swap meets! You found some nice stuff, and I enjoyed the other segments too.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Wyatt, You must have some scary stories about stuff you found. Lots of people just abandon their crap and leave. Cheers, Tom
@Buckrun11
10 жыл бұрын
Like the tip on the stones! I have cleaned them up many times but never thought about the diamond to true them up.
@k5at
10 жыл бұрын
Tom, Great meatloaf as always. One of the methods that I use to flatten stones is to rub two stones together, close to the same grit.. Using WD-40 as a lube. I used this method in sharpening chisels when I was furniture making. Of course most of my stones were Japanese Water Stones, and I used water instead of WD-40, I think I still have some up to 6000 grit. It was very important to keep the stones perfectly flat. Nice selection of stones you have there.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Herb, That works as well if you have two the same and are close in flatness. Cheers, Tom
@PeterWMeek
9 жыл бұрын
Check out an optics handbook. Two flats will tend to become concave and convex spherical when ground together. If you want to grind flats you have to grind three surfaces together in pairs. These two effects are used in grinding optics, like the mirrors for telescopes. Aren't waterstones usually flattened with a cast iron lap plate and a slurry of abrasive?
@Bookerb2004
10 жыл бұрын
It's a meatloaf marathon boys, Toms on a 30 week roll awesome!
@shakdidagalimal
5 жыл бұрын
7:35 "I almost got skunked" ( at the windy flea markets ) - Yeah... you're supposed to be out buying for Mom on Mother's Day...justice was served... (flowers if she's resting schmart alecks) (LOL - couldn't resist)
@SwitchAndLever
10 жыл бұрын
When you're using that small of a diamond hone isn't there a risk that you're taking the stones out of being true, rather than truing them up? Would it be better to use a bigger diamond hone which you could rub the entire stone surface on instead? Looking forward to the chip videos, those are some monster chips there at the end. Cheers! /Daniel
@DavidKirtley
10 жыл бұрын
It is a mix. If you true up the entire stone, you loose a lot of surface and have a lot of grinding to do. If you spot clean it, it can get off by a very small amount. That was a 500 grit diamond I believe if I remember the color coding so he is not taking of a huge amount. Flat stones are over rated. It doesn't make that much difference. The variations in the hand holding are much larger than the variations in the surface.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, Basically I am just removing a small amount of contaminated material at the surface. It would be better to use a larger diamond stone to maintain flatness or at least a similar flatness to the diamond stone. Cheers, Tom
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
David Kirtley Hi David, Well said. It basically a good cleaning. These are cheap aluminum oxide stones not big dollar imported waterstones from some sacred mine. Cheers, Tom
@SwitchAndLever
10 жыл бұрын
oxtoolco Thanks to the both of you. I see your point. Cheers! /Daniel
@BigMjolnir
10 жыл бұрын
Tom, thanks for the Monday meal! I like that little micrometer...less math means less chance for errors. That vinyl on the wrench looked home-dipped...you can always re-coat it if you like. Thanks for the demo of stone work too...useful to know. I wonder how well it would work on ceramic sharpeners? Have to try sometime. -- Mike
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, Diamond almost always wins unless its going up against other diamonds. There are big differences in diamond hardness. It will work well on your ceramic. I peeled the vinyl off the adjustable wrench. Its all happy and nice looking now. Cheers, Tom
@StraightThread
10 жыл бұрын
Interesting, as always, Tom. Carbide wet or dry paper held in place on a surface plate with a squirt of WD-40 works good for flattening stones, too.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, I used to do it that way until I tried the diamond. Takes a lot less time. Diamond is a gearheads best friend. Cheers, Tom
@eformance
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, I picked up a set of those Kraeuter pliers in the middle of the highway. They were rusted shut and had been ran over a couple times. A little TLC and gentle wire brushing and they were working like new again. A little tool archaeology proved them to be from 1912. They are far superior to many linesman pliers I've seen. If you look very carefully, you will see that the jaws never actually come together, they are tapered in a shallow wedge pattern. I think they are designed this way so that when the jaws are spread apart holding wire, they are parallel. I would guess that the jaws never come together completely so that the cutters can be sharpened more than once. I also notice a back bevel from the tip to the cutters, where wire can nestle into when being pulled straight with the pliers. Anyhow, I too have an old set of patinaed Kraeuter pliers
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Perry, I really like the Kraeuter stuff. I have a few pairs or pliers and they all show the attention to detail you describe. All the best, Tom
@Max_Marz
10 жыл бұрын
Honing stones! yes! I was just shopping for some...
