Be sure to check out the Tank Encyclopedia magazine on Payhip: payhip.com/TankEncyclopedia Sorry if you notice any audio differences in the video I had to make some changes after a mistake was noticed in the script and some additional info was added. Hope you enjoy regardless.
@jackbomb9919
3 жыл бұрын
Did u know little willy (the prototype of the mk1) was originally going to have a rotating turret in the centre but was switched to make it easier to cross trenches and unditch the tank
@ivanmonahhov2314
3 жыл бұрын
Add all the insane T-100 variant of which only SU-100Y was built. Like single turreted variant with armaments ranging from 76mm , 130mm , 152mm , 203mm
@mikepette4422
3 жыл бұрын
great mag
@quentinmyself
3 жыл бұрын
Sad but the only successful multi-turreted tanks are... those in video games, like the Mamoth tank from the Command & Conquer series. But damn is it cool and imposing !
@TheArklyte
3 жыл бұрын
One correction - soviets DIDN'T get plans for Independent. They saw it, but it was too pricy and Medium III wasn't ready yet so they bought different tanks. T-28 and T-35 are indeed based on Independent design schematics, but not because soviets stole them. Kama tank school! Rheinmetall and Krupp Grosstractor prototypes were tested there and they are copied from Independent. Soviets had gotten the plans to those by virtue of guarding it(the irony is here, but mostly guarding the secret of its existence) and helping to maintain it. So when Weimar Republic caught an aneurism called fascism, all military cooperation was cancelled and tanks were hastily returned to Germany. Soviets didn't like the deal breaking and their engineers were good enough to basically copy the design in a few last weeks it was there. You can see it clearly in suspension system design as it has some features of Grosstractor that Independent hadn't or had in different fashion. And after that soviets had the plans and we're basically left with the question "what next?". Well, some blokes were to Britain a few years back and saw this cool tank. Why don't we make one like that with Grosstractor plans? And they did. Ironically going back to the original bloodline of "german" vehicle. Myth that soviets stole British plans is mostly propagated by wehraboos, who 1)don't like people mentioning that Grosstractor and thus Neubahfarzeug and by extent PzKw.IV have british roots; 2)want to claim that soviets were morally worse at every turn(despite this being the only true success of german intelligence service and you undermine it by such claims. Maybe because it was an example of Weimar Republic success); 3)simply don't know that soviets officially showed up and were buying tanks and licenses left and right in UK. If timeline was a bit different, they would have just bought Independent(or rather Medium Mk.III).
@williamchamberlain2263
3 жыл бұрын
When you _really_ want an armoured train, but you haven't got enough steel to lay the tracks.
@p-5199
3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@imicz6409
3 жыл бұрын
Good job :D
@allangibson2408
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with trains is you have to lay tracks first. So when you automate laying tracks…
@TheFirstVonGunther
3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, the Finns used an armored train to fortify parts of their lines in the Winter War.
@lindaterrell5535
3 жыл бұрын
Cuz you used all the steel up on the tank.
@6thsavage
3 жыл бұрын
These multi-turret tanks are the armored vehicle realization of duel-wielding, faults and all. Turrets akimbo.
@pizzadog7575
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like if ur are duel weilding pistols how are u meant to man the tank with non of your hands available?
@arya31ful
3 жыл бұрын
So T-35 is equivalent to holding weapons with all of your limbs.
@aarosundvall
3 жыл бұрын
VT1-2 are literally dual wielding cannons tho
@cowgoesmoo3850
3 жыл бұрын
@@arya31ful imagine holding two pistols with your hands BUT also holding two with your feet and one in your mouth lol.
@josiahricafrente585
3 жыл бұрын
*L A N D B A T T L E S H I P*
@belltowersubductions5104
3 жыл бұрын
I don't care what "logic", or "Common sense" or "The laws of physics" have to say about it, Multi-turreted tanks are cool.
@ballsacsincorp
2 жыл бұрын
its the supertank from word conqueror 4
@SerAkel
3 жыл бұрын
The Finns have many photographs of the SMK in war archives and there was an attempt of salvaging the SMK fromm its stuck position. However, as one can easily deduce, Finns had practically zero experience with land vehicles as heavy as this one and there were no capable vehicles to tow SMK, as horses just wouldn't do. Finns did take notes on the SMK, apparently misidentifying it as a possibly modified T-35, which is no surprise as who would send a classified prototype to the front? Germans later bought Finnish intel on Soviet equipment and combat capability and the mistaken identity of T-35 lived on in early 1941 Soviet tank identification infogramsof Germany.
