That bow at the end of that spin just made it perfect
@jayson657
5 жыл бұрын
The Eldorado TC would have been awesome if they would have put the same Buick 3.8 V6 Turbo they put in the Grand National. Instead they gave you the 4.1 Liter boat anchor.
@joeyccs
4 жыл бұрын
I love the workers on the early Motorweek...they were characters
@rpsmith2990
4 жыл бұрын
@@jayson657 Something like it was available at your Buick dealer. It was called the Riviera T-Type. Of course, that turbo wasn't up to GNX levels of power at the time...
@dchawk81
7 жыл бұрын
Love the way Stig's granddad jumped out of the car and took a deep bow.
@fernandorocha8459
Жыл бұрын
I love Cadillac Eldorado 1980s, 1985, 1986, 1987 and 1988 is my favorite
@allentoyokawa9068
Жыл бұрын
Grandpa
@rickjames6647
8 жыл бұрын
"We need a sporty Cadillac gentlemen! How much more per unit would it cost to put in the 350 TPI corvette motor?" "$140 sir" "What!?!? Nevermind! Just paint the trim moldings."
@TeeroyHammermill
8 жыл бұрын
LOL! must have been a bunch of noodle spined nerds running GM back then. Scared to try anything different.
@mosesberkowitz3298
7 жыл бұрын
This is so true. GM was building some real crapboxes in the early 80's but that '84 Corvette was awesome at the time.
@thomasofone
7 жыл бұрын
Rick James have you not seen any of the CTV models? also GM put a Cadi body on the Vette chasis and motor. I forgot what it was called tho. only made it 1-2 years. bad ass too
@thomasofone
7 жыл бұрын
osp80 CTS-V yes. what was that "Vette" styled one Cadi had? that was a bad ass mama jamma!
@thomasofone
7 жыл бұрын
XLR!!!
@LocDawgd
9 жыл бұрын
Funny, my dad owns an 84 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz with only 60k orig miles. He's made it completely cherry with restored upholstery, a new vinyl top, new paint and whatnot. It's definitely a smooth cruiser and an eye catcher on the road
@landyachtfan79
9 жыл бұрын
I have been laughing my ass off at 2:49 for 25 years whenever I would see it on your blooper/outtake reels in the anniversary shows, & it is GREAT to finally see the test that it came from!!!!
@frankbergmanII
9 жыл бұрын
My '85 had 5 cigrit lighters and ashtrays. If you push them all at once it blows the fuse.
@E34Benzin
9 жыл бұрын
Lol. You tried? That's awesome.:)
@Guy_de_Loimbard
8 жыл бұрын
LOL
@skylinefever
8 жыл бұрын
+frankbergmanII Yeah, the number of lighters and ashtrays declined along with smoking rates. I remember in 1999, seeing new American cars that required an optional ashtray that took up space in the cupholder. My mom bought a new Honda CRV then, there was still an ashtray, but there was a dust cover where the lighter would have been.
@cmauchi29
8 жыл бұрын
+frankbergmanII Today evey passanger can charge their mobile phone if they don't smoke
@frankbergmanII
8 жыл бұрын
I encouraged a car full of classmates to light up back there. We called it "the emphysema cruiser". I picked it up for 50 bucks and drove it til knocky the rod bearing eating 4.1 decided to let go. I miss the Eldorado more than any other car. It was built in a time before the nanny state had a firm grasp on everyone and everything. When men were men and women were good cooks, and you could drive a car with a bench seat and a column shift without offending somebody. RIP knocky
@DUSM
5 жыл бұрын
After the 'controllable spin', I loved how the driver got out to 'take a bow' at the 2:56 mark! Purposeful and well done sir.
@dvamateur
6 жыл бұрын
I've always loved square cars with quad headlights, grill, and slanted rear. It feels as American as Peterbilt or Harley-Davidson. Square car looks formal, beautiful, business like. Just like suit, tie, and aviation sun glasses. Curvy and sensual might be okay at times, but not all the time.
@JamesBond-hu9rg
2 жыл бұрын
Chrysler had the firsts Quad headlights Caddy copied them but Chrysler s was upside down.
@oliverkalamata2753
Жыл бұрын
I know exactly what you're saying. what I'd give for a first gen. mint condition black Town Car...
@dougtaylor2803
4 ай бұрын
Hear hear! Love this look. Learned to drive in a 76 Chrysler New Yorker Brougham. 2 door, black with deep red leather interior. Over 5300 pounds. Absolutely LOVED that car and would like to find one.
@wall-e3313
2 жыл бұрын
Here's a fun project. I know because I got it most of the way there. Take an 84 Eldorado with a bad HT4100 and swap with a 350 from a 78 Olds 88. Use a front engine mount from an early 80's Toro or Riv that had a 307 V8. The 350 blick was already tapped and threads were goid. Bolts right to the transaxle so no worries there. Possible downside: Divorce. This project wasn't the only factor, but didn't help. Hope y'all have better results should you choose to attempt it.
@eightosaurusspelunk1598
6 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when my aunt bought my uncle his "dream car". He'd been a Mopar guy and had always talked about wanting a 70's Mopar muscle car. Well, in 2002 my sweet aunt drove by a local dealer that had the Chrysler, Dodge and Mopar sign outside. In the lot was a used 74 Cadillac Eldorado. Not knowing anything about cars and only seeing that it was at a Mopar shop, she bought it. It was really clean and she paid way more than she should've. Anyways, no one else had seen the car and we were only told she bought him muscle car. So my brother and I drove over one day and took him out to lunch like we did sometimes (He was in his mid 60's at this point) and while we were gone she had it brought over and put in the garage. When we came back and hit the garage door opener, there it was... a 74 Eldorado and a proud aunt with an ear to ear smile. My uncle didn't know what to do and stood there sooooooooo long. He hated GM. And it wasn't even a muscle car. He ended up coming clean later that day and told her it'd be best if they sold it. It sure was funny for my brother and me.