@michaelrodriguez-fb8fr
10 жыл бұрын
Tom, thanks for the tasty meatloaf MMMmmm. All of your oxen are patiently waiting to see Chip control. That gap lathe at your work looks pretty interesting. its really cool getting the behind the scenes look at what your working on at work, from what i have seen on your blog you do some real hi tech stuff there. I had no idea that platinum does not oxidize, it looks like you purge welded it. thanks for sharing. Michael
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Michael, Thanks for the comment. The big lathe is a Turri from Argentina. Sliding gap bed. Real handy feature. Cheers, Tom
@ericcorse
10 жыл бұрын
The diagonal cutters are Snap On and they were called Vacuum Grip. IMO Kraeuter made the best pliers both pairs are outstanding
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric, They vacuumed right up into my goodie bag. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@chemech
10 жыл бұрын
I've got a couple of pairs of Channel-Locks that got exposed to brake fluid - the blue vinyl handles aren't quite as blue as they were when I bought them... Also, the varnish on wooden hammer handles does not respond well to motor oil... So, auto mechanics in particular can be less than thrilled with vinyl handles... That Etalon micro-rapid micrometer is something I don't remember ever seeing before... Cheers! Eric
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Eric, I peeled the vinyl off the adjustable wrench. It had that semi melty feel to it. Cheers, Tom
@drportland8823
10 жыл бұрын
You're using an automatic exposure settings on your camera where it is setting the exposure so that most of the image (i.e. more than 50%) is right. That exposure setting is for the whole image, not just part of it. If most of the image is dark granite, for example, it will try to make the dark granite work and blow out for nicely reflective metal or hands. So a better test is to do one carpet at a time rather than all three side by side.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Doc, Good idea. You will be seeing them in upcoming video's slowly getting dirtier and dirtier. Cheers, Tom
@krazziee2000
10 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video, thanks.
@bcbloc02
10 жыл бұрын
Triple the feed rate on that lathe and you will have the start of a nice "chipping hammer!" :-)
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, Took me a minute to connect the dots on that one. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@GaWajn
10 жыл бұрын
At about 27:00 into the video ... there is a clear chip gard mounted to a flexible arm. If the clear plastic was replaced with an opaque material you could use such a device to control light to remove glare on some video shots. They can be made big or small ... to suit the requirements of the shot. I agree with the comment earlier about the meaning of Étalon. In the horse or dog world ... it means Stud ... in the metrology arena ... it means gauge or reference to a standard. Good information on the stones. Thanks!
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi GaWajn, Thanks for the suggestion. Cheers, Tom
@bendavanza
10 жыл бұрын
Tom, the best color would be one that is as close to a mid tone as possible. Image it in black and white, you want a 50% gray. The camera looks at the overall scene and averages out the amount of light and tries to bring the level to 50%. This works great most of the time except when you have an abundance of light or dark areas that contrast your subject. Otherwise you would have to manually control the exposure. Thanks for another great episode!