@zeroyuki92
2 жыл бұрын
That second paragraph is so funny lol, like "There's no way they sent sikrit weapons to our strongest stronghold with little to no backup, it must be just T-35 with engineers being creative in field modifications"
@albertlantin6833
3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: It needs more turrets. Designer: It will be too heavy, secretary general. Stalin: Gulag? Designer: Just like I said, it needs more turrets.
@BenedictF79B
3 жыл бұрын
KV-6 *["how does it even Will turn?!"]* Stalin:"you don't,it Will go straight to Berlin"
@worldoftancraft
3 жыл бұрын
ыыыы ГУЛаг ыыыыы ЫыыыЫЫы Ы ЫыыЫЫЫ ЫыЫЫыы *sound of a dropping of a spit drop*
@Marinealver
3 жыл бұрын
Stalin: Okay more turrets was a bad idea. Just give it a bigger gun. Designer: How Big? Stalin: Yes
@worldoftancraft
3 жыл бұрын
@@Marinealver ыыыы Сталин ыыыы
@moldyheracles
3 жыл бұрын
@@BenedictF79B engrish
@markovainola9318
3 жыл бұрын
Werent those both destroyed by Finns in the winter war? Theres an interview of a finnish veteran in youtube and in that he said a tank as large as a house came at him, all he could do was to take cover in his foxhole... The tank stopped right on top of him and he could hear the crew inside laughing... "only had a rifle sso what on earth can you do?" "Nauroovat perkele!!!"
@ConeOfArc
3 жыл бұрын
For one thing, especially at that point, just about any tank would have seemed massive to a soldier on the battlefield. The Soviets also tested a number of tanks like the KV-2 in Finland so that description is a but vague and could have applied to any of them even a T-28
@Joshua_N-A
3 жыл бұрын
So, this is where Imperium of Man get their tank designs.
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
Yup: everything else is an m-113.
@lordcaptainteapot6143
3 жыл бұрын
Who needs crew cooperation when you have more dakka )))))))
@Joshua_N-A
3 жыл бұрын
Now paint the ammo yellow for maximum boom.
@dem0nchild610
3 жыл бұрын
I have a captured m39 from the winter war that actually saw combat in the defense of Finland its amazing to own a peice of history like that. I would love to go see the su100y the SAP ammunition must be massive for that thing
@buckberthod5007
2 жыл бұрын
What exactly is the requirements to own a tank in Finland?
@spugelo359
2 жыл бұрын
@@buckberthod5007 Pretty sure that the weapons are non functional, would be one of them.
@thatdude3938
2 жыл бұрын
@@spugelo359 M39 Finnish Mosin, can buy in USA
@tehfinlandperson1376
9 ай бұрын
Photo of smk at 8:25 is also mentioned as T-28 in a finnish book called "Sodan viisi vuotta" since it had never been seen before
@Getoffmycloud53
3 жыл бұрын
If private companies in the West work on different designs for the same specifications it is called competition, if state controlled design bureau’s do the same it is called convoluted….sure makes sense.
@ratulxy
Жыл бұрын
Haha, true
@raycearcher5794
3 жыл бұрын
"Oh no, I'm not going out there without one of those big metal things, goes up-and-a-down, up-and-a-down." "Tanks." "You're welcome!"
@darknut9696
3 жыл бұрын
the SMK in war tinder was a best buy for me coz people didn't know where to shoot it
@goomba0072
3 жыл бұрын
i wish i could say that about T-35 (my experience) but i still do 6-9 kills in it. probably because it has a lot of crew and (imo) 2 fantastic guns at its br(the 47mm guns)
@potato8606
3 жыл бұрын
W a r t i n d e r
@bluesky_cupy5158
3 жыл бұрын
@@potato8606 date gamers 😎👍
@Kalashnikov413
3 жыл бұрын
@@bluesky_cupy5158 war thunder but for dating
@jerdasaurusrex557
3 жыл бұрын
Now we have remote weapon mounts. We've come full circle.
@reform-revolution
3 жыл бұрын
it might actually be somewhat practical ...... but still not combat viable as aircraft and missiles would decimate it
@jerdasaurusrex557
3 жыл бұрын
@@reform-revolution I don't follow? All I mean is multiple turrets concept are making a comeback to some extent. Having a secondary weapon that can rotate and aim independently without exposing the user sound pretty handy.