@anajay78
9 жыл бұрын
The pimps choice of 80's transportation.
@angelinacortalano3741
7 жыл бұрын
And Lincoln!
@scdevon
7 жыл бұрын
And chain wearing grease-balls in the NJ, Philly, New York area.
@santinocafarella5151
5 жыл бұрын
scdevon woooah. Easy there
@dinopappous6639
4 жыл бұрын
Most pimps were still pimpin boat tail Rivs well into the 80's.....
@warrenny
4 жыл бұрын
The pimp at 5:50 would def rock this caddy with two D's for a double dose of the pimping.
@genebigs1749
7 жыл бұрын
I had an '81, Black with Burgundy interior. I LOVED that car and wish I never sold it. I've owned many beautiful cars since then, but this is the only one I regret ever selling. A beautiful, timeless design, and I never could duplicate the feeling I had when driving it!
@man_on_wheelz
8 жыл бұрын
That stunt/test driver looks like he's having a fucking blast!
@RocasThePenguin
8 жыл бұрын
That opening statement could have been for the next 20 years with regards to Cadillac.
@2dfx
8 жыл бұрын
The art & science models, starting with the CTS in 2003, was the beginning of Cadillac's resurgence.
@MrMusic-ob2jj
8 жыл бұрын
Yay.. Exactly, I found in my mind before I found it here in the comment section.
@TeeroyHammermill
8 жыл бұрын
I thought it was the 2000 Deville with the Night Vision and Touch Screen Navigation. It wore the most recent Cadillac Badge.
@hakeemsd70m
7 жыл бұрын
dstarks80 I love those 2000 DeVilles. Such beautiful cars, I hope to own one one day.
@cristiannicolae6309
8 жыл бұрын
30 years later, you can get 130 HP from a 1.0 liter 4 cylinder.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
+Cristian Nicolae Amazing how technology has come and what it can do. Remember this was the 80's and wasn't known for great engines or performance.
@jannevaatainen
6 жыл бұрын
Ford Ecoboost 0.9l 3 cylinder has 125hp, so yes, 135hp from a 4.1l V8 is just pathetic. It was even in the 80's though.
@cripto1366
6 жыл бұрын
Janne Väätäinen Its an old school luxury car, speed and efficiency was not the priority with these vehicles.
@1SaG
6 жыл бұрын
No need to jump 30 years ahead. You could get 110 hp from a 1,6 liter 4 pot in 1976 in the Mk I Golf GTI. Mid 80s, you could get 136/129 hp from a 1.8 16V in the Mk II GTI 16V or 150 hp from a 2.0 in the Opel Kadett GSI 16V.
@benjafovi1cr328
5 жыл бұрын
Cristian Nicolae Lol--Yeah, with the A/C on fullblast! Lol
@ericsmith-pl9sn
9 жыл бұрын
Took many road trips in an 82 Eldorado and 82 Toranado. Just amazing road cars very comfortable. Took my driving test in the 82 Eldorado and passed the parallel parking.
@ParadoxdesignsOrg
9 жыл бұрын
who cares if its slow? this thing is pimpin'!
@intomatrix1
9 жыл бұрын
It would be fine with a ctsv engine now lol. 135hp even for 1984 was bollocks.
@scdevon
9 жыл бұрын
+daz samuels 4100 V8s were bog slow in these 3800 lb. sleds even by 1984 standards.
@nathanmcdonald610
8 жыл бұрын
+paradoxdesigns I haven't heard something referred to as (pimpin) in 20 years.
@SteveHolsten
6 жыл бұрын
That's right! The engine will get us from point A to B.
@jackjohnson7396
5 жыл бұрын
Right..
@dougholdem2898
4 жыл бұрын
I walked into Patrick Cadillac in 1984 and wrote out a check for $24k at the age of 28 and bought an Eldorado. One thing I remember is Cadillac went to an aluminum hood to save weight. Only problem was the aluminum expanded and contracted with changing Chicago weather differently than the paint so the paint started to spider web.
@OLDS98
9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting more GM videos like this. I look forward to more GM stories and tests from the past, They did the Eldorado Touring Coupe again in 1988-1990 again and then in 1992 with the redesign it was the high end Eldorado. At the end it was Cadillac ETC.
@ephraimfink9010
4 жыл бұрын
You (we all) can make fun of the motors a bit, but my father had this car and it was the bomb. When he brought it home it was the first electronic digital dash ever seen. I used to pretend it was KITT lol. Drove like a dream in a cloud too. Very reliable even the engine and cool style.
@WAQWBrentwood
8 жыл бұрын
A traditional Caddy body with "blackout" trim just looks wrong, like it was a cheap repaint without any masking tape!
@hakeemsd70m
5 жыл бұрын
I agree, and those muscle car tires have to go, nothing like them belongs on a Caddy!
@blancaw6280
9 жыл бұрын
4:59 Those were some slippery seats! I remember when my pocket book slid off the seat and became entangled in my high heal causing a crash in to a concrete pillar. Fun times!
@northamericanauto43
6 жыл бұрын
Blanca W Did you have any injuries.
@QthAgR8
6 жыл бұрын
Blanca W 👀👀👀
@angrycatowner
6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, she broke a breast implant in that accident.
@bliglum
4 жыл бұрын
Such great uploads. LOVE these Retro Reviews!
@whackamolechamp
5 жыл бұрын
The El Dorado was interesting, if you pushed the buttons on the climate control in a certain sequence it would display trouble codes in 3 numbers. You needed to have a shop manual to decipher the codes though. It was an early OBD.
@TheOzthewiz
11 ай бұрын
And, the codes for OBD-1 were NOT stored in memory!
@Mr_Chris77
5 жыл бұрын
When the guy jumped out of the car after he spun it around, I thought he was gonna vomit as fast as he jumped out.
@AmericanStig-3
9 жыл бұрын
Power and Speed are irrelevant when it comes to cars like this. It's all about style and saying to other mere mortals "Hey, see this, it means I'm better than you.".
