Jonathan, definitely higher on the list than Kora.
@andynitzschkr7068
5 жыл бұрын
Child of alara boardwiping avatar
@luij5785
5 жыл бұрын
Fair enough
@FrankDad
5 жыл бұрын
Andy Nitzschkr r/whoosh
@brentongallant5623
4 жыл бұрын
we both know Korra won't be on this list though!
@peterjessen97
5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that Hogaak is #3, even tho it's been out for 2 months Perfectly balanced card
@realitant
5 жыл бұрын
to be fair, all of the avatars had very low point totals
@sonofchlar6144
4 жыл бұрын
And then banned.
@atlys258
4 жыл бұрын
As all things should be
@n0obz27
3 жыл бұрын
@@realitant while you are correct, op was being sarcastic
@raynmanshorts9275
5 жыл бұрын
>The embodiment of the plane of Innistrad >Not legendary
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
They wanted to make a new version of the Titan cycle. It was not nearly as successful.
@sjstronghold9238
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheShinyFeraligatr It was sooo much worse...
@cutecommie
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheShinyFeraligatr I can't think of these as Titan successors. They are not nearly as pushed as they don't give you any value without pumping more mana into them. I think they're just supposed to be flavorful.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
@@cutecommie You can think of them however you'd like. Wizards, however, wanted them to be the new Titans. magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/heart-and-souls-standard-2014-07-04
@ceulgai2817
5 жыл бұрын
I understand where you're coming from, but a plane can have more than one embodiment.
@elliotlesser4373
5 жыл бұрын
Now this is interesting. I didn't expect this creature type to be a top ten. Nice choice!
@raynmanshorts9275
5 жыл бұрын
Figure of Destiny is always so hilarious to me. Just look at him.
@KabukiKid
5 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of those little guys (podlings) from The Dark Crystal who were drained and all "zombified" by the Skeksis. They had those milky eyes with a blank look on their faces. kzitem.info/news/bejne/tmqs1Y6ia2pyd4Im4s
@ernestlam5632
4 жыл бұрын
I have that card
@raynmanshorts9275
5 жыл бұрын
MTG players: "Oh, wow! Finally a convoke creature that isn't massively overcosted to 'balance' convoke!" WotC: *Bans* MTG players: *Shocked Pikachu face* The funny part being that he HAD to be convoked into play or else cheated.
@eduardobarros3986
5 жыл бұрын
That's a pretty weird way to spell "delve"
@faerie7dragon
5 жыл бұрын
Turns out Delve is still as stupid as ever.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
Convoke was never the problem. If it had costed, like, 5 and had no Delve it would have been very strong but probably not banworthy (being as it would literally entirely fold to boardwipes) Delve is a fucking bustedly broken mechanic in literally every way and every time they bring it back it finds brand new ways to fuck up metagames.
@cutecommie
5 жыл бұрын
@@TheShinyFeraligatr Delve is not broken in limited. And _some_ standards.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
@@cutecommie Dredge also wasn't broken in Limited or Standard. Are you going to argue Dredge isn't bustedly broken?
@Kona_AJ
5 жыл бұрын
I know Karona won't get a mention but I name avatar as my chosen creature type in so many edh games
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
Watch out for mardu Shadow, Ranger-captain is no joke. Also with hex parasite, you can actually run previously unplayable cards in the sideboard like Kaya and Kambul. If your life total gets too high, just sink it into the parasite.
@09Dragonite
5 жыл бұрын
Wow, kind of mad I sold my Mardu Tokens shell now before trying out Mardu Shadow. Bitterblossom may be slow, but it feels like a decent card for the list. Extra flying 1/1s that can go over the opponent or block to preserve what little life total I have left sounds nice...
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
@@09Dragonite Dude, all the cards I've sold and bought back .... All you know is what you have that you don't need and what you need that don't have, today. I certainly don't regret selling Archangel Avacyn when she was $40. I bought back Gideon, AOZ for far less than I sold him for. Same with the leylines. You never know. Don't sell fetchlands unless you have too and it's better to be a "buy high" victim than a "sell low" one. And if you have extra cash, invest in aether revolt pack foil pushes. They're around $9 today (09/14/19), hmu in a year and see where they are then.
