Mr Fantastic is so underrated. He's pretty much invulnerable. Ever since the first issues he was tapping the Thing out. He can bulk himself up to give himself super strength. He can create weapons like hammers, spiked maces and even blades out of his limbs. And of course create massive fists like Luffy does. A lot of people sleep on him because he prefers to use his brain to solve problems.
@victortaylor7737
3 жыл бұрын
Reed is first& foremost a scientist he doesn't put himself in a category like his wife& teammates.but yes,he is underated& maybe he will be amped up in a MCU film,though for some reason I feel Marvel should give them a tv series,like they're planning to do with Hawkeye( Kate Bishop).
@ricniks4619
2 жыл бұрын
Well, it makes sense since reed is a scientist and isn't really a brawler type character tasks like that are for the thing to do since he has super strength and high durability, and considering he is the leader and the only one on the team that knows about stuff when it comes to science it would make sense to have his team do the fighting while he just plans or assists them during fights.
@riverling202
2 жыл бұрын
not to mention he really is a handsome man
@michaeljosephjackson2364
2 жыл бұрын
He is first creation of stan Lee He leads most of the scientific research in marvel Universe
@kvngkee5699
2 жыл бұрын
Dude is the smartest man on earth in the marvel universe aside from his daughter
@EliasWolf77
2 жыл бұрын
This will always be the best most accurate adaptation of Mr. Fantastic
@litcigarettes
2 жыл бұрын
not really, when the f4 comes out in 2024 i beg to differ.
@gregory7320
Жыл бұрын
@@litcigarettes we'll see about that
@abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502
7 ай бұрын
@@litcigarettessadly Pedro Pascal is the next Reed Richards as John Krasinski or Penn Badgley should've been. 🫠
@Gamerz_Riot
Ай бұрын
@@abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502 Pedro Pascal is a Boog actor
@khylechristianderosales1894
Ай бұрын
finally a better actor@@abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502
@stepanserdyuk4589
4 жыл бұрын
I think Gruffud nailed that look on Reed's face - "So, it appears that my arm can squeeze under the door. Fascinating..." Pure scientific approach.
@rebekahsegun8319
3 жыл бұрын
...That's gross
@Fummy007
4 жыл бұрын
3:10 All the girls are thinking "I wonder where else he cant reach with those fingers?"
@holdenm.c5495
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@jakeman025
3 жыл бұрын
Especially that one on the right lol she wondering what else he can expand.
@Hummingbirdzah
3 жыл бұрын
@@jakeman025 🤣🤣🤣
@youtubeistryingtocensorme
8 ай бұрын
So when he “expands” it to do it, is it still hard or is it still soft and rubbery?
@hausofheroes8575
3 ай бұрын
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme still hard
@AwesomeTheAsim
4 жыл бұрын
This is how Luffy's gonna look in the live action.
@stevenyang8312
4 жыл бұрын
Dude I literally came here just to see how Luffy would look in live action
@seb1524
4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenyang8312 Lmao same
@AbrahamPerez609
4 жыл бұрын
Cgi is better nowadays tho
@scionsilverbeat8149
3 жыл бұрын
LOLLL Thats the reason im here XD
@law6115
3 жыл бұрын
Ikr😂😂
@SwrveYT
2 жыл бұрын
1:28 how did this not become the "chad" meme of 2005...this is the origin :0
@cr7sus
2 жыл бұрын
yea xd
@Jj_2723
2 жыл бұрын
I literally searched up fantastic four chad to find that clip
@alxndr.theblack
18 күн бұрын
I distinctly remember hit turn to Hugh Jackman
@Dino_Boy.01
17 күн бұрын
Swrve!?
@IronHawk96
2 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about the Fantastic Four movies. But you gotta admit that Gruffudd nailed the role of Reed Richards. He fits the role just as well as Robert plays Tony. It’s gonna be hard for John Krasinski to top this! But I have high hopes for him!
