People saying it was a transfusion: it was not. He was sleeping with men and contracted AIDS. He died of septic pneumonia with only Ellis and Richard by his side. Hope that clears it up.
@DeborahWalkerXOXO
9 ай бұрын
The lives prejudice destroys...
@mangersavoir4213
9 ай бұрын
@@DeborahWalkerXOXOIt's more LYING than prejudice.
@shimerelashea7925
9 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lauramckinney-wallace6853
9 ай бұрын
@@shimerelashea7925 you're welcome!
@DeborahWalkerXOXO
9 ай бұрын
@mangersavoir4213 well, if you look at the time involved and the attitudes of people then many gay men had to live in the closet. Many married women, had families and left those families when society changed. So hatred created the atmosphere for lies, yes.
@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens
10 ай бұрын
How dare doctors ask health related questions. 😳
@jacksbob8746
9 ай бұрын
You should go to asian hospitals.
@cumali6187
9 ай бұрын
Of course they will ask question like that… it will help them to make a dx, and testing HIV is stand test now a days..FYI
@mekning8880
9 ай бұрын
😂😂😂...
@FunkayMunkay4xx
9 ай бұрын
The audacity 😂
@logochi5036
9 ай бұрын
Believe it or not people were more medically ignorant in the 80's than they are now. Lmfao
@guesswho343
10 ай бұрын
He was mad they outed him 😂
@jaggg.3821
9 ай бұрын
Yeah but that still left his girlfriend in danger not aware he could of given her AIDS.
@jaggg.3821
9 ай бұрын
Its probably funny now but in 81 and 82 AIDS was Killing everybody as one man said from New York People were dropping like Flies that's No Joke. My mom was 7 mo. Pregnant with me and in 81 got hit by a drunk Driver thanks be to God my mom weighed over 300 something lbs. So her Fat Saved my life. If she had gotten a blood transfusion while pregnant with me because of that Drunk Drivers selfish Act I might not be here writing this comment. I feel awful bad for the people the babies and so many others who didn't make it for the smallest reasons. I mean Beyonce might not have been if something had happened with her mother and her she was a 81 baby of September. That was the deadliest peak 81/82.
@xavierbryceborja8412
9 ай бұрын
It was a different time. Religious Groups, even the Reagan administration stigmatized the disease to be called “Gay Cancer”. Many gay men hid their true identity simply out of fear, any sign or inclination of being gay risked you being ostracized, or worse. If you had HIV/AIDS, no one not even a great deal of doctors or nurses would come near an AIDS patient, even going as far as leaving their food trays outside their doors. It’s why the ballroom culture was birthed in the 70’ and onward. To help form beacons of community and family for those disowned by society.
@kristahathaway9308
9 ай бұрын
No, he wasn't gay. He got it through a transfusion. They found out
@that_pan_chick8650
9 ай бұрын
@@kristahathaway9308no, I’ve seen this episode, he we sleeping with men.
@tracyg9683
10 ай бұрын
My coworkers father got it from a blood transfusion after a routine bypass procedure in 1983-4. He then gave it to his wife thru heterosexual sexual contact. They both passed away. Their very conservative church friends nearly lost their minds, and my friend was devastated losing both her parents.
@natiliee.s.5476
10 ай бұрын
My God!!! That is simply horrifying.
@Aega1107
10 ай бұрын
Same with my paternal grandfather. Had a heart defect he was born with that they brought him in for heart surgery in 1987. Healthy as a horse. Didn’t make it out of the hospital alive. He stayed in the hospital with complications caused by it but a blood transfusion from someone with aids was suspected.
@KellyDVance
9 ай бұрын
@@Aega1107my husband suspects similar for his dad. His biological father went into the hospital for surgery, was expected to be discharged in a couple days. Instead he died. This was in 1980 and they lived in San Francisco.
@flamingodoodles627
9 ай бұрын
That's honestly funny as fuck
@KellyDVance
9 ай бұрын
@@flamingodoodles627 ew. What is wrong with you?!
@angelinaclark9329
9 ай бұрын
Lexie being the only one who knew grid was aids is a subtle note to her photography memory
@amyhull754
9 ай бұрын
I remember when HIV (the virus itself) was still called HTLV-III. That was its name the first time I ever heard of HIV or AIDS, in 1984/1985.
@HelloWorld2B
8 ай бұрын
Woah and now we are coming into an age where it might not exist in the US in a 5-15ish years. Crazy!
@Stewie_eating_Heisenburger
10 ай бұрын
He's projecting way too much 💀
@jedimando9258
10 ай бұрын
No suprise to be honest. I mean back then when you had GRID you were pretty much alienated from pretty much everyone and everything. I was around during the AIDS spike I remember that, get diagnosed with that say goodbye to life in a way
@Inaisola
9 ай бұрын
you mean he was protesting to much ..the way he denied so angerly and hysterical like that, answered their question
@jedimando9258
9 ай бұрын
@@Inaisola absolutely
@MinisterRoy205
9 ай бұрын
@@jedimando9258 Media definitely didn't help, people like oprah saying anuone can get it, and not speciying how along many others. People treated aids like people treat covid now.
@MySupaFli
9 ай бұрын
He was 'protesting'... if he was 'projecting', he would have been calling THEM gay.