@joeboi8284
5 жыл бұрын
Won many games using Serra Avatar back in the day, disappointed it didn't make the list. Great list as usual though, enjoy seeing throwback cards and how they'd rank in today's gameplay. 👍👍
@marvthereddevil5418
4 жыл бұрын
Was glad to see Avatar of Woe on this list. I use it in my reanimation deck, it's one of my favourite card arts & my playset is signed by RK Post himself.
@mattd3978
5 жыл бұрын
Avatar of woe!! Used to run it in my reanimator deck too. Definitely my fave Avatar
@AnonymousAnonposter
3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite cards of all time, god I miss when MtG used to had great art.
@ungulatemanalpha
5 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, Autumn Willow saw play because of a rules quirk during early pro Magic where you were obliged to play some number of cards from each set, and she was the best card from her set by a significant margin!
@Mooonhead
5 жыл бұрын
What about a Top 10 of the best heal spells in the game? I know, healing is trash, but that also means that this will be a list of cards most people haven't considered or seen that much already.
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
5 жыл бұрын
Moonhead I mean, at least then the cards on the list will properly belong on the list. Unlike, Karn, Beast Within, Garruk, Garruk, Dark Depths and Ajani for example.
@realitant
5 жыл бұрын
@@ZakanaHachihaCBC I would guess that thragtusk would be #1 or close to it. absorb could be on there too. Dragon's claw, Kor Firewalker, and Auriok Champion all see sideboard play. Actually lightning helix is likely #1.I'm sure I'm missing some, but those are the big ones coming to mind
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
5 жыл бұрын
Jittie. That would be in the top 3. Also let’s just scrap this list. He’s just going to put cards that grant lifelink on it because they are ‘life gain’ cards.
@realitant
5 жыл бұрын
@@ZakanaHachihaCBC lol I forgot jitte can gain life. I can't really think of any great lifeline cards. The only one that's coming to mind is Kalitas. Also, I'm now realizing that without a doubt, the most played "life gain card" is swords to plowshares
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
With Plague Engineer seeing more and more sideboards, I'm a little curious about top 10 carriers
@madspunky
5 жыл бұрын
Autumn Willow was only played because of weird 'Type II' rules back then: you had to use five cards of each set or something like that. Autumn Willow wasn't necessarily good, it was simply not as bad as the rest of the Homelands set! Serrated Arrows was used a lot for the same reason. At least, this is what I recall. Please correct me if I am wrong.
@cutecommie
5 жыл бұрын
Wtf were those rules. Gotta sell Homelands packs somehow...
@madspunky
5 жыл бұрын
@@cutecommie It's hard to find sources for this, but in Magic Encyclopedia, Volume 3, it mentions this about the Pro Tour 1996 (New York): 'This Pro Tour used an interesting deck construction format, a variation of the Standard or 'Type II' format. In addition to the usual restrictions for Standard Decks, each deck was required to contain at least five cards from each of the legal expansions.'
@brianmorgan7703
4 жыл бұрын
I remember at a local extended tournament, I used Dramatic Entrance to drop Progenitus at the end of their third turn. That was fun, short, but fun
@ghostaccountlmao
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Nizzahon just edits in the same audio about dark depths since the first time he's had to mention that card and it's hilarious history post hexmage
@NLDesigns
5 жыл бұрын
I play a new variant of Mardu Shadow with Ranger, Captain of Eos Swifty and Young Peezy, it's scary
@deltacommand8053
4 жыл бұрын
My favorites are Ur-Dragon and Progenitus. Damn those two are awesome.
@jproductions1739
5 жыл бұрын
Jund Death's Shadow and 4c Death's Shadow used to be good in addition to Grixis but right now in Modern the preferred builds are Grixis and Mardu (Ranger-Captain of Eos is a friggin house).
@Twitch760
5 жыл бұрын
Personal Incarnation w/Ward spells and COP was one of my favorite cards back in the day.
@hiddenleaf414
5 жыл бұрын
Always impressed with the amount of work that goes into your videos! Keep up the great work!
