Ive been thinking about this on my rewatch, and I think the reason the 407 reveal hit so fucking hard is because the whole show feels like it leads up to it. Even more so than the final reveal. The show brings up the window event constantly in seemingly random points to kind of keep it in your mind. His father always seems so nice in flashbacks and Elliot talks about him all the time in a positive light, but there’s always something that bugs you about him until 407. Like the whole window event, the fact that Elliot forgot what he looked like, him swearing Elliot to secrecy about his cancer. So when that 407 reveal hits it’s like OH. It’s very similar to real life examples like Jimmy Savile and grounded where it seems alright at the time, but you look back and see all the red flags.
@TheNico8008
8 күн бұрын
Dude yes, my revelation was in an episode where Elliot is with his dad at the movies and he collapses, seemingly dying. Elliot doesn’t react or have any sadness, he just takes the jacket walks into their theater and sits down then begins talking to himself. That made me think the dad wasn’t so great. I’m on my 2nd watch and noticing all the little hints
@Tenjysan
15 күн бұрын
Great video. Mr. Robot is my absolute favorite series for several reasons, and the twists play a part in that. I love how the twists are thematically and perfectly integrated into the entire structure of the series. Elliot goes through the five stages of grief not only in episode 4x07 but also throughout the entire series. And I think it's cool how each of the twists corresponds to one of the stages. The first twist, revealing Mr. Robot, leads to Elliot's anger towards himself.(From Denial to anger) The twist from episode 4x07 leads to his depression, (from bargaining to depression) and the final twist leads to acceptance.(from depression to acceptance) Really brilliant writing. By the way, in case you didn't know, there is an official book by Sam Esmail about Mr. Robot. This book is basically the diary from the second season that you can buy and read. If you haven't read it yet, I recommend doing so. The dynamic between the mastermind and Mr. Robot is further deepened, and it also offers many other additional things, all related to season 2, Not many people know about this book, but it's worth it. It's called Mr. Robot Red Wheelbarrow.
@Deuterium1008
11 күн бұрын
I didn't know about the book! Definitely need to check it out, thanks
@Jojo_EDIT-zn3eq
15 күн бұрын
Damn nice content Mr robot was best show ever created
@Pikachu-de-modric
8 күн бұрын
fantastic video , the plot twist in 407 proxy was absolutely well done also that the flashback in 308 "don't delete me" gets masterfully recontextualizes that Ellot saying "sick" does not refers to Edward's disease but it refers to abuse that Elliot suffered and back to theatre scene the person he is taking to is mr robot. As you mentioned 407 plays a very crucial part in mastermind and krista's dynamic establishing a greter bond between that goes beyond a therapist and a patient it is more like a mother and son dynamic , a mother that mastermind didn't created in his mind , A love and care of a mother he got in the real world. This thing gets beautifully reflected in "hello Elliot" that ep that I interpret as reflection of things and peoples that how Elliot perceived them that leads to "unreal krista" and mastermind conversation. Here Elliot's mind formed a fragment of Memory in the form of krista "The Mother" to tell the truth to the mastermind " son" to tel the truth about his birth means a mother telling her son the truth about his birth. Also a thing that that I want to end is how 5 acts of episode is also can be seen as 5 acts of a a Shakespearean play_ Act 1- exposition Act 2 -rising action Act 3 - climax Act4 - falling action Act 5 - resolution. I would really like to see your analysis on the show, you gained a subscriber.
@Tenjysan
3 күн бұрын
And that's why Krista's murder of Vera is a well-executed moment. Krista fills the role that Elliot's biological mother couldn't. There are many hints that suggest Elliot's mother knew what Edward did to him and still didn't intervene. But Krista does exactly that. i Know many who didn't like Vera's death but most likely didn't understand all the layers.
@Pikachu-de-modric
2 күн бұрын
@@Tenjysan That's great contrast that Elliot's biological mother didn't stood up against and ended the "Evil" in Elliot's life but krista did ended the evil in elliot's life making her role as mother more prominent. so yea I think it was really great way to end up vera's character 407 and also it symbolically very well as that whole painting thing is krista's room and vera with yellow colour he wore in ep symbolising the gold "path" in the center of the painting and the end pointing at the shining tree as the tree that is the stand-in for the pinnacle of enlightenment , He became the catalyst for the path of Elliot's enlightenment. so it is quite great conclusion.