@231gnx
3 жыл бұрын
How is 13 sec 0-60 times ok?I had a diesel Chevette that was faster!
@aaron.hudacky
2 жыл бұрын
@@231gnx I agree... luxury to me includes power, or at least reasonable performance, which these cars didn't have.
@TassieLorenzo
Жыл бұрын
I like how 2:31 through the slalom is the most watched moment. It's pure comedy! 😂🙂
@superkryp13
2 жыл бұрын
"The 4 wheel disc brakes did a splendid job!" He says as the car loses control and slides sideways lol
@scottwitkowski1298
8 жыл бұрын
I remember my pastor bought a new Eldorado in the early 80's. My folks had an old dodge diplomat. I remember riding in back seat of that comfortable caddie, the smell of the leather and the smooth ride. That's when my love for Cadillacs began. Nothing beats the feelings that an old Cadillac stirs up.
@scottwitkowski1298
7 жыл бұрын
Fuck off
@jdodd9801635
7 жыл бұрын
Scott Witkowski So he did huh?
@philipbrown4788
7 жыл бұрын
You sound like a real jerk JAY DEE
@jdodd9801635
7 жыл бұрын
Philip Brown How am I a Jerk? I just asked a question.
@jacksonhikes1344
7 жыл бұрын
+Jay Dee you sound like a real bitch Jay Dee
@heliscat
8 жыл бұрын
Hand cut dashboard from genuine 3/8" plywood.....
@troyp9485
5 жыл бұрын
Edward Bernard it was plastic
@MallocFree90
4 жыл бұрын
@@troyp9485 it's irony
@pcno2832
4 жыл бұрын
Simulated lifelike plywood.
@ryansrides9714
4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video motor week. Gorgeous Cadillac!!! Please make more videos!! Your the best!!
@coolvid
7 жыл бұрын
These Caddys had bad brakes, under performing Engines, suspension that a water bed would be envious of, but if you drive it, there's just a feeling of nostalgia, the smell of real leather, steering with my pinky, it just takes me back to a chill time.
@ddellwo
5 жыл бұрын
Love the body style of this era Eldorado, although I prefer the more traditional look of the formal models. Lovely cars from a bygone era!
@jewllake
9 жыл бұрын
Those early delco radios were no joke! Even the non bose radios kicked butt.
@kevinpatrickmacnutt
9 жыл бұрын
They sounded good, but were terribly unreliable. My father had a similar radio in a Pontiac 6000, but instead of the Bose amps and speakers, it had a five band EQ as well as AM stereo. After a year, FM stopped working in stereo. We could still get AM stereo, but FM, except on cold mornings, would only play in mono. The Blaupunkt sourced cassette transport started having tracking issues and ate tapes regularly (probably why Audi and VW radios have always had Panasonic sourced transports). All in all, a great sounding radio, when you could get it to work properly.
@TeeroyHammermill
8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin MacNutt I don't recall having that many radio problems with my 80's GM delco radios. By the time they started having problems, the were atleast 10 years old and the car had well over 100,000 miles by then.
@starxlr7863
9 жыл бұрын
These are the cars that I own myself. I glad someone finally posted a motor week video on this car. Thanks!!!!!!
@jessebrueshaber6915
5 жыл бұрын
Just bought an '84 Eldorado. White with a VERY red interior. So far I'm loving it.
@Nightbird.
5 жыл бұрын
Keep us updated on how well it ages. Good luck!
@Brownalicious
4 жыл бұрын
Love the Kenny Rogers on the Delco/BOSE stereo!
@gages9061
3 жыл бұрын
The gambler right?
@Brownalicious
3 жыл бұрын
@@gages9061 sure is
@chrisxaf1237
6 жыл бұрын
the olds 307 would be a great option for this car
@joshuabrazile
5 жыл бұрын
The dude testing the car is CRUSHING it with that mustache!
@tasaab
3 жыл бұрын
We had a regular 85 Eldorado........dealer left over, for some reason had every single option offered by Cadillac, even the rare ones......dual power recliners, memory seats along with all the other popular options.
@moelll
9 жыл бұрын
A Buick 3.8 turbo would go great with this caddy
@TA1199
7 жыл бұрын
It would depend on the gearing ratios of the Transmission and front diff.
@meleepinata
6 жыл бұрын
That would make a fun sleeper
@MrCarguy2
6 жыл бұрын
Front wheel drive? no thanks
@carlosg1165
5 жыл бұрын
Riviera had 3.8 turbo goes to 60 mph in 8 seconds .
@RockandrollNegro
5 жыл бұрын
@@carlosg1165 My Regal GS goes 0-60 in 6.6 seconds. Superchargers > Turbos on the 3.8 motors. Come to think of it, Superchargers are better on anything with more than 4 cylinders.
@mcqueenfanman
9 жыл бұрын
Those caddys had junk motors, they should have kept the olds 350 in production.
@yoyoleone
5 жыл бұрын
mcqueenfanman the gas crisis stopped all that.
@RedfishCarolina
4 жыл бұрын
Despite the fact that those engines sucked just as much gas as the Olds 350.
@johnniecristaldi
4 жыл бұрын
I had the 79 Baritz with the 350ci Olds engine and no engine problems ever!
@ephraimfink9010
3 жыл бұрын
Or Chevy 350 V8. 5.7L
@mcqueenfanman
3 жыл бұрын
@@ephraimfink9010 Wouldn't be an easy swap with the fwd transmission, oil filter and starter are on the wrong side.
@nvrndingsmmr
3 жыл бұрын
That dashboard looks so amazing!
@bws1971
3 жыл бұрын
Drop a modern LS in a well-preserved example of this, and we can talk. I love the looks.
@WAQWBrentwood
8 жыл бұрын
A "big whale"? by 1984 standards it's a mid sizer. When it was new at the end of the 1970s, it wasn't much bigger than a "compact" Chevrolet Nova.