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@andros1486
4 жыл бұрын
I used to play Progenitus in Legacy in 2013/14 using Natural Order. Good times. :)
@Wesleyy13337
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see Depths so low on the list. Where do you think it'll end up in the list eventually, given that some of the other avatars don't see play in eternal formats?
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
Is it really? It is the highest ranked non-modern legal card on the list, besides Hogaak of course. I could certainly see it overtaking chronicler at #6.
@czajda
5 жыл бұрын
What is “evantually”? :-) 20 years? :-D
@ZakanaHachihaCBC
5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, it doesn’t belong on the list as it’s not an avatar. I know the rules say ‘oh if it makes it it counts’ but then it’s not top avatars.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t remember if Revillark was an Elemental Avatar or not, but with Figure at 2 it was obviously not given DS. Nice to see a Homelands card on the top 10, even if only barely though - Autumn Willow was legit solid in those days too. Also man it’s funny how you did the quickest bans video and within a month two cards would have to have been added to that list.
@psychsteeves4577
5 жыл бұрын
Hogaak and what else?
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
@@psychsteeves4577 Mystic Forge, which would be higher than Hogaak.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlueRidgeSilverhound ...I fail to see your point.
@TheShinyFeraligatr
5 жыл бұрын
@@BlueRidgeSilverhound ...but it is. Well, Restricted, but it's Restricted nonetheless.
@cutecommie
5 жыл бұрын
I think Elementals are rarely other types.
@gregthewalnut603
5 жыл бұрын
It's actually arguable that Hogaak got better post BfB ban. His win % in most matchups is equivalent, with post-ban edging a few points forward.
@czajda
5 жыл бұрын
Boring Consigliere it was miss build with altar and bridge...some pro said it in interview
@amecarethqc6652
5 жыл бұрын
It would be fun to have some top 10s about the EDH format eventually :)
@justinanderson2631
5 жыл бұрын
I love EDH but it's a casual format. If you pay attention to how the lists are scored, it's usually based on pro tours and/or grand prix. None of which I imagine feature commander
@amecarethqc6652
5 жыл бұрын
@@justinanderson2631 You make a point there, EDH has a very likely less developed competitive screen. I was suggesting it because, even though it's casual as you say, it's still an official format.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
Nizz typically uses EDHREC for his worst videos
@CrimsonHiroX07
5 жыл бұрын
I've hard cast progenitus in commander for the lol's. There was a lot of panic around the table because "protection from everything". Still don't understand the panic though...
@shadowofseattle1338
5 жыл бұрын
Its an unremovable 10/10 that cant be blocked or spelled in any way so it effectively a clock on your opponents
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
I actually hardcast a Gurmag angler before in a Pauper match.
@CrimsonHiroX07
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidminor4213 you sir, are a madman. I still don't have a good cheap answer for it yet....
@CrimsonHiroX07
5 жыл бұрын
@@shadowofseattle1338 not when board wipes are plentiful, or worse, fog-type effects are constant...
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
@@CrimsonHiroX07 ya, it went like this: "Okay, here's something neither of us have ever seen before and will never see again. Ya, I'm going to pay 7 for Gurmag angler
@atlys258
4 жыл бұрын
Aang is my absolute favorite avatar.. but Figure of Destiny is pretty legit too 😂
@hugeheadliang
5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that progenitus is also a 10 cmc red creature, which was relevant
@joserene-t5z
5 жыл бұрын
Why was this relevant?
@LightningStryke27
5 жыл бұрын
@@joserene-t5z I'm going to assume it was pitched to blazing shoal to give +10/+10 to a creature.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
Wait, how does the dark depths/vampire hexmage work on turn 2 if dark depths can't tap for Mana? Much less black Mana?
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
Durp .... Urborg. Nevermind.
@czajda
5 жыл бұрын
Mox diamond, chrome mox, dark ritual :-)
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
@@czajda ya, them too. I pretty much only play modern and Pauper so.....