@inkorrow9310
10 ай бұрын
I swear almost every wig sarah paulson wears looks so wig like, not blaming her but more the wigs the stylists choose
@claudeyaz
10 ай бұрын
It's because she has naturally very thin hair, and when they get for these heavy volume wigs it looks really silly on her.. She looks good with her very thin hair, and I wish they gave her wigs that match her as well
@nadiajohnson4923
9 ай бұрын
Classic Sarah
@katieedwards5926
9 ай бұрын
SERIOUSLY, as soon as she came on screen it was like, oh no that’s not great.
@sheridanvance7426
9 ай бұрын
@@pruelear7803❤
@krisgaines3661
9 ай бұрын
So glad I'm not the only one that notices terrible wigs all the time! It'll literally ruin a scene for me😂
@idfwy_ylsabiafwy182_GiGi
9 ай бұрын
My brother got AIDS from a blood transfusion back in the 80's, He had Hemophilia amd needed a transfusion but they didn't properly check the blood at that time before they gave it to someone else and he contracted AIDS and passed away from it when I was 10 years old, He passed away in the same hospital that I was born in 😢 I miss my brother so much, He was my only brother, R.I.P ARIEL
@oksanacrane8644
9 ай бұрын
💔😓🙏🙏🙏
@idfwy_ylsabiafwy182_GiGi
9 ай бұрын
@@oksanacrane8644 Thank you 😭🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@juddamelio2218
9 ай бұрын
Dr Saudi was one of those government people who hid from the public that the Aids virus was in the blood supply . Yep its true
@juddamelio2218
9 ай бұрын
Dr Fauci
@lynnbaccus2966
9 ай бұрын
@idwy_yisabiafwy Yes blood for transfusions was not tested for aids until 1985 and many were infected by aids from 75 thur 85 as I said I’m lucky I only got HepC but I still had Doctors assume I was a drug user who shot up drugs using a needle! Which made it hard to be prescribed pain meds for sciatic nerve pain!
@alltheboost5363
9 ай бұрын
People don't get angry like that unless it's true
@RoofingFacts
9 ай бұрын
Or there's a massive phobia. But yeah 99% of the time it's going to be denial
@howardchambers9679
9 ай бұрын
That boy has a lot of snow on his boots
@nicolehegarty4749
9 ай бұрын
Yes it was true I have seen this episode
@ursosexmachina
9 ай бұрын
Simply not how it works. People aren't allowed to be offended in modern logic?
@Bookhardtsbooks
9 ай бұрын
Bullshit I'd be pretty pissed if someone thought I was a big enough slut to get something like that...
@Chaclitkiss
9 ай бұрын
TV Show: Greys Anatomy Title: The Time Warp Season: 6 Episode: 15
@95swt
9 ай бұрын
this is gods work...❤
@nayd.
9 ай бұрын
Thanks 😊 🫂
@travisvance3595
9 ай бұрын
Thanks
@jsarellano2
9 ай бұрын
Wow finally someone who gives full info and not just the title thank you
@astli
8 ай бұрын
Gracias
@openyourmind3763
9 ай бұрын
As a 51 yo therapist when younger people talk about reckless sexual behavior, I want to yell, Aren't you afraid of HIV? It's not a death sentence anymore but it was scary times back then, so many people suffered and died young. As a teen the lethal risk of having unprotected sex was seared into my brain, as if the risk of pregnancy and regular STDs wasn't enough.
@rosieglows
9 ай бұрын
As a 40 yo with an MA in psychology, the mentality towards unprotected sex came with the rise of treatments for STDs, HIV, syphilis etc. I'm surprised you haven't read the studies.
@DucatiPaso750
9 ай бұрын
This is very interesting conversation from both of you. I was 16 when I moved to the U.S. and everyone was saying that Rock Hudson had AIDS. I had no idea what it truly was but that it only happened to gay people. Things were so different back then.
@ericarona8599
9 ай бұрын
Descovy and Truvada pills have been available for years now. There is now a monthly shot for prevention or treatment 🧐 The young people stay current TBH✔️
@fakeemochick
9 ай бұрын
The funny thing is even though we have medications that can make your viral load undetectable, the virus still affects parts of your body. Like people don’t realize HIV causes permanent changes to your small arteries and increases the risk of stroke significantly
@mrsg8996
9 ай бұрын
I remember when there was a stigma towards using protection. There was a religious stigma that it went against God’s will, along with only those with diseases associated with promiscuity were the only ones who needed to use it. Even speaking openly about condoms, sexual health and protection was taboo. Sad to say, things haven’t changed much with parents and lawmakers.
@jenniferharding-williams1937
9 ай бұрын
When I had my twin girls back in 85, I had to have a blood transfusion. Then a couple months later, one of the girls had to have a transfusion because she got sick. My mother in law said one time that if she had it her way all people with AIDS should be put on an island. I became very offended because you can also get it from a blood transfusion. I remember asking/ saying to her "What if I get it? You gonna put me on an island? Forget about me. What about the baby? You gonna put her on an island???" Never hears that ish from her again.
@lurah3143
8 ай бұрын
Not poking, but I'm an '85 baby. Lol what do you mean, "back in"?! Lol!! ;) ;) Sorry to read your story. Not all in-laws are human. I get that. Really. ❤ hugs to you. ❤️🫂
@ambrosiaofthegods
8 ай бұрын
Sad part is.. There's an island that exists in my where they buried the majority of aids related deaths..😢
@bird266
9 ай бұрын
Gotta say, that was a very intense way of saying he wanted a second opinion. Too bad he knows the first doctor was right.
@mro-aviation
9 ай бұрын
😂😮😱☠️
@RonJoey
9 ай бұрын
Fictional tv show or not, being defensive is usually a prrrreeeettttyyyy good sign someone is lying.
