Usually lists are inherently subjective. These lists on the other hand are facts stacked on facts.
@yyny0
Жыл бұрын
The "How good do Cloudy's teammates need to be for him to win" tierlist.
@shutuplol1943
Жыл бұрын
One of the tier lists of all time, well done!
@Gamer16232
Жыл бұрын
Chat: how is Lucio hard? Cloudy: Have you seen Lucios use their ult? (Flashbacks to Junkertown and Kings Row) Cloudy: I have
@thomasgomez6218
Жыл бұрын
“Good Ana’s heal me and I don’t die. Bad Ana’s heal me and I die”
@thasbiah1132
2 ай бұрын
thats not what he said you doink
@pirachou
Жыл бұрын
30:46 almost went into a twitter rage mode ☠️ W based tierlist, not disapointed
@agiro01
Жыл бұрын
brothermensch providing quality bait
@monkagiga2271
Жыл бұрын
Been writing my master thesis for whole day listening to classical music, finally time to relax, watch some cloudy content and there he goes with moonlight sonata in background lol
@saadiqmuhammad2856
Жыл бұрын
This tierlist is actually based lol. Some things I will def argue but overall I see where he is coming from
@BruhFu
Жыл бұрын
As a Doom main, I can agree with putting him at A Tier. We have to put in a lot of effort to make him effective while constantly being flamed by our teammates and being told to swap.
@etusj.g.9535
Жыл бұрын
thats why rein is the best tank in the metal ranks haha
@Vespine.
Жыл бұрын
Hold up let him cook
@minimalgrammar1276
6 ай бұрын
I think Doomfist is hands down the hardest hero in the entire game. But Cloudy has like 100,000+ hours of ranked or something, so I'll respect his opinion.
@TomatoCarrot14
Жыл бұрын
Actually good tier list. As a zenyatta main this is accurate
@victorfabro107
Жыл бұрын
This is the most complete, well thought-through and totally unbiased tier list I've ever seen. Genius marketing move à la Andrew Tate triggering people on purpose to get more attention and coverage 8-)
@johnplayer3637
Жыл бұрын
Cloudy makes a tierlist every week to remind people of the gospel, yet they still sin.
@Art-rq6yr
Жыл бұрын
Good bait sir Twitter wasn’t ready
@tinycatzilla
Жыл бұрын
why did you skip the part where you talked about hanzo? does anybody have a vod link
@deadshot4621
Жыл бұрын
wondering the same
@dogonpot3756
Жыл бұрын
he's so ass doesnt even need to explain it
@buddys6840
Жыл бұрын
Basically his take was : hanzo little skill hero because you spam arrows and sometimes they just hit automatically all calculated
@anung64
Жыл бұрын
I didn't see it either but if I know cloudy well his argument must've been: you just die to RNG, GG
@pudhpreetdhillon8602
Жыл бұрын
actually w tierlist like idk why people say supports like mercy or ana take skill when their are guys like bap or lucio. Also mercy players you guys have zero rights for ego all you guys do is switch beams or fly plus every mercy tech is super easy to do compared to other heroes
@MrChiizzle
Жыл бұрын
I mean I'm a support player and find Lucio & Bap much easier than Ana. Easier to heal, easier to stay alive, easier to use abilities, easier to do damage. It's not complicated. Mercy on paper is easy because you don't need any mechanical skill and all her abilities are easy, but you still need to master her movement and positioning. She's my worst support and I know If I try to play her in GM i'd just die. It's easy to say "just pocket DPS", but a good Mercy needs to do more than that to climb ranks otherwise you are incredibly reliant on your DPS being better than there's. In GM & above players will just focus the Mercy so your positioning and movement has to be spot on. It's so clear that this tier list is from a tank players perspective and oversimplyfing supports as having "one job") Ana does heal the tank yes, but that's not her only job. If you want to maximise value as Ana and carry games then you need to be landing aggressive Antis, dealing with flankers, sleeping ults, keeping DPS alive (you're not always going to have a Mercy), as well as putting out damage. Try getting past diamond just pocketing the tank the whole game and see where that takes you. The easiest support is brig. I barely play her and somehow have a 70% win percentage, just need decent positional sense and awareness. Moira would be easier but she's shit.