@afarrel3195
2 жыл бұрын
how do you know krasinski gonna play reed from 3 months ago
@unknownvariable9239
2 жыл бұрын
@@afarrel3195 it’s been a fan casting for a long time
@IronHawk96
2 жыл бұрын
@@afarrel3195 It was revealed months before Multiverse of Madness that Marvel hired and casted John Krasinski as Reed Richards
@JacobBen94
2 жыл бұрын
Nah awful
@projectx7453
2 жыл бұрын
He really did
@diegodiaz6876
5 жыл бұрын
Ioan Gruffudd did a great job playing Mr Fantastic
@I-speak-U-shut-it
4 жыл бұрын
Ioan Gruffudd and Chris Evans are the only and best things about the Fantastic Four movies
@nilehoruseus
4 жыл бұрын
No also Michael Chiklis and Jessica Alba
@nilehoruseus
4 жыл бұрын
He did better than Miles Teller
@aaronmehaffey6251
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the movies had a lot of flaws, but the cast was excellent!
@MrMouseYT
4 жыл бұрын
Ioan was perfect
@spongeboymebob771
2 жыл бұрын
I used to dislike Mr. Fantastic and think his powers were lame but after actually seeing him in action in the movies and comics, and actually reading about them he's quickly becoming one of my favorite heroes along with the rest of the F4.
@victortaylor7737
2 жыл бұрын
Reed is a scientist to the world at large& that's his main title,his actual powers are just a big bonus in a sense.he doesn't have Tony's savor fare,or Peters wit,but I like him just like he is,evetentilly lots of other people do too.
@spongeboymebob771
2 жыл бұрын
@@victortaylor7737 Yeah true. Even now learning more about his powers they're becoming cool to me as well. He's more than just "stretchy boi", he's the guy that can literally make himself as big and strong as the Hulk (albeit briefly) just by stretching his muscles enough.
@victortaylor7737
2 жыл бұрын
@@spongeboymebob771 Reed is to Marvel what Aquaman used to be to D.C.,a laughing stock.i feel if they put the right actor in the part& use his actual powers,blend his genius with his stretching powers,he'd really be an A- list character,right up there with his wife& two partners.
@Awakenbeing
3 жыл бұрын
Mr Fantastic would be the coolest superhero if a person could have this kinda power to use in real life.
@aidanbarnes4290
5 жыл бұрын
what I like most about the fantastic 4 is that they have the most iconic superpowers such as super strength, flight, invisibility, and elastic stretch
@ytanonymity3585
3 жыл бұрын
Almost like Avenger lol
@FC_mania
Жыл бұрын
2:27 probably the best live action showcase of Mr Fantastic’s powers
@sophoniempela1224
3 жыл бұрын
Mr Fantastic has 12 powers like genius level intellect, extreme super elasticity, malleability, durability, resistance to most physical assaults, electricity immunity & limited shape-shifting
@tylerbass2024
3 жыл бұрын
He is kinda op
@Just_KILL3R
2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerbass2024 Except there are some weaknesses. 😏
@michaeljosephjackson2364
2 жыл бұрын
@@Just_KILL3R if u cool him enough which iceman can do then sure
@protus3882
2 жыл бұрын
still gets turned into string cheese
@kingki1953
3 ай бұрын
@@protus3882Wanda power literally destruction. She could destroy Reed Richard in molecular level.
@Rxul17
Ай бұрын
Loan Gruffudd will always be my favorite Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic, growing up I loved the 2005 and 2007 Fantastic Four Movies, I still wish the original cast had made a 3rd movie in 2009 since each movie took 2 years to make.
@I-speak-U-shut-it
2 жыл бұрын
Now this is THE SMARTEST MAN ALIVE READ RICHARDS FROM FANTASTIC 4
@RevengerPhoenix
2 жыл бұрын
Sad that Feige decided to cast Krasinsky because 100 people on twitter went crazy over an edited picture of him as Mr Fantastic, instead of bringing back Ioan, who’s a much better actor and more recognizable to casual audiences because of the two movies (regardless of how good or bad they were). Ioan with better material to work, would’ve killed it as Reed.
