You make very valid points. My experience has taught me that for dual sport adventure riding the conventional, right side up, forks are the way to go. One of the biggest reasons is fork seals. USD forks are prone to getting dirt in the seals and leaking oil. I have had conventional forks that are 15 years old still on the original fork seals. The average, non-professional racer, is way better off and money ahead just getting the stock suspension resprung and revalved specifically for their own preferences. If you want to do this conversion just because you like to tinker, then have at it.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with anything you said! Actually, although I am a big fan of adjustable suspensions, I almost never adjust mine... I adjusted them once when I bought the bike and a few thousand km later when I had a better understanding of the bike... never again xD (please dont tell anyone)
@Hellishrider
3 жыл бұрын
As usual, great tips and info sharing... Thanks buddy, appreciated!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you will need this one some day for your next bike :D. Thanks for the comment!
@tonybarrios5045
3 жыл бұрын
" riding around Europe with spare tires"! That cracked me up because it's true!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
It looks cool on pictures though :P
@tonybarrios5045
3 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed. You can look like you just came from crossing the Sahara.BTW, im from the Philippines!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
@@tonybarrios5045 what bike do you ride there? It must be incredible! I have never been east of Turkey or West of Brasil xD
@tonybarrios5045
3 жыл бұрын
I have had several but now have a xl700v, a husquvarna 650 and an XT 250(Serow). Yes. What makes the country interesting is the varied landscape. One day you're in a white sand beach and the next day your up in cool pine-clad mountains. Look for Coron and Hungduan Rice terraces for an introduction to what i mean. They're on youtube.
@Brislu
3 жыл бұрын
Very well mate! Upwards and onwards! Saudações 🇵🇹
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment Pedro :D Abraço
@SuperManelson
3 жыл бұрын
Great front end conversion and thank you for sharing Sr. Diogo! I plan on replacing the internal damping system of my forks with a fully adjustable cartridge system. On my bike, it will be cheaper and easier (famous last words... :D). Keep the videos coming mate, great content and format.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment Sr. Nelson :D Yeah, cartridge upgrade is "safe and easy". What motorcycle is it?
@SuperManelson
3 жыл бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Tracer 700... Not a dual sport though. I miss my 1994 TT600S...
@walek809
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Super tutorial. I am currently looking for a steering tube for wp48 with ktm. I share further. greetings
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
Never ever have I attended to someone's request so fast :D
@amiragaya
2 жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado for your tips. I own an XT660R just like yours. Great bike except for the crap suspension. I want to set up an USD fork, would you reccomend a 450EXC like yours (what model year is it?) or are there other models you think that would fit well? Bravo for the channel!
@OFFroadOFFcourse
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Alberto! I'm using a 48mm from a 2004 450EXC. The model is the 4CS I think...they are good cause they are easy to maintain, reliable, etc...many of the more modern and advanced suspensions are a bit more tricky, like the cone valves, the closed cartidriges, etc... or so i've heard :o To be honest, I'm not sure what to recommend... just get the ones that are more accessible to you. What is important is that you take them to a good suspension professional for a maintenance, revalving if necessary and spring replacement (cause the xt660 is much heavier than a 300-450cc enduro). You can get 43mm if you can find them cheaper than the 48mm, and you dont necessarily need to go for WPs. KYB, Showa, Marzocchi etc are also very good if tuned properly :) As for suspension travel, my XT has 250mm in the front and works perfectly (The suspension expert can modify the fork to limit/extend the travel to whats best for your bike)
@amiragaya
2 жыл бұрын
Great, I'll see what I can find and of course I'll take it to an expert, DMX in Madrid is my local expert, they did my husky 350 and they are like a supension surgeon so I trust them totally. On the rear I'll see what they can do too. Right now I have my bike in vigo after doing Portuguese TET. We had an amazing time in your country. And I can't agree more on all the points you make about the XT660R, if it wasn't for the suspension it's the perfect machine. I just have to get the suspension sorted out. Congratulations on your channel. I am hooked. And you are a great communicator!! Keep up the good work!
