...I'm so used to Pushing Up Roses doing Murder She Wrote videos that I didn't even notice this wasn't posted by her until someone started talking.
@KevinGeeksOut
2 жыл бұрын
ha ha, thank you!
@stevemorganexperience7833
2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@pictureperfect3211
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@suavemsuavemente
2 жыл бұрын
Saaaame
@ZanneReid27
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@gregmoore5740
2 жыл бұрын
I remember my grandmother wouldn’t watch it if it wasn’t an “Angela Lansbury episode.”
@willow100cm
2 жыл бұрын
If I have other things to do, I don't watch "one of those weird episodes without Jessica Fletcher".
@lukacunningham342
3 ай бұрын
So did my mother!
@patrickdoherty4527
29 күн бұрын
Smart lady!
@jacobgross7950
7 күн бұрын
I'm like that now, too, since I can skip episodes.
@deedeegreen8338
2 жыл бұрын
I wish that there had been a spin off of Dennis Stanton, the cat burglar turned insurance agent. I Loved that character.
@thehouse2015
8 ай бұрын
I just saw that episode yesterday- I agree!!
@jacobgross7950
7 күн бұрын
I'm surprised he didn't since he had the most episodes out of all of these
@NickNadel
Жыл бұрын
RIP to the legendary Angela Lansbury
@kobrakitsch877
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to include the late great Australian actor Keith Michell as reformed jewel thief and roguish insurance claims investigator Dennis Stanton whose crime solving misadventures became the focus of several episodes in Murder She Wrote.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Good point, we didn't get into Dennis Stanton in this video because it wasn't a spin-off attempt. The character eventually became the go-to for season 7's bookends. It seemed like they didn't want to spin the character off into a separate show, but keep him to round out the season. We also didn't want the video to go too long or lose its focus. But I wish we'd included some video footnote.
@kobrakitsch877
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe Thank you for the nice reply. I personally found the late great Keith Michell as Dennis Stanton a very highly engaging and most entertaining scoundrel. He should have been rewarded with an EMMY nomination as Best Guest Actor In A Drama Series.
@philipmonihan8222
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe Fair enough. What about a video discussing the episodes where Jessica's supporting characters took the lead! You did allude to them at the start.
@davidaston5773
2 жыл бұрын
Yes that's IT! He was actually really good. Like a John Steed meets the Equalizer but softer and uses his wits than a gun.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidaston5773 Yes, it sounds like we should've carved out some time in this video to recognize Dennis Stanton.
@kawaiipusheenlovexoxo5352
2 жыл бұрын
I still watch Murder she wrote all the time 😅😅God I love JBF❤️
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
It's very comforting (for a show about murders)
@itl5196
2 жыл бұрын
I started watching with my Grandpa at 8 years old. I’m 29 and I have every piece of apparel and accessory you can think of hahaha. Even a bangle that says “What would Jessica Fletcher do?” I stll watch on Peacock, but I also own all 12 seasons in collectors edition. This series is timeless & is the best show of all time!
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
@@itl5196 That's awesome. I loved going back to watch these episodes. It's so much fun to revisit. Even the bookend episodes.
@moniettebondu1195
2 жыл бұрын
Me too! No cable right now! Been re-watching same ONE free on one on KZitem!😂 Thank God Columbo on Tubi!🙏😅 #Angelien😇👽
@kawaiipusheenlovexoxo5352
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe I know right 😂😂😂but JBF is the best 👏🏽😅
@jeremyusreevu237
2 жыл бұрын
I think a better idea is to have all these backdoor Pilots as an anthology series, with Miss Fletcher telling these stories.
@marinadeoudes8082
2 жыл бұрын
LOVE this idea!
@fantastopotomus
2 жыл бұрын
I used to watch this with my grandma ALL THE TIME (may she rest in peace) and I thought then what I still think to this day: there is something endearing about ordinary people trying to do what's right, even more so when it's a nosey old lady who just means well lol
@sw9618
2 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, the magic of MSW was Angela as JBF. Spin-offs couldn’t survive bc she wasn’t in it. The plot was centered around her. Episodes of MSW where Jessica is only in the beginning to narrate a mystery got lower ratings.
@kelsey1467
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like her friends could hold their own spinoff
@sw9618
2 жыл бұрын
@@kelsey1467 which ones specifically?