@deeceepnw
9 ай бұрын
I worked EMS back in the early 80s with GRID. We barely used gloves back then. It was like the freaking Wild West compared to today.
@victoriadiesattheend.8478
9 ай бұрын
My father passed away from complications related to AIDS. He got it after he decided to be honest with himself after 21 years of marriage to my mother and started stepping out on her with men. He had it for seven years before he told her or anyone in our family. Thankfully he had only slept with my mother or twice, always using the condoms my mother insisted on since they didnt want anymore kids, and their relationship had really started deteriorating after he started not coming home at night. She was tested immediately and thankfully did not have HIV. But my mother spent the rest of her life being tested every six months for it, because the doctors let her know that it could show up later on. She lived in terror for the next three years of her life, until she died in a household accident. My brother never forgave my father. I took care of him in the last year of his life, the same year my mother died. This was 2012. Even since then we've made incredible strides in not only treating but preventing the spread of HIV, thank God.
@daaangdasia
9 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you for sharing this. I hope you and your brother are both doing well. You two have been through a lot. ❤ Sending your angel mom some love too. I know she was so scared of it coming up later.
@notdavidbender
9 ай бұрын
What was the household accident?
@prinsreintje
9 ай бұрын
Why couldn't your brother find it in his heart to look at it from your father's perspective and find empathy and love? It must've been very difficult for your dad and to then have your son disown you while you are dying... Bless his soul.
@Maras70D
9 ай бұрын
@@prinsreintje Empathy? Wow. Your fakeass is a joke.
@bossefied
9 ай бұрын
@@prinsreintje well he did cheat on his mom exposing her to a disease that forever changed her life. probably feared transferring to someone else if she had another partner. In some way it handicapped her starting a new life. I can see how the son might be a little upset. Don’t you?
@jerzecandy
9 ай бұрын
Graduated college in ‘81. Partied in NYC every weekend few of my bffs were models. It was an unrestricted uninhibited time. Sex drugs and nightclubs. Then our gay friends were getting sicker and sicker. We didn’t pay attention until a guy we all had been with threw a party and told everyone he had AIDS the significance of how deadly the virus was and we were at risk. Our friend was dead within the year. One by one our gay friends died some moved away ashamed dying alone. The stigma surrounding the disease, we didn’t think we were at risk it was something only gay men and IV drug users could get. It was early stages, Drs frantically searched for solutions. It wasn’t until one of models we partied with jumped from her 18th floor apartment after testing positive. We were scared the party was over most of us left NYC went home. Looking back we were so freaked out we had a phone call chain every six months to get tested. By 1994 i was working at a hospital as AIDS/HIV Social Services Coordinator Not one of our gay male friends survived. I am grateful
@annem7806
9 ай бұрын
My college housemate contracted it while he served in the Israeli military. It didn't show up until his 2nd year in law school. He did great until we lost him in '07. 😢 We all thought he'd be ok.
@jerzecandy
9 ай бұрын
@@annem7806 at 9 months pregnant I took care of my friend JG he kept saying he had nicotine poisoning. Me and the Drs knew better. The saddest thing was his family refused to come see him when they could say goodbye and show him love and support. But noooo. He had a substantial amount of money saved and a houseful of beautiful artwork furniture, his family rolled up day after he died with a UHaul truck and took everything. Didn’t handle his memorial ceremony, I arranged it paid for it. We sent him off with love from people who loved him. Never heard from his family at all
@autsept7116
9 ай бұрын
This subject and the lives that were touched by it affects me alot. You don't often have people talking candidly about AIDS. HIV came later. The possible death sentence we all lived with. We were scared to have sex because it could kill you. Imagine that! Now everyone acts like HIV is ok because it can be treated. It is the same behavior of men that causes that too. Why does no one want to admit it? I mean women are not getting HIV from each other, are they?
@jerzecandy
9 ай бұрын
@@autsept7116 anyone can contract AIDS/HIV it isn’t only transmitted by men. IV drug users are at risk, by sharing needles, which puts their partners at risk. Scientists/Virologists have and are working tirelessly to improve life expectancy.
@autsept7116
9 ай бұрын
@@jerzecandy You are correct
@ShawnElliot-p3v
8 ай бұрын
I was so thankful for this episode. In the early 90’s we called it the plague, or gay cancer. Diagnosed 24 years ago and am undectable now
@TerreiaHamer-mp5ws
7 ай бұрын
Do you still take meds and use the same precautions? 🎉 to you.
@nichochan8681
9 ай бұрын
I remember hearing about a local firefighter from one of the cities i lived in contracting aids from his job. He had an open wound on his arm and the woman he saved was positive and bleeding into his cut. It was the 90's so some of the stigma from the uneducated still hung around, but i heard his firehouse was super supportive until he passed.
@tcook7147
9 ай бұрын
I love how this show had so many learning experiences
@OkayMaybeImDoneNow...
8 ай бұрын
"What kind of doctors are you?" The kind that know you have GRID.
@paulvicentevcurimao5596
9 ай бұрын
The bottom line is do not endanger other people because of your fear of prejudice because this aspect is controllable in that, you don't have to be intimate with women.
@HitPeace
9 ай бұрын
Man's clearly got it.. nobody acts like that if they don't.
@husaynbeketaut1312
10 ай бұрын
A thorough history will greatly aid doctors in diagnosis and treatment, give them lies and crap you get a crappy diagnosis and unnecessary treatment plus expenses. But it is understandable back then it was and even today still very much stigmatized.
