UPDATE: So after a few months of using this setup we have decided to make a few changes. The first change was the blue plug. About two months ago the motor end of the blue plug started to melt. After further inspection, the wires worked themselves out creating resistance. So we do not recommend that blue plug. We replaced it with the battery tender plug (video in our build series) and that completely fixed our issues. We also decided to replace the wiring a little bit. We put the circuit breaker in the back with the battery. We used a 9in 8awg cable with tinned copper ring terminals on either end and hooked up the circuit breaker to that, which went to the connect ease with a straight shot of wiring going right to our new plug. It just eliminates the unnecessary need to cutting or splicing wiring. I didn’t like that when I had to remove the bow hatch the wiring had to come out with it and was strained. We had no issues with the circuit breaker placement itself because of its placement, if you prefer doing it that way, by all means go for it. It was a personal preference to change it. Check out our battery tender install video here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/0W6uraJ6g4mSd3Y
@iamGrowing
7 ай бұрын
Also forgot to mention that today I’ve had my best day ever fishing which happened to be in the Pine Glades Natural Area by my house. I caught over 25 bass today and one was over 4 pounds. Rest were small. I was able to get into tight places with this kayak. I used 5 inch Senkos (green pumpkin 297). I caught so many fish that I ran out of two packs of senkos. Then I switched over to other plastic worms and didn’t catch anything. Not sure if they work up north where you guys are but definitely research them.
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
Congrats, yea we both have great luck with green pumpkin senkos. They are always a quality bait as a go to, to catch fish.
@davidwilliams1805
7 ай бұрын
Wow! You guys are doing an amazing job with this kayak! The MotorGuide install was very nice! Thanks again for sharing this! keep up the great work guys!
@edkennard72
6 ай бұрын
To give you a reason why native requires 8 gauge wire to hook up a trolling motor from where your battery is in the back to the front. If you were using a smaller wire, it would lose the amperage through the wire. The bigger the wire the less amperage loss going to wherever it needs to. That's why they use four two and four gauge wiring on welders because of the distance of how far some welders that got a weld and where their machine is less amperage loss. This has been a great video because I am going to buy the Titan x and I really appreciate all the work that you guys are putting into it. Building us and Pete when you were doing the butt connectors on the battery to hook up the for the battery there. It's the pink butt. Connectors are actually heat shrink connectors anytime that you see pink or blue and I believe black shiny like that. All you got to do is heat them up with your pencil lighter and they will shrink down and make a good connection. Also, we used them a lot when I ran on the road fixing lights on the trailers and we would use those and they worked wonderfully. Kept the salt in calcium chloride out of the wiring so they'd last a lot longer. Great build! Thank you!
@bobbybass1944
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining that , but wouldn't it be easier to put a breaker on the battery box ?? Everyone says breaker on box, native says hatch and bonafide has a video putting breaker on hatch . I'm waiting on my xi3 so all information is welcomed.
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
3 ай бұрын
@@bobbybass1944you can do either one. I ran it on the bow hatch and didn’t have an issue. Whatever you feel more comfortable with. However, I’m actually redoing some of my trolling motor wiring and putting the circuit breaker about 9 inches away from the battery. The blue motor plug in the front went bad and Pete and I decided it was easier to run new wire and do some “fine tuning” things we wanted to do after a few months of use. We aren’t moving the circuit breaker because we had issues with how far from the battery it was, we had no problems in that regard. We’re moving it because I didn’t like how it was connected to that bow hatch, I remove the hatch quite a bit and every time I did I felt it was straining my wires by having the circuit breaker connected to it. Hope that helps.
@Danxiong
7 ай бұрын
Great build series! I do feel like a “how-to” register a kayak along with the CF numbers would have been a nice video. Can’t wait to see ur on the water test!! 👍
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
That would be a great idea. most states let you do it online now so it makes it a lot more simple. Stay tuned the first on the water test will be coming out shortly now that spring is rolling around. Glad you enjoyed !
@bolgar1965
7 ай бұрын
Loving your build series on the Titan X. Are you going to be showing the install of the Xi3 Launch/Retrieve system? I never thought of putting the Yakpower lights on the Hatch Lid, that is ingenious. Keep up the great work guys and love your content.
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
We’ll have to see how the first few trips go on the water. If we don’t feel like we need the launch retrieve system we may not but this is a lot different from my old kayak so who knows. Thanks for watching.
@kenestra123
6 ай бұрын
Great watching you guys,nice clean setup. Well done!. I have yet to pick up my Titan X but was wondering what I was going to do also with the long length of the cable,cut to size or bundle it like you guys did. I think I will bundle it,makes sense in case of resale. Also,where did you source the sheathing for the XI3 cable? Thanks
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
6 ай бұрын
We got the sheathing from harbor freight. Thanks for watching
@iamGrowing
7 ай бұрын
You guys do it all right without trying to cut corners. I love that you guys went out of your way to get the proper tools. Will you be doing micro poles? I’m in south Florida where it’s pretty much shallow everywhere so I’m debating getting them. Also, on a side note. The red paint will chip pretty hard from the sidekick wheel mount. I’ve used my kayak three times now and the red octagon that goes into the other piece is all shot in terms of paint. You can’t see it since it always sits in the octagonal pipe but just a heads up.