@kelsey1467
2 жыл бұрын
@@sw9618 michel haggerty and dennis stanton
@sw9618
2 жыл бұрын
@@kelsey1467 Dennis -- tried and failed spin-off wise. And Len Cariou wasn't interested in a spin-off, I think I read that.
@kelsey1467
2 жыл бұрын
@@sw9618 Can I ask an honest question I know the network kind of screwed them over by moving nights but was 12 seasons enough or should there have been more cause im kind of paticular about that is less more sometimes and also what did you think of jessicas move to new york in season 8 I liked seeing her move up in the world I heard some people didnt like it I didn't mind and its not like she did not go to new york a lot before
@markstevens9249
2 жыл бұрын
My mother and I watched "The Grand Old Lady" episode the night it aired and we picked up on the Ellery Queen parallels right of the bat.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! We didn't get into it in the episode but once I saw a few episodes of Ellery Queen it was very clear who was who. Including Robert Vaughn as the John Hillerman character. (Still, a pretty fun episode. I like Gary Kroeger)
@janellestoermer5479
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Denis Stanton episodes. Those were my favorites. There were a few in Season 6, and several in Season 7. I think that could have stood as it's own series quite well.
@HOGuru
2 жыл бұрын
That's a different situation because the network actually did buy a Dennis spin-off, and they filmed 6 episodes - but they never put it on the schedule, and the episodes were just aired as murder, she wrotes.
@henrikechers9995
2 жыл бұрын
They should have given her nephew Brady a series. Loved his goofyness and charm
@cowabungadoug
2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was Grady, and yes his charm was welcome addition to Jessica's essential supporting cast along with Seth and Mort, or Amos.
@jrasicmark1
2 жыл бұрын
@@cowabungadoug Imagine if it had been Brady-- who was living all alone with his three sons, but ended up marrying one of Charlie Townsend's blonde detectives (who had three girls of her own), and they went around solving crimes with their six kids and dog! Genius!
@SunshineCatwoman
2 жыл бұрын
You lost me at 30 seconds in with the whole "pushing 60" and "imagine the demands that would place on a senior citizen" crap. She was 89 when she performed the role of Daisy from "Driving Miss Daisy" on "Great Performances," and she was 92 when she played Aunt March on the TV mini-series of "Little Women" in 2017. And she's still going strong today! Hollywood also has a habit of casting 20- and 30-something women as the wives of 40-something and older men, which is extremely irritating, not to mention unrealistic. The only time I know of that they did the reverse was when they cast Sherman Hemsley as George Jefferson, and Isabel Sanford as his wife, Louise. She was 20 years older than him.
@alyzu4755
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It's SO irritating to constantly see women cast as the love interests opposite men who are a lot older. And you're so right; Angela Lansbury is a force of nature. 🥰
@kathykrisko3228
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm 60, and I was like, "Eh?"
@gloomdoll
2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That rubbed me the wrong way as well, one of the highlights of Murder She Wrote was the fact that she was always traveling, writing, meeting people and just being a badass. . There are teenagers who don't have half of the charm/energy that this woman had during any of her projects, age is irrelevant.
@TokyoXtreme
2 жыл бұрын
@@alyzu4755 that’s realistic though
@kathleenking47
2 жыл бұрын
60 isn't old...now... Back then, I think, the 2nd gand smoke DEPRESSION/WW2 and other things made them looked older
@pushinguproses
3 ай бұрын
This was great! I am so glad someone did a video on this. Also can’t believe Bill Maher was in another MSW episode other than the witch one. I don’t even remember watching it. I do love me some Harry McGraw though.
@atomicabe
3 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm a fan of your channel and your MSW videos. Thanks so much for watching and leaving a note. You made my day @Pushinguproses !
@endtimeslastdays7777
2 жыл бұрын
Now, "Murder according to Maggie" was funny! I would have loved to see this turned into a TV show, I loved this episode! I loved when Harry McGraw was on Murder she wrote, He was funny! I loved the show, The Law and Harry McGraw too!!
@da96103
2 жыл бұрын
I just remembered one Murder She Wrote title called: When it is Beverly, it is Thursday.
@hilary3219
6 ай бұрын
Not quite it's: If It's Thursday, It Must Be Beverly
@MrLourie
2 жыл бұрын
Seven failed pilots from one series? This is got to be a record. I'm a fan of 'Murder, She Wrote' and having watched all the episodes, including the ones mentioned above, I never once thought to myself that I'd like to watch any of them as a series. Jess was the only detective, besides "Columbo', that I'd watched regularly. Only thing is, why was she herself never a suspect when her friends and acquaintances would wind up murdered everywhere she went around the world.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
I think THE FACTS OF LIFE might be tied. DIAGNOSIS: MURDER had a lot, too.