@felixmortem1177
5 жыл бұрын
Posting at 1 am is the perfect time for me to see the video
@jondean2729
5 жыл бұрын
also probably should've mentioned Progenitus' place in burning shoal infect at least as a side note
@midnightbard3935
5 жыл бұрын
When I think about it, shouldn't the Eldrazi titans have the Avatar subtype, since they are the physical manifestation of the Eldrazies, that live in Blind Eternitiess?
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
I think Eldrazi Titans are a super specific kind of Avatar, so they get their own tyoe.
@ssj3skiboard
5 жыл бұрын
Top 10 Dinosaurs! Please!
@reedjohnson5916
5 жыл бұрын
Nice just looked up deaths shadow 10.99, I remember buying mine for .99
@marcoottina654
8 ай бұрын
This needs a revisit :D
@jdodson4421
3 жыл бұрын
I saw progenitus in a card shop and bought him because of this video. I have no idea what to do with him. lol I love its artwork, though.
@jormgundtheballast7397
3 жыл бұрын
Mah boi Figure of Destiny!!!
@andynitzschkr7068
5 жыл бұрын
Can I suggest you do a top 10 avatar commander list?
@mikechurchill1071
5 жыл бұрын
Soon as I read the card and saw “you CANT use mana to cast this card.” I told everyone at the LGS this was going to be a problem. Before the set was even released I said idk how or why but this card will be a huge problem and bam it was.
@realitant
5 жыл бұрын
I mean delve and convoke. not hard to see how that's gonna be a problem
@Valiguss
5 жыл бұрын
What about demigod of revenge, it’s a 5 cost 5/4 with haste that summons more of it
@ethan6287
5 жыл бұрын
I wish you had mentioned Mono Blue infect in the section on Protogenasis.
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
5 жыл бұрын
So normally I'd be here far faster, but I've actually had a lot going on. So I'm really late. I can't think of good segues right now. So just do Top 10 Vintage Cards (minus power 9).
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
What are you going to do the day I finally do that? Haha
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I guess I'll think of something!
@minnman37
5 жыл бұрын
Great list
@chapmanandchapmanproductio974
Жыл бұрын
10:13 the playlist is not on my screen
@redstonepro5412
5 жыл бұрын
I thing the delve problem could have been solvved with a oracle change, that you have to exile 2 cards Than hogaak, treasure cruise, and dig through time would be fair cards i guess
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
That is some really extreme errata
@redstonepro5412
5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic yes, but it would l Solve the problem
@theradiance256
5 жыл бұрын
Rip to Hogaak. May he die in Legacy Hell!
@cutecommie
5 жыл бұрын
>he
@supertux2998
5 жыл бұрын
How is there no top 10 elves?
@GameAlicornLuna
5 жыл бұрын
Was hoping for Demigod of Revenge. Sadness that he wasn't on it.
@AidanWR
5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Avatar of Me isn't on here. :P
@Someone-sq8im
5 жыл бұрын
**Sees video** **Sees Progenitus as thumbnail** *WHAT THE FU-*
@ToTheNines87368
5 жыл бұрын
Woe nice video man
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@HaydenX
5 жыл бұрын
I guessed Figure for number 1 because I forgot Death's Shadow was an Avatar.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
You obviously don't play Shadow lol.
@HaydenX
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidminor4213 No, I don't. But...in what universe is there a tribal Avatar deck with Death's Shadow at the head? Its type really doesn't matter 99.999% of the time.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
@@HaydenX Agreed, I was making a funny. Sorry if it came out mean. Every Shadow player knows he's an Avatar, because, well, we look at that card a lot. Same with every control player knows Snap is a human wizard, etc
@HaydenX
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidminor4213 Snapcaster is obviously a human wizard though...if I saw the art for Death's Shadow without knowing its creature type, and it was up to me to assign a type to it...I'd say Horror or Horror Spirit.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
@@HaydenX Sure, point is people who play a certain deck regularly, tend to know exactly what creature type a card is because they look at it all the time. Burn players know swiftspear is exactly a human monk and eidolon is exactly an enchantment spirit. Hogaak players knew he was an Avatar ---- on the surface he could be mistaken for a horror. Mardu Shadow players can tell you sculler is an artifact zombie. Etc etc Jokes are like frogs, when you dissect them, they die
@shadowofseattle1338
5 жыл бұрын
Avatar of death Lord of death? My call
@benpugh124
5 жыл бұрын
Interesting that when you grade the best cards, you don't included commander, but when you do the worst cards, you look at commander decks. Lots of cards that haven't done anything in 1v1 formats have done extremely well in commander.