@reform-revolution
3 жыл бұрын
@@jerdasaurusrex557 i thought you were referring to the ability to have multi turrets now that we can communicate and use them without needed a million men in a single vehicle and the ability to talk remotely
@jerdasaurusrex557
3 жыл бұрын
@@reform-revolution Yes that's what I mean. So how is being vulnerable to aircraft and missiles a problem. Current MBTs still have those weaknesses.
@reform-revolution
3 жыл бұрын
@@jerdasaurusrex557 it would be larger and being heavier then an MBT meaning slow and ungainly in the field ........most bombs and missiles while not as inaccurate as WW2 munitions still arent accurate enough to hit a tank dead on at speed or while in cover while something large enough to have several turrets would be slow immobile and hard to quickly change course until we develop a way to stop missiles, rockets and bombs that can be placed on a tank without hindering it larger tanks like that arent very useful and given the current state of wars (small scale and fairly low intensity) not really a need for these landships which is kinda lame cause landships are awesome looking and awe inspiring in every media they appear in (seriously look up the Big Tray battleship its a beast)
@benb9151
2 жыл бұрын
Many random guy's girlfriends: "Why isn't he texting back, wtf is he doing?" He's probably watching endless videos about 20th century military vehicles
@a.h.1358
2 жыл бұрын
The ‘100’ in the designation refers to the number of weapons it has.
@od1452
3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I've read about these two tanks for years but you have the most complete story yet. Great research . The French and early Russian tanks get beat up by historians but they were the only countries to produce numbers of these huge tanks. One wonders if metallurgy and engine/mechanical technology was at a more advanced level at the time , could these tanks have fared better.? I suggest you do a video about the T220 that was refitted with a KV1 turret and fought at Leningrad. It is mythic but real . ( the original turret was supposedly used as a casement to protect the Leningrad tank factory)
@kon27027
3 жыл бұрын
The design is not that "cursed", it is more of a problem of that era in tank development in general. The multi-turret design was basically because in that era (early 1930s) they had no "gun unification" but there was a recognized need to have tanks with infantry support gun (you need shells with high HE, hence bigger calibre) and smaller but high-velocity gun for AT duty (45mm). So you can either put them on separate tanks (like German original concept of Pz III and Pz.IV) or try to put them together on one tank. Both variants have their own pros and cons. Like, in the first concept you have two very specialised tank that will require tactical and operational mastery to utilise to full effect. (Or you can put both guns in one turret, side-by-side, this design has its own flaws). In the end they finally made high-velocity 76mm that could take both roles was made and real need for multi-turret tank was lost. (Yeah, and the Winter War shown that ACTUALLY, 76mm HE was still not enough for fortification, which gave birth to KV-2 (and much later, SU/ISU-152). But still, by design inertia, they tried to put it (76mm L-11 in this case) in SMK/T-100. Combat experience - too heavy + no real need for 45mm at that point. Took the turret for 45mm off, problem solved, KV-1 is born. Very good tank. Leningrad Works actually built KV prototype on pure enthusiasm, the Army had no interest in single-turret heavy tank (the generals were more conservative in the understanding of heavy tank role), but the engineers already had the feeling that multi-turret tanks are the thing of the past - and in the end they were proven right. P.S. General Pavlov lost much more than a single SMK to Finns. He made his way up to the Commander of the Western Front, but his front was the least prepared for German invasion (unlike Zhukov, for example), and suffered total collapse during the early days of Barbarossa. For this transgression he was tried and sentenced to death. To be honest, I think that this execution was kinda justified.
@wot1fan885
3 жыл бұрын
Didnt know the t 100 became the su 100y but i did recognize the back part of the t100 as seen before. Oh yea its the shape of the su 100y . Thanks great video .
@Niinsa62
3 жыл бұрын
About 40 seconds into the video it is said that the Renault FT was revolutionary (pun intended) because it had one gun in a rotating turret that gave the gunner a 360 degree view. Well, if you add more turrets, they are going to block each other's view. So you are back to the original British Mk. 1 tank, with up to five guns/machine guns, each with a limited view. What were they thinking...
@raznaak
3 жыл бұрын
The problem was that they put the turrets side by side. If they stacked them on top of each others, they wouldn't hinder the ark of the others!!!
@omalley854
3 жыл бұрын
Engineer: How many turrets would you like on your tank? Stalin: yes
@b.blokzijl1189
3 жыл бұрын
So cool to know where the su 100 was built on!!
@robertharris6092
3 жыл бұрын
I find it hilarious how much armor they thought a tank would need on imterwar tanks.