@marinadeoudes8082
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I wonder that every time I watch an episode! There was a theory I read that suggested every episode was how Jessica would have spun the murders to throw suspicion off of her.
@robertcringle4865
2 жыл бұрын
I loved the Ellery Queen mystery slow. It was a great mystery that challenged the viewer to solve it. Great cast and supporting cast.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
I just watched the series for the first time as part of research for this video. I enjoyed ELLERY QUEEN and you can see how it shaped MURDER, SHE WROTE. Also, you can see who's based on who in MSW backdoor pilot episode.
@martyhall3922
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Ellery Queen was very underrated
@PecanSandees23
2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Orbach, "the dad from Dirty Dancing"??? No, Jerry Orbach: Lenny Briscoe from Law & Order for 13 years. Everybody knows him from Law & Order.
@JayTemple
2 жыл бұрын
Now they do.
@annbsirius1703
2 жыл бұрын
Well he did say at the end that he would go on to do another crime show and did the L&O sound effect.
@robertlongman7298
2 жыл бұрын
Jerry Orbach, Broadway superstar, *almost* (not quite, for him or anyone else) as big a one as Angela Lansbury herself. "The Fantasticks", "Promises, Promises", "42nd Street". The latter was a stylistic forebear of his performance in "MSW", and later "Law & Order".
@robertlongman7298
2 жыл бұрын
You-all keep forgetting that some of these actors brought their star with them to the show. MSW didn't make Lansbury a star; she was already a big, big star. Orbach was mostly known in New York, but there he was big. William Windom was known through many television roles, including as the main lead in "My World and Welcome To It" and a memorable turn as Commodore Decker in "Star Trek (Original Series)".
@annbsirius1703
2 жыл бұрын
@@robertlongman7298 I did know Jerry Orbach was a big deal on Broadway, and I wish I could have seen him, but most people don't get the chance to see shows in New York or London, we get the traveling cast (who are often amazing, too). To most people he's Lennie Briscoe, the dad from Dirty Dancing, or Harry McGraw. Actually his best known role and least known role is Lumiere from Beauty and the Beast. He sang " Be our Guest". I bet if you asked people if they knew that the dad from Dirty Dancing/ Lenny Briscoe/ Harry McGraw was the voice of Lumiere and a Broadway star some would, but most wouldn't. He had an amazing talent! RIP!
@hypertensiondontmentionme1337
2 жыл бұрын
I still watch this show love Grady & cameos we’re so great.
@pictureperfect3211
2 жыл бұрын
Jessica could never be replaced.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Accept no substitutes.
@domshaheen7356
2 жыл бұрын
Jack and Bill was a quality episode. Jack being beautiful and deadly was a cute idea and fun to watch. Class Act had a great premise and the supporting cast were very likeable. Of all of them that’s the one that I would have loved to see more of - it’s a proto How To Get Away With Murder.
@jillian4292
Жыл бұрын
I literally just looked for Class Act and that is how I ended up here.
@Emerald12347
2 жыл бұрын
What about the episode with the 3 college students where one professor who stole one of the student’s music and that student was framed for his murder? That looked like a back door pilot.
@jfsredhead
21 күн бұрын
that was earleir in the show run before trend started
@KimberRose16
2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see more MSW videos on KZitem!
@aladam9691
2 жыл бұрын
I wanted Michael Haggerty from MI6 to get a spin off. It probably would have gone the way of The Law & Harry McGraw because they would have made Michael a womanizer.
@serendipity191
2 жыл бұрын
I would have watched that!
@pinksmartiesag
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't stand Michael Haggerty, personally.
@HOGuru
2 жыл бұрын
They did a spin-off pilot for Michael Haggerty this season - it was called 'The Sicilian Encounter', and it was pitched as a spy show where Michael and a ne'er-do-well playboy conman were going to travel the world doing missions for MI6, butting heads with CIA agent Deirdre Hall. The show was specifically built around Michael and the actor playing the playboy because they'd been great together in the season-opener 'Appointment in Athens'. The problem? In that episode the guy had been playing the killer. The solution? The playboy was that character's identical twin brother. Kind of shocked that didn't make it into this episode. Then again, they also thought the Donald Trump episode wasn't worth covering, so...