@littleflags
9 жыл бұрын
this guy and his mustache 5:48
@SaidHead2
4 жыл бұрын
The legend that IS Craig Singhaus right there.
@Johngengelbach2
3 жыл бұрын
My dad back then had an 85 Eldorado Biarritz white with red leather. It was a beautiful car.
@martinmartin5904
6 жыл бұрын
The brakes did a splendid job ...Magnificent straight line !
@aleksandarandreev6451
9 жыл бұрын
"Quick, but controllable spin" hahaahahhahahaa
@erikhertzer8434
6 жыл бұрын
Aleksandar Andreev :imagine that “controllable spin” in traffic...
@billwilmington8284
9 жыл бұрын
Bravo to the driver from 2:50 to 3:00. Hahaha
@SaidHead2
4 жыл бұрын
Craig's bow was perfect
@styldsteel1
6 жыл бұрын
That stunt driver is awesome. I like him! lol
@jarforsythe
5 жыл бұрын
THE EMERGENCY MANEUVER HAD ME DYING
@letsgonow5641
8 жыл бұрын
Perfect pimp mobile.. i would love to have one in pristine condition..
@breytonlemons3389
8 жыл бұрын
it's not expensive thank god I'm 16 now I'm tryin save up for one so I want have to take the shitty azz bus anymore
@letsgonow5641
5 жыл бұрын
Easy to fix to....
@RetroGamerVX
8 жыл бұрын
My god, I don't usually like American cars but I can only wonder about the storm this would have created if it had come over here to the UK in 1984!!! Would have looked so futuristic for it's time.
@WAQWBrentwood
8 жыл бұрын
Imagine how futuristic it would have been if they had this package available in 1979 when this platform came out. Unfortunately, They ended up dumping this platform in '86.
@JimJones-zc9mk
8 жыл бұрын
+RetroGamerVX It's still futuristic in Cuba, LOL ! ! !
@fernandorocha7457
5 жыл бұрын
Cadillac Eldorado 79-85, 85 is my year favorite
@chrisdooley6468
8 жыл бұрын
13sec!! Wow I forgot how slow they were. Nice rims - they look like my Grand National wheels :)
@scdevon
9 жыл бұрын
"How many 4100 engines does a Cadillac Eldorado have"? (As many as the owner can afford).
@lenovovo
8 жыл бұрын
+scdevon I know that's right ... LOL ...
@dynodon8592
8 жыл бұрын
+LENOVOVO You are so right! lol
@69eddieD
8 жыл бұрын
+scdevon I changed the head gaskets on my 4100 at 110K miles. They had been changed once already under warranty at 27K miles. The HT4100 was a great idea that was implemented poorly. Look at the aluminum V8 engines today - big difference. And look at what Cadillac is doing today! It's not really my cup of tea but they've made some excellent cars in the last ten years or so. My 4100 (in a Coupe de Ville) provided acceptable performance when it was running right. Highway mileage was pretty good too. Another advantage of the 4100 over the usual land yachts of the day is that they were lighter than the boat anchor blocks, which translates directly into better handling.
@69eddieD
8 жыл бұрын
I got rid of it. It ran for 6 years and 80K miles more and it was knocking badly. I know what you're talking about because I changed the head gaskets and oil pump myself. The block is supported by a girdle and ridiculously long head bolts. It really sucks.
@EarlGuyton425
8 жыл бұрын
+scdevon So true! That awful engine 4.1 was an aluminum block with cast iron heads and was only 251 cubic inches and Cadillac had the gaul to put that little engine in the full size devilles even. Now that Eldorado and the full size were good cars by 1985 when they began using the 307 oldsmobile cast iron V8
@Drewbygus
8 жыл бұрын
The tires and rims do not look right for that car.
@tonychavez2083
9 жыл бұрын
the slant back Seville of 1980 was quite a sight to see in the dealership when it came out. Penske Cadillac in Menlo Park CA had the fanciest showroom you ever saw!
@johnls39
9 жыл бұрын
I surely do missed this generation Eldorado, '79-'85 model. Too bad you don't see hardly any of them on the streets anymore. This Eldorado is not my favorite generation of Eldorados but it had road presence at that time.
@chrislong8986
4 жыл бұрын
I wished they tested the 1971 to 1978 generation that was my favorite
@71plymouth.
8 жыл бұрын
I'm a Mopar guy but its impossible to resist not looking at GMs. this is my favorite Cadillac I don't rightly know the years this body ran but I'm sure it was running in 1979 because HB halicki used two in the junkman. I especially like this sleek black 84 model with those white letter tires. thumbs up.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
+71 Plymouth. Yes this was 1979-1985 Eldorado. I have a 1985 Eldorado Biarritz coupe finished in canary yellow. Take a look at my channel and you will see it.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
+71 Plymouth. My favorite years for Mopar's are mostly the 50's and 60's era and my top favorite model is hands down the Chrysler Imperial from 1955 - 1968 only.
@71plymouth.
8 жыл бұрын
+AMCNorthstar 93 Hey,thanks for the reply,I'll be sure to check your 85 out,ought to be real interesting with that color combo on it,I see you like the BIG Mopar: imperial,yep that is the real definition of the word boat, hahaha,its a real big car. I'll check your video right now,see you in a second.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
71 Plymouth. Yes I love the old Chrysler from the 50s and 60s. Those Imperials I would have to say are my top favorite even more than Cadillac and Lincoln during those years. I thought there was such great styling, options and performance from these cars that never really came back. Chrysler tried bringing back the Imperial nameplate at least twice and failed both times. But I also love most of the other model mopar's during the same years as well. To me they were the best years for Chrysler. I love the 50s/early 60's era!
@71plymouth.
8 жыл бұрын
AMCNorthstar 93 Yep,you're exactly right up to a tee on everything you said.
