Peter, you are correct there were mistakes made but FIA and Masi have been making them ALL SEASON! One HUGE MISTAKE is letting Toto and Horner call Masi the moment they think something is wrong. This is a BIG FIA mistake; how can Masi concentrate on all the input and talk to the stewards all the while listing to Toto and Horner quacking on??? This lobbying has to stop.
@t1328
2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it mostly Masi’s fault that there were so many inconsistencies all season? I’m asking because I legitimately don’t know. I thought part of his role as race director was to ensure that the stewards follow the rules consistently. If that’s not his role, whose role is it, and why do they still have this job? These mistakes and inconsistencies have happened so many times this season, that it’s been infuriating and I’m sure very frustrating for both Max and Lewis, and the rest of the F1 drivers.
@bigazTV
2 жыл бұрын
Every team mana gamer can talk to him don’t bring u dare make this only about Toto and Horner
@MasterSandman
2 жыл бұрын
Toto calling Michal Masi by his apparent nickname "Mikey" gave me shivers down my spine... 🤢
@seashackf1
2 жыл бұрын
@@t1328 F1 has ALWAYS been inconsistent. If anything it’s better now than when Bernie and Mosley ran it. Charlie’s conversations with the teams were never broadcast like this and he never had this kind of ‘pressure’/lobbying from them. Different stewards each race is by far a bigger issue.
@bryonkidder6199
2 жыл бұрын
The tone of Masi on the radio seemed like he was overly stressed about the situation. Red Bull smelled the blood in the water and increased the pressure by yelling & screaming at him...lol Masi was in a job that was over his head, he needs to be fired.
@Kemfii
2 жыл бұрын
Masi himself after the 2020 Eiffel Grand Prix where he extended the safety car period said that "There is a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past". Meaning that he has contradicted himself in his own ruling.
@milandavid6405
2 жыл бұрын
This should be used by mercedes in court
@Optimus-Prime-Rib
2 жыл бұрын
@@milandavid6405 they will.
@thomaslynch9016
2 жыл бұрын
@David Rubinstein well we all know who started the pts deductions lmao mad diving max... And that's fair since it's at the beginning of the race...
@thomaslynch9016
2 жыл бұрын
@David Rubinstein so u kno its becuz max drives Ppl off the course u didn't deny that which means u know max has poor wheel to wheel and isn't a fair racer... LMFAO
@japiekrekel5343
2 жыл бұрын
You mean like FIA contradiceted themself serveral times by giving Max penalties on things Lewis was free of penalties to do.
@LisztyLiszt
2 жыл бұрын
So many clear-sighted thoughts here, Peter. I've said it before and I'll say it again: on a "normal" race weekend, I don't bother with the build-up or post-race analysis on TV. After the on-circuit action, I switch the TV off, get on with my weekend, and wait for your incisive and succinct videos in the evenings. Many thanks, Peter. Looking forward to the build up to 2022 in 2022. Have a lovely Christmas.
@DM-mx9lu
2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@mike.tag.autosport
2 жыл бұрын
The smartest comment ever...🎯🎯🎯
@Firebolt1729
2 жыл бұрын
Wow a non toxic comment
@rogerbayley4394
2 жыл бұрын
I would have too, but now, after this fiasco, I've just cancelled my Sky subs. 20mins ago. If Masi is fired, I might try again. Thanks to Peter though, good job as always.
@kngbusy548
2 жыл бұрын
Masi knew that removing the cars would disadvantage Hamilton, but he was okay with it. The fair thing would have been to have Max fight the same traffic that Lewis had prior to the safety car. Lewis outraced Max and had the victory given to Max.
@AwesomeBryantStephen
2 жыл бұрын
For the season max is great but abu dhabi last race lewis won that race..clear
@alexsavul
2 жыл бұрын
it would have also been fair to end the race behind the safety car. I don't think either team would have protested that. red flags and a standing start with 4-5 laps to go would have also been fair and it would have fitted Masi's desired ending where Lewis and Max would have raced the remaining laps. Mercedes would have protested that but probably not officially since it's a matter of safety. so Masi had 3 option that would have been fair to both title contestants but he chose to create a 4th that put one of them in disadvantage. that's what you get when you have 2 team principals screaming at you like it's the trading floor on wall street
@erwinfischer
2 жыл бұрын
Then you should have done that all season. So lewis would have been a lap down on Imola and never been able to get second. They should have started removing on lap 56 but there they made the wrong call and they started to late and created this mess.
@aad9108
2 жыл бұрын
We dont forget silverstone and bottas. Max was the best over the season. So true winner
@waybay5237
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexsavul They can scream at him, but rules are also intended for stressful situations. Just follow the rules, which Masi did not do.
@CaptainVirgil
2 жыл бұрын
As usual, engaging, authoritative and beautifully clear. Thank you Peter for your continued objective commentary, much appreciated.
@martincday007
2 жыл бұрын
If this was ever argued in a court of law then Mercedes would win, however, it won't get to that as Mercedes will eventually reach the same conclusion that Lewis came to straight away, the race winner was decided by Masi. Masi doesn't need any additional resources, he could have had a team 100 strong but he would still need to know and apply the rules. Mercedes, Red Bull and all the commentators knew the rules, they knew in real time that Masi's first decision to not allow the lapped cars to be un-lapped was unusual, they knew that his final decision was very unusual, as did all the lapped drivers, and they all knew instantly that Lewis would be a sitting duck so the last lap race was always not going to be a race but a farce. Masi might be a stand-up guy who tries to do his best but he has through inconsistency and a lack of clarity become a punch bag and maybe that is because he is just not up to the job. Where is F1's equivalent of Rugby's Nigel Owens, someone who knows the rules and commands authority. If Masi continues in the role as Race Director next season that will be the FIA's next big mistake.
@waybay5237
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent post!
@catherinemorgan7836
2 жыл бұрын
💯% 🎯🎯🎯 👌 Massi is NOT fit for purpose‼️
@zatosan729
2 жыл бұрын
Martin Day.. Your comment is on point.
@Crayton10
2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Spot on!!!!
@sirrealreal
2 жыл бұрын
there is no court of law for this. that is what toto wolff thinks. so the statement that if this would ever be argued in a court of law is rubbish. a court of law is for civil law for instance not for own rules of a sports association; the court of law there is called the FIA. it is nice that merc fans cling to this kind of 'ifs' however they are not relevant. it is a non-argument. the call to get drivers that were lapped out was very late but not strange in itself. this is normal procedure.to my opinion the effect of a safety car in terms of a lead that can completely evaporate does not make any sense. that i think should be fixed.
@Milkydrummer
2 жыл бұрын
Lewis won’t be afraid of George. He drove round the outside of Alonso in his first corner of F1. Much as I love George. Lewis won’t be scared.
@ty567100
2 жыл бұрын
Oliver Court...Right HAMILTARD!
@michaela5430
2 жыл бұрын
@@ty567100 at least Hamilton is not a manufactured champion.
@DecibelDr
2 жыл бұрын
The danger of George is that he is British. Therefore if he does well, he could potentially take over the massive British sponsoring that is backing Lewis, thus undermine his position in the team and in F1 in general.
@aminkhalipe3162
2 жыл бұрын
The way Lewis fight max and almost winning championship…then George is not big deal for him …. Same statement we head in the start on 2021 season then at the end we see how Lewis bounce back
@neddoubarli3324
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Those who genuinely undermine Lewis talent have not watched his rookie season. I don't spend my time discussing with those who have seen his rookie season but still undermine his talent.
@andersonarmstrong2650
2 жыл бұрын
Peter Windsor has set everything out clearly and sensibly with candour. A credit to F1.
@MartiniPinball
2 жыл бұрын
And with a massive bias
@8oDiplomaticImmunityo8
2 жыл бұрын
@@MartiniPinball ?
@neilwilliams2883
2 жыл бұрын
@@MartiniPinball Please just stop.
@Conservator.
2 жыл бұрын
@@MartiniPinball How is Peter biased?
@therealjimshady100
2 жыл бұрын
@@MartiniPinball why? Because he's correct that lewis should have won the race and championship? It'll always be remembered as being won illegitimately which long term damages max's legacy. Its funny how redbull as so happy to win this way, it speaks volumes of their desperation to win by any means.
@drunkentigerindahood
2 жыл бұрын
Masi said in 2020 Eifel Grand Prix "There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past. “From that point, it was position six onwards that were still running [on the lead lap], so between 10 or 11 cars had to un-lap themselves. “Therefore the safety car period was a bit longer than what we would have normally expected.”
@jimmcgonigle492
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, thanks for breaking it down. As a not a Lewis fan, you were right on of how he acted after the race. Very impressed with him on that, he truly is an ambassador for F1 now. Looking forward to next year.
@Staticc146
2 жыл бұрын
Lewis showed why he is one of the best to ever do it yesterday
@Staticc146
2 жыл бұрын
@Lancom Kerr yeah a 7 time champ ain’t one of the best to ever do it
@Staticc146
2 жыл бұрын
@Lancom Kerr you do realize this isn’t Max first or second or even third year in F1 also the Merc was not the fastest car all year only in the last stretch was it the fastest car
@therealquaid1694
2 жыл бұрын
@@Staticc146 yes it was the fastest car all year. Lewis is just slow.
@clustrone
2 жыл бұрын
The best, most level headed and fair analysis of this whole situation. Thank you Peter. Having followed you for over a decade, I would expect nothing less! Cannot wait until next year and all of your videos to come.
@sithembisozulu6973
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t have said it better. I’ve watched dozens of analysts from this last race but no one has even attempted to put it as Peter has
@timwright4676
2 жыл бұрын
I would like to associate myself with these remarks.
@tidianediallo6860
2 жыл бұрын
Peter , just say it : #lewisHamilton was a robbed on live of the championship , by the rulling authority .... and i think we know who that is ... we love your show!