@AndreaKollo
11 ай бұрын
YES ... those were a lot of and the tongue-and-cheek fun that Jessica and he had was so good and felt genuine. Len Cariou played him so well and appeared in somewhere around 7 episodes overall.
@manmonkee
2 жыл бұрын
I love the Dennis Stanton ones, I think there where 3 of them?, anyway I would have watched a Stanton series.
@amcaesar
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, look at this roster of young actors who swept through CBS back in the day. Barry Newman's assistant, played by Grant Heslov, would go on to co-produce and direct some of Clooney's dramas.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
That's right. Back in the day audiences might've known Grant Heslov as Chad Lowe's awkward best friend on SPENCER.
@albundy774
2 жыл бұрын
Andy Garcia appeared in the the first episode of Murder She Wrote playing a mugger
@shilohgrayson
2 жыл бұрын
I saw a ton of reruns while at the beach, and Good-bye Charlie was one of them. I love this show so much!
@williamsheets9539
2 жыл бұрын
There was another episode with Shawn Cassidy (I think) and Dinah Manoff that I thought would have made a good spinoff.
@KevinGeeksOut
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, "Murder in a Minor Key" -- it was Shaun Cassidy and it's definitely a bookend (like "Good-Bye Charlie" Jessica is proof-reading her latest manuscript.) I'd read that this one wasn't a backdoor pilot. But now I wonder....
@briansmith6292
2 жыл бұрын
Murder in minor key . One of my favorites
@mauricebarnett6107
2 жыл бұрын
I just saw this episode for the first time a few days ago. I loved it, Shaun Cassidy is such a charmer its easy to see why he was a teen heart throb. I totally woold have watched that show.
@randysills4418
4 күн бұрын
Yes, he looked great in tight pants...❤@@mauricebarnett6107
@bre3000tdothot08
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how I found this channel but it’s LIT and I love it. Good job everyone involved this is MAD interesting. My Granny loves her some Murder she wrote so I’m here for IT! Landsberry was a huge part of my sibling and my childhoods lol. Our lil black behinds LOVE the show too.
@robshimer
2 жыл бұрын
I remember an episode where she went to NYC and basically sat there while a retired detective and a dog did the work. It was Not Ken Howard. He had a mustache.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
I need to see this one! What kind of dog was it?
@robshimer
2 жыл бұрын
It was a big dog. Like a German shepherd .
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
@@robshimer I'm going to seek this out. I need to see the NYC episodes. Thanks!
@robshimer
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe maybe it was not nyc. It a city.
@robshimer
10 ай бұрын
@@atomicabeI may be thinking the one you mentioned here.
@justincorson3155
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! What about the episodes with I believe his name was Dennis Stanton, the former thief turned insurance investigator and his secretary, Rhoda? They could have done a spin-off series with them.
@TomIdelson
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that the episode where Lucie Arnaz plays a Brooklyn detective was supposed to be a vehicle for a spin-off.. Brilliant editing, btw!!
@lorip4087
2 жыл бұрын
That was the Cagney and Lacey parody. Hilarious! One of my favorite episodes.
@TomIdelson
2 жыл бұрын
@@lorip4087 oh my god!!! You are right!! How did I not realize it when I saw it?? 😆🤦♂️ I loved C&L!! I need ro rewatch it!! xo
@lorip4087
2 жыл бұрын
@@TomIdelson The Tara Tiara! It was Brilliant!😄
@toddnolastname4485
2 жыл бұрын
Dennis Stanton has been mentioned, but there was Michael Haggerty who got several episodes of his own. Not sure why these characters weren't popular enough to get at least a half season show of their own. And then there was the MASH actor as the Harry McGraw replacement. I don't suppose they intended him as a spin off. But I'm sure they would have run with him if there had been a demand.
@LaserBadler
2 жыл бұрын
Boy I hated those bookend episodes…when Jessica started talking to us directly I knew we weren’t getting a proper JB Fletcher episode. None of the actors in the spin off pilots had series lead vibe - more like guest star role vibe.
@forgottenfilmchannel1194
2 жыл бұрын
Who knew that MSW had so many spin-offs. Thanks for posting!!
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing. Thanks for watching! (Or at least commenting)
@annbsirius1703
2 жыл бұрын
There was also a book end episode with Sean Cassidy as a law student who has to get his friend off the hook for killing his professor who stole his songs. I don't know that that episode was a potential spin off, though.
