I hope because of your tests, broadhead companies will start putting more effort in sharpness.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's the edge retention that's the issue. All of them cut paper out of the package; they are plenty sharp. But it takes good steel to be able to hold it's edge well.
@acanuck3267
4 жыл бұрын
I find something extremely disturbing that a broadhead doesn't stay 'sharp' after one arrow shaft pass. The manufacturers have failed if a head doesn't come stupid watch what your doing sharp from the pack.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that arrow shaft test is really a good indicator of the heads ability to hold an edge. Most heads can cut paper out of the package, but if the steel is not really good, it will lose that edge quickly.
@sdcb27
Жыл бұрын
I seen some horrible dull Shuttle T and difficult to sharpen. Also had issues tuning them
@LuskArcheryAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that experience.
@ericbaumgartner5742
Жыл бұрын
The hole would be the same if you weren't shooting through steel. Same diameter 3 blade would produce the same hole through flesh. Metal tests are good for durability only
@LuskArcheryAdventures
Жыл бұрын
That’s not entirely true. The thickness of the blades and ferrule make a difference in the hole it opens up. Why do you think the holes look different in steel?
@sarahworkman6364
7 ай бұрын
I would have to pick the tshuttle lock coz have hunted. Alot with them and always killed without a problem and when i shoot o i aways hit where i wanted i to
@LuskArcheryAdventures
6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@boomerrangerron
2 жыл бұрын
You do such a thorough job on these tests and reviews! I've always been a MUZZY fan, and I was wondering what's the FPS on your Bowtech setup? I've moved to shooting a crossbow now, at around 315 FPS, but I think the Muzzy One looks very impressive and should fly well.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 250 fps with a 440 gr arrow.
@sarahworkman6364
7 ай бұрын
You always make a great video on the points matter best thank you for your work
@LuskArcheryAdventures
6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that!
@bowsnstuff5454
4 жыл бұрын
Cool, you should try the Bone broadheads, I've heard really good things about them
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to test them at some point; If someone donates them, I'll gladly test them out.
@fathdboy2000
Жыл бұрын
I bought two packs of Muzzy One and found they are not sharp out of the box... After hours of sharpening on flat stones (3) I got then better but still not cutting paper???? Do they come out of the box dull??? I don't think SS steel will sharpen...
@LuskArcheryAdventures
Жыл бұрын
The 60 degree bevel is the issue. It makes the edges durable but won't get super sharp without a lot of work. The Stay Sharp Guide 344 Sharpener changes the angle to 44 degrees, making them much sharper.
@jdonez8347
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting in the work to compare these. Currently on the market for what I may stock up for next year. Tryin to get 6 total for now.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@bigbuck8733
4 жыл бұрын
Great review bro love all you video very informative
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. Much appreciated.
@richardlacquement2874
4 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! You should review the G5 M3 Montec
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd like do that.
@sarahworkman6364
7 ай бұрын
I have hunted deer turkeys and elk bear Buffalo and pheasant and antelope a bighorn ram with them also and never missed my shot of aim never lost not game or never had them tshuttle lock go wrong
@LuskArcheryAdventures
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that.
@bobbybell36
4 жыл бұрын
When you perform the distance test, why do you always shoot at such a big balloon? Not being disrespectful, more of curious. A softball size would seem better for showing the accuracy or lack there of.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I just make it kind of a fun, visual thing. If I can screw on the head and readily pop a balloon at 70 yds, then I consider it a good flying head. If I get too small, then I worry about my form being an issue more than the head itself.
@bobbybell36
4 жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures haha I totally understand.
@kainimocks6004
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using some shuttle T’s for pigs for this last summer and they’ve done well enough but I think when they wear out I’m gonna buy some magnus black hornet ser razors
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a good move. In my opinion, the BH is way way better than the Shuttle T.
@matthewlyness8161
4 жыл бұрын
Love these series of videos keep up the good work!!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matthew.