@JefeInquisidorGOW
3 жыл бұрын
Tank vs tank combat was uncommon in the 30s
@DzinkyDzink
3 жыл бұрын
@@JefeInquisidorGOW while 37mm guns were omnipresent.
@JefeInquisidorGOW
3 жыл бұрын
@@DzinkyDzink A gun that was obsolete a couple years after it's introduction, and couldn't penetrate soviet armor over 100m distance...
@pouncepounce7417
3 жыл бұрын
the finns killed most tanks by sneaking up and throwing molotov cocktail onto the engine compartment. So basical, zero armor.
@robertharris6092
3 жыл бұрын
@@JefeInquisidorGOW but this tank being as slow as it is. Isnt going to get a chance to avoid any enemy tank or gun fire. So it needs to be priperly armored to be nigh immune to it. Not have just barely enough armor to prote t from the rounds of the day.
@HATECELL
Жыл бұрын
Aren't modern MBTs kinda multi turreted? Remotely operated MGs on the turret are able to move independently from the main turret, and can engage a target whilst the main gun is engaging another one (it's not intended, but possible)
@PURE-BIAS
2 ай бұрын
FYI: thats not a KV-1 hull but a SMK hull "Sergey mironovich kirov"
@addoun
2 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who thinks that Cone sounds a lot like Huggbees? Its uncanny!
@boqndimitrov8693
Жыл бұрын
When you combine outdated concepts with too much imagination, you get such strange things as multi-turret tanks. I would definitely like to see one with my own eyes!
@chaffysteam4128
3 жыл бұрын
Hey cone great video. I have a question about another project. That is double and triple barrel tanks. World of tanks added them a while back.
@redmilitia117
3 жыл бұрын
Yay you talk about my favorite platform and my favorite tank
@clouddog2393
2 жыл бұрын
They may have been failures but what fearsome and impressive looking beasts they were .
@joek6791
3 жыл бұрын
Hmm remote controlled gun stations operated by the commander demonstrate that this concept can work with the right tech
@laernulienlaernulienlaernu8953
2 жыл бұрын
"yes, the design looks great but what we really need is more turrets! The more, the better."
@brickbunny9686
3 жыл бұрын
One of the main problems with those old multi-turret designs is the absolute lack of any automated systems for loading munitions. When you need half or more of the crew dedicated to reloads, this fills the cabin with a lot of things to communicate out loud. In todays modern world, we have systems for automated loading and many other things, that can result in reducing the needed crew. Now days, it is far more plausible to operate a multi-turret tank effectively, with a crew that can focus only on combat while the automation handle the other works, like loading ammo into the guns. The only reason it isn't happening, is because the idea of multi-turret tanks have not been revisited with our new abilities, in order to even check to see if our new automated systems would help clear the chaos issue that existed with old, non-automated multi-turret tanks of the past.
@giano427
3 жыл бұрын
@5peciesunkn0wn
3 жыл бұрын
1:55 what is that adorable little one person tankette? :D
@danielboliva2731
3 жыл бұрын
I'm Brazilian, I really wanted you to make a video about the tank destroyer 6x6 ee17 sucuri(anaconda in inglish) which was a prototype produced by engesa, the same one that built the osorio, unfortunately it also had the same fate as the osorio
@rosendorodriguez9862
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on the kv-5
@naamadossantossilva4736
3 жыл бұрын
In the last Q&A Nicholas Moran said turrets would happen even if the FT didn't exist because tanks were imitating navy equipment. These are the best example of that.
@ConeOfArc
3 жыл бұрын
The FT is the origin of the technology for tanks which is why it was mentioned. Armored turrets have existed since the Monitor so obviously they would have made it to tanks eventually
@cloudy7937
7 ай бұрын
Basically the designers went "Why have 75mm and 45mm guns when you can have a single giant 75+45=120 (ish) mm gun?"
@crunchinmaster
2 жыл бұрын
instead of making the name of the T-100 SPG version "Su-100Y", how abou- oh yeah, i forgot that sukhoi also rebranded a T-34 chassis
@borfer9366
2 жыл бұрын
You're confusing. In tanks, does the word "SU" mean the word "Самоходная Установка" aka SU. in airplanes, the word "SU" from the creator's bureau is Suhoy. It just turned out to be an amazing coincidence when self-propelled installations and aircraft turned out to have the same name.
@danielboliva2731
3 жыл бұрын
lets go for another super interesting video
@Anon26535
2 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about the Soviet military, at least they wised up about the problems of over-built wonder weapons fairly early on and shifted focus to the T-34, a tank synonymous with cost effectiveness.