@Misadventures_85
Жыл бұрын
"Murder in a Minor Key" (3rd season)
@davej.meister5421
2 жыл бұрын
How about failed Matlock spinoffs that had a pilot episode, but NEVER came to fruition? One of them starred George Peppard (Breakfast At Tiffany's and The A-Team) and Traci Nelson (Rick Nelson's daughter who co-starred in Father Dowling Mysteries, opposite Tom Bosley.) That Matlock ep had a cameo of Ben Matlock, but it focused more on GP and TN's characters, as PI's, instead. That was the only Matlock ep that featured those two actors together.
@davej.meister5421
2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Kene Holliday's character, Tyler Hudson, on Matlock? Why was he replaced by Clarence Gilyard?
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, that is a fun idea. We've done a video about Tracy Nelson's backdoor pilot episode that ran during THE NANNY about a beauty parlor in Queens.
@davej.meister5421
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe That TN and GP backdoor pilot ep via Matlock did NOT really describe the connection between TN's character and Ben Matlock himself, other than something like GP's character Max is an old friend of Ben's. Never really understood how Ben knew TN's character. Turns out that GP's character is actually TN's character's biological father who left her at some point in time during her early childhood. And TN's character did not initially know GP's character when the two were introduced together. Great work chemistry for a father-daughter PI tandem who barely knew one another. There are NO clips of this Matlock ep here at YT, sadly. Might be on DVD or Blu Ray, though.
@markelijio6012
2 жыл бұрын
@@davej.meister5421 I have no idea.
@hanagloriaedelblum5693
Жыл бұрын
We long for the days of moral grandmas and law and order. This collection brought good feelings, if nostalgic, and warm appreciation for traditional values. Thanks for the lovely montage.
@atomicabe
Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. I think the popularity of private detective stories in the '80s reflects a distrust of our institutions of law and order -- and a desire to see some 3rd party (private eyes, vigilantes) deliver justice, without the corruption of the larger system.
@Aivar09
2 жыл бұрын
Great research! - And it's very well made.eserch!
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Aivar09
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe No, no - Thank you!
@shadowdramon01
2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered what Bill Maher did in his acting career. Literally, every time I see him in a movie or tv show, it’s usually just a fake Real Time segment.
@nycsguy
2 жыл бұрын
I used to casually joke about a plot for the final episode of Murder She Wrote, where Jessica Fletcher would be revealed to have been a serial killer operating out of Cabot Cove, Maine.
@debra2700
2 ай бұрын
I just started binging MSW after having watched it when it was originally on and the first thing that came to mind was that whenever Jessica showed up, someone got murdered.
@alyzu4755
2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else mistake 80's Bill Maher with 80's Craig Wasson? And "Lookwell" was really funny. It's too bad it never got picked up
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Bill Maher and Craig Wasson look so much alike. I wonder if they auditioned for the same roles.
@alyzu4755
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe Probably! ☺️
@chrisbullard5901
2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention “The Father Dowling Mysteries”, though! When Sheriff Tupper was replaced, the actor became a Chicago Catholic Priest solving crimes with a streetwise nun (you can’t make this stuff up).
@gogreen7794
2 жыл бұрын
Chicago was played by Denver.
@jenniferpearce1052
2 жыл бұрын
I loved Sister Stevie! Father Dowling was fun.
@robertlongman7298
2 жыл бұрын
@@gogreen7794 Bob or John? And how did he play a whole band?
@marinadeoudes8082
2 жыл бұрын
That show wasn't mentioned because it wasn't an MSW spin-off.
@bkjbearcat78
2 жыл бұрын
I remember a few of the failed back door pilots. Unfortunately the last episode of Laverne and Shirley was a back door pilot for Carmine. Then the last season of Facts of Life had two I remember. The first was Blair running Eastland Academy. And the second one was Natalie and Tootie living in NY with other twenty something roommates. Two of the roommates was David Spade and Richard Grieco if I remember correctly.
@ZestonN
2 жыл бұрын
The Proto-30 Rock and College Detective Team episodes, look like they would've been fun to watch. 😃
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree. The Pat Hingle episode did not appeal to me but I'm surprised CBS didn't go for it.
@HipsterBlood
2 жыл бұрын
Murder, She Wrote and Angela Lansbury remain iconic!
@lizd.8655
Жыл бұрын
RIP Angela Lansbury. You're right, a MSW episode needs Jessica Fletcher to work!
@christianlarson2933
2 жыл бұрын
I knew Maher as the star of "Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death" and "Pizza Man" long before anything else!