@steveh2869
2 жыл бұрын
Peter, Good analysis as always. Having followed F1 since 1976 (learning from your Autocar reports) I am still incredulous at the unprecedented decision the Race Director made. As I watched it, Lewis led for the best part of 57 laps and was clearly the fastest car in the race; Red Bull had effectively accepted they were beaten, although they were correctly continuing to try for any possible opportunity for Max to attack. The timing of the Safety Car was unfortunate for everyone, but Race Director took it upon himself to ensure that the race and championship would not end under a Safety Car (although following the safety rules should be paramount) and took an unprecedented decision to allow only some cars to unlap in order that ‘we must have a race’. I would argue the full unlapping should have happened (boring option #1), maybe artificial excitement could have been injected by leaving a Max shot with 5 lapped cars (exciting option#2) - but clearing a path for Max produced an inevitable change in order thereby gifting the win to a driver who at no time had led that GP (false result option#3). I concede that the Race Director is under immense pressure, but that is why he has a rule book to follow. Max drove well all season, but Lewis was robbed of the Race win by an error from the Race Director. One further point on following the Safety Car, I’d always assumed you had to be behind the car in front. I think Max has now set the precedent that it is now OK to drive right alongside and briefly in front of another car… unless this is corrected the potential for serious accidents is enormous under a Safety Car restart.
@bx8383
2 жыл бұрын
If you look at what Masi has done throughout the season, letting Max off the hooks for brake tests, dive bombing and deliberately trying to crash Lewis out, you can see that it wasn't a mistake by Masi. It's completely rigged. Anyone knows by lining up car with fresh tires against car with old tires, the outcome is known already. The only thing left to do was to set this scenario up, which was exactly what he did. He knew exactly what he was doing. Even going so far as letting only cars in between unlap? That's blatant cheating and there's a pattern all season long to stop Lewis from breaking the record. This is sickening.
@A2906-o8q
2 жыл бұрын
@@bx8383 that's more of a cry than an argument
@bx8383
2 жыл бұрын
@@A2906-o8q You make no sense. You are blind or in denial of you don't see Max getting help from Masi all season long. Nobody else can get away with what Max did. He the dirtiest driver in the history of F1, hands down. Illegitimate, undeserving title stealing cheat.
@A2906-o8q
2 жыл бұрын
@@bx8383 see still a cry😂, I bet you're British too considering you used the word "cheat"
@kevweegbegbedia2056
2 жыл бұрын
@@bx8383 well said , I totally agree with you. Just terrible and obvious.
@audigex
2 жыл бұрын
No no no please don't remove the FIA/Team radio. As a fan, it's my single favourite change to the sport in about 20 years, it's great
@alanhumberstone9989
2 жыл бұрын
All this is very well put are the FIA going to buy me a new television set!
@markonewolf4728
2 жыл бұрын
Here is my thought on this coming from a HONDA F1 Racing Fan who also happens to be a Lewis Hamilton Fan. I had nothing to lose this weekend as either way I would have been happy. Or So I thought. My issue with how things went is that only some cars were allowed to unlap seemingly giving the only advantage to MAX. There were at least three other cars that should have been un-lapped by my calculation and had this taken place I don’t see an issue especially if it is standard operating procedure. If the idea that following SOP would have resulted in a Safety car end of the race SO BE IT. Lewis was incredibly fast all day. Red Bull fought with team work and flawless pit stop and strategy that just didn’t pan out. Max made key mistakes that cost him the championship, Flat spotting the tires and starting on the Soft and making a bad start. So we want to erase all that because only the lapped cars that separated Lewis and Max were able to go through? It doesn’t seem very consistent and in my opinion is very suspicious. The W was all but handed to Max given the age of the tires compared to Lewis. I think it would have been more of a FAIR fight to let max get through traffic and fight Lewis I think it would have been massively better finish as I don’t know which way it would have gone, but the decision made seems only to favor ONE driver and that is my issue with it.
@raywalker4656
2 жыл бұрын
Well said Mark. I believe many of us feel the same way. This race resulted in a fraudulent result, the winner is currently tainted and will remain so in the history of F1, unless there is some redress for these events.
@MrMervenut
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter for your calm and informed reflections, I wasn't aware of the Charlie/Michael differing roles/expertise and it is very illuminating. For me the team bosses should not be able to call MM in the middle of an incident and lobby/whine whatever you want to call it. David Coulthard said at the end if the C4 show that there should be only one-way voice comm's, from Race Control to the Teams and the teams should have 3 reply buttons, "Acknowledged", "Agreed" and "Disagree"!
@ep1421
2 жыл бұрын
All good points BUT none of those explains or excuses easy Masi did. He set aside the sporting code to massively impact the race and championship. What happens to let the fight be decided on track not in the stewards room? He may not be a steward but he decided the title off track.
@soostdijk
2 жыл бұрын
@@ep1421 Why do people keep on whining? In the US it is forbidden to end a race under a yellow flag, F1 should have that too. Mercedes lost due to their mistake of not bringing in Lewis for new tyres under the safety car. There was enough time to decide that and then it would have been shootout on equal rubber, now Lewis was a sitting duck.
@robertblake1228
2 жыл бұрын
Sky F1 is a disgrace...Hill is so bitter...and now Peter too but.the only one doing his job was Masi
@ep1421
2 жыл бұрын
@@soostdijk the US uellow flag rule have nothing to do with F1 rule. Its not whinging is stating that the rules were not followed. In F1 when unlapping is allowed all the lapped cars are unlapped. They are then sent around the track to get back to rear of the main pack. Then the safety car does one more lap before returning to the pits. Masi decided to overrule that for one reason only. Second point, the lead car cannot pit, its too risky. RB could pit because they were lose nothing if it didn't work. Had Merc pitted and RB stayed out to inherit the lead and Masi did what the rule dictates then the race would have finished under SC given Max the win. If Masi wanted to be fear, he could have red flagged the race after the accident and give all cars the opportunity to get fresh tyres.
@amanda123889
2 жыл бұрын
@@ep1421 this is the most sensible summation of what happened that I have read.
@boydnorville7053
2 жыл бұрын
I love your common sense takes Mr Windsor, and I have a couple of points to add 1. The strategy employed by either team in this instance does not matter. The question at hand is not whether either of them chose the wrong or right strategy but whether fair and legal principles were followed in restarting the race. Mercedes cannot be blamed for their strategy if there was no fair platform for that strategy to be executed. 2. Mr. Masi took this job of his own volition. With the authority invested in him, he has to be held responsible for the consequences of his decisions. Mr. Wolff neither Mr. Horner are to blame. He alone had the final decision, he alone can be blamed.
@1406roland
2 жыл бұрын
of course point 1 is crucial! It's like Max at the start: we can argue about whether lewis needs to give position back, but really: Max just blew it at the start. That's the root-cause. In the last laps: not pitting Lewis was the rootcause. It was a mistake, fueled by fear. Fear that Lewis would have to pass Max in a do-or-die, or that the race would end behind the safety car. ROOTCAUSE. The rest is consequence. I understand all the emotions, I would be in the same anger if opposite. But let's face it: Mercedes has made too many tactical mistakes this year, and this is one of them (Lewis even pointed it out on the radio, and Mercedes explained their FEARS). Basta
@boydnorville7053
2 жыл бұрын
@@1406roland I respectfully disagree. There was no strategic Root cause to debate because it wasn't the choice of pitting or not that doomed Mercedes, it was the absence of proper procedure and protocol by Masi that made them lose. That final lap should never have happened the way it did and that is the issue. Either ALL the lapped cars should have been allowed to pass, which would have meant the last lap wouldn't have happened (or alternatively, at the least brought Sainz into the equation), or none of the lapped cars should have passed, which would have given Lewis a head start. Now the result may have been the same with option 2, but we'll never know now, will we...? The point is the race director removed the opportunity for us to see whether Mercedes's strategy would have worked. Anything that actually happened AFTER Masi's illegal action is now null and void. I'm sure that will be Mercedes's argument. Masi controls the 'use' of the safety car, which can only mean he gets to choose WHEN to use it. To assume he gets to decide what goes on BEHIND or DURING the safety car, regardless of the rules, is tantamount to chaos. Once he initiates the 'use' of the safety car, the rules then give the protocols that must be followed, not Masi.
@renegerritsen6178
2 жыл бұрын
@@boydnorville7053 I disagree, respectfully. Had Mercedes pitted Lewis, he would have won the race, certainly. Both teams took a gamble and yes, that gamble was easy for Red Bull: if they got it wrong, they would not lose anything as they would still finish 2nd. Worst case scenario: 2nd place, best case scenario: victory and the driver championship. Mercedes had more to lose, but as we saw many times this season, they relied heavily on the simulation results the computers gave them. You could hear Lewis immediately question the decision by asking why they hadn't pitted him. I understand he does not have all the information, but Mercedes' reliance on simulations goes a bit too far every now and then and it catches them out. Now, I don't know whether there was time to let all lapped cars overtake the SC before it came in. Possibly yes, but it took quite some time between the "track clear" signal and the "lapped cars may overtake" signal to be given. I just can't see how all lapped cars overtaking would have helped Lewis change the outcome.
@1406roland
2 жыл бұрын
@@boydnorville7053 you make some fair points. However, under the assumption that it was an 'illegal' move from Masi (as you put it). The rules are difficult but what I understand from several video's; Masi has the right to decide and overrule things. Secondly; I believe Mercedes was wrong the whole race in their defensive strategy. They didn't have to go in when Max did the first time around. But afraid to lose track position. Attack is the best defence they say. The last pit-stop is confusing (I think to all?). But I stand by my case, that Mercedes should have pitted Lewis for a new set of softs so he has a fighting chance, being the hunter instead of the hunted (which is always the better position in such run-downs). But I respect your view and opinion.
@Johnny-Too-Bad
2 жыл бұрын
@@1406roland no he does NOT have the right to overrule anything no idea where you've gotten that from but I'd love to see it if you have a source. He directs the sporting event, not the rules, not the interpretation of the rules and not half implementing rules as they are written. If he could overrule any of those things, then it's not a rule is it?
@mateusbez2669
2 жыл бұрын
Great, great take on the resources available for the race director. It seems all of this could have been avoided by a simple act - allowing the cars to unlap themselves one lap earlier. Masi himself admitted he hadn’t looked at it because he was all focused on cleaning the track.
@abuphonmanitip7899
2 жыл бұрын
That is what I expect as well. He realised too late he should have send the cars through. When Horner asked why lapped cars were not allowed to pass, he said he was too busy having the track cleaned. But Horner's request seemed to make him realise he had to do it, as the cars got the message to pass.
@johncooper4187
2 жыл бұрын
@@abuphonmanitip7899 but not all lapped cars, all drivers should be treated the same. Rule and custom and practice is the Safety car should come in the lap after the lapped cars are released. This idea that the race director can ignore the rules as he sees fit is not actually in the rules. If Merc take it to court they most likely would win, even the statement the FIA put out to justify Masi’s actions contradicted itself. I suspect the FIA are trying to string arm Merc into dropping their appeal.