@jakeandfriends3554
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen images of a smk with a kv2 and the 45mms turret
@mutantlavalampderg412
3 жыл бұрын
SMK was fun in war thunder when i used to play
@klimatbluffen
3 жыл бұрын
It looks like they were trying to build warships that worked on land.
@lordblack998
3 жыл бұрын
what about the A38 Valiant?
@JonatasAdoM
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile ICBMs have multiple warheads inside them. We have to stop with this urge to keep stacking things!
@ilovepanzer3930
2 жыл бұрын
I expected to see the FCM F1 but hey Soviet works
@Wythyrl
2 жыл бұрын
How many turrets is to many turrets
@deeplorable2913
3 жыл бұрын
This tank was just misunderstood. Stop judging it.
@RemusKingOfRome
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, just like the Boulton Paul Defiant - misunderstood turreted fighter.
@richardthelionheart123
2 жыл бұрын
When real life SMK suck in war thunder its a good one if you know where and with what are you shooting
@curtisbrown547
3 жыл бұрын
I've started to notice that when you analyze why multi-turreted designs didn't work it seems to come down to the fact that the crews were inexperienced with them, or not trained well.. and the fact their engines weren't always the best. I feel like we learned the wrong lessons here, lol
@Hitomiogamiito
3 жыл бұрын
Box Tank! get the Box Tank!
@Anonymous-ss1kg
3 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough, maybe multi turreted designs would return in the future since tech is going quite far nowadays But then again, the same problems may arise since transmissions are something you can hardly work around and no matter the tech, weight is something to consider
@dominicvucic8654
3 жыл бұрын
And a commander can only focus on a few thinga at oncw
@sephiroaone-of-nine101
3 жыл бұрын
thankfully if we wanted to have multi-turreted tanks we have the better means to do so -
@DeliveryTank
3 жыл бұрын
If one turret ain't enough, slap more on. If there is too many turrets for the commander to handle, slap on more commanders. If that doesn't work, turn it into a naval gun carrier. If that doesn't work either, scrap it.
@thelongride_reborn5383
Жыл бұрын
Smk is really good in war thunder if you play it right
@Zarobien
3 жыл бұрын
I bet my countrymen where pissed off after discovering that it was too heavy to steal, after all that effort to disable it.
@ashes2diamond
Жыл бұрын
I bought this in War Thunder just to look badass. Instead I ended up leveling high enough that it wasn't practical to include it in my line up anymore. Big waste of dosh and only time I did spend dosh on the game.
@GermanShepherd1983
Жыл бұрын
Any tank can be easily knocked out by simply destroying the track
@zatrusofnietzche2281
Жыл бұрын
The "Funnies" , I'd have one 😁
@johnsatan117
2 жыл бұрын
1:14 You mean the HMS Independent
@TuckerPiper
3 жыл бұрын
Mendleev please
@ragnarokstravius2074
3 жыл бұрын
Any info on the T-28?
@The0Lorax
Жыл бұрын
To be fair the smk did a good job this sounds like the tactic weren't the right ones
@TheRiptaco
3 жыл бұрын
All of them designed to kill, except for the killdozer that is.
@joshuadoll9000
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing worse than invading Russia in the winter is messing with the Fins.
@arbysregionalmanager7032
3 жыл бұрын
When the snow starts speaking Finnish
@JenniferLove-i9f
8 күн бұрын
Maxwell Forges
@jamesmmusic5806
3 жыл бұрын
Kirov? Red Alert 2
@DocJerky
3 жыл бұрын
Approves in 40k
@Ansset0
3 жыл бұрын
It's like someone reads a Wikipedia page. No passion, no interest, no flare. Just make some money. I won't be coming back
@TanksEncyclopediaYT
3 жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! We hope you like our magazines and keep an eye on us for more!
@ghostwolfsniper1981
3 жыл бұрын
Le Fishe Au Ciocolate
@blurglehus7348
3 жыл бұрын
Le Fishe Au Ciocolate
@arbysregionalmanager7032
3 жыл бұрын
Le fishe Au Ciocolate
@ch4ri0t28
3 жыл бұрын
Le Fishe Au Ciocolate
@Aatell764
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff guys keep it up! Love tank history and schematics
@robertalaverdov8147
3 жыл бұрын
The tanks biggest failing was that it's machine spirit was not blessed by the Adeptus Mechanicus.
@alexejvecera6317
3 жыл бұрын
Needs more toaster's
@TommygunNG
3 жыл бұрын
God-Emperor had not set up the Imperium yet. Pity those people.