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I knew him from early tv roles like the sleazy lawyer hitting on Geena Davis in SARA. And the comical bartender in the made for tv movie CLUB MED who was always complaining to patrons about his problems.
@gbonkers666
2 жыл бұрын
Long Before, he starred in a TV comedy called Sara which starred Gena Davis...it only lasted a season.
@gbonkers666
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe Yes, Sara! (sorry should've read your message first!) But, check out discount Bill Maher in Body Double.
@blackamerican40
2 жыл бұрын
DC Cab 1983
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
@@gbonkers666 Yes. I only recently learned that SARA was created by the team behind FAMILY TIES.
@larrygilbert7273
2 жыл бұрын
"Murder - According to Maggie" looked like it would've been pretty good. In just that short clip it was apparent that the lead was appealing, attractive, and funny.
@MISFITaddict
2 жыл бұрын
Peter s Fischer wrote the queen Mary script.. wonder if there's any connection to miss Fischer murder mystery
@mattmallecoccio8378
2 жыл бұрын
There was one backdoor pilot that must have been from another season with Shaun Cassidy that was really pretty good
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes "Murder in a Minor Key" -- another example of Jessica sharing a new book with viewers. I'd read that this bookend was not meant as a backdoor pilot -- but now I'm not so sure. It had a good premise and a strong cast. Shaun Cassidy returned to crime-solving days from THE HARDY BOYS.
@robertmuggeridge4736
2 жыл бұрын
Of all of them Lt Ballinger and class act should have got the spin off, I loved the characters they had in that episode.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that show was fully realized with the police department, the college, the home life with his daughter, Ballinger's office. They really had it all mapped out.
@jeremyusreevu237
2 жыл бұрын
I think that comment at the end perfectly cements why so many Backdoor pilots fail. We like these shows because we care about the characters and locations of THAT SHOW.
@joebaumgart1146
2 жыл бұрын
I think they should made a sequel to Scooby Doo where Scrappy is an Alcoholic war vet with severe PTSD who becomes a PI solving brutal murders in Vancouver, British Columbia.
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
would watch
@ronaldiniego7334
2 жыл бұрын
Angela Lansbury and Jerry Orbach are both in Disney's Beauty and the Beast.
@gebronthomasson6960
Жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite shows..
@katemaloney4296
Жыл бұрын
Do an episode that theorizes that Jessica Fletcher was a serial killer who framed innocent people so she could have a book plot.
@michaelglover2871
2 жыл бұрын
I think the worst "bookend" episode of any show I watched was the season two finale of The Golden Girls. It was the original concept of Empty Nest. The girls setup the beginning, then it was a race to see how fast you could change the channel. 🤔
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, we did a video about that episode of THE GOLDEN GIRLS. It starred Rita Moreno and Paul Dooley, that went through a lot of changes when it became EMPTY NEST with Richard Mulligan.
@NickNadel
2 жыл бұрын
Check out the Golden Girls backdoor pilot episode! Thanks for watching. kzitem.info/news/bejne/1qd4m5Oqe5iGoXo
@christophermaybury4918
2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@icon_uk624
Жыл бұрын
As others have mentioned, "Murder in a Minor Key" definitely feels like a pilot for Chad and Jenny, especially when Jessica mentions her plans for a sequel with them
@thumpercomet3856
6 ай бұрын
I still remember that feeling of my heart sinking every time Jessica would talk to the camera. I knew it was gonna be a side story. Season's six and seven were terrible.
@angelaholmes8888
2 жыл бұрын
I didn't enjoy any of the spinoff episodes not surprised that none of them were greenlit
@pushingdasies1
2 жыл бұрын
I remember the bookend season. It was pretty bad how they tied them in to Jessica. I liked the ones that at least had her "recurring" friends. But some of them had weaker mysteries. I remember a music ones had came down to "lights/phone order" that didn't seem clever at all.
@dannyspelman1468
2 жыл бұрын
I saw another one with one of Jessica Fletcher's characters as a detective. A tall grey haired man with a mustache. I saw it I tell ya! How come it wasn't mentioned? Edit: Okay someone else asked with more details and you gave a sufficient answer. Cheers.
@albundy774
2 жыл бұрын
No mention of the episodes featuring the Dennis Stanton (Kieth Michell) character I always found those quite enjoyable and always was a pity he never got his own show
@citydweller99
2 жыл бұрын
Was that the one that had the smart aleck assistant?