@trinity72gp
9 ай бұрын
So removing the iv, talking to the superiors and going for treatment elsewhere will change what exactly? 🤔
@sarahmcdonald4787
9 ай бұрын
Fr, you still have the same issues and are gonna get the same questions and treatment elsewhere😂
@yucol5661
9 ай бұрын
Since when do scared people act rationally?
@karenpetrus3488
9 ай бұрын
Prolong denial and it might all go away?
@jessicamichelle1025
9 ай бұрын
lol exactly!
@ziolan8970
9 ай бұрын
It means he'll die faster
@annabelladebonnay8320
7 ай бұрын
Doctors. Frequently ask Obscene questions with an arrogant smirk,cause they have impugnity and immunity from repercussions as Doctors protect their own!!!
@AshleyFromTX
10 ай бұрын
Nah he 100% was sleeping with dudes
@kaleahcollins4567
10 ай бұрын
Sara paulson played Meredith's mom nice
@rachaeldee85
9 ай бұрын
J. August Richards plays Richard.
@gilliankingston8259
9 ай бұрын
Paul Michael Glasers (Starsky of Starsky and Hutch) Wife passed away the same way and latterly his daughter, his Wife needed a transfusion after having given birth - very sad, I'm not sure about his son; that was before they tested donated blood and when people are paid to donate it's less about helping/doing the right thing and more about money!!!
@charleehenderson5880
9 ай бұрын
Their son did not acquire hiv/aids, unless he has passed from another cause he should still be living
@KeloGIO
9 ай бұрын
Duh on the last part. Do u think doctors become doctors so they could HELP people? How sweet
@sandraturner3086
9 ай бұрын
@@charleehenderson5880Her son did have aids also, same reason, last I heard he was living with treatment. His wife wrote a book "In the absence of Angels" . Heartbreaking Novel
@DejaVuSept11
9 ай бұрын
I don’t judge those who sell their blood, but the system that creates people dependent on that kind of income to survive.
@chriscynthiaphillips699
9 ай бұрын
@@charleehenderson5880he does have AIDS. Yes, he's still alive.
@thelmadickinson6811
10 ай бұрын
A childhood friend’s brother died of aids from a blood transfusion.
@teresah.6696
9 ай бұрын
That's why now before EVERY surgery and transfusions, they do an AIDS blood test...back in the early to mid eighties alot of hospitals did not.
@markjones1184
9 ай бұрын
Yes this was common. Also improper procedures in blood donations not screening blood supply in some places. With time, sadly facts get lost. Blood transfusions bad blood was real
@danaelizabethlewis4014
9 ай бұрын
It still is but thankfully much less common now due to intensive screening.
@shawnycoffman
10 ай бұрын
Good god that was a horrible time. 😢
@rainbowstones5431
9 ай бұрын
Yes! Today's corona weaklings have no idea what real terror is!!! I decided to marry the guy I was with rather than risk anyone new!😮
@sherethadaniels473
9 ай бұрын
You people are not out of the woods. HIV is still out there.
@sherethadaniels473
9 ай бұрын
@rainbowstones5431 As for people, being corona weaklings I buried my mother two weeks ago because of the corona virus so watch what comes out of your mouth. People are still dying. And your not with your partner twenty four seven.
@jaggg.3821
9 ай бұрын
This was the best Grey's Anatomy Episode about GRID and Richard was right I was born in 1981 so 82 I was a year old.
@jhhone
9 ай бұрын
Was Sarah Paulson Meredith's mother?
@robincasey1700
9 ай бұрын
Don't worry, he comes back to the same hospital basically on his deathbed and they treat palitive care
@ashleymassey7866
9 ай бұрын
And he eventually admits what they already knew.
@DeborahWalkerXOXO
9 ай бұрын
@ashleymassey7866 did the girl contract it too?
@robincasey1700
9 ай бұрын
@@DeborahWalkerXOXO no but he is alone, no one will go near him except the only female doctor and only black Dr in the hospital.
@DeborahWalkerXOXO
9 ай бұрын
@@robincasey1700 that's what it was ike back then. It was a big deal that people like Princess Diana and Elizabeth Taylor stood by and touched infected people. Thank you for letting me know what happened.
@robincasey1700
9 ай бұрын
@@DeborahWalkerXOXO I mean I'm a millennial I think but I'm not old enough to have experienced the fear of stuff I was growing up during the acceptance stage really. I couldnt really fathom a world like the one I was watching in the TV show but it's what happened like ya said.
@jamiebrandenburg6874
9 ай бұрын
I can't believe I forgot Sarah Paulson was on Grey's!!
@TheKKreamking
9 ай бұрын
Nah he’s got the griddy
@jas2246
9 ай бұрын
Thanks to this channel I restarted greys anatomy ….. I’ll be back in 19 seasons
@kennethmarrow3131
10 ай бұрын
That sounds like a guilty man?!
@teresawood6830
9 ай бұрын
No, other comments say it was a transfusion. They watched the episode.
@Storm_Bird456
9 ай бұрын
@@teresawood6830it wasn’t actually, he was sleeping with other men.
@teresawood6830
9 ай бұрын
@@Storm_Bird456 okay, I haven’t seen it.
@SuperTabbat
9 ай бұрын
@@Storm_Bird456That’s just fucked up to do to his wife….