@TheIronButtRider
3 жыл бұрын
Bom vídeo! Máquina! 👍
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
Muito obrigado companheiro moto-empreendedor :D
@xrv_world_explorer2k207
3 жыл бұрын
Because you have a big review about this bike, i want to know why have oem exhaust and not 2 in 1.... Thank you.... Nice Chanel
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
I have been considering the 2 in 1system cause I would like to get more ground clearance, but there are a few thing stopping me: 1 - I don't like to spend money on things I don't really need (in Croatia the low ground clearance was a problem every day cause there were huge rocks mostly everywhere... in Portugal I didn't feel it was such a big deal) 2- A friend of mine has the 2-in-1 system and the bike becomes a bit too hot around the right leg. Not a huge problem, but something to consider 3- I am so happy with the noise, looks and performance of the 2in2 GPR system I have right now (its very lightweight too) that I don't want to ruin it. I'm just generally happy with the bike and dont feel like wasting more energy/money on that department. I will invest on a better monoshock instead, probably :)
@xrv_world_explorer2k207
3 жыл бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thamk you very much for your opinion , i have an xtr660 with ohlins rear and ohlins springs front , i m happy for this but i have problems with rocks when the road is bad. I have stock exhaust for 100000 , maybe i must change them
@xrv_world_explorer2k207
3 жыл бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse and a last question , which oil you used!!!
@SW-mg7et
2 ай бұрын
Hi, I might have missed it but what spring ratios you ended up with the XT660R after converting?
@wranglertr
2 жыл бұрын
Good improvements for poor guys like me but; why don't exist a budget modern dual sport like: More powerful Crf300 Rally, or Lighter Tenere 700, or Fuel injected drz400?
@MEGATRONJGG
3 жыл бұрын
What tires you used? I got YamahaXT660R too, i want more grip in offroad
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
I love and recommend the Michelin Anakee Wild on the front. On the back I am using Pirelli MT21 and they are really good for off-road, but they dont last long (Just like the rear Anakee Wild) I'd recommend the Mitas E-09 instead (good price/quality/mileage), but careful on wet road, they are not very good in those conditions. Other good rear tires for off-road: Continental TKC80, Motoz Adventure or Rallz, etc. A little bit more road worthy (but still very capable off-road): Mitas E07, Heidenau K60, Motoz GPS If you are in europe I can probably sell and send tires to your location ;)
@MEGATRONJGG
3 жыл бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse im from Spain, thanks a lot, i will look some
@MEGATRONJGG
3 жыл бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse By the way, I adore your modifications :D
@sergiotalves
2 жыл бұрын
👌👌
@wranglertr
2 жыл бұрын
Bell? What the bell?
@berketann
3 жыл бұрын
What is the sizes of orginal suspension?
@OFFroadOFFcourse
3 жыл бұрын
Just went to the garage to check it: 88.5cm from the middle of the wheel axle to the top of the extension
@berketann
3 жыл бұрын
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thank you so much man, greetings from Turkey :)
@mementomori4972
2 жыл бұрын
And finally, forget about all of this and just buy a bike with a better suspension,...which probably is going to cost you the same,...or even less.
@OFFroadOFFcourse
2 жыл бұрын
Well...its not just about money, there are many many reasons for you to upgrade a certain bike instead of just buying a "better one". KTM 690R for instance, is better than the XT660R in almost everything, but it isn't as realiable, as simple, as maintenance free, etc... I value that a lot. The XT660Z is also better than the sstock 660R in many ways, but its slightly heavier and much taller (much taller center of gravity), so not that good of a base either... The T7 or the 890r is too heavy for my 100% off-road oriented taste.. The PR7 can't ride with a pillion The DR650 is not fuel injected and its old... Etc etc. Getting a 3000€ XT660R and spending ~1500€ along 2 years upgrading it into a VERY interesting bike that suits my needs is a very good deal. I could have bought a KTM690 for 11.000€, still need to spend another 1000 or more in a nav tower and still be a bit unhappy cause the bike is "too ready to race" for my own taste =)
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