@lamp2419
Жыл бұрын
@@MrChiizzle agree with the ana thing but i dont recon shes all that hard honestly, other than positioning and abit of general undestanding and game sense ive made it to masters pretty easily, obv dont know about higher ranks tho. Brig i have like zero playtime on so i personally would not get any value out of her
@MrChiizzle
Жыл бұрын
@@lamp2419 I don't think Ana is hard to play per se, she's probably somewhere in the middle in terms of how easy it is to get value out of her. But making it out like she's a low skill character, while Bap & Lucio is much harder is just wrong. Cloudy's just done this tier list based on how he thinks heroes should be played compared to how they are actually played I didn't play Brig before this season, you can sort of just whip her out and start rolling
@lamp2419
Жыл бұрын
@@MrChiizzle w take
@jahnnygames
Жыл бұрын
you should reupload this with chat to see the unawareness 😂😂
@Aliberator2
Жыл бұрын
Bruh I’m not top 500 by any means, and cloudy is pound for pound one of the Best Reinhardts to ever do it! That being said WTAF is this Tierlist lol
@stitchperlo9639
Жыл бұрын
Fun fact my duo was a tank player but I’m otp so since ow2 I asked him « could you play mei, genji, bap, Lucio and they are all on top of the hardest characters
@ongabonga4378
Жыл бұрын
The real difficulty of zen is getting yelled at for picking him by your teammates that are probably gold rank (you don't know their actual rank because their profiles are privated)
@meisvictor6035
Жыл бұрын
I love this man
@jacobsotorios8886
Жыл бұрын
I love men
@Tonycaveman
Жыл бұрын
Cloudy I love you, bro but this tierlist has me in stitches. Edit: Nvm, I watched to the end and this is an exquisite shitpost. Good job.
@urnansflipflop7894
Жыл бұрын
Based
@GreenZ3r0
Жыл бұрын
Ur actual main job as support is not to die. To live as Kiriko is so ez. I would say more ez than moira and mercy.
@realwaggeh
Жыл бұрын
Us bap mains get some recognition :)
@leodavinci9682
Жыл бұрын
Putting Ana not in the Torb Orisa Moira Mercy Tier is a crime, absolute braindead hero in ow2
@Frizzyy
Жыл бұрын
yes but it needs some aim to be good
@lamp2419
Жыл бұрын
On ana u can atleast have some personal impact instead of just letting everyone else carry like the other heros youve mentioned
@LevelOneGoblin
5 ай бұрын
Zen is so easy because they hardly give him anything to really do. Just float into the team fight, put a healing orb on the lowest person and a discord on the closest enemy and you're free to do almost whatever you want from that point until someone else needs healing.
@eggsby27
Жыл бұрын
W normal distribution
@junglebeatz
Жыл бұрын
Lil bro thinks rein is harder than Doom and Ball 💀
@bigboy2217
Жыл бұрын
Ikr maximum cappage
@michaelsi6770
Жыл бұрын
agree, Torb requires no brain, I was playing Torb in mid Diamond when I did not want to think, as long as you land some of your cheetos you are fine, Torb is lethal at mid and long range and if you jump on him he has overload and shotgun, basically turret is doing all the job and Torb is doing whatever he wants, it's almost impossible to kill Torb, basically you throw turret at random location and spam cheetos and spectate how other people are struggling against Torb
@michaelsi6770
Жыл бұрын
bap has the worst least influential support ult, that's why you have to do A LOT to carry on bap
@termsandapong7094
Жыл бұрын
Ana is incredibly valuable besides heal botting If you throw antis, sleep enemies, do damage to enemies, and heal, then you are much more oppressive than if you were just healing. If the enemy ana is better than you and doing all that, then your team is missing lots of value, and you lose. She is hard in high ranks because she doesn't have movement abilities.
@termsandapong7094
Жыл бұрын
He said "all timing, all positioning, all aim, all game knowledge" is his reason for why mei is A. I'm an Ana main, so I'm going to talk about Ana, but this applies to a lot of heroes under mei. How is mei about all of those things, but Ana isn't? Positioning and line of sight is incredibly important on ana. She doesn't have movement, so if your tank pushes, and you don't have LOS, they die and it's your fault. The ebb and flow of a fight alone is incredibly important, and it's easy to forget since you're farther back. You need to track your team's abilities and the enemy team's. For example, did DVA just use all of her defense matrix? I need to stay a little back to not be vulnerable to enemy LOS. did the enemy kiriko just use her suzu? I should anti them now that they're vulnerable. Wtf is so much harder about mei that makes her two whole tiers above Ana, or zen, or Sombra, or anyone else? Mei has one of the most broken abilities in the game. When she becomes an ice block, she is immune to damage, heals herself, and refills her ammo. She's almost like a tank. And don't even GET ME STARTED on the fact that you said she needed to be good at aiming, as if you need to work on aiming, and get better at it.
@-spaaski-1822
Жыл бұрын
who is repaul? the baptiste player he was talking about?