@ceulgai2817
5 жыл бұрын
It's not really that interesting. He doesn't look at Commander because it's not a competitive format. However, "worst cards" don't have any points, so he has to look at casual data.
@vaughnbocchino
5 жыл бұрын
Big up for Autumn Willow.
@EloquentTroll
5 жыл бұрын
I really thought Avatar of Discord was going to be a major player in standard and extended. I traded for 20 of them at the prerelease. It never did anything. Turns out that strategies that want to you have no cards in hand are a poor idea.
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah 3 for 1ing yourself is a bad call
@EloquentTroll
5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I was too sold on the promise of Hellbent, but I am tuning up Anje Falkenwrath, so I might find a home for one of them.
My Top 10 Avatars list: 1) Kyoshi 2) Roku 3) Aang 4) Korra 5) Wan 6) Kuruk 7) Yangchen 8) Salai 9) ??? 10) There's only 8 Avatars we know the name of
@siraptor1o251
3 жыл бұрын
I’m a fan of verdant
@akoskovacs6830
5 жыл бұрын
Top 10 reviewed card types based on points received?
@ceulgai2817
5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean Creature types? If so, Nizzahon has already made a video like that.
@CharlieDebts
3 жыл бұрын
Don't underestimate Verdant Sun's Avatar
@ianalexander5823
5 жыл бұрын
Lmao hogaak wasnt better before bridge was banned. Post ban hogaak was way scarier
@CharlieDebts
3 жыл бұрын
My goal in life is to get Verdant Sun's Avatar on this list.
@darkmatter32x
5 жыл бұрын
Dark Depths better be number 1 or two or imma flip out.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure it would be #2 if it was modern legal. Possibly challenge Shadow for #1 even. Even at #7, it's the top non-modern legal card besides Hogaak
@louisherman5984
5 жыл бұрын
I had an Ajani avatar token with lifelink one time against my little brother. He phthisised it...
@tonysuthechineseguy
3 жыл бұрын
imagine not having avatar of me on this list
@nickbalmes6640
5 жыл бұрын
Poor Hogaak, printed in Modern Horizons then banned from Modern after a few months.
@davidminor4213
5 жыл бұрын
That's what's commonly refered to as ...... a mistake
@czajda
5 жыл бұрын
I expected Serra Ascendant, but she isnt avatar :-D
@chapmanandchapmanproductio974
Жыл бұрын
What the hell is an avatar?
@cspeeds96
5 жыл бұрын
Wooooooo
@parker6550
5 жыл бұрын
Personal Incarnation?
@teco8835
5 жыл бұрын
Where is mutavault
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@leviv168
5 жыл бұрын
It's hogak..not hogok
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
It is actually Hogaak. Which should have a soft A.
@leviv168
5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic obviously it has 2 a's. I typed it that way to get pronunciation across. I've literally never heard anyone pronounce it how you did. I'm not a professor or anything and I could easily be wrong but you're the only person I've heard say it like that
@NizzahonMagic
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have heard it the other way, but it doesn't make sense phonetically. It is like how people say Or-zov.
@leviv168
5 жыл бұрын
@@NizzahonMagic I guess. but names are always different especially in English. like my name starts with "vat" but is pronounced "vot". I guess this just proves English is dumb
@stezenast5878
4 жыл бұрын
Avatar of wOaHhHhH
@joshelderkin9592
3 жыл бұрын
Bring back fearrr lol
@larsclaeys6056
4 жыл бұрын
I have avatar of woe Lol
@PokeBattlerJaze
5 жыл бұрын
Gonna guess Death's Shadow as number 1? Edit: Too easy.
@aaronsmith6632
4 жыл бұрын
And for the #1 Avatar of all time... James Cameron's.
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