@mistydragonfan1008
9 ай бұрын
@@SuperTabbatYea but he was probably forced to marry her. I'm not justifing him but I'm just saying the reasons
@scrilluchiano4789
8 ай бұрын
That fro wig is wild 😂🤣😂🤣
@killerking9937
10 ай бұрын
Bro really doesn't wanna be gay
@xavierbryceborja8412
9 ай бұрын
The 80’ was one of the toughest times to be gay. HIV/AIDS epidemic was on the rise. Without knowledge on the disease, it was quickly stigmatized and dubbed the “Gay Cancer”. On top of which “Don’t ask Don’t Tell” a gay military policy was in effect as well offer some form of protection from being dishonorably discharged, which at the time was all we had. There were a great deal of things that were out to vilify the community more ways than one. So it led to a lot of internalizing homophobia, which led a number of gay folks to force themselves to conform to society in fear of being shunned. Or in a number of cases lead to seriously reckless behavior with consequences. Correcting my understanding of Don’t Ask Don’t Tell 😅
@Sulueti
9 ай бұрын
The way he switched from 0-100 … man was guilty and tried to deflect
@valiantsfelinesmccarty6678
9 ай бұрын
It was an awful time. Sister got it from her boyfriend who got it from a transfusion after a car accident. Years later they came knocking. She's married 2kids her world implodes.Best friends family distroyed by it as brothers were gay & injection drug users. Just devistation. My first AIDs pt. Was 18 tied to his bed. Us nurses were only private paid for by family to provide 24hrcompanionship. It took 4 burly ordelys to care for the por young man. First time I ever broke down cred for hours & husband callef work saying I wouldn't be in for a few days.
@queenboudicca31
9 ай бұрын
Back in the day, "GRID" was a dearh sentence.
@KittynFranky7643
9 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the fear people felt back then when stories started about a terrible disease that was killing people and nobody knew where it came from.
@sheilagravely5621
9 ай бұрын
Didn't it originally come from Africa?? If I remember correctly.
@maryholden3136
8 ай бұрын
I'd forgotten that it was called that back then and all the stigma that came with it.
@susanveenendaal6333
9 ай бұрын
That kind of reaction is either guilt related or severe shock
@JDs.Journey
9 ай бұрын
Or pure terror.
@theprodigaltrue
9 ай бұрын
Superiors:" a patient said you asked them health related questions how dare you!!! Youre both fired!!!!"
@OutdoorGril31
10 ай бұрын
Blood transfusion
@gigiw.7650
10 ай бұрын
@OutdoorGril31 My first thought!.😢
@BohemothWatts-vz1lc
10 ай бұрын
@@gigiw.7650 Just like Bryan White. He got AIDS from a BLOOD TRANSFUSION.
@JohnMiller-zn9pf
9 ай бұрын
😢Nope, he was bi-sexual and having unprotected sex with a BF.
@beneditamclorn2843
9 ай бұрын
because he was so ungry, you tink is he inocent? 😂😂😂😂 you really cant understand human mind.
@JB-bm1to
9 ай бұрын
Nope, unprotected sex, cheating on a partner, and lying.
@elizabethsanawa2875
8 ай бұрын
The fact that he was angry ....said everything there is
@jessemcdonald5124
9 ай бұрын
There was a boy in the early 80s who got it from a blood transfusion and the way he was treated at school and by the parends of other kids in town was just horrendous. I mean if they could treat an innocent child like that imagine a grown gay men. Evil.
@sitdowndogbreath
9 ай бұрын
Ryan White from Indianapolis Indiana Yeah I remember that case
@JohnMiller-zn9pf
9 ай бұрын
I grew up in the 80s, There was so much that was unknown about transmission. It was thought ANY contact with bodily fluid with an infected person may result in being infected. People were wrong in how they acted, it came from a place of fear
@sportytaco2153
9 ай бұрын
It wasn’t evil. There were too many unknowns and people were protecting themselves. Kind of like how vaxed were treating unvaxed during COVID.
@nancymaucher7191
9 ай бұрын
I read a book about a similar story written by the mother of a child that got the diagnosis after an blood transfusion which he had to have regularly because he had a bleeding condition.
@Carol-q1i
9 ай бұрын
There were still so many unknowns about how it was spread and people were terrified. AIDS was a gauranteed death sentence back then.
@nono-ch8oy
9 ай бұрын
I love all the people saying. "Family friend got it from a blood transfusion." Sure they did... not cause they were secretly gay lmao
@Alterdeitsch
9 ай бұрын
Only the truth gets that kinda reaction
@so-bs1xs
8 ай бұрын
Or them being homophobic
@yasminlaveuve5522
9 ай бұрын
Plot Twist: he Was gay 😂😂 And He had grid 😂😂 And He died... good Episode
@VeryWeirdHumanVWH
9 ай бұрын
OMG, THE DOCTORS ASKED HEALTH RELATED QUESTIONS. DEFINITELY NOT PART OF THEIR JOBS.😂
@evahinterlach6485
8 ай бұрын
Um I work for Infectious Disease and the doctors do ask these questions, we ask about their sexual history because it’s important. The health department also steps in and gets your partner history to inform them of possible exposure. I remember one man who wouldn’t tell his wife because he didn’t want her to know he had sex with men, the health department gave him a certain amount of time to tell her or they were going to tell her
@olensmith3739
9 ай бұрын
My lady you protest too much😂😂😂
@EdugeBDroN
10 ай бұрын
To be that mad......he was deep in closet
@teresawood6830
9 ай бұрын
No, there was huge stigma and isolation for people even suspected of having GRID or AIDS. And there was no treatment/cure. Everyone was terrified.
@kp2223
9 ай бұрын
@@teresawood6830He didn't jump being mad about the illness. He jumped to being mad when they assumed He might have had sex with another man.