@jaybird702mpw
10 жыл бұрын
Tom Those diagonal cutters are called vacuum grip pliers. I leave the googling to you.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Jay, Never knew these were sought after grips. Looks like there is a following. Thanks for the lead. Cheers, Tom
@WildoTheRubberFist
10 жыл бұрын
Recently I scored a Blake CO-AX Indicator for the low low price of 5$. needs 16$ in parts, dented bezel and broken crystal. It is usable and still vary accurate despite being mishandled and pawned. Gotta keep them eyes open.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi William, I sent by Blake back to Blake for repairs. Nice folks and easy to deal with. It works like a champ now. Cheers, Tom
@christopherlenahan3906
10 жыл бұрын
oxtoolco Just cruising through your meatloafs today lol. Good Vids. Just noticed what i believe tobe a ring mark. Smart man not wearing it, I know alot of old machinists that still wear em.
@PMPiper86
10 жыл бұрын
Well I would just try it and see how much I could cut per side. No video or anything. I have a channel. Just no videos. I guess I just enjoy watching more than recording. Haha. Ray has been trying to get me to start filming and posting videos when machining. One day perhaps. Keep up the great work Tom. Love the vids you crank out. Phil
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Phil, Better get busy. Were all waiting to see that Axelson in action. Cheers, Tom
@swarfrat311
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, We had meatloaf for dinner last night. I must say that yours is tastier! That was some heavy duty turning and boring you were doing! Your honing segment should have subtitled "Everybody must get stoned!" (Do you remember the late 60s or was that before your time?) Thanks for another meatloaf! Regards, Oxen Dave
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, I grew up in Berkeley in the 60's what do you think? Cheers, Tom
@jimm2099
10 жыл бұрын
Tom, I bought a Pike Krystolo straight razor hone from an antique shop 21 years ago. It looks a lot like the Norton at the bottom of your video, wood box and all, only the box has rounded corners and the stone has the Pike/Krystolo logo cast into it. The quality is beyond any hone I've ever seen. I did a search and one result compared it to a Noton silicon carbide stone. I was going to send you an email with pics, but couldn't quickly find your email address. Jim
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, Watch the beginning of the video again. Its on the whiteboard in the background. Love to see a picture of your hone. Cheers, Tom
@PMPiper86
10 жыл бұрын
thats a pretty healthy DOC. i may slide on over to the axelson at work and see how she spins, eh? haha
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Philip, Go for it. This is not limited to me and Adam. Were hoping some other guys jump in and show us their tricks as well. Cheers, Tom
@nraynaud
10 жыл бұрын
"Étalon" means gauge in French, or it could be "Étalon." short hand for "étalonné" ("calibrated"). I guess it has been calibrated in CH.
@Patroand
10 жыл бұрын
Yes, but because it's fast, could also meant a mustang horse 😊
@nraynaud
10 жыл бұрын
Robert Patoine Haha, I think the exact translation of "étalon" in the horse context are "stallion" or "sire". (they have the same origin since we compare the offspring with the parents).
@drportland8823
10 жыл бұрын
+GaWajn Ah, so basically light is like chips, and you use a chip guard to keep it from places you don't want it. Or possibly light is like a lubricant you squirt in places to get the best image possible. Or maybe light is like WD-40 and you can spray it on to float the crud off your video...
@TomWalterTX
10 жыл бұрын
Good meatloaf, as always. How much extra meat to leave before grinding? The 0.012" oversize seems like a lot (0.006" per side). I'll use A2, 4140, G2 Cast Iron for my "tools". Just want to mill slightly oversize, for future heat treat and grind when I get the tooling. (I had planned on making sure everything is square, and leaving 0.001 5" for final grind)
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, It depends on the tool steel and the geometry. Not much worse that not cleaning up when on size after all the machine work, heat treating and grinding that goes into a part. A little extra grinding stock is not a big deal. The old risk and reward situation. I do agree that for a simple 123 block .006 per side is probably a little much. Depends how good square and parallel your milling is. This was probably a student project so extra grinding is good for practice. Cheers, Tom
@pierresgarage2687
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, Liked the sequences from the big boring job, I would like a little comments and longer shots, just my preference... How about using some diamond files direct to hone the cutters, saves the cleaning and truing on the stones. You must have been some kind of a Hippie in the 60's with lot's of hairs, nude and smoking whatever with the Mrs. from the commune. What is the pitch on that quick Mike 3/4-10? I guess it can be repaired with common hardware store found screws... Pierre
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Pierre, I fell off on the other side of the hippie deal. No smoking not much drinking. Guess watching all those loaded adults didn't sit right. I should probably take that micrometer apart and check it out. I suspect a multi start thread or some high helix deal. Cheers, Tom
@pierresgarage2687
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, Curious about the thread too... Practical because FAST! My hippie years were more on the quiet side too, no regrets. Cheers, Pierre
@mikeadrover5173
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks’ Tom, Yet another outstanding video! I always learn something new at your channel. Thanks’ for taking the time to make this video! And I support this site. ~M~ PS: A “SH#!T load better than watching any TV channel, texting and so-on. Just get your hands dirty and learn something new!!! .