@thevoiceofreason4104
2 жыл бұрын
Masi would not need extra resources if he simply did his job and applied the rules . As written. Consistently. To all drivers. It's not rocket science. The only problems arise once he tries to manipulate results to reach a specific result in the middle of a fast-moving race. His mendacity was immediately exposed through yet another clumsy attempt to gift Verstappen the WDC. Masi is not naive - he calculated that the ONLY way Verstappen could win is by doing exactly what he orchestrated: eliminate the cars between Hamilton and Verstappen, forbid other cars from unlapping themselves and *immediately* get rid of the safety car. For him to then claim the what he created was "racing" is some pretty impressive Orwellian doublespeak. This was Masi loading up and giving Red Bull a machine gun to go shoot fish in a barrel. For the sake of the sport, Mercedes simply *must* take their appeal to the highest court and expose to all how corrupt F1 has become.
@MFitz12
2 жыл бұрын
@@johncooper4187 - Article 48:12 was not ignored. Article 48:13 was invoked which supersedes 48:12.
@terthaankardas987
2 жыл бұрын
@@thevoiceofreason4104 absolutely, you nailed it.
@suryacoapy5129
2 жыл бұрын
I think it would’ve been a fairer and better outcome if Masi had red flagged the race and had a standing start with Lewis on fresh soft tyres. As it turned out, the race was decided by luck and decisions that were possibly erroneous. It wasn’t decided by driving skill or car speed. The winner was not the better driver on the day.
@bigazTV
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely erroneous
@jjg19631
2 жыл бұрын
Neither happened at Silverstone. You win some, you lose some 😊.
@figu26
2 жыл бұрын
Probably tut most reasonable thing they could have done.
@pauldonatantonio7785
2 жыл бұрын
The post-race dignity displayed by Lewis has done more to elevate him above Schumacher than winning an 8th title would have done. Sir Stirling will be smiling in his grave.
@deebow6486
2 жыл бұрын
Why has he always to be above Schumacher or Senna or Prost? Every champion is a champion in his own style..
@deebow6486
2 жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 12 year old kids opinions doesnt count. Only ex-champions are in the position to decide "who's the best".
@crambo765
2 жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 the thing with sports is there can never be a greatest only best of that generation. That’s it, the greatest ever argument is fucking dumb. Hell the greatest driver ever maybe drove for a year and was killed 60 years ago. There is no way of comparing divers using different cars at different time against different competition. Lewis will never be seen as the greatest due to lack of competition. We will never know because the Mercedes’ car was so much better than everyone else
@Gez492
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent point
@BamBoomBots
2 жыл бұрын
@@Taz1451 I've seen the occasional 'Max is better than Lewis' or other statements like that, but no Max is the GOAT. 'Lewis is the GOAT' is something I've read regularly though. I personally think it is impossible to compare drivers from different era's though. Different machinery, different driving standards, different training, different tracks, everything. Probably, almost any driver on the current grid would beat Senna, even Mazepin, and definitely someone like Fangio, in the current machinery. But those guys never drove these machines and they did not train like the modern drivers do. So direct comparison is impossible. All one can really say is that any driver who's at the top of the grid for multiple years, is doing a great job.
@briandavies7515
2 жыл бұрын
You can't change the rules just because you don't want the race to finish behind the sc,that's what had to happen under the rules and as for a precession that's what thay had all race with Lewis ahead of Max.
@ahelmste
2 жыл бұрын
Totally. They didn’t have a problem beginning and ending under a safety car at Spa and giving a win and points to a driver that never raced.
@haroldasraz
2 жыл бұрын
Over the 2021 season, Max has had 10 wins, 10 pols. Lewis has had 8 wins and 6 poles. Arguably Max had worse luck up to this point with a tyre blowout, Silverstone crash. Red Bull has been braver with tactics and worked better under pressure. Though, let's be honest everyone is a winner with great exposure to the sport. New fans. Lewis now has a world champion that he can compete with next year if RB and Silver arrows manage to develop their cars well. It's all gravy.
@haroldasraz
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future AI Masi?
@wilbyvanbragt5210
2 жыл бұрын
If Max was just as lucky as Lewis, the season would already be over before the last race..
@haroldasraz
2 жыл бұрын
@@wilbyvanbragt5210 indeed
@jeroendejong8449
2 жыл бұрын
1. The rules says that not all cars do un-lap themselves. 2. When the track is clear and there is still 1 lap to race, we will race. That was the wish of all teams (including those of Mercedes) expressed at the start of this season.
@roppenzo3121
2 жыл бұрын
exactly.
@F1Guy-Guy
6 ай бұрын
Wish is not in the rules and its irrelevent to why Masi broke them
@43ten43
2 жыл бұрын
This championship will always be tainted and will always have an *asterisk next to it, unfortunately. Max and Lewis put on an incredible show for the entire season, drove their hearts out, and gave it 100%. The same can be said for Red Bull and Mercedes. But to end that season like this is just unthinkable and fair to no one. It's not Lewis or Max's fault. But for Max, this championship will always have baggage with it. And for Lewis, it will always be "he should be an 8x WDC" or, he is a "7+ WDC". Its one thing for Lewis to have lost his first WDC by 1 point, only to win his first by only 1 point the following year due to crazy race conditions. But for the race directory to make an illegal call that effectively dictates the end result... that is such a devastatingly poor way to do it. Max was deserving. Lewis was deserving. NO one deserved what we all got.
@cameronski77
2 жыл бұрын
I agree to some extent, but basically every championship has an asterisk about it. For example, Massa would have won the 2008 title without crashgate. It's a massive shame it had to end like this, but the way I see it, if they let lapped cars through on lap 56 (as they should), they catch the others on lap 57, race restarts on lap 58 with the same result but no controversy. Having said that, it's very cruel to Lewis and Masi should resign after such a big mistake
@jaidi130
2 жыл бұрын
So best idea at the end no verdict decision champion 2021... Because here Lewis get the gamble so I think we should ask Lewis what he decide to do if the international court give right to Mercedes..
@43ten43
2 жыл бұрын
@@cameronski77 True, to decide the championship on an error is just unforgivable. The "better" error would have been to red flag the race on lap 57, have both cars on new softs, and a true/fair 1-lap shootout. If Masi was thinking of "putting on a show", that's what he should have done. Albeit, it's not his job to "think of the show". Totally agree, Masi should resign. He's a bright man (per Peter), but it's his only choice now..
@43ten43
2 жыл бұрын
@@jaidi130 Yeah, it's a very tricky and unfavorable position for both Lewis and Max. Neither one wants to win this way, I would assume.
@jaidi130
2 жыл бұрын
@@43ten43 this situation is really bad but somehow this have to be result before the new season and the image of both driver now is changing I mean last time we saw Max was champion let say like this, and Lewis not!! But if the international court give right to Mercedes !! Everything change again the images of Max will be destroy totally 👌.. But Lewis was 8 time world champion, and somehow Masi take it away..🤔, so Better at the end not giving this world championship 2021!! Like this nobody will lose or win but equality balance 👌
@LisztyLiszt
2 жыл бұрын
I think there should be a rule that says if you lobby the race director, both your cars get a 5 second penalty.
@Tj930
2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😄 👍But then barristers will argue about the definition of "to lobby"
@LisztyLiszt
2 жыл бұрын
Having barristers in the paddock is a weird flex, but if they are there in a professional capacity they should be made identifiable by wearing a "mein gott muss das sein" t-shirt.
@leucadendron007
2 жыл бұрын
Both teams would have a the penalty then
@LisztyLiszt
2 жыл бұрын
@@leucadendron007 There are 10 teams.
@SamuelSantos_
2 жыл бұрын
There would’ve been nothing wrong with the race ending under the safety car. The 2012 title decider between Seb Vettel and Fernando Alonso ended under the safety car, and 2012 is considered one of the best seasons in history and no one complains about that title decider ending under a safety car. Masi used his overriding permission for the sake of the spectacle as opposed to following the FIA’s rules properly. They either should’ve waited for all the lapped cars to make their way around, in which case the race would’ve ended under the SC, or they should’ve told the lapped drivers to go past earlier, in which case the result would’ve likely stayed the same. Or they could’ve not let the lapped cars un-lap themselves.
@easternwoods4378
2 жыл бұрын
Or stopped the race
@nathaneastmure
2 жыл бұрын
@@easternwoods4378 I agree. I think a red flag would have satisfied all needs in this situation
@muhammad.mohsen
2 жыл бұрын
Given that the entirety of the current technical regulations were formulated to improve the show (better-looking, faster cars with friggin' sparks flying and trumpet exhausts), I fail to see your point...Standing starts after red flags were introduced to improve the show...The list goes on!! The main argument of 'the rules were broken' is just an opinion...An opinion that's not shared by the actual stewards and the race director! No matter how much you reference the regulations, it'll always be an opinion (unless the courts deem it otherwise, I guess)
@samleary2733
2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammad.mohsen this comment right here. This is what’s wrong with current formula 1. That the rules are so vague that not everyone agrees with what they say. Massi may very well have done everything by the book. He also may well have not followed the rules. But because it’s not clear, we may never know
@RichardHartley65
2 жыл бұрын
@@muhammad.mohsen - if you read the relevant regulations, it’s pretty hard to see how Mercedes could lose this in court. Of course the FIA’s stewards have ruled the FIA’s Race Director to be in compliance. But no objective reading of the regulations would lead to that conclusion.
@seretsemompei9605
2 жыл бұрын
As usual, great analysis Peter. Lot's of questions answered for me in terms of the way forward after this epic mess! But nobody really knows how this particular chapter will end. Keep doing a great job, don't always agree with you, but you have an incredible and credible amount of knowledge!
@rogerbayley4394
2 жыл бұрын
Well actually I do agree with Peter here and bow to his experience. The race was badly handled. Max needed a win, but at not at any cost! This was a weak result for Max and the sport. For me it'll never be undisputed. I have been a supporter of Max from Brazil 2016 but this was the most diappointing outcome possible on Sunday and possibly for many years to come. I feel sorry for you Max. Please drive hard, but fairly in the future. Try and be the absolute best and follow Lewis's example if you want the respect you truly deserve.
@thestranger3588
2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerbayley4394 It is true, Max will always have an asterisk next to that win, at least for me anyway.