@kuhanblock9380
2 жыл бұрын
Well considering Reed was just a sacrificial lamb in Multiverse of Madness I'd say he dodged a bullet
@evelynhernandez8969
2 жыл бұрын
krasinsky has the looks of mr fantastic and really looks like he has the brains and I say he would also killed it as mr fantastic although my guess is that from what you said thats how mr fantastic act and I guess the current ones act a little different? but still has that mr fantastic charm in it
@pats3212
2 жыл бұрын
@@evelynhernandez8969 Ioan looks 1000x more like Reed than Krasinsky
@evelynhernandez8969
2 жыл бұрын
@@pats3212 well yeah I see that I am starting chaning my mind of it but krasinsky does look like mr fantastic in the modern comics
@Jj_2723
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest I barely even remember krasinskis performance. MoM was trash
@FC_mania
2 жыл бұрын
Since every big MCU project is using the multiverse, I’m praying John Krasinski, Ioan Gruffudd, and Miles Teller are shown as the Council of Reeds in Fantastic 4.
@kingavila7584
2 жыл бұрын
*Miller teller is the Maker*
@Jj_2723
2 жыл бұрын
Well technically it should all be one actor as in the comics they all looked the same but this is a cool idea
@tuniswil9791
5 жыл бұрын
MCU need to bring back Ioan Gruffudd &Jessica Alba&Michael Chiklis.
@bubu8914
6 жыл бұрын
he is so cute, cool and handsome
@_solo_000
5 жыл бұрын
So go marry him
@Boonses
5 жыл бұрын
How’s the science going rod I mean reed
@victortaylor7737
5 жыл бұрын
I actually started getting interested in engineering because of Mr Fantastic.in the comics, Reed is like a superpowered version of Einstein.its great to be able to elongated& have enhanced intelligence.
@tsresc
5 жыл бұрын
@@victortaylor7737 Me too. Reed and Tony helped me with my grades. They made my engineering easy.
@yeetwchybaban
4 жыл бұрын
Gay
@homeb0ys7515
2 жыл бұрын
String Cheese. If you know, you know.
@therealbleep
Ай бұрын
Bro change your profile picture it's a spoiler
@kroneexe
Ай бұрын
@@therealbleep No one cares.
@zachjohns6776
4 жыл бұрын
Elastigirl and Mr Fantastic (Reed Richards) have the same super ability. He can do what she can do. Right now, I'm thinking of calling him 'Elastiguy'.
@Hummingbirdzah
3 жыл бұрын
They should have gotten together
@rzwitdauncut
2 жыл бұрын
no reed can do it longer
@zachjohns6776
2 жыл бұрын
@@rustyshackleford4609 Right.
@nazarrikudo4580
Жыл бұрын
@@zachjohns6776 Elastiboy*
@seijin4426
22 күн бұрын
Luffy too
@TITANMAN251
5 жыл бұрын
I think Elastic is a pretty good Superpower.
@alpgul1689
5 жыл бұрын
TITANMAN251 same image what you can do with power like that
@acemarvel1564
5 жыл бұрын
I would really love it to have that cool super power
@pricemoore2022
4 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. That's why Mr Fantastic and Elastigirl had the same power to turn themselves into elastic shapes of something useful
@meliodasmeriodasu3494
4 жыл бұрын
yes
@thedarkcity4084
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol u should look at Luffy from One Piece
@django7783
3 жыл бұрын
In the end, these Fantastic Four's Movies weren't so bad!
@thedarkcity4084
4 жыл бұрын
2:27 Katakuri, is that you?
@thomasm528
3 жыл бұрын
Dooooonuts
@gorrow1990
2 жыл бұрын
This Mr. Fantastic > MCU Mr. Fantastic to date
@FCUYTFUYTF
2 жыл бұрын
Why did they cast Jim? Everyone in Illuminati was from past films. Why another 1?
@kiwiangeldust6912
2 жыл бұрын
@Julian R Exactly
@YeppyNope
5 жыл бұрын
Weird flex, but okay.
@Shockwave99999
5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@pravin7541
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@guardian6788
3 жыл бұрын
Bu dum tss!