Imagine trying to evacuate out of the tank, you have to fighting for the exit with 28582 other comrades
@seanwilkinson8696
3 жыл бұрын
*a Russian tank crew member, deep within the labyrinthine Soviet innards, after an hour of much zigzagging and backtracking, finds a possible exit hatch, pops his head up, and finds himself...eye to eye with FDR in the Oval Office, emerging from a trap door built into the President's desktop. One pregnant pause later, and...* "Ah, bohze moi, I knew I should have taken that left turn at Vladivostok."
@Jowjoejoe
3 жыл бұрын
@@seanwilkinson8696 nice
@JefeInquisidorGOW
3 жыл бұрын
@@seanwilkinson8696 you should write a book
@tomf3150
3 жыл бұрын
@@seanwilkinson8696 When you're so lost even reality loses track of your position.
@ENCHANTMEN_
3 жыл бұрын
"Ah, so you're the new starboard gunner? Nice to meet you, I'll show you around!" "Where's the rest of the crew?" "Oh, them? They're having a party down at the pool on deck 14"
@deptusmechanikus7362
3 жыл бұрын
i heard they built a single turret version of these monsters just as an experiment, using freed weight to increase armor and it turned out to be the most practical design of all three later becoming KV-1 and starting the entire bloodline of soviet heavys
@cakeman7364
3 жыл бұрын
Is there more of this story, if so can you send me the link?
@mikepette4422
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is any chance that Cone actually says everything you just said here. Nah I'm sure he's too dumb to research that
@generalolivervonbismarck393
3 жыл бұрын
Cone actually mentions this in the video
@deptusmechanikus7362
3 жыл бұрын
@@generalolivervonbismarck393 i can see into the future as well as the past. my power has no limit anymore
@ivanvladimir0435
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikepette4422 ok
@JarOfDirt.
3 жыл бұрын
I think we need a cursed by design on the su-100Y now
@p-5199
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the SU 100Y is a box with a big gun lol
@apple222sickly
3 жыл бұрын
Basically it's a KV-2 but turretless and naval gun
@p-5199
3 жыл бұрын
@@apple222sickly yeah sounds about right
@fernandomarques5166
3 жыл бұрын
Episode finishes on the SU-100Y and immediatly gets to talk about the Pr. 7 class DDs
@therealhecatonchires
3 жыл бұрын
@@apple222sickly not exactly, they had different guns. Th SU-100Y has a 130 mm gun, while the KV-2 had a 152 mm gun.
@kringname5996
3 жыл бұрын
multi turreted and huge but with only up to 30mm of armor in most cases...
@RemusKingOfRome
3 жыл бұрын
Needed better design, angled spacial armour and 3 x 80mm turrets. :D
@Kalashnikov413
3 жыл бұрын
@@RemusKingOfRome would make it heavier
@RemusKingOfRome
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalashnikov413 yes of course, a single 80mm is always better than 3 x 50mm for example.
@demonetized3076
3 жыл бұрын
Hey my pfp is better
@dougsteel7414
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I honestly don't think people imagined tanks firing at each other. Which they quite clearly did almost immediately
@seanwilkinson8696
3 жыл бұрын
0:42 - "Henry, dear, come to the window and see this; it's so adorable. Junior's pretending to be a Dalek!"
@Zorro9129
3 жыл бұрын
>SMK >Actually does pretty well, withstanding multiple hits and leading the offensive >One turret gets knocked out, no problem because there's a second one >Finally disabled after intensive fire and a mine, which would knock out any other tank >"This doesn't work, tovarish"
@juggernaut7_
2 жыл бұрын
Howdy all, Devil’s advocate here. SMK was already fairly slow and heavy, and was only gonna get more obsolete. 2nd turret was meant to function as support, not backup, and its cons overall outweighed the pros. Strong and capable sometimes maybe, but still got knocked out by the Finns. You know, those guys from the small backwoods agricultural nation whose main anti-tank weapon was a glass bottle filled with petrol that had a couple matches strapped to it.
@celticlad5866
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking
@TheValentineEnemy
2 жыл бұрын
It was doing well, but not well enough it seems. Though cute the full crew managed to survive so it wasn't a death box. Though they would have surely failed against the Axis....such a large target with armor that quickly becomes weak...yeah, problematic.