@toinegeesink6502
2 жыл бұрын
Mercedes gambled and …. The rest is history. Framing Max as a cowboy on the track all year and, because of that, not willing to give up the track position in the last race, has cost them big time. They knew that staying out there with old tires could put them in a very vulnerable situation. Lewis is a generational driver and he new this was the case when you listen to the board radio. This was one of the only few decisions of this season that turned against Mercedes and now everybody is pointing to the “refs”. Well, the rest of the world knew this much earlier but nobody listened. And now, all of a sudden, everything needs to change. Please note that half of the stewards were from Germany (Mercedes) and the U.K. (Lewis). Kind of strange, isn’t it? I suggest to have an objective view when implementing the new rules so that everybody can enjoy this great sport.
@LisztyLiszt
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to hearing this
@supaG-1.0
2 жыл бұрын
Ending the race under green flags, whilst preffered, shouldn't be forced. An incident or SC can occur with just 2 laps to go. It would be impossible to clear the track and get racing just for those 2 laps. The regulations and procedures are there to ensure safety and fairness, not to put on a show. Oh and lovely vid as always Peter, a pleasure to hear you insightful thoughts.
@aesir1ases64
2 жыл бұрын
the teams agreed to do everything in their power to end the race not under yellow flags
@supaG-1.0
2 жыл бұрын
@@aesir1ases64 Yes. My point is that there are going to be situations where they simply can't.
@Ningishzidd4
2 жыл бұрын
Except of course, when it benefits your favorite driver. In that case you will turn all of your arguments upside down and argue it was the right call to end the race on green conditions.
@supaG-1.0
2 жыл бұрын
@@Ningishzidd4 it's not about favourite driver. It's about adhering to the rules so that we have fair competition. Otherwise the sport becomes a show and looses credibility. I would have loved to see the midfield runners going for it in the last lap, but we were denied this.
@supaG-1.0
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 Not if they had followed the rules. Allowing only some of the cars to unlap and calling the safety car in immediately is the only reason we got the last lap. The cars behind Max should have been allowed to unlap too. Sainz should have had the chance to fight for second.
@MASAo7
2 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that a one-sided one lap sprint race is considered more important to the spectacle than the preceding two hours of actual racing.
@PatQuakernaat
2 жыл бұрын
Ironically Mercedes was one of the teams that pleaded to NOT end races under a red flag .... at the very start of this season. Everyone wanted to decide it on track, Max kept it clean. Lewis should have pitted ..... twice! Just a shame none of the (Brit) press, including yourself, went to these lengths when Max was launched into the wall. Get over it, Lewis shook hands and congratulated Max, time for all to follow his example and enjoy the beauty of F1. NEVER did F1 have so many viewers and emotion.
@Shaun.Stephens
2 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that a brilliant season ends with an inept decision from Masi which gifted the win and WDC to Verstappen.
@Shaun.Stephens
2 жыл бұрын
@David Rubinstein I'm not 'mad' and I would have been fine with Max winning it without Masi's help. Max is a great driver.
@mikethomas5400
2 жыл бұрын
@David Rubinstein strange little man.
@OPortuguesfm
2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that as soon as Latifi crashed said that was a Red Flag? I was obvious that there were not enough laps to clear the incident and then we would have had 4/5 laps with all on soft's for a perfect season ending, title decider, race
@lionking5687
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Go apply for race director!
@JohnR31415
2 жыл бұрын
Nope, I said it about ten seconds after the SC was deployed. A four lap sprint with both on fresh tyres would have been an artificial, but fitting, end to the season.
@OPortuguesfm
2 жыл бұрын
@@lionking5687 would not mind, my CV is not the worst 😅🤷, but Im sure there are better options if they want to change
@OPortuguesfm
2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnR31415 exactly, but after the SC they could not do it, they needed to go straight to red flag, they could not do the same mistake again
@howardleckey2089
2 жыл бұрын
Thats a really valid point and seems most correct, safe and fair to all competitors. Nice job!
@fredericktennant9151
2 жыл бұрын
With the amount of rules what went unanswered over the season I suspect that Lewis was never going to win the championship but by ignoring the rules which was set years ago the following season will be a mess.
@erwinr9328
2 жыл бұрын
It's not as if Verstappen had any luck. Tbh Max should've won it in Qatar if it was a regular season but we all saw it wasn't🤣
@andrewtolbert2112
2 жыл бұрын
I hate to say it ,but it is as clear as black and white
@abhinavgaur13
2 жыл бұрын
FIA should bring back the gravel traps and do away with this business of run off areas. This has brought in too many ways to bend the intent of the rules and hence bringing human subjectivity of race stewards into play.
@wildlive1296
2 жыл бұрын
100% correct. Since the stewards have proven unable to provide consistent rulings, take it out of their hands.
@Schilliebillie
2 жыл бұрын
100%!
@dietpepsivanilla3095
2 жыл бұрын
Once again Peter delivers an honest, fair and unbiased opinion. Shoot, I take Peter as fact.
@VANITY80
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of salt and cope from the British world from pundits to fans is delicious. Short memory and partisan commentary. Delicious.
@solidoperative
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, any thoughts on what Masi said after the Eifel GP in October 2020, where he said ”There’s a requirement in the sporting regulations to wave all the lapped cars past,” to Motorsport Week and it's possible bearing on the appeals?
@timneat4085
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely zero consistency
@SmashGhost
2 жыл бұрын
"Any" cars. Not ALL cars.
@daz4355
2 жыл бұрын
@@SmashGhost cars not car
@solidoperative
2 жыл бұрын
@@SmashGhost How many times have you posted that today...
@dworkin7110
2 жыл бұрын
I think it is reasonably clear that the intention and "spirit" of rule 15.3 (e) is not to give the race director an overriding authority over all rules for no valid reason. Rule 15.3 (d) gives him control over the starting procedure. Does this mean he can change the start order of the cars on the grid? Does it mean he can start the race when only half the cars are at the grid?.
@RichardHartley65
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. This is the massive flaw in the Steward’s decision. 15.3 - when taken in context - is actually to show that the Race Director ranks above the Clerk or the Course when it comes to various aspects of race control. It’s most definitely not a green light for Masi to just make up the rules about when and how to withdraw the safety car. Article 48 has been carefully drafted with very detailed rules about the use of the safety car and those regulations are most certainly supposed to be binding on the Race Director. He clearly didn’t apply them and Mercedes would therefore seem to have a very strong case.
@RichardHartley65
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 - 48.12 states “… *any* cars that have been lapped by the leader will be required to pass the cars on the lead lap and the safety car.” Note it says *any* cars not *some* cars It goes on to say: “…once the last lapped car has passed the leader the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the *following* lap.” It does not say the safety car will return the pits as soon as some of the lapped cars have passed the leader. Masi was making it up as he went along, based on his (understandable) urge to get the race underway again. In doing so, he ignored the regulations and made himself look incompetent.
@dworkin7110
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 48.12 is pretty clear.. Any car that has been lapped by the leader is required to pass the safety car. "Any" has to mean all in this case otherwise it wouldn't be followed by "required" Unlapping selected cars is not in the spirit of the rule in my opinion and AFAIK has never been done before either. This was blatant manipulation of the race by mistake or otherwise. Both drivers were worthy Championship winner and deserved reasonably fair and unbiased race. We ended up with a joke of an ending.
@dworkin7110
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 As far as I am aware the purpose of rule 48.12 is to effectively reset the race following a safety car incident so that the (clearly) slower cars do not get in the way of the front runners. This serves the purpose of helping to avoid crashes between faster and slower cars when the race gets back under way and also to allow the front running cars (not just the first two) the ability to go racing again. None of the rule are there to create unfairness. They are supposed to be there to do the exact opposite.. Allowing only selected cars to unlap themselves broke the rule. Even the FiA's argument for dismissal of the complaint doesn't avoid this fact.. they just claim that 15.3 covers this eventuality. Personally I don't think it does but rules and laws are always open to interpretation.
@dworkin7110
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 Arlet. The purpose of the rule was never to disadvantage any driver. If a driver becomes disadvantaged because the rule was followed.. well that's tough (and has happened many, many times in the past). However the rule was not followed correctly and was therefore applied unfairly. Remember that Mercedes chose not to pit Lewis because they expected rules to be followed, they either expected Lewis to win under the safety car because there wasn't enough time to unlap all the cars or assumed that lapped cars would not be allowed to unlap themselves and therefore there would be cars between Max and Lewis. In fact Masi himself in the Eifel GP stated that ALL cars are required to pass. He broke both precedent and the rule itself (in fact he broke the rule in two places because he brought the safety car in a lap early too). IF Mercedes had been aware in advance that the rule could be ignored (bent) then they may well have chosen to pit Lewis onto softs. RB may or may not have pitted Max to do the same..
@fredherfst8148
2 жыл бұрын
Masi's job is horrible. Having to deal with Toto and others yelling at him the whole time. Agree 100%.
@kityhawk2000
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe so but if he can't do the job he shouldn't be there. This isn't a job for beginners or to learn as you go.
@fredherfst8148
2 жыл бұрын
@@kityhawk2000 …so you think dumping Masi, things will be so much better? You need to listen to this video again.
@alexlamas6324
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for being the F1 voice of reason! This was the most coherent and sober assessment of the Abu Dhabi GP I have listened to thus far.
@stableianF1oracle
2 жыл бұрын
When Lewis can get away with trying to kill Max at Silverstone and suffer a pis* poor penalty of 10 seconds for taking out the championship leader of a 33 points lead then steal 25 points back it's a disgrace. Lewis should have been banned for a year. He knew exactly what he was doing .... That's the scandal of this year.
@JeeGee114
2 жыл бұрын
👏
@Obsidian281
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your milder reflection on Masi's performance compared to other KZitem channels
@stanleyyoung6716
2 жыл бұрын
as always Peter a brilliant summary. I feel Masi has to go and the FIA needs to beef up the race director team (as you stated) and have a permanent group of stewards. This is a global sport with a global audience and it can not be run like an old boys club.
@dyka1889
2 жыл бұрын
Masi's decision wasn't about Max VS Lewis. It was about Racing VS Non Racing. Masi choose racing, but in a terrible way.
@DJUwU
2 жыл бұрын
Michael "clueless tyrant with witty remarks" Masi
@cosminlesutan3574
2 жыл бұрын
That why he did not give Sainz the chance to race? He only had to let Ricciardo also pass ..
@ziweiwang1704
2 жыл бұрын
Ending the safety car is a general choice for racing over Non-racing. Letting some lapped car by to setup p1 and p2 for the sc restart is Masi putting a personal definition on "racing", before he chooses to go with racing. Passing lapped cars is a part of racing. Masi deliberately took that part out of the situation without realizing that it would create an unbalance in "racing".