@Jonathan-gz1cp
2 жыл бұрын
Who’s here after Multiverse of madness
@StarWarriorCentral
2 жыл бұрын
All these years later, it still catches me off guard when he gets down on one knee and then gets down a few seconds later! 😂
@denzel296
2 жыл бұрын
1:26 The Chad
@seijin4426
22 күн бұрын
What, you mean the Jay Leno chin?
@muhammadluthfialmauluddi1467
5 жыл бұрын
Gomu-Gomu No Mi 🤣
@seijin4426
22 күн бұрын
Before Luffy, there was Mr. Fantastic.
@olawalesalihu6710
2 жыл бұрын
If they make poly morphing look good here why can't they do the same for Ms. Marvel
@luisbalbuena6563
2 жыл бұрын
Probably wanting to save it for mr fanstic when he makes his mcu debute
@huguito2009a
5 жыл бұрын
I want this actor in the mcu again playing me fantastic!!!!
@beyonderboys
6 жыл бұрын
I've always had a question how does his clothes stretch with him
@diegohernandez5072
6 жыл бұрын
Likely he made civilian clothes out of the same unstable molecules as his supersuit
@jonathan-rw3mx
5 жыл бұрын
@@diegohernandez5072 stop being smart
@diegohernandez5072
5 жыл бұрын
hugedebt I’m just answering the question as to how Reed’s civilian clothes stretch with him.
@Panda-gf2se
5 жыл бұрын
Like elastic girl from incredibles
@victortaylor7737
5 жыл бұрын
Reed invents a material called unstable molecules which can mimic the wears powers- he fashioned uniforms for his teammates& I believe for other heroes too in the comics.i think all the FFs costumed & clothing are made of the special molecules so they can use their powers in costume or out.Reed is an expert in bio- chemistry, medicine,& a wide range of subjects, like.a superpowers Einstein if you will.
@Matheus13077
2 жыл бұрын
1:30 Reed turns into Gigachad
@commentateur-connaisseur-c1414
Жыл бұрын
Proud to say I never disliked the movies. Today, everyone finally praise them as it should be. They ain't Batman TDK but they are good entertainment.
@danielj4996
5 жыл бұрын
His greatest super power is that he is extremely smart
@hcbigdogdoghc
2 жыл бұрын
Mr fantastic would make some good spaghetti
@abangemirzaihanabangzulkip9502
2 жыл бұрын
The Illuminati members should consists of multiverse heroes like Gruffard's Mr Fantastic, Cruise's Iron Man, and Stewart's Xavier from X men universe. Krasinski should be the MCU version of Mr Fantastic.
@andrewvega5567
6 жыл бұрын
It's ashame that his powers weren't really used for fighting
@SeanWheeler100
6 жыл бұрын
You're right! He never stretch punched anyone! Okay, he dodged Doom's lightning blast and wrapped around Ben to restrain him and covered Doom like a blanket. But he never punched or kicked like Elastigirl. You'd have to play the video game to see his punch.
@DoltronMC
6 жыл бұрын
andrew Rodriguez Mr Fantastic fighting is very underrated, People would be surprised how powerful Shapeshifting and Elasticity could be.
@SeanWheeler100
6 жыл бұрын
Yvng J-Will Yeah, you can punch someone from 20 miles away!
@sazerx3612
6 жыл бұрын
he should watch how luffy fight
@aboyzeroeight
6 жыл бұрын
You mean like Luffy on One Piece. that should be what elastic powers used for fighting...
@superduperboyx
3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how long does he stretch himself for wifey Invisible Woman? Hmm...
@Hummingbirdzah
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂good question
@I-speak-U-shut-it
2 жыл бұрын
If I had his powers. I'd turn my wee wee to a snake and get all the women
@nickdelrio2024
3 жыл бұрын
1:35 Get off me, Rubber Boy!
@I-speak-U-shut-it
2 жыл бұрын
1:37 YOU GUYS QUIT IT🥴
@phoenixfirebird4221
25 күн бұрын
Bruh, man never needs to move to get something ever again
@benw4409
2 жыл бұрын
It should have been him in MoM. Every other Illuminati member is an established Marvel/MCU actor then there's Krasinski just rocking up cause of a fancast sticking out like a sore thumb. I loved the movie but it was weird TBH.