@saladbucket2528
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the '79 - '85 Eldorado. Saving up so I can get myself one as a college graduation present. If anyone at GM's reading this, just know that there is still a market among young buyers for stylish, comfortable cruisers.
@LearnAboutFlow
3 жыл бұрын
saving up? Aren't these like $1,000?
@saladbucket2528
3 жыл бұрын
@@LearnAboutFlow I've never seen a really good one for less than 6. It's not a lot, but also just because I have that much doesn't mean I can afford to spend that much.
@LearnAboutFlow
3 жыл бұрын
@@saladbucket2528 Well, good luck, keeping in mind you're buying an unreliable 40 year old car that may not even have replacement parts available anymore. So if you're stretching to buy it in the first place, you should also take into consideration ongoing maintenance. But if you are a mechanic or mechanically inclined then it could be worth it. I say this from experience as I bought a very cheap German car owned by a mechanic but it still became a money pit.
@landyachtfan79
8 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me what that beautiful area is that you were in at the beginning of this test?!!! I have also seen it in the '86 RX-7 test you uploaded a few weeks ago as well as briefly in your Detroit New Car Previews that I have on DVD. It looks like some sort of lumework or grist mill.
@san379
9 жыл бұрын
ITS A GORGEOUS CLASSIC AND WILL GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS A KEEPER RARE BARN FIND
@jdonns2221
9 жыл бұрын
Think this car has aged really well.
@kz1000ps
9 жыл бұрын
Joseph Rogers Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@kevinpatrickmacnutt
9 жыл бұрын
Compared to what? Soviet cars of the same era?
@seinsmeld13
8 жыл бұрын
+Kevin MacNutt Have you driven a Lada?
@Barberdan
8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Rogers The styling but not the drive train. I agree.
@zacharylagler242
8 жыл бұрын
+Dan Buker I agree, all Caddy's should be RWD
@Onry1
6 жыл бұрын
Love the bow, power plant problems quickly? Like the piston sleeves dropping out the bottom of the block.
@TVHouseHistorian
4 жыл бұрын
These had amazingly well behaved suspensions for being such big cars, especially for their time. You could slam on the brakes, and there was almost no nosedive. Then from a dead stop you could stomp on the accelerator and the rear end wouldn't crouch down. Except when you think about it, the engine probably wasn't powerful enough for that to happen. Eldos a few years earlier had a huge problem with the brake booster failing, among other things.
@jas4925
5 жыл бұрын
Probablly needed head gaskets after the track time!
@jas4925
3 жыл бұрын
Ha ha I was thinking the same thing lol!
@gilbertjuarez8898
8 жыл бұрын
5.7 v8 350 Cadillac Eldorado was the best
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
That was only for the 1979 model year. The 6.0L was also a good engine. But even those two engines were very underpowered like the 4100 V8. But again that was the era and most cars were very slow during those years.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
***** Yes that was a good engine the 8.2L or 500 cubic inch V8. Originally available only for the Eldorado beginning in 1970 and ending production in 1976. The power ratings dropped drastically beginning in 1974 as they were cut across the board on all passenger vehicles. The 425 engine would be its replacement starting for the 1977 model year. Good engine but low power ratings. In my opinion, one of the better Cadillac engines from the older era would be the 390/429 engines from 1959-67. I have a 1961 Cadillac with the 390 V8 and its much better in several ways than the later 500 and 425 engines. Its more powerful and also much much more fuel efficient.
@DA90027
7 жыл бұрын
they should have used the 3.8 V6 which was a great engine bulletproof and good mileage. None of these cars needed a V8
@starxlr7863
7 жыл бұрын
Cadillac's for yesterday all should have a V8 engine and nothing less. The GM 3.8L V6 would not have the power to pull these big cars around very efficiently. These were just not good years for engines across the board except for only a couple models.
@DA90027
7 жыл бұрын
AMCNorthstar 93 are you kidding? I had a 86 Olds Regency 98 same size as Eldo 3.8 pulled it with lots of power and 25 mpg to boot
@robertmacdonald4518
2 жыл бұрын
My dad had the 79' Eldo navy blue leather tufted , navy blue paint, stainless roof, car was striking everyone loved that car when it pulled up my mom practically cried when dad came home with it ! The key on this design was the 79' 80' had the Oldsmobile rocket 350ci with at that time amazing TBI fuel injection gave it reliability and good for time power yhose are the one's to get!
@SneakerFreakPhilly
Жыл бұрын
I like when they gave the opinions of other MW staff on the early episodes.
@hupfernum
8 жыл бұрын
I didn't know this was a FWD vehicle. Wow, what a blow to my fantasy!
@birdcall2422
8 жыл бұрын
+Jason Hupfer Likewise
@birdcall2422
8 жыл бұрын
+Jason Hupfer The eldorado has been FWD since 1967 which sucks because the look of the seventh generation cadillac is my favorite look.
@hupfernum
8 жыл бұрын
Whoa! I did NOT know that!
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
+Birdcall24 Why does that suck?? That's one of the top reasons why they were so popular and stood out from the rest and from its rival the Lincoln Mark coupe.
@birdcall2422
8 жыл бұрын
AMCNorthstar 93 Personal preference, no burnouts, no fun, the car seems out of proportion, all the weight of the drivetrain over the front end, wears tires fast in the front, torque steer . It's just my opinion, I own a lincoln mark viii (96) its front engine rwd layout, and it's a blast to drive. I could have gotten the fwd 1996 eldorado but it had the shit northstar in it. rwd is they way the original american personal luxury cars were back in the day and thats the way they should stay. If you like the 80s fwd eldorado, more power to you, but id get the fleetwood coupe or the coupe deville if i were so inclined to buy a cadi, again, just my opinion
@jezuzfreek777
8 жыл бұрын
13.1 0-60 That thing is a dog.
@oldtwins
8 жыл бұрын
+jezuzfreek777 True that. Chevy Aveo feels like a Ferrari compared to this boat.