@VivianNewman
2 жыл бұрын
Peter is one of the best! I always look to him for insight!
@Nada-i5s5j
2 жыл бұрын
Finally went back and watched the replay of the Abu Dhabi race, something I do on race day (Sunday) evenings. Honestly feeling gutted for F1 fans, for Lewis and yes, for Max.
@cmod8099
Ай бұрын
Gutted for the 8 x FIA Rules F1 Champion, I can understand. Gutted for the FIA protected, torpedoing, would be decapitator, BrakeTester, who keeps Hamiltons stolen 2021 Trophy, in his cabinet?
@gogglespaesano2931
2 жыл бұрын
Well done, Peter. Thank you for the sane comments. I'm hoping this year will light a fire in Lewis next year. If so, I think Lewis will take it to another level still. I can hardly wait for next year.
@gackauo
2 жыл бұрын
How can anyone race to another level if they know whatever they do can be taken away. Its like a rigged carnival game, you lose your will to play knowing the rules are skewed.
@Breslinmusic
2 жыл бұрын
@@gackauo Yeah, I thought the same but then I reminded myself that I'm a lesser mortal than lewis and the Mercedes machine. It's what's so unbelievable about Lewis, why I'm so inspired by him, he feels all the pain yet he keeps coming back. He is the GOAT. :-)
@amanda123889
2 жыл бұрын
@@Breslinmusic still I rise
@collinsmatthews1993
2 жыл бұрын
You make a great point Peter. If I'm a team owner throwing millions into this. I would like to know what specifically he can change about the safety car. How would I know that the next decision he makes won't affect my constructors points/position, meaning affecting my money.
@EspadaMK
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%, that is why those directives are in place, Masi overstepped the bounds by ignoring them. I hope Mercedes do take this to court otherwise this sort of thing will continue into next year and F1 will simply become a laughing stock.
@fraserloudon167
2 жыл бұрын
It’s not just constructors points it’s advertising deals and manufacture investment. Merc we’re about to have the next 10+ years of having the advertising of the most successful driver of all time. The only 8 time champion. If the race director has been seen to not act in accordance with the sporting regs then who covers the financial loss associated by not having that. The teams also lose out as F1 should be a standard of integrity. If this is found to not be correct the sport is then no longer the pinnacle. You don’t get this in Indy Car or NASCAR. F1 needs to be better and correct application of rules and clear direction is a must to be a top sport. You don’t see golf bending rules to make sure it’s a last hole play off.
@waybay5237
2 жыл бұрын
@@fraserloudon167 "financial loss associated by not having that.". Many are not critical thinkers, with Hamilton not getting the WDC, Mercedes will lose hundreds of millions in potential revenue.
@abuphonmanitip7899
2 жыл бұрын
What he is allowed to change will probably never be written in the rules. He has that authority, so he can act on issues that are unexpected and therefore not written down. This rule gives them authority to change what they like, without being accountable.
@EspadaMK
2 жыл бұрын
@@abuphonmanitip7899 actually you are very wrong on that front, firstly from a racing perspective, this was not in any way exceptional but that is what red flags are for. The fact it was the last race of the season is irrelevant. The rules allow him to dictate when a safety car is needed i.e Vsc, safety car, or red flag. They do not allow flexibility on the how. Yes sports do specify in their rules what rules can be bent and when and by whom. This was not one of those situations and those directives are for Masi to follow so that the teams and drivers know what is happening. To put it simply Masi cheated, the only real question is whether it was due to incompetence or corruption.
@LDBCFC
2 жыл бұрын
"Overriding authority" means make rules up as you deem fit. Complete shambles of a decision just to see a last lap overtake which didn't need to happen. I'm a big fan of Max, but there will always be that shadow over his first championship
@19brighan
2 жыл бұрын
Yesterday was the biggest scam executed that I've seen in any sports. F1 lost million fans with that race including myself
@sheldoniusRex
2 жыл бұрын
Rule changes F1 needs: No communication between teams and race director. All lapped cars *must* be allowed to unlap themselves when the safety car is deployed, though that may occur either immediately or after the track is cleared of debris. If a yellow flag occurs within five laps of a race ending, and safety car conditions persist over three laps, there *must* be a red flag with a two lap Sprint once race track conditions are safe, unless the overall time limit expires. No one can change tires under red flag conditions within ten laps of either the start or finish of the race. If they must for safety reasons they start from pit lane. A race can not be said to have been held, and points can not be awarded unless there are at least five consecutive laps completed under green flag conditions.
@maureenmucureezi7099
2 жыл бұрын
This is fair. Non of what happened,was fair
@hassandavis
2 жыл бұрын
One point to consider is this: is the race director permitted to alter the course of the championship? Because, by taking the unprecedented step to remove those cars, and only those cars, between Lewis and Max, Masi effectively eroded the cumulative gains Lewis had made throughout the race. This Masi did, knowing that Max was on new soft tires. A sizable alteration of the championship was the only outcome. Here is a far more balanced approach that would have had negligible direct affect on the outcome: let the race end in the natural manner, as has been the case with most every past race, i.e. either allow all cars to un-lap themselves OR restart the race with no change to the car positions.
@JeLifeCoach
2 жыл бұрын
I was at the race and thought the same thing. Either let them all unlap including Carlos so Max also has to defend from him, which he didn’t have to worry about, or make max work through the field. Lewis has to work and drive to clear all of them, why does max get a freebie. I also learned that isn’t a rule that is always to be followed - it can be or cant be but isnt required.
@JeLifeCoach
2 жыл бұрын
I was at the race and thought the same thing. Either let them all unlap including Carlos so Max also has to defend from him, which he didn’t have to worry about, or make max work through the field. Lewis has to work and drive to clear all of them, why does max get a freebie. I also learned that isn’t a rule that is always to be followed - it can be or cant be but isnt required.
@DrJimmee59
2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me that once Masi realized that there were not enough laps remaining for all the lapped cars to come through and around, that the should have red-flagged the race. That would have allowed everyone to assume their proper position, change tires, address any other issues and have an even-steven three lap race from a standing start to decide the championship.
@abuphonmanitip7899
2 жыл бұрын
Would that not have been breaking the rules as well? There was a safety car situation, not a red flag situation concerning safety. My thought was he realised too late he should have let cars overtake before to have the situation he wanted (finishing without safety car), and decided to compromise.
@ronsmith6110
2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I just have a contention with the idea that it was difficult for Masi to follow the safety car procedure that is constantly used and that he has deployed for years, including at the end of races. I think it’s not an issue of confusion. He chose to break the rules to have a one lap race. The question is why? Pressure for sure. Just from the teams?
@t1328
2 жыл бұрын
Because he buckled under Horner’s pressure. He should be fired.
@ChielReemer
2 жыл бұрын
I smell a conspiracy theory! OOoohhhh....
@alextjb
2 жыл бұрын
The FIA wanted a one lap shoot out for the drama. Which isn’t really how sports works, that’s how Netflix works :( It’s never going to be changed but I totally get why Merc is pissed. Every driver but Max got shafted by that decision.
@sebastiandonickler.6715
2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it, I can’t believe that a trained race director can’t follow a safety car procedure or that he needed a team of data analysts to understand the consequences. From my home I was able to know the moment he did what he did that the result was set. And that not allowing the cars to un lap was right, nobody says that those cars were between them because Max pit for new tires, the cost of new tires was son cars in between.
@tonysabberton7252
2 жыл бұрын
And unfortunately for mercs, their strategy was influenced by the rules and regulations for the safety car. Now that it’s been brought to light that Masi can override the rules when he so chooses, gives him too much power to influence a race as demonstrated in Abu Dhabi
@Lauritsen24
2 жыл бұрын
My opinion is, if you want this to be clear you need also bring up all the Max penaltys. Begin with the 29 times lewis ignored track limits in Bahrain. But what if Masi let the cars sit between them, that wasnt good ether. What Mercedes is doing right now is damaging their brand big time. A lawyer said if they keep going with this the whole race will be declared as No winner. Max will still win if it comes that far.
@ruialmeida5755
2 жыл бұрын
Let's face it - unlike Charlie Whiting who saw the rule book as being "can or cannot" - Masi introduced - "maybe"! And by doing so left drivers at the mercy of whoever was loudest or had the last word. That my friends is dangerous for the sport, because if you start changing\inventing rules as you go along there will never be justice in the eyes of those who end up at the short end of the stick. Ask anyone who drives in any category around the world and they will tell you exactly where Mr. Masi stopped being a Race director and decided to become a film director of a reality show.
@LogistiQbunnik
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for highlighting the point about Masi / Race Control being outgunned by the teams here. Pretty much exactly as Liberty did with the development of the new car package, they need to invest in race control to have a far more solid team there. Better, more transparency etc. We have had so many dodgy issues, so many times the "show" aspect won out over the proper procedures etc.
@myselfandeye3884
2 жыл бұрын
Ironically that 'show aspect' winning out was demanded by the teams years ago after a championship was decided behind a safety car. They wanted it changed because it made a mockery out of F1. Now Masi did exactly what they wanted and now everybody on Masi's case. Masi did what he was supposed to do. It was Mercedes dropping the ball and now want to blame it on Masi.
@valentindogbo9293
2 жыл бұрын
@@myselfandeye3884 What happened is akin to NFL official handing an extra timeout to a team out of timeout to stop the clock running its course at the end of a Super Bowl game so that team can run a last play with freshly substituted players. What a disgrace FIA. Show or no show, officials don’t just make a rule towards the end of sporting event. Show started on lap 1 and not lap 57.
@myselfandeye3884
2 жыл бұрын
@@valentindogbo9293 Your analogy doesn't hold water on different levels. But the thing is Masi played by the rulebook. The reason there is a rule that states lapped cars may overtake the safety car is to not interfere with the racing. Masi got the cars out that could interfere with the racing. Then he proceeded to make sure the race wouldn't end under a safety car, like teams demanded years ago, by invoking his discretion to pull the SC in. It may seem unfair but that's just because Mercedes gambled and lost. They had time to pull Hamilton in for new tires but they didn't want to give up track position. Which is understandable but in hindsight not the right decision. At the end of the day it wasn't Masi who crashed the Williams. It wasn't Masi who gave Verstappen a free pit stop. It was Masi doing what he was supposed to do. In fact you could even argue that Bottas gave Verstappen that free pit stop because he was no where near Verstappen to make them think twice.