@teresawood6830
9 ай бұрын
@@kp2223 We’re saying the same thing. There was huge stigma for having a disease because it implied you were a man having sex with men. There was already stigma around that. Some doctors and hospitals wouldn’t even treat people with GRID/AIDS symptoms, even when they figured out how it was spread. They were disgusted, fearful and judgmental.
@JB-bm1to
9 ай бұрын
@@teresawood6830he was in the closet though.
@b.k.3280
9 ай бұрын
Argentine must be like "WHY US???"
@Apryll.
9 ай бұрын
imagine what the pigeons must be thinking
@sandralouth3103
9 ай бұрын
You might only have sex with the opposite sex, but you really don't know about your partners history. Maybe they only slept with 1 other, but how many did that person have sex with.. it's exponential.
@laurencameron3150
9 ай бұрын
It’s not about the amount of people you sleep with. It’s about whether or not you’re sexually safe when doing it.
@markjones1184
9 ай бұрын
Remember them telling us this in highschool sex ed. One person you're with might be like being with dozens of people
@angiemichele313
9 ай бұрын
bro doesn’t realize he’s gonna get asked those questions everywhere lmaoo
@annedavis6090
10 ай бұрын
I remember this term in 1980...gay related immune disorder...the media was rabid..
@lisagow1482
10 ай бұрын
They still are
@somomm733
9 ай бұрын
Just think; had prejudice like that not been so prevalent how many more people could have been spared the disease smh. Had they not had such a preconceived notion (which for scientists is just crazy) they could have detected it in the blood after the first contaminated transfusion.
@jaggg.3821
9 ай бұрын
The Media could of informed the public better however they were the only one's talking about because the Great and awesome President Reagan everybody falls all over Said Nothing. No Speeches on the subject no addressing a frightened Nation to calm the Public Fear's the guy was so ineffective at this Time that he just stood back and watch mass people die from AIDS. I have since learned that AIDS has A Evil Twin Brother Worst than AIDS itself and no surprise was found in Africa.
@islandsicedtea
8 ай бұрын
“What kind of doctors are you? YOURE SICK!” Bro if they NEVER asked anyone std related questions not to “offend” anyone like this guy, they’d miss so many cases and people would die.
@tierajones8241
9 ай бұрын
It’s truly scary to date now a days…men sleeping with men on the low but portraying a “HETEROSEXUAL “ lifestyle. Disgusting. Be who you are ..it’s your life. Don’t rob another person of theirs because of your shame
@lizzybeary
9 ай бұрын
It's one way but definitely not the only way to contract HIV
@Dhruv_Dogra
9 ай бұрын
Christianity and Islam have scriptural hatred for Gays. No wonder so many people dare not face the truth.
@skylarmercykilled1986
9 ай бұрын
Not every man that sleeps with another man gets aids ya know. You (and the other person) should ALWAYS get tested before having sex with a person, regardless of gender. Especially for aids, considering sex is not even the only way to contract it.
@nataliefromnormandya1135
8 ай бұрын
Someone I live very much is a gay man. He regularly tells me about men on hook up and dating apps who are married to women and living a lie. Regardless of HIV and other STDs, it’s ac terrible way to live.
@LarryDWilmore79
8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂he called them sick🤣🤣🤣
@jimm2434
9 ай бұрын
I never heard of Aids referred to as Grid nor did I understand the question about pigeon’s. I was terrified trying to figure out how to make sense of what to do. I had no one to talk to. I lived in a small country town & had no clue how to stay safe & alive without my parents finding out let alone having some disease no one knew nothing about at the time. These programs didn’t exist then. I didn’t start going out until 84 or 85. I had to leave town so as to not get caught at the 3 bars in the area.
@annem7806
9 ай бұрын
Bird poo, like bat poo (China), is very dangerous
@michelemiktus2312
9 ай бұрын
It wasn’t referred to as GRID, it was AIDS and eventually became HIV. Never GRID, in the early years for those who were not honest and we would have the infectious disease docs coming in asking about pigeons, bird exposure was a very common question. In my area, the very first AIDS patient was in my hospital and he apparently had a hobby of working w/carrier pigeons. It was quite obvious from his hospital surroundings, cleanliness was not his top priority, so yes, he was tested for avian flu. There are many similar symptoms. Once the doc was finally able to get him away from his wife he was able to whittle down the questions allowing the correct tests to be done and w/in 24 hrs there was the proper diagnosis after 2 weeks🤷🏻♀️
@Maras70D
9 ай бұрын
Crazy, much? 😂
@lubabe9969
8 ай бұрын
I'm sorry you couldn't be yourself back then, you deserved better than some ignorant small town minds. Peace.
@helena3631
8 ай бұрын
That’s what it was called I had to do a research CB project in aids when I was young
@macypalps7717
8 ай бұрын
Aside from having HIV/AIDS patients, the closest i have encountered was my gay friend in high school who was an adopted son of a prominent fashion designer in the Philippines back in the 60s-70s. During high school he had a GF as his beard but after high school he went all out. Idk about his sexual history but he eventually died of AIDS. Word was he was in denial and kept his diagnosis a secret from his family. Because of that he didn’t get any treatment and died at a time where HIV meds that prolong lives of patients were given for free by the government. He could’ve survived had he gotten treatment in time.
@glennjohnson8810
9 ай бұрын
Watch the documentary "And the Band Played On" It talks about AIDS/HIV and how it started and progressed.