@thebonefish
6 жыл бұрын
But it has a VEEEE8888 LOL
@northamericanauto43
6 жыл бұрын
Especially a V8
@ahmed197467
6 жыл бұрын
Slow, isn't it?
@ahmed197467
6 жыл бұрын
Givanni what do you mean? shame on you
@RedfishCarolina
4 жыл бұрын
I had an 85 Riviera.. In 1997 lol. I loved that car. Slow as hell but dang was it slick.
@lamontmcdaniels322
4 жыл бұрын
What type of engine you remember?
@RedfishCarolina
4 жыл бұрын
@@lamontmcdaniels322 Mine had the Olds 307 (vin Y). Slick as glass, durable, but definitely not fast. I may have the year wrong, but it was the last year of the 307 Riviera I believe.
@Daytona574
6 жыл бұрын
Never really liked this generation of Eldo, but in this trim it looks damn good. I'd like to get one and drop some modern power in it!
@chevy-is-a-good-boy
5 жыл бұрын
Modern engineering with old-school style, would be make cars interesting again. Most cars look like fancy toasters these days.
@SouthshoreVice
9 жыл бұрын
I love these but would take a Mark VII over this any day of the week
@jimbobjimbob8275
6 жыл бұрын
Oscar Ogg I used to own a MK vii would take one of these over it any day of the week!
@doctorlawrence4676
Жыл бұрын
Love these old cars
@aaron.hudacky
9 жыл бұрын
These are great looking cars except in Touring Coupe trim. White letter tires and blacked out trim are the equivalent of a four-wheeled mullet, but I like the interior and wheels. If they had retained the 1980 Cadillac 368 or 1979 Oldsmobile 350 throughout the 79-85 run I think these would be remembered more favorably, but there's no excuse for the poor, noisy performance and miserable reliability of the 4.1. My favorite Eldorado generation is 1967-1970 because of their styling, engines and build quality.
@ponchoman49
2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call the 4100's noisy. In fact these were pretty smooth quiet engines at the time. the reliability was terrible on the early engines and improved quite a bit by 1985. The biggest thing was to follow the maintenance schedule by the book. Owners that did that generally had better luck from what I have seen and quite a few of these are still driving around at car shows and Summer drivers with the original engine.
@aaron.hudacky
2 жыл бұрын
@@ponchoman49 Compared to the 425 and 368, I consider the 4100 noisy because it lacks the torque to get up to speed and the power to stay there, so it's downshifting a lot. I worked in a Cadillac service department in the 90's, and people who had been there in the 80s remember a constant row of 4100 cars awaiting Goodwrench engine replacements. While I worked there, a woman with a beautiful 1986 Coupe deVille in a purple/mauve color came in for engine noise. Her car needed new main bearings, lifters, and cam at 25,000 miles due to coolant leaking into the oil via a leak in the intake manifold coolant passage; she was the original owner, and all of her services had been done at the correct mileage/time intervals at the dealer. It's a shame Cadillac allowed this engine to production in the state it was in because I think it resulted in a lot of lost customers, although luckily the 4.5 and 4.9 engines largely remedied the 4100's problems and drove considerably better. I love the appearance of most of the cars the 4100 came in, and like the look of the 4100 with their nice chrome or aluminum valve covers. I just wish they were more durable.
@ScaryGhost1
9 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the 80s. When that guys hairstyle and glasses were still acceptable. Such a depraved era
@39Hundred
9 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the guy's Tom Selleck/porn star mustache.
@MaestroTJS
9 жыл бұрын
ScaryGhost1 And he was quite proud of it too! 5:48
@05gtdriver
9 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, in 30 year's time today's disheveled look and scraggly beards will look bizarre and funny......
@SuperBooboo02
9 жыл бұрын
05gtdriver got that right
@M.L.1
2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was a Cadillac dealer back in the 70s & 80s. My dad had an Eldorado Touring Coupe. It was a unique vehicle that was a bit un Cadillac like. I think a bit ahead of it's time & not quite on par. My dad always preferred a firm European type vehicle. He always equipped his Cadillacs with HD suspension and/or touring suspension.
@soulstance
8 жыл бұрын
The darkest era of Cadillac...
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
Both 70s and 80s were not the best years for Cadillac or the other brands.
@scottwitkowski1298
8 жыл бұрын
+AMCNorthstar 93 Yeah, but it's beautiful and rides great. Imagine a Northstar under the hood, and that would be a dream car.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
Scott Witkowski Yes its funny you should say that because I'm wanting to drop a Northstar V8 into an 84 Seville. I have been wanting to do it for a while now. I had an 85 Eldorado Biarritz but I recently sold it. But my 84 Seville is starting to develop some internal engine problems and its a perfect time to do an engine swap and have it remain Cadillac powered. :)
@scottwitkowski1298
8 жыл бұрын
+AMCNorthstar 93 Awesome!!! If you get it done, please post a vid. My neighbor is working on a 472 swap in a 88 fleetwood, I'll try to post a vid when he's done.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
Scott Witkowski Oh yes believe me I will post some vids. Apparently no one else has done this kind of swap before on an early 80's FWD Eldorado or Seville. I really want the modern day power and efficiency of the Northstar V8 in it instead of any of the older engines like the 307, 350 and such. But I am determined to somehow do it. And that's great that your neighbor is doing the same in the 88 Fleetwood.
@MrGoldenwaffler
9 жыл бұрын
Love the looks of this series. Yeah, they have their issues (4.1) but the styling transcends time and space
@krystalburton6905
6 жыл бұрын
Classic! Wish I could own one now
@North49191
6 жыл бұрын
I drove lots of those in the 80's, nice cars
@lfsracer79
9 жыл бұрын
2:44 That is one of the worst handling cars I've seen. It's a death trap...
@QthAgR8
6 жыл бұрын
lfsracer79 😁😁😁
@e.a.p3174
5 жыл бұрын
0-60 in 13 seconds. Wow I'm underwhelmed. Of course the speed limit across the country was a ridiculous 55mph. No wonder people switched to Mercedes , BMW and Audi.