@F1jones
2 жыл бұрын
@@myselfandeye3884 I'm not sure what season you're referring to, but whether it's fiction or not and since there is no rule provision whatsoever in the sporting regs for the scenario you're describing, it's your position that doesn't hold water. Moreover, last anyone checked, Sainz and Tsunoda were also still racing. They had to deal with backmarkers, so even that position of yours is inconsistent and is leaking all down your leg. Lastly, rules aren't enforced for one car based on where their teammate is, or where any other car is. They're to be followed irrespective of which race or championship scenario is happening at the given time. So, where Bottas was or wasn't is irrelevant. Also irrelevant is what caused the yellow caution, whether it was Latifi or Masi (?). You're grasping at straws with zero understanding of what the straws even are.
@seshu2yk
2 жыл бұрын
@@F1jones let this scenario play out next season and Max losing. They will absolutely loose thier nuts and have a proper meltdown 😂 this guys are are drama queen fans which Netflix series has given to F1, all they want is entertainment and drama, the sports aspect can take the third seat.
@charles-antoinemartel-roy
2 жыл бұрын
I really wonder if this might affect Lewis' determination and commitment. Doing all of these efforts to claw his way back, having done the job in that race too, only to have it taken from him through really no fault of his own. It's one thing when an engine expires like in 2016, you tell yourself, oh well I was unlucky, but in this case, it's not just luck, the bad luck was to have a perfectly timed VSC and then safety car 5 laps from the end with your rival 11 seconds behind on fresher tyres. But then to be put in an unfair position after all that because multiple regulations were breached, I'd feel like there's no point in putting on a show for them anymore. Wouldn't it have been an even more epic finale to see Max desperately try to get through the back markers and catch Lewis before the end. Possibly in S3 and then have him try a move somewhere we never see a move? Idk I think it's better than what we got.
@pietvanmeetelen4471
2 жыл бұрын
same could have been said for the rest of the field with their (FIA) decisions, not only lewis has felt the pain of their mistakes and i worry not only for his determination but the rest of the field as well
@charles-antoinemartel-roy
2 жыл бұрын
@@pietvanmeetelen4471 I've said this before and I'll say it again, bad stewarding decisions are different from bad decisions from the race director. The stewards can only investigate what is reported to them, and have to take into consideration the intent of the drivers and a bunch of other subjective matters. The race director has very clear procedures to follow in accordance to the regulations, with the power to over-ride them in the name of safety. What he did there was not in the name of safety, he abused of his powers to put on a bigger show.
@ramborigs
2 жыл бұрын
This is not the first time Lewis faces adversity like this. He'll bounce back stronger. If he needed any extra motivation at his age and stature in the sport he just got it.
@youridevries1734
2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget the emaculate timing of clipping the right rear wheel of his title rival at silverstone, i mean what more does a guy need to do?
@mountainconstructions
2 жыл бұрын
You say that like 2nd in the World Champs is a bad thing.... Every other driver would be frothing at such a result
@NathanJaneAndLouis
2 жыл бұрын
@peterwindsor, what's crazy, and unfortunately makes me query Masi's motives even more, is that the simple and very well used option would have been to immediately red flag the race. All cars to the pits, all on softs, 3-4 lap sprint to the end, exactly the ending we all wanted. Instead he "bumbled" his way to a farcical ending.
@peterporkeresq.2817
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 But there was a credible reason to throw the rule book away?
@peterporkeresq.2817
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 Haha, nice. 'Creative' way indeed. And you think that was a fair thing to do? Excitement over fairness?
@peterporkeresq.2817
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 What a disingenuous nonsense. The rules were manipulated to favour the driver who did nothing all race to win and your verdict is 's!@# happens,' who do you guys think you're fooling with that logic? How about doing the right thing?! Is that too much to ask? And when the right thing is not done how about calling out the injustice and stop hiding behind convenient nonsense like 'creative way?'
@peterporkeresq.2817
2 жыл бұрын
@@arletottens6349 Hahaha finally! Hypocrite. Who did you think you were fooling? Pathetic! 🤣
@Viplav.Narayan
2 жыл бұрын
I think FIA to team radio should be available to viewers. People watching are wise enough to understand what is being said and what it means.
@Techo1329
2 жыл бұрын
Disagree on point 1. Slippery slope Peter to suggest the race director should be considering who's on what tyres, who's pitted or not, who's been in front the longest...his job is to do all he can to get racing resumed ASAP, he should not be concerned with how it affects one driver or another. Masi did nothing wrong in this context, his job was to get the race underway if possible, and he did. The other option was to favour Lewis and not restart...again wrong.
@konradandrag845
2 жыл бұрын
If it is true that Lewis told toto to withdraw the appeal I think that is a piece of the greatest sportsmanship I’ve ever seen. I wanted max to win and by no means is Lewis perfect but I really like him a lot more now
@MrJamkev
2 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse they will like him now, he gave Max. Championship
@senadl4733
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJamkev Yeah sure he gave a championship to a guy that had 10 wins,10 poles and 18 Podiums in a season...,get your hating head clear man...
@acrylup
2 жыл бұрын
@@senadl4733 everybody saw Lewis had the championship his way until the very last lap and the shit show we’ve seen. Stop saying max won fair and square
@Resist_Oppression
2 жыл бұрын
Listen to yourself. You don't like someone when you don't know him/them. Sounds like you buy into the politics. Sad
@darwinharmon8341
2 жыл бұрын
If he in fact did do that then good on him, I imagine a large part of the way he acted after the race had to do with the talk his father had with him after getting out of the car and before any press interviews
@paulrijkens
2 жыл бұрын
Good analysis Peter, just one point you may also have made: I know of no sport where 'managers' can talk directly to the chief empire. I realize that Mr. Massi, in the strictest word is not an empire, but he should have turned of his microphone right at the beginning of this shouting match ages ago.
@ZOANOM
2 жыл бұрын
Well Peter, if Lewis had been penalized appropriately for Silverstone, we wouldn't be here. Also, Lewis should have had to give back the position after T6 in lap one, he was clearly in 2nd place at the apex.
@joostvanburen3422
2 жыл бұрын
Peter, factually the rules don’t say the SC can only come in after the lapped cars went around and are at the back of the pack. 48.12 states that “these [the lapped] cars should then proceed around the track at an appropriate speed, without overtaking, and make EVERY EFFORT to take up position at the back of the line of cars behind the safety car.” and “once the last lapped car has PASSED THE LEADER the safety car will return to the pits at the end of the following lap”
@rikhooft1898
2 жыл бұрын
The real 'Problem' was that Mercedes did not pit Hamilton making him a sitting duck for Verstappen. Wolff realized this capital failure - at least Hamilton did - and is now blaming the FIA for this. If they would have red flagged the race or restate it it would have turned down f1 completely. Totally disgusting. So Masi did the best for the sport. Mercedes did not react at all to the changing situation and that made them lose the championship.
@brianwilliams5135
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your work Peter. Very informative with no outrage. Whatever the future outcome, I feel that this will always be a "tainted" championship. From what was broadcast of "talks" between pit wall and Masi, it sounds like Red Bull/Christian Horner browbeat Masi into changing his lapped cars will not be re released to the five cars between the two protagonists would pass Lewis. I view his overriding authority, re safety cars, is when to use but still following the rules. Sadly the outcome of the entire season was decided on a bad decision to run a one lap sprint on outrageously mismatched tyres.
@sirrealreal
2 жыл бұрын
all Lewis fans are not just disappointed or angry but some of them try to put poison into the discussion and want to make this a tainted championship. How unfair and unjust. As if Max Verstappen does not deserve the title and did not won it fairly overall. very populistic stance i think. Lewis Hamiltons luck: remember his red flag luck at imola? remember the silverstone crash. Bottas chrashing into verstappen in hungary. They had their share of good fortune and now here are people who want to discredit Max verstappen the young challenger who single handedly took up competition with 7 time world champion Hamilton and did so in a grand manner despite all the toto wolff tricks (he is a disgrace i think) . Penalties given to verstappen for which hamilton does not receive one (just this weekend in lap 1 alone). Mercedes has suffered points also by a conservative tyre strategy during the whole of the season. When toto's computer would have said cut your throat he and the team would have done it as well. a very rigid team therefore. the establishment is always conservative and red bull challenged this status quo successfully this season with an excellent car and an even better driver. Hail to a NEW champion. Hail also to Lewis and his father for their sportsmanship. they set the example that other still have to follow obviously. and by the way In my opinion the whole safety car procedure where a driver looses all of his time ahead is strange. And in Abu Dhabi it was indeed the perfect storm. A very bitter ending for lewis indeed and i feel for him. He might however still win his 8th title in the future. i would not be surprised. greetings from a dutch fan. Hamilton is a great champion and so is his father.
@RichardHartley65
2 жыл бұрын
@@sirrealreal - if you have any sense of justice, you cannot help feeling the 2021 championship is tainted. The promised showdown was manipulated and the result decided in Race Control, not on the track.
@danielvaneek1605
2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a good thing for Lewis and his legacy. The mercedes dominance always tainted his achievements, but now we will all remember the titan battle with Max, which he almost won, and then Latifi happened. I think your assessment is largely correct, but I would argue we've seen many such bad decisions from race control and the FIA this year & enough in favor of Lewis.
@dmaharry7976
2 жыл бұрын
Great objective perspective. Mind you I don’t sympathize for masi. He cocked it up knowing he gave it to RB. He knew what he was doing. And if he didn’t then it’s even worse
@IAmKry
2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it was only "giving it to red bull" because Mercedes didnt pit lewis under two different opportunities. He had good enough pace on mediums to run right by Max on his softs. If he had pit, and Max had been out front on the older tires on the restart, this entire conversation would be reversed and we'd be saying Masi gave Merc the win. It's a bit of a clusterfuck, but Merc's loss is not solely Masi's calls. It's a factor, but it's not the only factor. I wouldn't want Masi's job in a million years, but I'd rather have this controversial end than a championship decided under a yellow flag finish. If Masi didn't flip flop on the lapped cars overtaking and waited till the last minute, it also would have been much less controversial. It was the flip flopping that made it so ridiculous. That was Lewis' race, for sure. I'm a Max fan, and even I can see that. But it wasn't just Masi that lost them that race, I guess is my point.