@charliebartram1705
4 жыл бұрын
It would actually be sick to do this stuff
@tylerbass2024
3 жыл бұрын
What would you do with this power
@callmehchloe4074
4 жыл бұрын
Mr fantastic is so cute 😍
@Hummingbirdzah
3 жыл бұрын
I know right he and Alba’s Sue were meant to be
@dansss4013
2 жыл бұрын
3:31 that's how you use gomu gomu fruit luffy..he still has much to learn
@6_checkmate_9
5 жыл бұрын
I kinda don't get how people didn't like thus version of fantastic the one that came out in 2017 was way more shitty. It made this look like it could win a grammy something
@Timme2
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic four in the thing
@judetucker
4 жыл бұрын
this just convinced me that reed richards scares the shit outta me
@serenitycoleman4463
Жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice that his hair is a little white? 0:12
@ZuperGabo
3 жыл бұрын
cant wait till he goes gear 4th
@aidanbarnes4290
5 жыл бұрын
I like the part when he turns into donut
@hopelessnostalgic8444
2 жыл бұрын
He’s coming back in Dr Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. I’ll come back to this!
@manofsteel048
2 жыл бұрын
Is it really him? What about those krasinski rumours? I hope it's gruffudd though
@hopelessnostalgic8444
2 жыл бұрын
@@manofsteel048 it’s not him it’s Krasinki, unfortunately. But I think he’ll do a good job as well but Ioan was just perfect
@jacktonsauron8185
2 жыл бұрын
Kransinski was disrespected by wanda bro
@addy3164
2 жыл бұрын
1:28 How is this not a meme? 😂😂😂 Reed literally turns into Gigachad
@thENDweDIE
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, It's Captain Hornblower...xD I liked the part where he stretched his arm real far..!!
@jamesabraham1536
4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a video game dedicated just for this guy...
@tiga92001
3 жыл бұрын
With help from dahlsim from STREET FIGHTER 2 and fluffy from one piece he could be trained for next MARVEL vs CAPCOM video game
@seijin4426
22 күн бұрын
The rubber band band.
@Raincloudblue
25 күн бұрын
Okay but how does his clothes stretch like that too 😂
@davidmatory8859
5 жыл бұрын
He need training from Luffy.... Gomu Gomu no Gatling gun 👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿👊🏿
@JakeLlavore
4 жыл бұрын
Reed Richards/Mr. Fantastic (Ioan Gruffudd)
@therealenriqueparra
2 жыл бұрын
And now we have Jim Halpert as Mr. Fantastic.
@benjaminmedrano1177
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently this is why Ms Marvel didn't get her stretchy powers? Lol
@I-speak-U-shut-it
2 жыл бұрын
Ioan Gruffudd and Chris Evans are my favorite Fantastic 4 people
@smoothiemcguffin2721
5 жыл бұрын
I actually rly liked the first one
@marboygamesplus1357
4 жыл бұрын
Super
@helenparr4234
6 жыл бұрын
My Powers are no match for Mr. Fantastic. Oh wait. I have the same power as him! Even though, I'm Elastigirl.
@Spidoor13
5 жыл бұрын
Helen Parr! It's you! I'm in the Elastic Army!
@ajayxkushwaha
5 жыл бұрын
copied *lol*
@edmontonboy99
5 жыл бұрын
Helen Parr Edna will be upset if you ever wear a suit designed by Alexander Galbaki again
@anildehare5613
5 жыл бұрын
Good
@cansnow9178
5 жыл бұрын
Luffy beats all of you
@juangonzalez740
3 жыл бұрын
totally can’t wait for Ms Marvel’s show
@I-speak-U-shut-it
2 жыл бұрын
FCK Ms marvel
@alcerdemon9768
Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see how creative they can get with his powers if he appears on the MCU again
@IkarisPrimeEternal
Жыл бұрын
Stretching is the best superpower ever I love this power Mr Fantastic is awesome
@Billy-mj4
4 ай бұрын
¿Can You Imagine *Elastigirl From The Incredibles🦸🏻♂️🦸🏻🦸🏻♀️* Falling🏢🌃 2:15 And Hitting😖😖😖 2:17 2:21 Like That Same Way?
