Though Magic has been focusing more and more on commander lately, nothing can replicate 60 card constructed. This is the case for Pioneer, my favorite format of all time.
Crazy that this video came out a week before pioneer horizons: Lego Batman got announced
@tlee3205
Ай бұрын
Can't wait for my new printing of Siege Rhino with Rambi from Donkey Kong Country on it!
@spencerschmidt-rundell1612
23 күн бұрын
@@tlee3205 would genuinely buy that, huge Nintendo fan.
@stevendefeo8424
13 күн бұрын
What’s pioneer horizons?
@reviewchan9806
Ай бұрын
Play Pioneer because it's what modern was a decade ago in its golden years
@falkster4045
Ай бұрын
Im scared that as soon i get invested into pioneer, wizards is gonna announce pioneer horizons
@hermesthenerd9967
Ай бұрын
pioneer is my favorite 1v1 constructed format. im so happy my lgs has a great scene consistently getting between 16-24 people per week for the event. i play both meta decks and brews and always have a fun time. format is wide open and fun.
@suschilegge1683
6 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say the format is wide open with vamps, Amalia and phoenix comfortably sitting at the top since karlov, but I'm happy for you and your lgs, i Wish mine had as big of a pioneer fanbase :')
@DuraheLL
Ай бұрын
Ultimate way to magic is always cube draft
@swyssm3958
Ай бұрын
I honestly want to get more into Pioneer. Mostly because Siege Rhino, but the other stuff is also cool. The only thing making me hesitate are the lands. I'm a budget guy at heart, but even then, Siege Rhino's really cool
@neminem233
Ай бұрын
Really suprised to see a video like this on my timeline, even more surprised that it's really good and convincing I'm down to start playing some pioneer now
@Magno309
Ай бұрын
I started to build my very first Pioneer Deck (GWB Elves) because is starting to get really popular here in Mexico. My LGS started a league and the winners get a pass to national championship!
@Cedric1234_
Ай бұрын
High quality content, enjoyed it a lot.
@KebbieG
Ай бұрын
As someone that plays Siege Rhino a lot on my channel. I must subscribe just for that.
@etherchaos666
20 күн бұрын
My buddy and I started playing pioneer around the beginning of the year, and alternate between it and commander. You can even make some pretty good decks using Standard strategies as a start and improving on the land base. Land base is always the wallet killer, though. If you want to keep your high priced shock lands from wear and tear, though, make sure you encase them in glass, take a picture of your collection, and use sleeved proxies (of only cards you own, of course, using the pictures you took as proof.)
@oinkerbob2
Ай бұрын
I've been out of the game for several years until recently so I've wondered how people are going to play with the power ramp that's going on with all these Universes Beyond sets. I'm going to have to build a couple things with my older cards now! Thanks for the tip!
@whattupmang
Ай бұрын
Siege Rhino is my favorite card. I have a t shirt and a KZitem channel in support. You’ve earned a sub, sir.
@SolarTitanSC
24 күн бұрын
I'm so interested in this best card of all time list! Siege rhino is definitely a fun card to have in the deck.
@theguytoby1362
Ай бұрын
It's sad Pioneer never got some wind under its wings as you have stated. I had been back on Magic around 2017/18 and started playing FNMs at my Store which were only Draft or Commander. When i heared a new constructed format was to be announced, I rejoiced as I wanted to get into the eternal constructed formats, but wasn't willing to sell my organs to get a meta deck for Modern. But when Covid hit and the in person scene with it, I just started to draft on Arena and later started to build Standard decks with the cards I had. I never had MTGO and Arena didn't support Pioneer, so I never got to play it. When in person play picked up again the scene in my area was ravaged. Many Players just stopped playing Magic all together as it's an expensive hobby and hard to rectify if you happen upon hard times and some had just formed their private groups with their friends and played there so the FNMs that before covid had attendances of 20+ people struggled to get to 8 and the tournament sceene was the same. I've moved since then and at least now I can get some games in at local Stores. Already attended some RCQs and an Eternal Weekend, but every time other formats are played at the same event you realise that there aren't that many Pioneer players. I hope that, when wizards gets around to it someday, when Pioneer is on Arena more people will flock to it and realise that it's a good format. I just hope they don't print Pioneer Horizons anytime soon.
@alexnunes6389
Ай бұрын
Explorer in Arena is a good way to play most pioneer decks since it has a pretty similar card pool
@theguytoby1362
Ай бұрын
@@alexnunes6389 Well, i want the whole thing to be there, cant really play any bring to light Decks and even the Engmatic Decks cant really be played since some of the key cards are missing. Also cant play Lotus Field since hidden Strings is missing. And some other cards that are just interesting for experimentation and creative deck building are also missing
@SrGundisalvus
Ай бұрын
I was just considering starting to get into pioneer since I like non rotating traditional 60 cards formats and as a fellow midrange connoisseur I'll be waiting for the siege rhino deck upgrades also I really like standard but it's totally true that almost no one plays it and it's also surprisingly expensive to make a competitive deck (that will remain in the meta for... in between 3 months to 2 years)
@LessAlex
29 күн бұрын
absolutely agree Pioneer is amazing! great video.