@albundy774
2 жыл бұрын
@@citydweller99 Yes and also with his ungrateful boss
@brianmurphy250
2 жыл бұрын
I always consider Jessica to be The Angel of Death. Everywhere she goes People DIE.
@FerintoshFarmsPhotography
2 жыл бұрын
One I seen the other night, was Princesses. Was a back door forced in pilot on Whose The Boss with Tony Danza and was set to feature Fran Drescher who in the backdoor pilot had a horrible fake voice but in the actual show has her normal voice. I was reading about that so the all mighty alrgorthinm brought me here after.
@markmarsh27
2 жыл бұрын
Every time that woman went ANYWHERE, dead bodies showed up immediately. ... The murderers in this show were all framed, SHE DID IT!
@MelaninJay
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what my mama says. Lmao
@guardiane
10 ай бұрын
The only thing I can say about "Murder She Wrote" is that my Grandma used to watch this ALL THE TIME. I never watched a single episode myself. I'm sure it was good.
@debra2700
2 ай бұрын
I'm binge watching it now and it's dated but it's such a nice break from all the bad news going on today and I think that's why so many people are binge watching these old shows.
@guardiane
2 ай бұрын
@@debra2700 All I do is watch old shows...I gave up on anything new years ago. Can't believe how much things have changed...and I can't believe most people are buying into it. Guess I'm too old fashioned.
@debra2700
2 ай бұрын
@@guardiane I'm with you. Happy to go back to the days when people were polite, laws were respected and all of this woke stuff wasn't even heard of yet. Much easier on the nerves!
@gallery7596
Жыл бұрын
No matter how dull you thought it was, you should've still filled us in on "O'Malley's Luck." Otherwise, excellent video.
@Aaron-zt5ee
2 жыл бұрын
It’s weird seeing Bill Mahr in a network TV show aimed at elderly ladies.
@notmyrealname6150
2 жыл бұрын
Bill Maher in "Murder, Politically Incorrect"
@markelijio6012
Жыл бұрын
The Emmy winning TV series that lasted for 12 successful seasons. Filmed at Universal City Studios in Universal City, California, USA.
@GoldAndSilver988
2 жыл бұрын
Unmentioned was the one episode of the spinoff "Killing, He Scribbled," lol.
@PeanutwormZ
8 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining why murder she wrote season 5 has always confused me
@msarek4100
2 жыл бұрын
That was good work. Bravo!
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you - very nice to hear
@MasterFhyl
Жыл бұрын
Jerry Orbach also co-starred with Angela Lansberry as Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast. (The good one)
@atomicabe
Жыл бұрын
That's right!
@annnee6818
Жыл бұрын
I used to watch this as a child, loved it
@serinadalmer800
5 ай бұрын
Dennis Stanton, the college kids that solve a murder, were also possible spinoffs. Also O'Malley's Luck is great.
@atomicabe
5 ай бұрын
O'Malley's luck is fascinating because Ron Liebman is basically playing Donald Trump.
@JayTemple
2 жыл бұрын
"'Backdoor Pilot, She Wrote" should have been the title of this video!
@GranTyrant
2 жыл бұрын
Man, I absolutely LOATHE Bill Maher
@kevinbergin9971
2 жыл бұрын
Well, if you'd have watched his spin-off he wouldn't be on HBO giving his opinions all the time.
@marinadeoudes8082
2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbergin9971 hahahaha so true!
@annnee6818
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinbergin9971 lol. It's really weird he's lost his touch, he's just an old griping ill informed out of touch rich f*ck now. He used to be a lot sharper. But he was always annoying 😂
@angelaholmes8888
2 жыл бұрын
Season 6 is my least favorite season of murder she wrote because I didn't see Jessica that much along with season 12
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
I get it. Because they weren't backdoor pilots we didn't get into the Dennis Stanton episode from that season ("Once a Thief") His character returned for a bunch of non Jessica episodes, it's like he has a limited series wedged into season 7 of MURDER, SHE WROTE.
@angelaholmes8888
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe that's so true I remember him 💯
@SirAsdf
6 ай бұрын
Only in the 90s could a teacher fire a gun in the middle of a crowded classroom and not only not be arrested but somehow still have a job.
@BDRose
Жыл бұрын
The role of Maggie was played by Diana Canova of "Soap" fame.