@TheResqdaddy
4 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway you can test the sound each head produces and add that into the test? Because if the head whistles while flying that can cause issue in alerting animals.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I'm not concerned about flight noise at all. I've never found that to be an issue in hunting. Bow noise is huge, cause animals can pinpoint the location of a static sound. But a whistling object flying at 300 fps is a whole different matter; could be a bird or a bug; I've never seen an animal bothered by it.
@kurtjohnson2209
4 жыл бұрын
I think the edge retention was way better on the m1. You said after the 3rd shot on shuttle t, they went bad, but held up! Excellent review as always 👍
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kurt.
@clayrichardson1839
4 жыл бұрын
I tried the t-shuttle from tree stands on axis deer. Although they shot well for broadside opportunities, I found that on most angle shots the broad heads had difficulty with hide penetration. Once had an arrow bounce off a bucks upper shoulder area & another pierce the hide & slide down between the skin & ribs. Basically skinning the buck. Luckily this one dropped for a few seconds providing time for a second arrow I’ve had much better success with the qad exodus. Now use my left over t-shuttles on birds.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Clay. Yeah, I love the Exodus as well.
@harleyhunter68
4 жыл бұрын
the hole in steel looks similar to the annihilator hole you tested, only slightly smaller.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it's smaller, as the cutting diameter of the Annihilator is sub 1" and this is 1 1/8", but both do punch a true hole--especially the Annihilator.
@matthewarnold3196
4 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing Kevin.
@OrionARS
Жыл бұрын
Ide really love your recommendation of a solid 3 blade in the style of the muzzy one. Maybe one with a bit better of blade retention? I love the idea of being able to easily resharpen and also not worrying about blades busting off and or getting mangled if I accidentally hit a shoulder. Basically, what's the best 3 blade solid you've tested to date? Lol
@LuskArcheryAdventures
Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of great ones. I really like the new Vector MD3. The Slick Trick SS3 is also good. Deepower makes a 1 1/8" and a 1.25" model that are outstanding and super inexpensive. You can find all of those tests here on my channel.
@OrionARS
Жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures yeah I purchased the deepower 1.25" Saturday after seeing your review on it. Can't wait til they come in!
@regularguy8110
4 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown. What is the cutting edge length of both? I've used replaceable blades and solids. My personal preference is solids.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I don't measure the cutting edge length, and it's difficult to do that with the Shuttle T cause of the curve.
@GBBLGBL
4 жыл бұрын
John I know you have reviewed the Grim Reaper Micro Hades and I have chosen the 4 blade micro as my head this fall. I have two VERY similar heads I want to ship you and have you do a battle. I have the brand new G5 Striker X 4 blade 1.25" vs the Grim Reaper Pro Series 4 blade (non micro) 1 3/16". I may also include a Micro Hades battle 3 blade 1 1/16" vs 4 blade 1 1/16". Where do I ship them to?
@GBBLGBL
4 жыл бұрын
I also have a few packs of Grim Reaper mechanicals that would like to side by side comparisons, mostly on penetration differences. I have the Carni-Four, Mini-Mag & Whitetail Special. There is another favorite of mine that I turkey hunt with and very few people know about. The TruGlo Titanium X four blade mechanical. It's a very good head! These all would be great tests if you are interested. Have you ever tested a Grim Reaper Hybrid yet?
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Great. I'd love to: 6159 Nottingham Dr, Johnston, Iowa 50131
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I have a vid of the Grim Reaper Micro Hybrid. I love that head.
@uvausmc
4 жыл бұрын
Have you thought about adding how easy it is to resharpen the blades as a part of your evaluations? Shuttle Ts were accurate as hell for me but a pain to touch up the edges.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think I commented on that in the vid. Thank you.
@MrWhiltetail
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you test the Muzzy Trocar "Switch". It seems a little gimmicky & I suspect it's weakness may be the adjustability feature. There isn't a lot of metal there so it might not handle your torture test.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. If someone sends me a pack, I'll gladly test them.
@jasonscott5043
3 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t assume that animals only react to the bow noise but not the sound of a buzzing or whistling broadhead. How have you concluded that an animal’s reaction was always just to the bow noise?