@byronsmothers8064
Ай бұрын
I own a black-green zombie deck that's format legal just to own, haven't gotten the chance to see how good it actually is, but I like it!
@TheNewMaxico
Ай бұрын
i also run siege rhino, also in my abzan midrange deck, also in pioneer. props to you man
@johndombeck955
11 күн бұрын
I personally think having different block based formats from older sets (and then for more recent ones) is a better option. Or some rotating combination of old and new sets. Even better would be 60 card two-headed giant and/or other multi-player formats, where different older and newer sets can be used. Commander is popular because you can potentially use (virtually) all the cards ever made and that you may own or can purchase, and because the multi-player format makes it much more difficult for one or two particular deck(s) to be "the best" and adding move variety/fun in play, not to mention more social interaction. Pioneer only appeals to a very small slice of players, those who aren't very new (have cards that have rotated out of standard) but also haven't been playing very long (don't own too many cards that are older than Pioneer). That's an extremely small niche.
@nicolasgaona4264
Ай бұрын
As a fellow Siege Rhino enjoyer I shall subscribe to such a wonderful youtube channel.
@Zerschnitzler77
Ай бұрын
played an rcq recently and everyone was cheating creatures into play. rakdos vampires 2x, bring to light 1x, bant lotus fiel control with emrakul 1x
@JimFaindel
Ай бұрын
As someone who got into the game at around the time Arena came in, I feel far more partial to Explorer, but I can see those who stuck around from earlier times loving Pioneer
@tlee3205
Ай бұрын
In all honesty they're basically the same format, by the time Wizards adds this new Pioneer expansion later this year they'll probably be pretty indistinguishable.
@feeltheheat
Ай бұрын
Pioneer was a great idea that should have been released earlier than it was, it would have had a deck that can easily or possibly rotate from standard to pioneer, just rotate a few cards after the deck is no longer able to be played in standard, then tweak it up with the larger range of pioneer accessible cards. Or even vise versa if want/need be.
@jaafarmhasan8713
26 күн бұрын
We need a format like old modern .
@edde2429
Ай бұрын
I like Pioneer existing as a format but to me it just seems very tame. Basically Standard without rotation. I really enjoy things like blood moon and other land disruption, I like recurring things like fetches with loam or brought back.
@matthewvandyk7773
25 күн бұрын
If pioneer included Lwyorn and Shadowmere I'd be highly interested. I just want to play my Treefolk with Doran.
@AzurielMist
Ай бұрын
Some good points, some that I don't agree with also. Format is a fun one, It is varied per se, but if you're playing RCQ's and competitive events, then there are gatekeeping decks, such as lotus field that are essentially "Disrupt, hate or race me or lose on turn X". A very combo heavy format.
@felipevaras4741
Ай бұрын
I'd like to see new Challenger decks for this format, but well constructed, meaning, with full ps of significant cards.
@watshesaid
Ай бұрын
I just clicked on this because of siege rhino. I love this video
@alexeggers3170
Ай бұрын
Drop that siege rhino list! I need to know, it’s the greatest magic card of all time!
@TheDanteBoots
Ай бұрын
Only thing that sucks about constructed formats is needing playsets, I'd surmise that's the main turn off. I own 10 pioneer decks myself but I always cringe when I need to pick up a new playset. I don't have this reaction with commander.
@tlee3205
Ай бұрын
I personally love playing with playsets compared to singleton, but I can't deny buying an expensive playset is a pain.
@avatarofcloud
Ай бұрын
When you've built your 20th janky commander deck and suddenly realize you have many many playsets, the cringe will wear off for commander players.
@TheDanteBoots
Ай бұрын
@@avatarofcloud I don't buy more than one copy when it comes to commander though, I just moved my expensive pieces from deck to deck.
@cornmaized
Ай бұрын
if i get to run siege rhino in a format again im in!
@ColeTrainStudio
Ай бұрын
The problem with pioneer is how uninteractive it is compared to things like legacy or pauper. But it is certainly better than EDH or standard.
@ericsoloconc
Ай бұрын
Why do you consider that is an uninteractive format?
@brendanhansen8494
Ай бұрын
Can we get this Abzan midrange list?? I’m interesting in running it and throwing some people off
@kadinnui2282
22 күн бұрын
While it definitely is cheaper than the other eternal formats it's still too expensive to have a good deck. I have just looked at the Pioneer Challenger decks and my first thought was "nothing is really stopping them from including more than just one shockland".