@bw2285
9 ай бұрын
I read the book, I didn't know they made a documentary. Finding patient Zero, the Virus Isolation Drama between US & France and how Fauci handeled it so very wretched & evil made the book heartwrenching. Never understood how Fauci got away with it, after so many advocates named him. Sad forgotten history noted in this extremely well researched & sited book. Author Randy Shilts was diagnosed with HIV in 1985 & died of an AIDS-related illness in 1994 at the age of 42. RIP
@yvie914
9 ай бұрын
Oh yes!, that was a powerful one. Initially I was ignorant about it all. Being in Jr. High, I thought "that's what they get!" but wow, when cases were coming in about women and children etc, I remember everyone minds changed- some for the better and others became more hateful of the gay community. This film showed that it wasn't a "bunch of devious bed hopping perverts" getting infected, these were real people, good people, and not being singled out by God for who they were.
@nattpearl
9 ай бұрын
his reaction says it all 😭
@stevenhorsch6504
9 ай бұрын
Homophobia was so prevalent and shamefully ruthless at that time. Being gay might have been the worst insult society had for a man.
@sherethadaniels473
9 ай бұрын
That's not true, only the ones who were sleeping with men and women. My brother was an open gay man he also died of HIV.
@andrewjones9991
9 ай бұрын
I am gay and 100% it was the absolute worst thing you could be called then. The closest thing I can think of in today's world would be to be called a pedo. Church's would put on their message boards that AIDS was God's retribution for homosexuality. The f slur was casually thrown around in TV and movies and music. You'd hear the older generation say they'd rather have a murderer than a f@***t for a son. I had a church counselor tell our youth group that we could come and tell her about anything confidentially. If we had tried alcohol or drugs, had sex, didn't get along with family, etc. Then she said "well almost anything. One time someone tried to tell me they were gay. (and then she scrunched up her face) I don't want to hear about that!" and everyone cracked up laughing. You could be fired, denied services, kicked out of housing, and even arrested just for being in a gay bar.
@seanhazelwood3311
8 ай бұрын
It may have been homophobic to us now, but the first and vast majority of early aids patients were gay men. It was data, not prejudice.
@andrewjones9991
8 ай бұрын
@@seanhazelwood3311 so it's not homophobic to laugh when someone says gay people love each other too it's not just sexual realtionships? Ok.....
@seanhazelwood3311
8 ай бұрын
@@andrewjones9991 No, it isn't. I laugh ant Anyone who does things that don't make sense. No "unreasonable fear or aversion" involved.
@linkoner456
7 ай бұрын
Inside he's like how did they know 😂
@tiffles699
10 ай бұрын
Just so you know... Pigeons are nicknamed "flying AIDS rats"... So "birds?" Is now answered
@joeyjones1271
9 ай бұрын
Hey it used to be banging monkeys back in the 90s. 😂😂😂
@katmiow
9 ай бұрын
The patient also may have had a type of pneumonia common in patients with immune deficiency that typically is passed by birds (psittacosis)
@katmiow
9 ай бұрын
You can’t get AIDS from birds they just may have noted co morbid infections likely caused by the AIDS the patient had that they were trying to explain by other methods
@rossbuie5977
7 ай бұрын
Oml “gay-related” has me dead💀💀💀💀
@synovelle
9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately this is very real. Many men died in the 80s from AIDS, either due to their own shame because the public acted like being gay was such a bad thing, or they died because they didn't have doctors who cared or wanted to treat gay men. There were also many straight men who never been with men that also got AIDS (from sharing needles, having contact with infected blood, being with a partner who could be a carrier) and those men also feared getting treatment because they might be deemed gay and then be mistreated (or because they were homophobic themselves and didn't want to be seen as gay because of that). My mom lost a lot of friends as a teen because they were scared to get treatment or were refused treatment. We STILL deal with discrimination in medicine to this day, thankfully many laws are passed to make that illegal but it still happens. AIDS/HIV actually originated in chimpanzees in the 1800s, and when we would hunt them back then, we likely caught it then, and then passed it across other humans. Men were the main gender among hunters, and because HIV can only be passed through blood or seminal fluids, it usually started with a man having the virus. But, it can be a man, a woman, or even a baby that has it (HIV can be passed through breastmilk as well).
@ameliarose47
9 ай бұрын
Can't people also get aids through being born from someone who has active aids?
@chandraholloman7120
9 ай бұрын
HIV was a man made weapon tested on Africans because it was a third world country. The spread of HIV could've been stopped via transfusions if the Red Cross had been willing to spend the money to test the blood supply. The reason American didn't care about homosexual/gay men contracting Hiv is because the conservative Bible thumping group felt it was a punishment from God. I'll never forget the ignorance of yhese people thinking thoses evil thoughts or the fact that testing people in 3rd world countries was okay after the outcome of testing people was outlawed because of the Tuskegee Experiment that happened here in the US. HIV should have never been so detrimental to the lives of so many people because of a lack of love and selfish greed. Those who caused the spead should be held accountable for the suffering and pain cause in this world.
@yoshigeiger262
9 ай бұрын
His reaction proved it
@sully47
10 ай бұрын
Bro chose death instead of the truth
@samanthagillette1483
10 ай бұрын
In the 80s AIDS was a death sentence whether you acknowledged it or not.
@teresawood6830
10 ай бұрын
Back in the 80’s when they called it GRID, it was a death sentence either way. 😢😢😢
@sitdowndogbreath
9 ай бұрын
There wasn't treatment until 1985 And I don't think there was a blood test until 1984 damn feels like a lifetime.