@kyam3331
2 жыл бұрын
Dont believe for a second that masi would have done the same if Mercedes had pitted
@jeffreyhutchins6527
2 жыл бұрын
@@kyam3331 Why not ? Masi let Hamilton exceed track limits in turn 4 at Bahrain for 29 laps. It wasn't until Verstappen did it one time before Hamilton was made to stop. Then he even had the stones to get on the team radio and complain about being made to stop. So, I don't understand where you get your certainty Masi would not have done the same. They let Hamilton gain a massive advantage turn 6 lap 1 so....
@tonespeaks
2 жыл бұрын
@@IAmKry I totally disagree, the rules are really clear. More importantly there was no reason to only let some cars unlap and not all. Mercedes would have won in either scenario. If all cars unlap, Lewis wins, if no cars unlap Lewis wins. So allowing some cars to unlap and not others, is not part of the rules. It was a constructed to create a spectacle for 1 lap. But it would not be a fair fight because Lewis was on Old Hard tires, whereas Max was on New Softs. As a referee or organizer, that create a scenario that was unfair. It is one thing if the unfair scenario is created on track by the participants, but not the officials. Just to counter your point that is wasn't 100% Massi's fault. He stated at the beginning there would be not passing the Safety Car, so there was no reason for Lewis to Change tires, race is won. Then changed his mind but only for a select group of cars, how in the World could Mercedes have anticipated that??? You can't blame Mercedes they got the strategy right. But where I do agree with you.....they should have known Massi would something strange and kept that in the back of their minds. I just hope that F1 and FIA come to F1 with clean hands in 2022. It would be nice to see them revamp the rules and roles. Teams for sure shouldn't be allowed to petition the officials during the race.
@IAmKry
2 жыл бұрын
@@tonespeaks I'm not referring to lewis changing tires then. You are misconstruing what i'm saying. There was a vsc earlier, and at the start of the safety car you can literally listen to lewis' onboard. He wanted to pit and once his team told him no, he passed the pits and max pitted for softs. Why the hell would I suggest he pit AFTER max was on softs? I think you completely missed that point in what I was saying. We had a vsc where they left him out AND at the start of the safety car he had a chance to pit BEFORE Max, and against Lewis' wishes they did not pit him because then he'd have been behind Max, who had not pitted.
@michaelmcbreen4025
2 жыл бұрын
Peter I would just like to say as an avid fi supporter I find that the way you spoke was so refreshing and knowledgeable also so clear and concise so I have just subscribed to your channel and can't wait for the next video.👍
@elmadi7391
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again Peter for explaining things and for your thoughts 🙏🏁🏎
@udomelse2309
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Peter, I love Hamilton and Verstappen both. I miss in your video objectivity and a view of people who do agree with the decisions. For the Dutch it is fun tomwatch English media up to the point where there man loses. All objectivity out of the window. Over a whole season Verstappen is on top off all statistics and made less mistakes. This video takes away the glance of these two topdrivers. Hamilton was brilliant and Verstappen. Hamilton was unlucky in this race, Verstappen with the puncture, crash by Bottas and the Silverstone GP. This race would not have mattered if Hamilton did not have luck. I loved Hamiltons reaction and the media should follow.
@R08U5
2 жыл бұрын
Amen, do not give up to see the beauty in racing too. Even or especially in these days. Having a balanced account of racing is the USP for me on this channel. I hope that will continue.
@soguimesarl2012
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sir. Everything well explained with calm without taking any side.Just right in the middle.keep up the good work Sir.
@paulhay7791
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve dropped my subscription to F1 and I won’t return unless the race director is replaced and it’s clear that racing is more important than entertainment.
@regregistreren1
2 жыл бұрын
Simple solution: A 5 second penalty for Lewis for not returning the position after gaining an advantage by cutting the corner in lap 1
@sanderdeboer6034
2 жыл бұрын
Was this outcome unfair for Lewis? Absolutely! And at first I thought the F1 stewards and race control totally missed the plot. However after reviewing the entire last part of the race, I feel they did do the right thing in the moment. After the crash they choose to deploy the safety car, while a red flag would be to severe. And once you are on that trajectory the rest of the actions follow in logical order. They first didn’t allow lapped cars to overtake the safety car, because the track was being cleared. And when they did allow the cars between Vestappen and Hamilton to overtake the safety car this was done in the spirit of the rule not to allow a giant mess in the end. Normally they would require all lapped cars to pass, but unfortunately if they still wanted to end the race in the green, they needed to act quickly. And this is also a rule all teams signed up to. That the race should whenever possible be finished NOT under a safety car situation. In hindsight it is easy (and understandable) to blame race control for the way this race and the championship was decided. Again it was totally unfair for Hamilton and it would probably have been better when a red flag would have been issued. This way both Hamilton and Verstappen could have been on soft tires and could have had a fair change in the end. However this is not how it works, when the crash happened it just wasn’t severe enough for a red flag. And we now race control would opt for it if necessary, like seen in Baku. Once that decision was taken, the other decisions that followed were understandable at the time. Hindsight is 20/20! I know this will not convince most people, especially Hamilton fans, and I understand!. Please try to respond with some dignity and show me were my logic is wrong with ARGUMENTS! Shooting insults doesn’t help the discussion!
@chrisbeetham5469
2 жыл бұрын
I get wanting to race under green flag conditions but you can't just rip up the rule book to accomplish that. While Michael masi will say he has authority to overrule his own rule book that is surely for small technicalities rather than to engineer a final shoot out. It also sets a dangerous precedent where he can just make his own safety car rules whenever he likes. But the big one for me is the fact it was designed just so max and Lewis had a race. It ignored sainz who was in third and also on soft tyres from being involved and it left Ricardo in a position where he could only lose positions! The other factor is it was dangerous. Think I'm talking nonsense? Watch strolls last lap with radio chat he has people unlapping themselves and others racing himself at some points.
@sanderdeboer6034
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbeetham5469 Good points, and I think these are the arguments that should be used to change part of the rules, but also force the FIA to properly and consistently implement them. I feel that they indeed were too focused on the green flag situation, and that forced them to make some questionable decisions. However I do still feel hindsight is 20/20 and that when you take the entire inconsistencies that ruled the entire season into account, this probably FOR THIS race and season was the only outcome WITH this race management. It doesn’t make it right or ideal, but shit happens. I also feel that the constant bombardment of comments from the team principals (mostly Toto and Horner) didn’t help either. If you look at what Masi and his colleagues had to deal with in a very short time frame, I feel they tried there best, and I can understand their thought process. Again it doesn’t make it right when you look at it after the event, but that is just not how live of in this case Motorsports works. They do need to learn from it, and make sure it doesn’t happen again.
@chrisbeetham5469
2 жыл бұрын
@@sanderdeboer6034 my ideal outcome from this is actually max keeps the title but masi goes or certain rules are tightened up. Defo the team principles talking direct to the race director should go. The safety car rule has needed overhaul for a long time (not during a race mind). Why can't lapped cars just fall back in the pack for example? The other rule that needs setting right from the start is enforcement of white lines on every corner on every track! Not just on some corners or other corners it's defined by a kerb etc
@sanderdeboer6034
2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbeetham5469 Couldn’t agree more!
@RodFarrell
2 жыл бұрын
This whole season has seen changing interpretations and applications of the rules and that is what needs to be fixed. To avoid bad decisions in the pressure of the last few laps why not ban safety cars in the last 5 laps and go straight to red flag. That way all drivers have the same opportunity to change tyres, if their strategy has been wise enough to have some available and have a clean restart. In this case this would have resulted in Max winning anyway because his team was better strategically and he would have restarted on new soft tyres but it removes any accusation of bias.
@rtdenim
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter for your thoughts on this. If I may add my thoughts. Although messy and confusing, in the end, releasing the 5 lapped cars was the correct action. If he had decided to leave the lapped cars between them it would have been an obvious and undeniable "we're gonna make certain Lewis wins this" type of moment. Safety cars are part of motorsport and sometimes they work in your favor and sometimes they work against you. Lets not forget earlier in the season when Lewis hit the wall and by the time he got himself unstuck he was a lap down. They let him go through under the safety car and get his lap back and as I recall there was was then an immediate red flag that let him fix his car for free as well. The end result was a slew of points he would not have had otherwise. If there are lapped cars amongst the leaders during a safety car I can't remember a time when they were not allowed to go through. Max won this championship by making a legal pass, on track, for the lead, on the last lap. Mostly made possible by Mercedes making the wrong call and not bringing him in for new rubber. There were 4 options for both teams when the SC was deployed. 1) both cars come in for new tires. Positions remain the same. a nose to tail strait fight for the end. Result... 60/40 Lewis wins that. 2) as happened, Max comes in for new rubber, Lewis stays out on worthless tires in a desperate hope to hold on. (bad choice). Result... Max wins 3) Lewis comes in for new rubber and Max stays out to take P1 on his older tires in a desperate hope to hold on. (bad choice). Result... Lewis likely wins. 4) both stay out on their current tires. Max's newer but not fresh. strait fight to the end. Result... 50/50 on who takes the win. Mercedes made the wrong call and it cost Lewis the championship. They over thought it and tried to be cute and the gamble backfired. Redbull gambled and it paid off. That my friends is motorsport. The safety car was needed. They worked their tails off to clear the track so it could finish under green as they should have done. They cleared the lapped cars between the leaders, as they should have done. They should have let the other 3 cars go as well, but lets be honest, those 3 cars had no relevance to the outcome of the race, nor should they have. There should never have even been a question as to whether the lapped cars should or should not be let through. If they have time to clear the accident, then the restart should have the leaders nose to tail. That's how safety cars work. Period. Congrats to both drivers for a great season and congrats to Max for a well deserved Championship. Can't wait for next year.
@jamesegginton9780
2 жыл бұрын
Very nice comment but the issue here is that it should either have been all lapped cars let through or none. In either scenario Lewis would have won and that is what the rules state should happen. The Fact Massi didn't follow the rules is why we have this mess. if Massi had informed in the first place that was his intention then Lewis could have changed strategy and pitted but Massi first told everyone he would not be unlapping cars. Thats what I find hard to swallow is that he said one thing, the team acted on that only for him to change his mind. In a court of law I am pretty sure this would be overturned
@rtdenim
2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesegginton9780 I respect your comment here and I agree Massi should have released all 8 cars, not just the 5, but I still contend that if he had released all 8 the end result would have been the same. My main contention is that the decision to pit for tires has to be made immediately once the SC is deployed. waiting 2 laps and then pitting would have put Lewis to the back of the field. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but at the moment the SC is deployed, the decision had to be made in order to pit and maintain either P1 or P2 due to the gap to the rest of the field at that time. Long before there was any comment one way or the other about lapped cars. The assumption had to be that lapped cars would be released and P1 and P2 would be nose to tail for a restart. Redbull pitted instantly and retained their position at the front. Merc chose not to and that is what cost them the race. At least, that is how I see it.