@fusososososo3507
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't that bad, but the kv-1 was better
@bpz8175
Жыл бұрын
@@fusososososo3507 Yeah. Had the KV-1 prototype not been there in time for testing, we might've seen one of those go on to be produced at least in limited numbers. But if you have one tank that is A-grade (for its time and context) and one that is B-grade, why wouldn't you shelve the B-grade one? Especially when it's probably cheaper to build the A-grade anyway. But I disagree with the conclusion of this video. The SMK was evidently very successful, as its chassis went on to be used for the KV-1 which itself was later again extensively modified to support the IS-1 to -3. Same as how you can't really call the LT vz. 38/Pz 38(t) "failed" because it ended up serving a dozen different, much more useful roles.
@saymonek0
3 жыл бұрын
Soviet union in the '30s:"HAHAHA 5 TURRETS GO BRR" Swedish in 1960's: "What is turret?"
@germmanator
3 жыл бұрын
French in 1917: This is a turret!
@DeliveryTank
3 жыл бұрын
Germany in 1943-1945: what is reliability
@saymonek0
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryTank russians in 1942 - 1945: what is welding
@DeliveryTank
3 жыл бұрын
@@saymonek0 italy the entire war: what is not bolted armour
@user-Xx0xxxxx
3 жыл бұрын
@@DeliveryTank Australia when they sea a tractor: is this a tank
@LG123ABC
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, it was an idea worth trying. After all, it works on battleships!
@donjones4719
2 жыл бұрын
The biggest of these designs had me expecting a bridge with officers and a helmsman.
@JonatasAdoM
2 жыл бұрын
@@donjones4719 That's the Ratte.
@MatthewChenault
3 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes, the SU-100Y, otherwise known as “Box Tank.”
@DeliveryTank
3 жыл бұрын
tiger 1 is a box
@arbysregionalmanager7032
3 жыл бұрын
The naval Canon box tank
@SteamCheese1
3 жыл бұрын
Russian Death Fridge XD
@paveantelic7876
2 жыл бұрын
stalin's fridge
@user-bo1ej5im9t
3 жыл бұрын
They missed the chance to called Multi-turreted tanks a Tumor
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
A little too close to the truth?
@leopoldthedigger7062
3 жыл бұрын
Could we see the Australian Cruiser tanks 1,3 and 4 aka sentinel and thunderbolt
@italiancountryball865
3 жыл бұрын
AKA ÐĪ¢Ķ ŢĄŅĶ
@grafknives9544
3 жыл бұрын
And then USA came up with M3 Lee, which in a way IS a multi turret design.
@Paciat
3 жыл бұрын
That would make Stug a turreted tank.
@ivanvladimir0435
3 жыл бұрын
You mean multi gunned
@wilfdarr
3 жыл бұрын
Is the small one not a turret? It's not a sponson, I'd call it a turret...
@xt6wagon
3 жыл бұрын
Totally is multi turreted even if you discount the 75mm. 37mm turret had a MG turret for a cupola.
@nikkeri99
3 жыл бұрын
If the m3 lee is a multi turret tank is a weird guestion. Obivously the 75mm is a hull mounted gun, meaning it dosnt count as a turret. This leaves the 37mm gun and the commanders machinegun. You could count the machine gun as a turret, however you could also count it as a commanders machinegun which most often isnt counted as a turret in most mbt. You propably wouldnt call the m60 a multiturreted tank, or the amx-30/amx-40. Tbh i would say m3 lee isnt really a multiturret tank, as the mg is more of a cupola machinegun.
@paraklash8912
3 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the German E series, giving you an excuse to talk about the E100 and the other lesser versions
@iguanayt2740
3 жыл бұрын
He alr did
@SCP--fj2jr
3 жыл бұрын
"the tank was very slow.." shows the tank going as fast as that smol tonk.
@bigblue6917
3 жыл бұрын
Actually the British did consider adding a turret to its tanks in WW1 but it was decided against doing such as it meant the tank would not be able to use an unditching beam if it got stuck in the mud. The unditching beam was carried on two rails which ran across the top of the tank from front to back, one on either side of the tank. If the tank became stuck a hatch could be opened and the beam attached to the tracks on either side. Once attached the tank would be driven forward and the tracks would drag the beam underneath the tank and free free it from the mud. It was considered more important for a tank to do this then have a turret on the top blocking the unditching beam. The sponsons on either side of the tank could do most of what a turret could do and carried a much heavier calibre gun then the French tank.
@johndavies1090
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the original design for 'Little Willie' did include a turret; I think it was dispensed with in part because of the increased overall height making the vehicle more conspicuous. Our later 'Mediums', Mark's A, B and C had what could be regarded as a fixed turret carrying the armament; the Medium B also had sponsons in the hull sides.