@tracybenson6364
8 ай бұрын
It was so heart breaking, and those who had it were often abandoned by their families and died in isolation.
When the public fear level went through the roof ,the CDC changed the name to AIDS ,but that gave people a false cover of the disease origin. Remember the movie Boy In The Bubble(John Travolta) He had 'Acquired Immune Deficiency'. A child born with a threatened immune system. That caused much confusion also.
@Kaharris.96
9 ай бұрын
He stepped out on his gf and got caught.
@BEARDY65
8 ай бұрын
Oh hes into that weird shit with a reaction like that😂😂😂😂
@frankrodriguez5202
9 ай бұрын
He acted soooo guilty for over reacting.
@madgemackles4337
9 ай бұрын
He played a younger Richard! That’s funny
@queenxgemini
9 ай бұрын
I hate when men do that your putting the woman your with at risk because you don't want accept your problem being selfish smh
@OnizukaAllMighty
7 ай бұрын
He reacted really interesting for someone who has nothing to hide 😅
@lovablelycan
9 ай бұрын
Bro definitely out there bottoming judging from that reaction
@helena3631
8 ай бұрын
This those the worst ones and they get everything from bottoming std wise why they do bareback is beyond me
@adamm.6595
9 ай бұрын
Okay, go, leave, but before you do, please sign Here Here And here This absolves this hospital of any wrongdoing when you die.
@daleplucknett278
9 ай бұрын
His mouth said no but his reaction said yes.
@dusk_ene
10 ай бұрын
Love Sara Paulson
@pbcman1
9 ай бұрын
He sure clutched them pearls and called for the manager like he did, tho😅
@yodaami
9 ай бұрын
Okey-dokey 4 questions. Why Taiwan? why Argentina? Why stop at those countries? and why pigeons?
@danielclaeys7598
9 ай бұрын
Pigeon crap carries a bacteria that can cause a particular type of pneumonia, similar to the type caused by AIDS. They were trying to rule out this type. These countries were of the first to start reporting the epidemic.
@meshab6049
8 ай бұрын
Ole boy is still wearing that temptations movie wig.😅😅
@Jennifer-zj9ol
10 ай бұрын
What season and episode please
@hadleymarie2452
10 ай бұрын
Based off Lexi’s blonde hair I’m gonna say some time in season 6
@fiuymi2020
9 ай бұрын
6-15
@annalisamandell3581
9 ай бұрын
Oooh…that explosive behavior….tell tale sign…
@morallyflexiblesapphic7287
10 ай бұрын
Why were they asking about birds tho?
@kevillew
10 ай бұрын
Mycobacteria avium complex or MAC is one of the many AIDS defining illnesses. It can be spread through contaminated bird poop/maybe inhaled as dust.
@tiffles699
10 ай бұрын
"flying AIDS rats" are a nickname of pigeons. Birds carry diseases and excrete them everywhere through poo. HIV and AIDS/GRID are not synonymous, like people think. About 75% of people in the US with AIDS have HIV, others have NON-HIV AIDS ... Don't know if pigeons actually carry HIV...
@jaggg.3821
9 ай бұрын
The way AIDS worked or in this episode GRID the human body contracted the smallest illnesses that would mean the death of them because the immunity the White Blood Cells were Dead. Not even child hood Vaccination's could stop The AIDS Virus so Bird Flu in the body isn't crazy it's all with how the Virus kills the human body.
@barbarabuford5795
8 ай бұрын
Did this man give GRID to his fiancee? That's 'All' I want to know!
@blueromeo1974
10 ай бұрын
Actually in the old day's.... gay was a happy man 🤷🏾
@HappyLife693
10 ай бұрын
Not in 1982. It meant homosexual, but usually people shouted a profanity that is rarely used anymore.
@joeyjones1271
9 ай бұрын
@@HappyLife693no it's still two different definitions one is just means happy. I don't know why the original commenter said happy man it it doesn't mean happy man it just means happy. Then you have the word gay as in homosexual
@mistydragonfan1008
9 ай бұрын
No?
@Tshego_tnt
9 ай бұрын
This was such a powerful episode 👏
@dianagonsalves
10 ай бұрын
Did he really have grid?
@YouTubePzm
10 ай бұрын
Yes!!
@Gowidafloman
10 ай бұрын
No he's a fictional character. He doesn't actually exist!
@dianagonsalves
10 ай бұрын
@@Gowidafloman of course i know....I.was asking as part of the storyline
@nopjack7278
10 ай бұрын
@dianagonsalves Hey bud, save yourself a bit of time and do NOT respond to sarcastic jackazz commenters. Many are lonely and miserable, not to mention, and immature. Good day.
@JcBravo8
10 ай бұрын
@@GowidaflomanWe found the dumbass
@tawanacalamari5712
9 ай бұрын
The way he's reacting, its true. Anyone else would have not been that pissed.
@curtisthomas3598
10 ай бұрын
Better call your boyfriend.
@georgialenny6265
9 ай бұрын
Oh my God😂😂😂i would let him go to another hospital. Doctors are in school for YEARS! They usually know what they are talking about. 😂😂😂
@overlordp.3758
9 ай бұрын
Back then in real life they'll be glad to let him go. Talk to the older Doctors and nurses. They said it was scary times.
@UnopinionatedBystander2393
9 ай бұрын
The drama he showed...Projection and guilt, wrapped in denial.
@heavencanwaite
9 ай бұрын
He's blocking HARD from a simple question. Me thinks he be lying😅
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