@trendydwarf3747
2 жыл бұрын
The best F4
@archive6094
3 жыл бұрын
1:28 Mr Chadtastic
@y0ungApeks
2 жыл бұрын
If the OP live action can do as good cgi as this which came out some time ago it could be banger
@ytanonymity3585
3 жыл бұрын
How the combo would be if Luffy, Elastic girl and Mr. Fantastic worked together ?
@IronHawk96
2 жыл бұрын
The most intense game of Twister
@IputmyfaithinJesus30
4 жыл бұрын
I came here for One piece live action in Netflix , how do luffy in live action 🤪😂🤣
@joakofan9579
3 жыл бұрын
2:46 Remember when Elastigirl made herself taller than Mr. Incredible?
@sophoniempela1224
3 жыл бұрын
Mr Fantastic is the leader of the Fantastic 4 and he's the husband of the Invisible Woman, best friends to The Thing & The Human Torch
@amandag.6186
2 жыл бұрын
He also makes a good spaghetti
@anthonyfranco88
2 жыл бұрын
Alright - when he became a blanket on to Dr. Doom, that was smooth af
@stevenyang8312
4 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up if you're here because of the One Piece series announcement
@ytanonymity3585
3 жыл бұрын
Not only One Piece but also The Incredible announcement
@josherickson9677
5 жыл бұрын
I've been imaging that I have stretchy powers since I was 6.
@nilehoruseus
4 жыл бұрын
These were the good old days
@FCUYTFUYTF
2 жыл бұрын
Should've used this guy!!!!! Wtf. Why Jim!!!!?
@sksamsuddin2282
4 жыл бұрын
I love it
@sksamsuddin2282
4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic
@aidanfox8219
Жыл бұрын
Smartest guy on earth.
@sholabolaji2975
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic four is like the incredibles when ya think about it
@JAVONTII
6 жыл бұрын
Elastigirl outsold!
@schattentaenzerin
10 ай бұрын
Just because a movie is campy, doesn't mean it's bad. I still love these. Why not have fun with those characters?
@prinzdenax
Жыл бұрын
whos here cuz of OP live action
@pricemoore2022
4 жыл бұрын
Haus of Heroes I love this video
@ConcealedWeaponry
5 жыл бұрын
This movie was so much better than the 2015 remake.
@nilehoruseus
5 жыл бұрын
Like elongated man
@nilehoruseus
4 жыл бұрын
Ioan Gruffudd did a great job as Mr Fantastic better than Miles Teller
@ammarmd4342
4 жыл бұрын
But miles teller face like genius
@davidthirugnanakumar7888
2 жыл бұрын
I think they Cast very good actors but the script is Just shit
@mansal6585
Жыл бұрын
1:28 The first "chad"
@sarahregina6696
5 жыл бұрын
Fantástico
@EarleTKG
4 жыл бұрын
He should learn “gear second “
@mattstew32
4 жыл бұрын
1:00 what song is this? Please and thank you.
@jsanchez94321
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic four 2005 sountrack!
@Zwill1208
2 жыл бұрын
Here to see if Luffy in live action can look good
@justmayo6097
2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the movie 😁
@RaydentkSIR
4 жыл бұрын
His truth power is his Intelligence.
@wernerheisenberg6806
2 жыл бұрын
Mr fantastic main powers are not his flexibility but his intelligence
@chuuu2496
6 жыл бұрын
How does his clothes stretch
@Spidoor13
5 жыл бұрын
I dunno.
@nusthedespair9466
5 жыл бұрын
@@Spidoor13 thats what i was thinking.
@Spidoor13
5 жыл бұрын
My clothes also stretch. But not with Ben Tennyson’s jacket.
@onemanfromOHIO
5 жыл бұрын
They made the clothes to mimic there powers
@stretchyweirdo787
5 жыл бұрын
The Suits that Reed created for the 4 of them (himself too) to make it work for their powers
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