@stonepatberg
Ай бұрын
I remember a decade ago watching a similar video about modern 😂
@Chantcg
Ай бұрын
I wish they would get going on pioneer for arena. They need to finish it up
@GhGh-gq8oo
25 күн бұрын
Izzet phoenix is $270 for the entire play set, has extremely high skill ceiling to the point where you pretty much can’t lose if played perfectly.
@ClearAutumnFestival
Ай бұрын
I think ill pass on the amalia spam
@munen-muso
Ай бұрын
It seems like WOTC is trying to make both Modern and Commander into rotating formats with the never-ending supply of new cards with high power-creep.
@itze_
Ай бұрын
I am a defender of black in silver pioneer as the ultimate cheap competitive format
@MrCraftingchannel
Ай бұрын
I miss 60 card MTG a lot. I'm trying to get into pauper and pioneer rn. But my unemployed, broke college student ass doesn't even have money for pauper so yeah, fuck
@tlee3205
Ай бұрын
I've got a pretty workable sliver deck in pauper for about $10, you can get those prices down a ton if you're on a budget.
@Rabidconscience
Ай бұрын
1:24 yeah there is a big push to play the format that’s getting all the shiny new cards. Commander. “modern horizons” having commander cards that aren’t legal in modern is just so brazen of wotc. 😊
@wiimotecactus3124
Ай бұрын
i love mt jund pioneer deck
@Smesh_U
29 күн бұрын
Siege Rhino 🥲
@joshua_lee732
Ай бұрын
There's a pioneer deck that plays Siege Rhino?
@yoyoguy1st
Ай бұрын
I know enigmatic incarnation played a copy but I don't think they do that anymore
@user-th9gj4xg8j
11 күн бұрын
Why I will play pauper: 1. I have no money 2. I love exhume
@Gaming_Antics
Ай бұрын
You should only play drafts, seal, and commander, because everything else is too expensive including pauper.
@DesArthes
Ай бұрын
I will copy whole your deck, but instead of the Siege rhino i will put in Sheoldred instead and beat you with that deck :D
@MomoTrev
Ай бұрын
I'm here for the Siege Rhino propaganda
@Izelor
Ай бұрын
Premodern is the best Magic, but Pioneer is decent. Much better than Modern has been ever since the Horizons sets and way more interesting than Legacy at this point.
@Exalted_Example
Ай бұрын
"is it fun?" you playing rakdos? if not it's probably not fun.
@brian742
22 күн бұрын
I disagree on Pioneer being fun. I know it is subjective, but here is why i do not enjoy it. Pioneer is centered around linear decks aiming to cheat mana costs or combo turn 3/4. If you want a game of MtG with relevant decision making, Pioneer will not give it to you. Nearly every relevant matchup will boil down to stopping an obvious thing or a play pattern akin to a goldfish: stop sorin, stop amalia (lol), stop emergent ultimatum, stop quintorious, or jam my elf, jam any of the above combos.
@julius6817
Ай бұрын
Yeah no, after the insane power creep in commander during the last few years I’ve had enough of eternal formats. Standard is King as it should be. I am actually so happy about rotation getting rid of old cards and keeping the format fresh. You can never have that with eternal formats.
@DoomStarRequiem
4 күн бұрын
Edh is fun but it's taken over my local gaming scene and the new players only know edh, it kinda sucks. The new universes beyond stuff is just horrible. Modern is just total dumpster fire. We had our short pioneer phase but the kids just can't escape the edh bs. Going to tabletop Wargaming and quitting mtg was the best decision I did .
@FacilitaFisica
Ай бұрын
Until it got more people hooked and wizards make a PIONNER HORIZONS, witch fetchlands or whatever they want.. and your eternal format.. rotates every 2 years.
@winnipeg316
26 күн бұрын
Pioneer is boring AF
@wiktorwitkowski8689
Ай бұрын
If you want to stick to tardicional magic estetic the only format that has it, is pre modern. I have no idea why you are talking about pioneer if you are looking for traditional magic estetics. Pioneer doesn't offer what you are looking for.
@wiktorwitkowski8689
Ай бұрын
It's a boring format! Play some explorer on Arena, it's basicly the same format. The best format is pre modern, in my opinion.
@CrunchBar-qe5fw
Ай бұрын
Yeah, you almost had me until you had that weird tangent about UB being bad because somehow the crappy lore is so precious that it's "jarring" when you see Bilbo in a format.
@MisterJ355
Ай бұрын
Pioneer is a waste of oxygen and resources that could be better put to use to a superior format. Like COMMANDER
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