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Well, I've just said that I've never found it to be an issue in any of my hunting situations. I have found bow noise to be, but not arrow flight noise. I know it's a debated issue with people on both sides.
@longdrawarcher4857
4 жыл бұрын
Hey john I’ve got two heads for you to try, that I don’t think you have done videos on. I would like to send them to you, if you’re interested let me know. It might take a couple weeks to get them mailed to you since I drive a big rig, but would love to see a video on them.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Noah. I would love to test them out; that's really generous of you. Can you email me at JohnLusk64@gmail.com, and I will send you my mailing address. Thank you!
@longdrawarcher4857
4 жыл бұрын
Lusk Archery Adventures hey brother just letting you know I have emailed you, in case it went to spam and you didn’t see it you wouldn’t think I ignored you.
@omen2098
4 жыл бұрын
You should test out Day Six broadheads they are a direct to customer sells and also make arrows
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the suggestion.
@fabbrifabbri1225
2 жыл бұрын
Both great broadheads
@LuskArcheryAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@justlee9797
4 жыл бұрын
I love the new format for testing I was wondering if you planned on testing the day six Evo broadhead any time soon I like the direct to consumer sale model like sevr
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion.
@melvinsacromentoe
4 жыл бұрын
John, pick my broad heads this year, afflictor k2 fixed or qad exodus?
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Melvin. Those are both great heads; I've taken multiple animals with both of them. But if I had to pick one, I'd go with the Exodus just because it is one of the most durable heads on the market--I've shot it into concrete and steel flatbar and it held up fine...and it keeps its edge extremely well.
@melvinsacromentoe
4 жыл бұрын
Lusk Archery Adventures thanks!
@jasonchumbley7975
4 жыл бұрын
try the same two heads. but see which is louder coming towards the target . the head with holes will always whistle. most bows shoot fast enough these days that it doesn't matter , but still they may be able to duck the shot
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's true. But I really don't care about arrow flight noise. Bow noise is huge, cause an animal can place its origin. But an object zipping thru the air is not the same--could be a bird or a bug for all the deer knows. I've never seen it to be an issue in any hunting situation. But I know there are many who are concerned about it; the archery community is about 50-50 on it.
@bradycrane3908
3 жыл бұрын
I personally think your accuracy tests could be better. Popping a balloon doesn’t exactly show a broadhead’s accuracy. It could only be able to shoot 8” groups and still pop the balloon. I’d like to see how they will group. In my opinion, if a head won’t shoot groups as well as field points, it’s not accurate enough. The entry hole conclusion is flawed as well. The Shuttle T will push a hide inward before cutting. They tend to cut holes much larger than their cutting diameter.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing that Brady. No test regimen will perfectly simulate what happens on an animal. I have updated my accuracy process now. I shoot one field point and two broadheads at 40 yds and see how they group together. The point of the balloon at 70 yds was just to show that I could screw on a head and it would fly well enough to hit the balloon (7" diameter margin) at 70 yds. Most people don't think fixed blades can do that. The entry hole in the steel, like any test, is just one more data point to consider. Most heads create a larger wound channel on an animal due to hide stretching, so there's nothing unique to the Shuttle T in that regard other than it's thicker chisel tip. But its overall wound channel without tissue stretch is one of the smallest of the 3 blade heads I've tested. And given that many others will stretch tissue in the same manner, I feel confident concluding, its wound channel is not its strong suit. Shot placement is the most important factor in any broadhead, and I'm sure the Shuttle T will effectively kill many animals. There are just other heads that will create a better wound channel, even with the same design specs/parameters/dimensions.
@bradycrane3908
3 жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I wonder if a rubber sheet or soft tanned leather with memory type foam behind it would be a consistent enough medium to use as a hide simulation. I really appreciate your videos and I especially appreciate your willingness to consider what your viewers would like to see. Thank you very much and keep it up.
@MrWhiltetail
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't you do a video on the Muzzy Trocar? I can't find it.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
I've tested it in some of my earlier vids, like the Normal Priced Broadhead Test. But I have a pack a buddy just sent me and I'm starting to test them.