@Jamessmith-xk3fh
2 жыл бұрын
If you grew up in the early 90s you probably remember murder she wrote because it was the show that came on before WWF/WWE Monday Night Raw on the USA Network
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Had not thought of that. Great point
@Jamessmith-xk3fh
2 жыл бұрын
@@atomicabe I'm 37 and like Murder She Wrote. I can't remember what streaming service it's on but I watched a few episodes a few months ago
@atomicabe
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamessmith-xk3fh Peacock and Roku have it -- and so does Freevee. I don't know if the four movies are streaming anywhere.
@SunShine-qk4rb
7 ай бұрын
Great show. Great video.I never knew about this
@JoeyArmstrong2800
Жыл бұрын
This show was so popular during my youth and I have never seen a single episode. Am I missing out?
@atomicabe
Жыл бұрын
Hmm. Great question. I don't know. I'm not sure it would work if you didn't watch it at an impressionable age. But maybe? Give it a shot. If you like it, there are a lot of seasons.
@hangoutwithme346
Жыл бұрын
When I saw the jack and bill episode with my sister I literally said, ‘I wish this could have been a spinoff.’ It was great! So charming!
@LennyT007
7 ай бұрын
i had always thought that the 9 Dennis Stanton (Keith Michell) episodes were attempts at backdoor pilots for that character. 🙂
@atomicabe
7 ай бұрын
Yes, it really does seem that way, but from what I've read it wasn't the case. Those were episodes meant to help Angela Lansbury take a break.
@davidthomas283
Жыл бұрын
Also Len Cariou as Jessica's MI5 friend would have been a great spin off.
@TJ52359
3 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that he never got a 100% stand alone episode (Angela had lighter duties; but never a 'week off' like she did in the bookend episodes
@davidaston5773
2 жыл бұрын
You've missed one out. This English gent who had 2 stories where he's the one solving murders.
@Freya-bs5tx
2 жыл бұрын
One of the few tv shows I ever watched, wasn't into TV back then.
@gbonkers666
2 жыл бұрын
Yes...that is Bill Mahar...
@DarkPhoenixSaga
2 жыл бұрын
Lol yup
@vj9021
2 жыл бұрын
Amos did sort of, with a new vocation, with Father Dowling Mysteries so one sort of spin off.
@CrankyGrandma
2 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, Bill Maher! I was looking at him and saying WHI IS THAT! I KNOW HIM! But he was out of context….and a lot younger.
@paulafitzhenry1036
2 жыл бұрын
I love watching the repeats, but the book end episodes, are not usually my favorites. Especially the ones with Dennis Stanton.
@LLewis-vu9qf
2 жыл бұрын
You didn't like Dennis Stanton? Too bad; different strokes I guess. I really enjoyed the episodes with Dennis as well as the ones with Michael Haggerty (Len Cariou now Henry Reagan on Blue Bloods).
@Fluffymonkeyem
7 ай бұрын
"And for you hardcore fans 55 original novels" calling me out over here 😅
@ethansloan
Жыл бұрын
Murder According to Maggie looks like the most fun, but I'm not sure how you would sustain the premise week after week. I'm assuming by the end of the episode she saves her show. It's already pretty contrived for Jessica Fletcher to be a mystery writer who keeps stumbling onto real-life crimes; another series with a writer doing that starts to really strain credibility and diminish the whole "fish out of water" premise. It sounds like it actually might be a great premise for a movie. Jack and Bill similarly might work as a movie (as Turner and Hooch and K-9 did), but as a series you run into the problem of how many ways can you force a dog into a story. There's a reason Tequila & Bonetti didn't work. Well, several reasons. But a major one was just the basic premise. Class Act definitely has the most potential for week-after-week stories. A good ensemble cast, and a premise that easily lends its characters to meeting other people who could all, at any moment, commit or be the victim of a crime. I'm honestly really surprised that one didn't go to series, and the premise could easily work today.
@atomicabe
Жыл бұрын
I agree with all of this. As much as I enjoyed MURDER ACCORDING TO MAGGIE, it might be a tough one to deliver on each week. And yes, the episode ends with the suggestion that she saved her show "for now" and then it's back to the usual headaches of running a series.
@Jabberstax
2 жыл бұрын
More videos like this please 🙏
@sajamor0811
7 ай бұрын
I think it's a real shame Dennis Stanton didn't get his own series. He was a fascinating character with having been on both sides of the law and on the wrong one for sympathetic reasons. Dennis also blended pathos for being a grieving widower with some great comedy and an infectious positivity. Plus Keith Michell was the best actor to ever appear in MSW!
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