@AngeIspawn
2 жыл бұрын
1.) Masi made mistakes, last Lap happens and Max is World Champion. 2.) Masi made NO mistakes, cars were allowed to unlap 1 round earlier, last Lap happens and Max is WC. British media needs to accept the fact Max is the rightfull WC. If that last lap didn't happen, MAX would've been the one deliberatly robbed of his chance instead! Masi had unneccesarily prolongued SC time by DENYING cars to unlap WHEN THEY SAFELY COULD AND THERE WAS STILL TIME. This while ALL parties agreed before the race they don't want to end under a SC. There would've been no excuse. Once he realised what he had done, this whole mess afterwards has been nothing more then damage control trying to fix it. Either way, i'm done with Hamiltons crying fanbase. Max is the well deserved Champion and you'll just have to deal with it. We can only hope FIA will get its act together so there won't be more biased mistakes of any kind in the future.
@blue04mx53
2 жыл бұрын
I am the race director ! Under Article 15:3 The first 10 cars shall run clockwise and the last 10 shall run anti-clockwise !
@sanfemzy
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis, but i think u are giving Masi a soft landing. The repercussions were clear when he made the call, even to someone like me who is new to F1. Moreso, he's been messing up for almost half the season!!
@goldcard66
2 жыл бұрын
Lets suppose Hamilton did go into the pits for new tyres, losing track position to Max, but on a set of fresh red tyres, and the safety car scenarion would unfold the same, and Lewis could overtake Max to win the race and the championship, would Mercedes decline the win due to the regulations not being followed to the letter ?
@shawn197
2 жыл бұрын
Of course not, but then Red Bull would do what Merc did now.
@julesjules7097
2 жыл бұрын
what are you talking about.. its irrelevant because if you watched Peter´s video the letter of the rules were not applied properly and any honest person whom watched this season will know the narrative was to push Max to be champion hence all the bad decisions that were made this season,, so Peter called it a perfect storm but it was a recipe for disaster because they were attempting to turn the pinnacle of Motor sport into a manufacture fake WWE farce so the FIA and all of F1 deserve this shite hitting the fan..
@XboneMalone
2 жыл бұрын
@@shawn197 Exactly! If the race panned out like it did but roles reversed, I wouldn't celebrate Lewis winning that race let alone the championship. And had the race finished under the safety car, no one on this planet would have genuinely come up with a complaint that involved the Race Director saying no lapped cars to overtake, then next lap, that some cars would, then calling the SC in after the 5 between 1st and 2nd had passed it!
@kityhawk2000
2 жыл бұрын
Well we've seen the safety car situations played out time and time again and they have always followed the same procedures for years. How is any team supposed to predict the FIA rewirting the procedure just for this race. Is it going to happen in future races too or is this another special one-off decision like Brazil. We don't even know that.
@mvcchief4787
2 жыл бұрын
To your question, had the situation been turned around and Lewis pitted and Max was P1, we all know the race would have ended “Under the Safety Car”…. We know there would not have been a “last lap shootout”
@raydrury9243
2 жыл бұрын
I really like your analysis style and balanced perspective on the turn of events. What do you think about the idea of closing the pit lane as soon as a VSC or Safety Car is deployed?
@lindabenny4454
2 жыл бұрын
I have never agreed with being able to change tyres when there's a safety car. If Max had been on his hard tyres & Lewis on his it would have least been a fairer fight.
@jessiebrader2926
2 жыл бұрын
@@lindabenny4454 I agree, no tire changes under yellow, maybe red as well!
@wesleywilliams7762
2 жыл бұрын
At last someone talking facts!! thank u for this
@crazyawakening
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks loving ur analysis
@DimitarYanev87
2 жыл бұрын
Spot on, as always. Aside from the fact that there's a clear safety car protocol that wasn't followed as it has been in every other race before, what's also disappointing is that a safety issue has been used to artificially give one side an advantage and spice the race up. We'd be ok with that if the protocol was followed but the overriding power of the race director was used to further reinforce Lewis' disadvantage in the situation. You shouldn't be able to have it both ways. Furthermore, the race director's work would be far less of a controversial topic if the guy was simply following the guidelines which particularly about safety car periods are not requiring any judgement from his side. So in the end Masi just executed Horner's request over the radio in complete disregard for the regulations. "Let them race" may sound like the right thing to do but there was a lot more to it on that occasion.
@ygaudreault
2 жыл бұрын
Only thing is, what safety issue are you referring to? Did Massi allow cars to unlap themselves with staff on the track thus putting people at risk? Allowing laped cars to completely unlap themselves isn't about safety, but about racing. It's done to allow cars on the same lap to race on the restart without having to overtake back marker's. Did you see any back marker's impede Lewis and Max on the restart?
@RichardHartley65
2 жыл бұрын
@@ygaudreault - why were only *some* of the lapped cars given that instruction? And why did Masi ignore the article in the regs governing withdrawal of the safety car on the lap *after* the lapped cars had unlapped themselves? Rhetorical questions. We all know that the answer is that Masi was reacting to whoever shouted loudest and he forget his own rules!
@SmashGhost
2 жыл бұрын
It's not about "should" unlap. The rules says "required" to unlap. However, the Race Director has ultimate control of how that is executed.
@johnnyboy7538
2 жыл бұрын
to unlap ALL the cars not some of them, not in a title decider like this, it was bullshit.
@SmashGhost
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyboy7538 The regs say any, not all. There is precedent to do this. The outcome would have been the same regardless, assuming that the rules were correctly applied at the initial call.
@johnnyboy7538
2 жыл бұрын
@@SmashGhost okay then answer this simple question then, were "any" unlapped cars left after those 5 lapped cars had unlapped?
@212go
2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyboy7538 yes, there were left 3 of them. The rule was right, the procedure was wrong.
@driesvanoosten4417
2 жыл бұрын
You leave out part of the rule, which is that cars are required to pass the safety car if the message "LAPPED CARS MAY NOW OVERTAKE" has been sent to all Competitors via the official messaging system. The rule does not say that the race director (or rather the clerk instructed by the rd) has to send that message. The rule is thus not a directive that says what the RD should be doing, but a directive that says how the cars must respond if he does so.
@forlatagate1
2 жыл бұрын
,this gentleman, is the most articulate, wise and intelligent person I've heard speak on formula one. Sky sports or Channel four should begging him to work for them.
@rodolphendessabeka8721
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter for another sobering analysis. I agree with you regarding the conversations between the teams and the race director being kept private. However like I said earlier it's being done not for transparency but rather for entertainment.
@killerbeesong
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest Hamilton and Verstappen are on par. FIA should give both drivers the world championships. Everyone happy.
@ramborigs
2 жыл бұрын
That's what really sucks. Two great cars and two even better drivers. For it to end in such a scripted fashion is robbery to Lewis, Mercedes, Every other driver not named Max and the fans
@Takeiteasy11
2 жыл бұрын
@@ramborigs best driver won at the end of the day
@MR-cp4sj
2 жыл бұрын
I see you always got a trophy even when losing.
@F1jones
2 жыл бұрын
Verstappen's never won a race from lower than fourth, much less a race like Brazil or Russia this year. Or Turkey last year. Or any number countless races that Hamilton's come through the field to win. So far I see a guy who drives to the performance of his car when he wins. And few drivers have ever complained about Hamilton's wheel to wheel racing etiquette. Not a par at all.
@Takeiteasy11
2 жыл бұрын
@@F1jones can’t wait for next season. Ham vs George for 2nd place....
@jorgkuijt4735
2 жыл бұрын
Max was incredably unlucky this whole season, and incredably lucky during this last race... Karma?
@martinrodgers6114
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary and assessment of the situation. It was a very sad and sorry end to the season. Leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. Mercedes and Lewis being robbed and RB and Max winning in less than clear and just fashion. Hopefully things will be learned for the future and we will not see such a controversial event again. If I were Michael M. I would resign.
@wobblyrampack9655
2 жыл бұрын
My guess is Michael will be given a golden shove out the door.
@howardleckey2089
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you most. Bad for all racers and teams. Nobody completely satisfied with this result. Really feel bad for both drivers. Lewis fir his tremendous injustice and Max for the hollow win that will always be considered a gift. I really hate this outcome and I’m a Max fan.
@stormageddon248
2 жыл бұрын
It was not hard to see how masis actions would affect the race. Lewis on like 40 lap old tires and max on brand new softs it was impossible for Lewis to defend that Red Bull for a lap. I have to say I didn’t expect Peter to actually criticize masi and admit that what masi did was wrong. It has been clear that Peter is a big max fan and it’s difficult for anyone to admit that there driver shouldn’t have won a race and I salute Peter.
@kpraz
2 жыл бұрын
its been a week i still cant get over this
@ferrysonder7051
2 жыл бұрын
Spoken by a true Brit.... As a Dutch I find it unbelievable how many times Verstappen gets a penalty, while when sir Lewis (lol) is getting a warming. If I read "this championship was staged" I agree....to help Lewis!!! Really, I cannot believe you people denying this with dry eyes. Cutting the corner lap 1 and dont have to give position back??? And you defend that? Hahaha. Silverstone a 10 second ...really?? A BLACK flag was the only right thing to do. Cutting corners 36 times in another race and the second Max is told to do the same....not allowed. These things are many more. Oh it was Mercedes own stupid misstake not getting fresh tires. Ofcourse Max would stay out. Gambled and lost. Mercedes are great winners and champions, but never I've seen such louzy losers. I am watching F1 35 years and the reactions are pathetic.
@MegaIronica
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great analysis. F1 is a new found passion for me. You sir helped ignite that passion. With all the information and opinions available, I felt lost at sea and needed a reliable lighthouse as a guide. I found my self coming to your videos not only after the races but also after qualifying, FP1 and FP2. This season was so good I was afraid any season after it would pale in comparison. However, little did I know about the embarrassing end it would have. The FIA disgraced their own sport. They took a sport with a UFC mentality and turned it into WWE. I am not sure I can continue watching. I probably will but with much less flame and passion than I though I would. Thank you again.
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