@V8_screw_electric_cars
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think was rolls royce 0-60 back then
@jameshardin1100
4 жыл бұрын
I had a white 83 Biarritz model with the Astro Roof. Total pimp ride.
@joseduranjr3152
5 жыл бұрын
Can those 1983-1985 Eldorados be swapped with the Oldsmobile 307 engine?
@damagingspark7
8 жыл бұрын
That Eldorado is fucking sweet. That blacked out trim won me over so I guess it does appeal to the younger crowd. I love these kinds of old land yachts. They're just so damn manly. This is the kind of car that will make you want to start smoking. Also for some reason I like the weird design it has with a transversely mounted v8 in this fwd car. I'd like to try to hop up that poor choked smog era engine to see what it can do. I think it would look bad ass with a big supercharger ,mounted transversely with the motor, sticking out of the hood.
@BaltimoreAndOhioRR
8 жыл бұрын
+damagingspark7 the v8 was not mounted transversely, it faced forward as normal
@stephenbianchi7141
8 жыл бұрын
It is mounted longitudinally.
@damagingspark7
8 жыл бұрын
I looked it up and yup you're right. I got it mixed up with the 9th gen '86-'91 models. A newer caddy with the transverse engine layout and a massive supercharger would still be cool though.
@znrctrnn
8 жыл бұрын
Not a good period of time for cars. Makers must have been clueless in how to build power with reasonable economy and long term reliability. Also, 3800lb really isn't a VERY heavy car. At the time car makers still believed that a luxury ride included a suspension made from gummy bears and so the car dives and rolls and like a submarine.
@mr.butterworth4216
8 жыл бұрын
+scott l Makers weren't clueless, as the 50's and 60's saw great strides in power, economy, and reliability. Some of the most well regarded engines came out of those years. But by 1984 they were still struggling to meet the emissions regulations of the last ten years without detuning the hell out of all the engines which is what they all resorted to. This is when a new Corvette made 205 horses… Some systems which addressed fuel economy like Cadillac's V-8-6-4 cylinder deactivation were not very reliable. But you can chalk that up to growing pains, as deactivation is just now coming into it's own in recent years.
@znrctrnn
8 жыл бұрын
+Mista Butterworth I probably should have been more specific. The latter 70's through the mid 80's was the time I was referring to that did not produce notably good cars. When I saw the transverse 1985 GM 3.8 with Sequential Port Fuel injection I began to get a feeling that things were coming around. My parents ending up getting 3 cars with the same engine (gradually more hp). Not a single engine issue. Air con, fuel pump sure those had issues. But going back to say 1979, hydraulic valve lifters needing replacement on a GM 350 in a Bonneville boat at 30,000 miles now that's junk...and the fit and finish was terrible.
@mr.butterworth4216
8 жыл бұрын
scott l Fit and finish issues in the 70's and 80's would have been the result of years of cost cutting in Detroit. For example, it took 58 years for Cadillac to build their three-millionth car, and only 13 years to build their 6 millionth. By the 1970's, emphasis in Detroit was definitely on cost-cutting and production volume over quality. With the proverbial budget bean counters dictating what even the most talented engineers could offer. Naturally though, with import brands coming to the forefront with higher quality products, taking advantage of Detroit's complacency, that could not continue. That's the good thing about market competition, everyone has to bring their best. Which is why GM and the other US automakers gradually regained their edge, which they're still fighting to keep.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
+scott l Yes the 70's and 80's were not great years for cars in general. However of all of them only the Cadillac's and Lincoln's were your best choices for these years. Not every model was great but most were good like this generation Eldorado. These years was also not great years for engines or performance either. Not until the 90's did cars start changing for the better and the power and performance coming back full swing once again like in the 60's. I have an 1985 Eldorado Biarritz and its an excellent car overall. Believe it or not it still feels new and still has that expensive look and feel even though its 30 years old now. Not many cars you can say that about.
@russelljohnson1303
5 жыл бұрын
scott l I must admit gummy bears sounds about right my 1992 deville handles like that.
@TheCRCTeamcom
5 жыл бұрын
Loved the bow!
@tehscope9422
Жыл бұрын
Love those wheels and tire combination I can think of a few modern and vintage cars they'd look good on.
@vector6977
9 жыл бұрын
That body roll though... Damn cars of the 80's failed!
@bliglum
9 жыл бұрын
vector6977 Seems like the 80's were like the dark ages for the auto industry.. So many slow, boring boxes that drive like shit.
@Sonnywitdamoney
9 жыл бұрын
bliglum Grand National..Corvette...iroc Z...TA...SS monte.. are they concidered fails?
@bliglum
9 жыл бұрын
sonnywitdamoney There are always exceptions to any rule, of course. But yes, I would consider all of those "fails". The C4 Vette was awful, as was the TA, Monte and Camaro. The Grand National was the exception.. Though even it still suffered from ugly 80's shoebox syndrome.. I notice you only mentioned GM products, some sort of GM fanboy are ya?
@Sonnywitdamoney
9 жыл бұрын
+bliglum I agree that the 80s c4's were pretty bad..I got a 94 zr1 and alot changed from 84 to 94. I think the lt1 was a turning point for the c4.
@bliglum
9 жыл бұрын
sonnywitdamoney Yeah, there were some improvements made.. But I don't think the Vette became a seriously balanced performance contender again until the C5's arrival in 97' : )
@jasonrogers6346
8 жыл бұрын
LOL Cadillac-" Let's make the Eldorado sporty!" Then puts the emasculated 4.1 V8 that achieves 0-60 in 13.1 seconds. That's pathetic even for the performance dark ages of the early 80's. I do like the body style though! So much wasted potential....
@chemicalnbc5820
8 жыл бұрын
You were born after 1995 right.