@kauske
3 жыл бұрын
I have to wonder if the eventual introduction of fully automated vehicles and AI fire-directors if multi-turrets might make a comeback in future vehicles. If it's down to communication and cooperation issues, AI wouldn't have any such issues and could track and engage many separate targets with ease. I don't imagine multiple main guns, but things like PD machineguns that can independently engage infantry and missiles seem plausible.
@Poop-qz9yn
3 жыл бұрын
perhaps even something like a mini c-ram
@kauske
3 жыл бұрын
@@Poop-qz9yn I imagine if you could ditch the whole crew (perhaps minus one who's just there in case connection to command is lost to provide orders) you could fit a whole lot more weaponry into even the smaller tanks around too. Doubly so if you toss armour no longer needed to protect a 3-4 man crew. If you wanted to get really weird with your automated weapons, you could make the auto-CIWS not part of the tank, but it's own detachable automatons. Then you'd get the same benefit as a live crew that can disembark if necessary. I doubt AT teams hiding in structures would want to deal with something like DARPA's 'spot' carrying an LMG with an IR sensor that picks out human targets and automatically shoots them after crawling out of it's mount-point on some drone tank.
@Battleship009
3 жыл бұрын
Keith Laumer's Bolo say hello.
@xt6wagon
3 жыл бұрын
Not sure more crazy designs will, but I could see a main gun turret with a lighter autocannon coax and then a CIWS style turret ontop of that to deal with self defense. For really close defense reactive armor with self detonation ability seems more sensible than providing more holes in the hull to stick guns out of. Fixed grenade launcers are currently popular too and would make sense in the future too.
@freezedeve3119
3 жыл бұрын
i bet they put fast turning turret with high rate of fire so AI can spinbot everyone, no point to make slow things that can not beat humans on speed
@Geniusinventor
3 жыл бұрын
This tank is good bombing practice for beginners in war thunder lol 😆 It's so thick
@smokyblackeyes3615
3 жыл бұрын
same with maus.
@Cbrmkn98xs
3 жыл бұрын
@@smokyblackeyes3615 and E100
@Geniusinventor
3 жыл бұрын
And any big size tanks with no commo
@batuarganda728
3 жыл бұрын
Behemoth tank hull armour layout Me : Hey that seems quite respectable Turn out its the precursor to kv1 hull Me : Oh that explains why
@alexejvecera6317
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do the Churchill tanks and the HMS Warspite?
@gingergorilla695
3 жыл бұрын
All praise the greatest British tank, the Churchill!
@Kyle-gw6qp
3 жыл бұрын
Churchill isn't cursed!
@alexejvecera6317
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kyle-gw6qp o crap i posted this on the wrong channel
@Kyle-gw6qp
3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what it is, but the production value on this video seems much higher. Please keep doing whatever it is your doing.
@coloradostrong
3 жыл бұрын
_you're_ doing.
@kahlzun
3 жыл бұрын
a tank which becomes the focus point for enemy fire, but can survive it, does have a tactical usage: it effectively acts as armour for the other tanks in the brigade, even if its own guns are useless
@JustaGuy_Gaming
3 жыл бұрын
These failed designs are always interesting. Though some times the tanks failed for no reason of their own. Some times a better weapon was developed making their armor pointless. Or in a lot of cases wars ended before final production and it was out dated before a new war sprung up.
@AtheistPirate
3 жыл бұрын
Bob Semple tank: "Finally, a worthy opponent! Our battle will be legendary!"
@dominikhalovanic2818
3 жыл бұрын
Can you do german "New construction vehicle". Neubaufharzug
@albertlantin6833
3 жыл бұрын
I'm trying my very best to pronounce it.
@Kalashnikov413
3 жыл бұрын
@@albertlantin6833 Noebaufartsoeg
@albertlantin6833
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kalashnikov413 🤣😂🤣😂
@albertlantin6833
3 жыл бұрын
@A Velsen Got it. Thanks!
@onlineclothesshoppin
3 жыл бұрын
I collected model tanks when I was a kid but I have never seen anything like this if I did they would be a part of my collection - definitely
@StrakanDocrusReakal
2 жыл бұрын
I came up for a multi-turreted tank design for a game world i am planning, and it partially gets around the issue of command and communication by having someone who is a designated commander in each turret, and so the main commander only needs to tell them to hold thier fire or let loose and the each turrets crew takes care of itself, it's still not perfect, but it is a massive behemoth even compared to these multi-turret tanks, but i like it.
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