The ending sentiment makes me feel like you should do a top 9 of the power 9.
@DJFracus
Жыл бұрын
@Creatotron We all know Sol Ring is an honorary member of the power 9... excluded only because it wasn't a rare...!
@Rorschachqp
Жыл бұрын
@@DJFracusactually it wasn’t included because it wasn’t OOPed.
@Rorschachqp
Жыл бұрын
Mox Pearl wouldn’t make the Power Nine and instead, Chaos Orb would make it. Also, Timetwister would be #1.
@OMGitshimitis
Жыл бұрын
What about a top 10 of all cards banned in all other formats and restricted in vintage? That way we get to see if there are any cards from the power 9 that get out competed by cards with an equivalent tournament status.
@AngryBob4213
Жыл бұрын
@@OMGitshimitisthis is actually a great idea!
@_jordaank_4970
Жыл бұрын
Wheeling is one of my favourite things to do in magic , great job nizzahon🔥
@RibusPQR
Жыл бұрын
Am I tripping, or was there a recent Top Ten that ALSO had Wheel of Fortune at #2 and Timetwister at #1? Edit: I think I was thinking of Most Expensive Sorceries
@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
Жыл бұрын
I *have* wheels. I absolutely hate them and loathe them being played. So I have no nostalgia for this list, whenever I host an EDH game on XMage I ban wheels, because they're just non-interactive slogfests. Heck, the #1 wouldn't even make it onto "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)" they're that obnoxious!
@gkeuler
Жыл бұрын
Take my like sir
@user-fu7no1xu5b
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of making a top 10 but only for a single format? For example top 10 modern cards, but only the points they got in modern count. You should do one for vintage!! Except you'd probably have to exclude some cards. You could do Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)
@danielhavens8819
Жыл бұрын
personally I'd consider a wheel any effect that makes both players discard their hands and then draw *any* number of cards, not just 7. do other people think of it that way or is it just me?
@javierpatag3609
Жыл бұрын
Sure, why not? What cards are that do that? How would that change the list here if we shift the definition?
@danielhavens8819
Жыл бұрын
@@javierpatag3609 dark deal and windfall are the ones that come to mind immediately for me. I don't think there are too many others and I have no idea where any of them would be on the list, just something I was curious about
@emperorhadrian6011
Жыл бұрын
Wish I could have been there for combo winter.
@TheMajesticYak0
Жыл бұрын
Since Windfall draws a variable amount of cards I assume it was not eligible for this list. I'm curious though if it would have had enough points to make the list or not.
@astuteanansi4935
Жыл бұрын
Technically, Day's Undoing ending the turn is not all downside. If your opponent loves doing stuff on your turn at instant speed, it can serve as a makeshift counterspell and throw a wrench into their plans. Unfortunately its sorcery speed doesn't let it react to triggered "at the beginning of your next end step" effects the way Obeka and Sundial of the Infinite can.
@SevenWD40
Жыл бұрын
This video is wheely good.
@TheKillerman3333
Жыл бұрын
I just want in izzet deep draw deck. The focus is me decking myself out as fast as possible while benefiting from draw effects like tefferi's tutlage or the blue card that summons a kraken
@IzzysIssues
Жыл бұрын
I've been playing the Pokémon tcg lately and THAT is a game where decking yourself is too easy
@JustRightPinedo
Жыл бұрын
You may like cEDH games lol that’s half the sun cons. Nivv mizz does it well
@TheKillerman3333
Жыл бұрын
@@JustRightPinedo i have been working on one but it is still too slow, and is way too brittle, requiring infinite loops. i like mmore casual stuff.
@iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS
Жыл бұрын
My revised heavy played wheel of fortune with a nm face is my favorite card of my collection. The front is so clean it looks fresh kut the pack.
@geeknseek
Жыл бұрын
It's Wednesday my dudes
@danrichards9516
Жыл бұрын
Oh man back in the day Underworld Dreams, the power 9 and Library, duh, and a deck geared to wheel, twist, winds of changes storm seeker even. Before Force of Will it rocked.
@johnnyd1988
Жыл бұрын
Great list. I am curious where/if Windfall would fall onto the list if we went beyond the “exactly wheeling for 7” rule.
@specb211
Жыл бұрын
The best part is when he says library instead of liberry. Consummate professional broadcasting, my friend. 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟 🌟
@michaellee4276
Жыл бұрын
Timetwister is only part of the Power 9 because it allows you to play cards like Recall, Walk, and Lotus a second time and weaken the Restricted limitation. Otherwise it isn't any better than Wheel (a very big "otherwise").
@magicalgirlanime
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Timetwister actually had more than Wheel. Discarding vs shuffling is so much easier to turn into advantage and losing my graveyard kind of sucks. Maybe because blue is the best colour in a vacuum and red is the worst.
@Sauvenil
Жыл бұрын
Fate > Fortune IMHO... only because you don't have to tap anything for Fate when it goes off.