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, Right on! Get out in the shop and get dirty. The best medicine. Cheers, Tom
@andregross7420
10 жыл бұрын
Nice micrometer, would save a lot of time jumping between distances. Gee thanks for the teaser at he end, your evil!
@mclarpet
10 жыл бұрын
There's a word on the whiteboard that interests me - ROTAB ! They make a real man's tilting rotary table. I like the anvil you made, I look forward to seeing your surface grinder and those weird subtitles are back. Oh did you keep your jig borer ?
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Jester, The Rotab note is to remember to disassemble my small rotary table for a viewer that is interested in making one. I didn't know there was an actual brand called Rotab. Not sure what you mean by the weird subtitles. Could you give me more detail so I can search for the issue. Cheers, Tom
@mclarpet
10 жыл бұрын
Watch the video with the CAPTIONS turned on. They may be computer generated or someone is on some serious drugs at KZitem!
@dogbuggy32
10 жыл бұрын
tool patina is cool like an old colt single action..
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Dog, Well said. I don't see too many guys going at a Colt with a power wire brush...... Cheers, Tom
@mog5858
10 жыл бұрын
i like the sliding gap lathe is that you daily driver one? but there so heavy i seen one that is now out at the power plant it was solid no webbing or chip tray to speak of lol
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Mog, No in general the Turri doesn't see much use. We have three other lathes that get used daily in our model shop. The Turri is a tank. Cheers, Tom
@w056007568
10 жыл бұрын
I never knew that those diamond sharpeners come in different degrees of coarseness so I have learnt something else tonight!! I use diesel as a lubricant - is this wrong?
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan, Diesel would work as well. Some light watery solvent like material is all that's needed. Diesel is just a little too pungent for my delicate tastes. Cheers, Tom
@1jtolvey
9 жыл бұрын
EVER TRY (( BRASS )) BRUSH , HAND OR POWERED , IT WON'T HURT BLUEING EVEN , HOPPES # 9 , MELTS ANY BRASS RESIDUE LEFT , RUST = TOAST !
@mr16ga
10 жыл бұрын
Tom it looks like you are at the old NAS Alameda. They had some very nice machines there back in the day. Is it the swap meet down in San Jose you go to? You ever work at LLNL? Joe
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, The picture at the end is from Hunters Point. shipyard. Never worked at LLNL. Thanks for the comment. Cheers, Tom
@DieselCrawler86
10 жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, on a random side note. I wanted to ask you. How do you feel about Starrett moving the production of there Micrometers and other scales to Mexico?
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Diesel, Well I don't really like it but if it meant my company survived instead of going under I would do it in a heartbeat. I'd rather have them around than not. The world is changing fast and if you don't change with it you get left behind. Cheers, Tom
@z537z
10 жыл бұрын
Tom - does that rapid mic suffer any in accuracy because of its design? I'd guess that for a given amount of backlash in the thread this model would be 4x greater error. Tried it out on a gauge block?