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
Power poles are something we are considering but it may be next winter. Our ponds are anywhere from 8-30 ft deep so no real need for them now but who knows. Appreciate the kind words.
@mikelafontaine8464
7 ай бұрын
Another great video in the series. You've shown me a few things that I had questions on that I wasn't able to find answers to anywhere else so sincere thank you. Really appreciative to see someone finally do an install without cutting the xi3 power cable, I've asked about this and was never able to get an answer. You did it and made it look great. If you do add the lift and lower lines please do another video on that if you can, would be appreciated. In this video I do wish you didn't cut the part of installing the bow plate before the quick release bracket. I assume it's standard to remove all 8 of the screws so the bow plate sits flush?
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
Thank you glad you enjoyed the video and we will definitely make a video on the lift and lower lines if we do decide to install them in the future. As for the motor bracket up front you do remove the 8 screws to make the plate sit flush to the hull and then your allset. Thanks for the support !
@mikelafontaine8464
6 ай бұрын
@@UntamedOutdoorsmen Forgot to ask, did you use most of the 20ft of 8 gauge wire or do you think you could get away with 10ft? TIA
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
5 ай бұрын
@@mikelafontaine8464we used about 13-14ft of it
@cliff6490
3 ай бұрын
Hello, I dont want to bring up old memories ( Ascend 133X) but my question is what size plates did you purchase to replace the plates on the Ascend? Also i understand that they are seaflo and did they come with rubber gaskets? I am looking to fix some of the leakage issues as you mentioned. But i am going on your advice and get a Native Titan X. Thx again great builds you are doing Cliff
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
3 ай бұрын
No worries. We have a few videos talking about this but they're 4in deck plates. And no they did not come with gaskets, we reused the old gaskets but I would add some RTV instead.
@cliff6490
3 ай бұрын
Thx again appreciate the info
@hr1229
7 ай бұрын
Have you guys tried it on the water? wondering a couple of things : 1) How fast do you go with xi3 (top speed) and 2) How is it holding on saltwater offshore with wind and wave. likely going to copy your setup to a T. appreciate your videos !!
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
We have not been on the water with it yet. But expect a video very soon. Glad you enjoyed!!
@hr1229
5 ай бұрын
Hey dudes… did you try to full blast the speed, how fast did it take you?
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
5 ай бұрын
@@hr1229 about 4.3mph. While using the pedals and motor at full speed it was 4.7-4.8
@bobbybass1944
4 ай бұрын
Promise guys last question , just a little nervous with install . I got the plug you recommend . Doesn't have a positive or negative symbol, just numbers, is #1 the positive side ? Appreciate the help.
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
4 ай бұрын
I don’t believe it specified.
@cjlee9240
7 ай бұрын
Great videos and very informative. Are you planning to put a motor on the back as well? How are you planning to launch that beast? I’m still in the planning phase and your videos are top notch!!
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
Appreciate you. No plans for a motor in the back as of right now. Still doing the truck bed with a bed extender method for transportation but who knows if it proves to be too much we’ll go the trailer route
@forrestfolk605
7 ай бұрын
is loading/launching this kayak doable with one person with your current hauling setup?
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
I haven’t been out yet hopefully well be on the water in two weeks or so, but I don’t see why it would cause any problems. It is heavy but doable my old kayak was pretty heavy too. Everything I have is rated for the weight of the kayak so I don’t see there being any problems. However I would be hesitant to recommend this setup if someone had a health problem or something similar and found lifting heavy items a challenge.
@forrestfolk605
7 ай бұрын
@@UntamedOutdoorsmen looking forward to seeing it on the water. Keep up the great work the videos! Great build, beautiful boat.
@kenestra123
6 ай бұрын
So you just reuse the hardware that was already in the mounting holes when you receive the kayak,not the hardware that comes in the bag when mounting the Native plate and the puck,correct?
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
6 ай бұрын
No. The plate comes with longer bolts. You just take the stock ones out and use the longer bolts instead.
@bobbybass1944
4 ай бұрын
How do you like the battery ?? Can't decide what battery to get for trolling motor , it's definitely going to be lithium
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
4 ай бұрын
Yeah lithium is an essential lol. I love it no issues for me.
@bobbybass1944
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for answering my ? I have one more ? , my bonafide motor kit came with a 60amp breaker for my xi3 tm , do I need another one for the lithium battery ??? I suck at electrical work . Thanks man
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
4 ай бұрын
@@bobbybass1944 you will need one for your entire MotorGuide XI3 setup. Regardless of the battery.
@bobbybass1944
4 ай бұрын
Hey guys , I want to order the same plug , stupid question, but you mentioned you marked the positive side , Does the plug have positive and negative symbols to tell you ???
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
4 ай бұрын
I don’t believe so. Just match them up the way you put it in on the other side and you’ll be ok.
@bobbybass1944
4 ай бұрын
Ok thanks
@19mij73
7 ай бұрын
How are you raising and lowering the xi3 from the seat?
@19mij73
7 ай бұрын
You 2 work amazing together and are putting out a great quality series.
@UntamedOutdoorsmen
7 ай бұрын
By hand. I did it on my 133x no problem. If it proves to be too annoying we’ll add the raise and lower lines.
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