@system-pn5qw
16 күн бұрын
good video!
@ahmedghareeb5027
6 күн бұрын
if possible make more content and video about mr. robot series, I really enjoyed the show
@ilkkamiinalainen7116
6 күн бұрын
I personally do not believe this was the greatest plot twist on TV. But an excellent one nonetheless
@badvalentinex8779
10 күн бұрын
I don't think Vera was genuine when he tried to calm Elliot after the reveal, because he speaks out against abusers telling Elliot that what happend to him as a child is not his fault while Vera himself Sexually molested Krista in the same episode when his hand was slipping under her skirt, also he raped Shayla in the first season. That makes me believe Vera wasn't showing empathy towards Elliot but trying to manipulate him, he also told Krista he wanted to Break him in order to own him.
@Deuterium1008
7 күн бұрын
Right, good on catching that
@navarroX99
14 күн бұрын
I still think that Whiterose is missing something like why did she/he commit suicide? Was she thinking she was going to come back to life after initiating the nuclear machine? I would like to see more of Elliot's normal personality but I understand it's not necessary artistic-wise. And well I also have my doubts like who is addicted to morhine, both Elliot and the mastermind I can imagine. How social is Elliot? Ollie was saying that it had been always like that but maybe is because Elliot was very depressed. WHo destroyed the servers in his old job, MR-robot I guess not the mastermind, as mastermind remembers that. In what exact moment did mastermind take over Elliot's mind?
@Tenjysan
14 күн бұрын
One of the themes of the show was the power of imagination and how it can help or harm someone. This is exactly what the creator wants the viewers to do: use their own imagination. If he had answered all these questions, the magic would have been lost. You are meant to make up your own mind. Whether Whiterose killed herself because she knew she would enter the other reality or because she realized it made no sense to continue doesn't really matter. It shows us how far belief can go and that it is not a solution but a prison that one has created for oneself. I would advise you to rewatch the series because your other questions are actually quite obvious. But I'll answer them briefly for you: How social is Elliot: If you consider the time in which the show takes place, he is not very social. Someone who had such a childhood will have problems in social life. Who destroyed the servers at his old job: Mr. Robot. Who is addicted to morphine: Regardless of which personality takes morphine, it affects in some sort all personalities because they share one body. So it also harms Elliot's body. Mr. Robot tries to reduce the pain through illusions, as we have often seen. In what exact moment did the mastermind take over Elliot's mind: This can only be speculated. I would say that this was a gradual process and fully awakened around the beginning of the show. There is an episode that shows a small flashback of Darlene and Elliot, and many assume that this was the birth of the mastermind (Mr. Robot Season 2, Episode 4).
@navarroX99
13 күн бұрын
@@Tenjysan thanks a lot
@Deuterium1008
11 күн бұрын
@@Tenjysan couldn't have responded better.
@MyselfandTom
Күн бұрын
Whiterose was delusional and believed that she could actually create a new world with the power of belief/thought. Much like many religions believe, once they die, they'll be resurrected into a paradise world. Whiterose also represents suicidal idealization. Whiterose even tried to convince Elliot to join her by saying that all his pain would be gone and he'd see Angela again. That's why everyone on Dark Army committed suicide. They believed their life on this earth didn't matter and that they would be reborn once the new world was created. In the end, Whiterose was wrong. There is no perfect world. Yes, death takes the pain away, but suicide is never the answer. Elliot realized this in season 3, and he kept fighting for his life and future. That's the message at the end that he tells Whiterose, but Whiterose is too far gone into her delusion of suicidal idealization that she kills herself, thinking that she's proving her point. All she is at the end is dead.
@Jojo_EDIT-zn3eq
15 күн бұрын
Can you make one on Sopranos
@Deuterium1008
11 күн бұрын
I haven't seen the Sopranos, but it's on my watch list. Heard it's good
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