@goodoldtom
Жыл бұрын
Rupal, owl player
@bobbycorwen2827
Жыл бұрын
winton
@LoSki32
Жыл бұрын
Least biased Rein player
@arbi018
7 ай бұрын
Brig is G tier my man
@DipwadDeluxe
8 ай бұрын
genji's abilities are more committal than echo, therefore he is harder
@butteroverwatch
Жыл бұрын
u should add twitch chat to yt video
@aarus2340
Жыл бұрын
Put twitch chat next time plssss
@ParroTiest
Жыл бұрын
People who say Ana needs aim doesn’t know that she can aim inside the triangle on the scope and boom, and how about just get better at sleep dart
@michaelmatt2741
Жыл бұрын
Lol, kinda ironic to tell someone a character needs no skill and then tell them to get better at them. Almost like its not that easy and not everyone can do it without practice.
@aaz5810
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmatt2741 all it is positioning. Los enemy and heal tank. gg ez
@bigboy2217
Жыл бұрын
@@aaz5810 garbage tier take
@aaz5810
Жыл бұрын
@@bigboy2217 cool, go watch lhcloudy Ana video. literally pisseasy
@anilogo682
Жыл бұрын
I think JQ is S tier
@psdjklgfuiob
29 күн бұрын
BRIG LMAOOO
@flareb99
Жыл бұрын
Pharah is C at best, free mercy pocket every game
@bigboy2217
Жыл бұрын
Literally every good ana in the game tells you not to healbot and to use your abilities aggressively, especially nade. You think you want a healbot ana unto you have one and your team is lacking in pressure and you think it’s the DPS. Ego check. She also gets punished for mistakes more than other hero’s because she has no movement to come back with. Vertical stuff is a massive commitment and sleepdart is only easy to hit on doom and monkey when they dive, tracer and genji are both hard to hit and have cool downs to prevent easy sleeps. I’m glad it was the first seriously analyzed character so that I know the rest of the list is probably bad.
@cyemonkey1828
10 ай бұрын
God, clicking on heads is so hard. Even though I don't play widow I can go play as her and get easy 15k.
@SeraphSeph
Жыл бұрын
I'd say mercy needs aim as well. This is going to sound ridiculous to anyone that doesn't play her, but sometimes it's your job to glock someone others can't reach like widowmaker, ashe, etc.
@boston5814
5 ай бұрын
You're funny
@MrSonictheOtter
Жыл бұрын
Doom is easy???
@Jedi6295
Жыл бұрын
Put widow on A but put ana on C
@birdpog1
5 ай бұрын
degen list
@allanqueme4608
Жыл бұрын
Widowmaker over doomfist???????
@D00MFIST
5 ай бұрын
Lol you didnt watch the whole video
@therebelfrogy9287
Жыл бұрын
As Ana main, Ana is way easier for me to master compare to Mercy and Moira
@bigboy2217
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@boston5814
5 ай бұрын
"Master", does that mean reach gold?
@lacalvin
Жыл бұрын
Solid list except for Sojourn, that hero shoot logs and has a better fade than moira. Way too much reward for that bit of aim, positioning, risk undertaking and effort input.
@iiWarlord
Жыл бұрын
Dva is not that hard man what the hell id say she is just a bit harder than Winston but not more than that
@fieldingjames6808
Жыл бұрын
Has to be bait
@keloh613
8 ай бұрын
this tierlist is so bullshit! xDxDxD
@theus__
Жыл бұрын
what in the click bait is this
@pump9486
Жыл бұрын
Reimhard easy........... u hold w and then auto win the game.... .. broken game. .... nerf reinhardt. Braindead, not like rammatra.
@jacobsotorios8886
Жыл бұрын
Bait
@pump9486
Жыл бұрын
@@jacobsotorios8886 sherlocked homes........
@dontatmebitches
Жыл бұрын
Ksaa?
@pump9486
Жыл бұрын
@@dontatmebitches nuh uh
@Tantemify
Жыл бұрын
ana is tougher to use than zen i can guarantee that. ana needs to aim.
@bigboy2217
Жыл бұрын
Lmao aim is the one thing in Zen’s kit that is harder than ana.
@zeroFrequency
Жыл бұрын
Reinhardt is definitely around the middle of the pack when it comes to skill requirement he doesn't take much aim but he takes a little bit of other skills but not really that much
@jasonjacksonii1805
Жыл бұрын
counter pont reinhardt is the hardest tank to aim with. If they are more than 5 feet away from you, any other tank can easily aim on them. Firestrike is the hardest tank range ability, and the only time rein is even aiming. So to say its easy to aim doesn't even make sense when the other tanks have guns
@abracara
Жыл бұрын
rein no gun every other hero has gun how he not hard?
@mango863
Жыл бұрын
btw this guy tried to do an unranked to gm on ana to prove ana is easy but started deranking in diamond LMAO
@lhcloudy
Жыл бұрын
i did it for 3 hours and will finnish it tomorow stream and didint derank once?
@abracara
Жыл бұрын
you dont have to play like ML7 to win every game... just sit behind ur tank and nano him
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