@shadewrecker9683
Жыл бұрын
Poor Timetwister. Part of the Power 9 but didn't get to be the name of its own effect like its sibling Time Walk did. I suppose true Wheels are discard and Timetwisters shuffle the graveyard but most people call them all Wheels.
@alaraplatt8104
Жыл бұрын
lol nice segue at the end there
@FrankFrankly711
Жыл бұрын
I like popping my Magus of the Jar on my turn to mimic the busted Jar
@heath1948
Жыл бұрын
Time twister is also probably the most proxied card in commander ever
@cocoquake
Жыл бұрын
But what if you could give Days Undoing flash…? 💫
@dizimalmtg455
Жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Have you or would you do a top ten competitive cards of all time?
@kh1129
Жыл бұрын
Why aren't they called Twister effects? Lawl.
@stigmaoftherose
Жыл бұрын
I always refer to them as separate effects so I just don't like this video much. It's very important when with your playgroup to tell them "wheel" or "time twist" and I only ever say wheel when I play an actual wheel effect.
@shuboy05
Жыл бұрын
On an interesting note the MTG Wiki states that players prefer to call it a Time Spiral effect even though Timetwister is the older card. I personally feel Twister or Time Twist should be the nickname since the older card should have precedence.
@shuboy05
Жыл бұрын
@@stigmaoftherose I believe Timetwister effects are considered a Subset of Wheel Effects. As in all Timetwister spells have Wheel effects (everyone discards their hand and draws seven new cards) but NOT ALL Wheel effects are Timetwisters (shuffle hands and graveyards back into the library and draw seven). That said I agree that Wheel and Time Twist could make for two different Top 10 videos.
@chapmanandchapmanproductio974
Жыл бұрын
We’ll affects like a wagon wheel wheel Rego wheel perfect
@andresperez7476
Жыл бұрын
My wheels im driving is a toyota camry 😅😰😥
@UnqualifiedReviews
Жыл бұрын
Why were these named after wheel of fortune and not timetwister
@yeeisme
Жыл бұрын
Is Timetwister a Wheel and a Timetwister / Twister effect? Or does nobody call discarding, shuffling back cards and drawing cards a Timetwister / Twister effect?
@NizzahonMagic
Жыл бұрын
Generally, people just say wheel for all of them. You can make the distinction if you want to though, because they are different.
@chapmanandchapmanproductio974
Жыл бұрын
I don’t get why we are. The facts are good.
@OMGitshimitis
Жыл бұрын
What about a top 10 of all cards banned in all other formats and restricted in vintage? I think this could be fun as it's a really high power list and it'd be cool to see if all of the power 9 are on the list or if some of the other utterly broken cards beat them out.
@derHexenhammer
Жыл бұрын
You missed teferis puzzlebox and mindmoil.
@DJFracus
Жыл бұрын
they don't always draw 7
@PokeBattlerJaze
Жыл бұрын
Wheel of Fortune? Edit: Ah, I was close.
@chapmanandchapmanproductio974
Жыл бұрын
F CATDKINGDOM!!!!
@Milkybetrayal
Жыл бұрын
Wheelie awesome
@tobynburke4959
Жыл бұрын
Do windfall and winds of change really not count as wheels?
@NizzahonMagic
Жыл бұрын
Not to me. They are variable.
@BrotherAlpha
Жыл бұрын
I think you could remove Timetwister from the banned and restricted list in at least Vintage and Legacy and it wouldn't break the format. It's the damn combo pieces that are the problem. The rest of the Power Nine are cards that would be played in every deck that had the mana for them. Hell, the vast majority of decks would splash blue, just for the four copies of Time Walk and Ancestral Recall. Timetwister, on the other hand, would only be used in combo decks that really needed to refill their hands multiple times a turn to go off. There are some decks where it would make your deck much worse, if not unplayable.
@timsimon8665
Жыл бұрын
In a world with no restriction, 4 Timetwister + 4 Black Lotus is an insanely powerful engine. I'm dubious any deck would ever give up on that, combo deck or not. On the old Shandalar game, Time Walk would be the first one I'd ditch, not Timetwister because of just how crazy getting so many uses of Ancestral and Lotus is, to the point where you don't even need extra turns.
@BrotherAlpha
Жыл бұрын
@@timsimon8665 I played two decks on Arena with with Oracle of the Alpha in them. When it hits the battlefield, you shuffle one copy of each card of the Power Nine into your deck. I actually removed the card from one of those decks, because Timetwister HURT that deck. If your decks goal is to limit the resources your opponent has, then Timetwister is garbage. If your opponent's deck has more value per card, then Timetwister will hurt you more than it helps. None of the other Power Nine have a downside, outside of very small edge cases.
@patritchie1317
Жыл бұрын
🙂
@erlanddrow7950
Жыл бұрын
☸️
@charlesng553
Жыл бұрын
good job nizz! love this list
@gerudo4sale861
Жыл бұрын
You should hold a contest where the winner gets to choose the top 10 idea
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