@ponchoman49
8 жыл бұрын
In all fairness nothing was even remotely fast in the early 1980's even Mustangs and Corvettes. Mileage, drive-ability and emissions were more important at the time but power was starting to make a comeback by the mid 1980's.
@jasonrogers6346
8 жыл бұрын
+ChemicalNBC Wrong, born in 1981. Like I mentioned in my comment, I realize it was a dark time for performance, but there were bigger and better engines GM could have used. The 84 Hurst/Olds put out around 180hp in the 5.0, and even Buick's Turbo T put out around 200hp. The Eldorado was one of GM's most expensive cars you could buy at the time and G.M. called it sporty. Instead of using some clearly better engines available, they instead went with one of the weakest V8s they had......BTW I'm a lifelong GM buyer and love these old sedans, just saying they deserved and could have gotten better....
@jasonrogers6346
8 жыл бұрын
+ponchoman49 Exactly why I said in my comment that this was the performance dark ages. If you watch the video it said Cadillac was wanting to lure younger buyers. See my comment to " ChemicalNBC. I actually love these old coupes. My original comment was blasting GM for calling something "sporty" and then giving it one of the weakest V8s in the company's lineup. You have to admit GM could have done better even with the emission and fuel economy concerns.
@BuzzLOLOL
7 жыл бұрын
That 251" 4.1L V8 should have been putting out 250 HP instead of a wimpy 135 HP... the automakers were just punishing us consumers for allowing the Govt to put emissions standards on them... And also pleasing the insurance companies that wanted less power...
@7g6_66
9 жыл бұрын
I have an 85 Biarritz classic mint no scrape or anything love it with 42 thousand miles
@derickpouliot5548
2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to see a 4.1 v8. Great engine!. I have a 4.3 v6 in my blazer lol. I would prefer that 4.1 v8 though. I love Cadillac!!!!
@jedw
8 жыл бұрын
13.1 seconds to 60. Oh dear.. LOL. I do like this car's looks however.
@mr.butterworth4216
8 жыл бұрын
+jedw How fast do you need to go? 13.1 seconds 0-60 is really not as bad as it sounds. It's just that today everyone is conditioned to think a car is slow if it doesn't clock that speed in 5 seconds or less. Which is really a gut wrenching time that most people would not be doing on the street even today… Take the 1/4 mile time for example, which is a greater test of accelerative performance. In 1984 this Eldorado made only about 135 horsepower and 190 lb.ft. of torque at the crank, but still accomplished a 1/4 mile time of 19.3 sec. @ 70 mph… Now compare that to a high-performance 2016 Cadillac CTS-V, which runs the 1/4 mile in 11.6 sec. @ 126.1 mph (Motor Trend, July 2015). Now physics would state that the higher the velocity of a moving object, the greater the forces acting against it. Friction, drag, wind resistance and so forth. But whatever the reason, we see that the 2016 car is not even twice as fast as that Eldorado, even in the trap speed. All while having much greater aerodynamics, much more modern tires, 8-speed auto, and producing more than 5 times the power, and more than three times the torque of the 1984 car. So really, that old Eldo is doing much more with what it has.
@weedmastersr
8 жыл бұрын
+jedw My naturally aspirated diesel Peugeot 306 SW gets to 60 in 18 seconds. It's not that bad. You just have to floor it all the time. Still gets 47-50 Mpg.
@jedw
8 жыл бұрын
Everyone makes good points regarding my original comment, but remember this car is a V8 not some econo-box car.
@mr.butterworth4216
8 жыл бұрын
jedw But remember, this was still in the era where V8's were detuned and restricted to meet emissions regulations and improve fuel economy. It took some time for the industry to reconcile power with economy/carbon emissions. Before the 70's, they'd never even had to consider it.
@mr.butterworth4216
8 жыл бұрын
Matt Thompson That emissions regulation is bad was not really part of my statement. We all need and want clean air, that goes without saying. Yes, engine power went from gross to net, but the power loss of the 70's/80's was very real. And emissions regulation, along with new, lower octane unleaded fuel happened to be a big part of why the engines of the 70's/80's stunk in the power department - from the factory at least. You can't fault the engineers for stumbling on new ground, which is exactly what that was. And there is a myriad of things that have made cars faster today. Not just engine power, but very fast auto transmissions with more gears for taking best advantage of the power band, tires of course, traction control and stability programs. Brakes even, which contribute to lap times. I have experience with the S10 equipped with both the Vortec 4.3 V6 and 2.2 I4. The 2.2 is a total lawnmower engine, and probably couldn't beat even this Eldorado to 60, although the 4.3 probably could. It's very torquey, and down right fast when you get on it. And being basically 3/4 of a 350 V8 in a little pickup it would be… The most basic V8 cars today are in the 5.1-5.3 second range to 60. But it's worth noting that there is hardly a V8 car on the market anymore that isn't performance oriented or upmarket.
@joey1127
8 жыл бұрын
The HT4100 almost ended Cadillac! What a POS. That car was so slow and if you pushed it to hard, you would loose your Hook n Tow 4100 V8 in no time at all.
@starxlr7863
8 жыл бұрын
This was not a great time for cars at all and especially engines. But by the 90's, engines, performance and quality improved greatly. The new Seville and Eldorado for 1992 really saved Cadillac and offered up two of the best engines made by Cadillac, the 4.9L OHV V8 and the 4.6L 32 valve Northstar V8. I agree this is my least favorite era for engines. I have 85 Eldorado and 84 Seville and I so badly want to swap in a 32v Northstar in them both!!
@peter455sd
7 жыл бұрын
Better go the LS way
@starxlr7863
7 жыл бұрын
The LS is ok when there is no other choices. But for Cadillac, any Cadillac should remain to be powered by Cadillac and not with just any cookie cutter GM engine.
@laspycrammy1095
6 жыл бұрын
joey1127 the 350 olds engine was better
@SteveHolsten
6 жыл бұрын
I liked the 350 Chevy engine I had in my 1990 Caddy Fleetwood!
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