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Z, This micrometer is not in that good of condition. I have used it and tried it on standards and it seems to repeat reasonably. It has a vernier as well that I failed to mention. I have to use it a bit more to make a better assessment. Cheers, Tom
@1jtolvey
9 жыл бұрын
(WET) OR DRY SANDPAPER CAN REPLACE DIAMOND STICK .
@tylercunningham3275
10 жыл бұрын
Very cool lathe, sliding gap bed? Manufacturer?
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Tyler, Its a Turri sliding gap bed lathe. Made in Argentina. Cheers, Tom
@nielsskov6328
10 жыл бұрын
how do you keep the stones when not i use. I learned that the stones shut be keept in petrolium when not in use. Is that wrong? Best regards from Denmark . P.s great videos keep them comming.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Niels, I have seen guys do that. Personally I don't subscribe to oil on the stones for sharpening and honing. I like them dry and clean. Cheers, Tom
@MrShobar
10 жыл бұрын
Is the space shown at the end of your video a hangar at the old Alameda NAS?
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Shobar, No. Its the steel fab shop at Hunters Point. Building 411 I think. Cheers, Tom
@Turnipko
10 жыл бұрын
9$+shipping for fishtail? Oh My God!
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Turnipko, It was a Starrett as well. $1.70 for shipping. They are $40 new. Cheers, Tom
@desmes62
10 жыл бұрын
Bonjour tom, Sous titre fonctionne bien ! Merci ;)
@franksalterego
10 жыл бұрын
Google: "die springs" Frank
@jeffmoss26
10 жыл бұрын
Another great video! I dig the mini anvil and flea market stuff. I always buy good used adjustable wrenches when I find them. Here's some info about Kraeuter: home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/kraeuter-company.html
@duobob
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Kraeuter link, Jeff. I have several Kraeuter tools, top quality, all still in perfect condition. They are my "go to" tools in each category. I guess tools that are made well and fit the hand like an extension of it tend to be taken care of...
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeff, Snag yourself one of those super wide diamond adjustable wrenches. They are great. Cheers, Tom
@jeffmoss26
10 жыл бұрын
I might have one already! I'll have to check.
@MatthewTang_trailcode
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the stone cleaning tip. I think my stones are really dirty, who knows how many owners they have seen. Please do not laugh at this commet :)
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthew, I just snickered a little. Your secret is safe. Tramp brand stones? Cheers, Tom
@MatthewTang_trailcode
10 жыл бұрын
Ahh, yes....
@silybily4471
10 жыл бұрын
Whats on next week Mr Wizard, how to clean your teeth and polish your shoes? I take it that it was not you working on that lathe.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Hi Bily, Why would you think that I wasn't running the lathe? Just because I was holding the camera? Each pass of the boring bar took either a half hour or one hour depending on roughing or finishing feedrate. Plenty of time to shoot a little video. I don't think a teeth cleaning and shoe polishing video would be very interesting to metalworkers. Have you tried Googling it to see if you can find some help? Cheers, Tom
@12345NoNamesLeft
10 жыл бұрын
What's with the flip flop back and forth between the topics ? This isn't TV, no need for that silliness.
@Keith_Ward
10 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's kinda what I thought at first. But then I figured Tom was just having some fun and mixing it up a bit for us and himself too. I don't need to compare it to TV anymore since I have mostly given up on it all and just trying to forget how bad it was.
@oxtoolco
10 жыл бұрын
Man, there is just no pleasing you guys. Some want it mixed up others get bored when the segments are too long. Jeez. Its too light, its too dark, waaa waaa waaa. Don't worry I still like you guys. All the best, Tom
@EnergyFabricator
10 жыл бұрын
You are right, it's not TV...it's Tom's channel... so he can do what he wants ... and you will learn to like it :)
@Keith_Ward
10 жыл бұрын
***** Most certainly! Thanks for the clarification if my wording was poor. I appreciate Tom's willingness to share and ability to explain. Some forums, none that I visit any longer, are just full of grumpy sourpusses where anything you ask or say is wrong.
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