@MrWhiltetail
3 жыл бұрын
@@LuskArcheryAdventures I found it. Unfortunately near the end there was a large "thumbnail" for another video covering the Muzzy Trocar so I couldn't see how it held up to the cinder block test which is a major bummer since that is the head I'm thinking about getting.
@davidgreer9567
4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Watch all your videos. I do have one complaint. Where was the tag mark " Bullsye" after the distance shot? You shoot the balloon pops small pause. "Bullseye" lol just playing man thanks for all the content!!
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks David.
@chrisochoa1222
4 жыл бұрын
Do you think a true-hole type broad head hole is as good or better than like a rage for example because even though its smaller it opens a nearly closeable hole verses big slice like Rage?
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
That's a good question. I've actually found just the opposite. When the slit is really long, it actually stretches into an even bigger hole when the animal starts moving. But a smaller hole stays the same size and is easier to plug up with tissue and fat.
@theamputeehunter2074
3 жыл бұрын
I’d pick the muzzy one myself just on the size of the whole and how easy it it to sharpen
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Agreed.
@chazt4863
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video! How does the Slick Trick Wicked trick broadhead compare in accuracy to these broadheads?
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
I tested the Wicked Trick and have a vid on that one as well. It was very accurate.
@pearsonsp06
4 жыл бұрын
John, love your videos! Strictly hunting white tails. Whats your go to heads? Mechanical and fixed?
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Right now its a Sevr 1.5. But I also like Affictors, Exodus, and Iron Will Wides.
@pearsonsp06
3 жыл бұрын
Lusk Archery Adventures thanks for the reply. I ended up going with the sevr 1.7” for me and the robusto’s for my son and his crossbow
@curtisrichardson7636
2 жыл бұрын
Muzzy One won that one lol
@LuskArcheryAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
@zhickman338
4 жыл бұрын
After the sharpness test I'd say they are both losers.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was disappointing.
@jasonscott5043
3 жыл бұрын
It’s a stretch of imagination to believe that the shape of the hole in the steel translates to a better wound channel on an animal. I’ll take more forgiving and quieter flight, with deeper penetration over the hole in steel. You should factor the noise of flight into your comparison. Record the sound of the arrows in flight at the target.
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Jason. For me, arrow flight noise is not a concern. I know it is for some, but it's not for me. I use helical blazers that are already loud anyway. And I have to disagree about the would channel. Displaced tissue is displaced tissue. I've seen the direct correlation on animals as well. Some heads make more slits and some make more holes; it's as simple as well. All other things equal, the more tissue displaced, the great the wound channel and blood letting.
@Bobb1julie
4 жыл бұрын
Great 👍 video John. We know the # 1 broadhead
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
Haha. Right on.
@stanthebamafan
3 жыл бұрын
Neither of these broad heads excited me
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, me neither. There are just much better choices.
@155michaelx
3 жыл бұрын
i would choose the shuttle t.. i like smaller holes with deeper penetration
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Okay. Thanks for sharing that.
@kevinh4631
4 жыл бұрын
Price per 3 pack is????
@LuskArcheryAdventures
4 жыл бұрын
I just took the price of a 3 pack and divided it by 3 to give the price per individual head. I do it that way because some heads are sold as individuals and because some are very expensive. So the price of a 3 pack is just the price of an individual head multiplied by 3.
@treatb09
2 жыл бұрын
All about physics. Those curved blades should cause angular refraction of trajectory on impact. A constant angle is best. Also because of that curve its like hitting a flat surface. Almost like its chopping instead of cutting. Its more difficult to sharpen each blade consistently to the other. Which will hinder its trajectory after impact. Makes sense why they are replaceable blades because they design an inferior product with flaws so they can sell an after market product
@LuskArcheryAdventures
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Bo.
@moneyandtimefreedom3352
3 жыл бұрын
Muzzy has never been sharp
@LuskArcheryAdventures
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I don't worry much about out of the box sharpness, cause I like to sharpen up pretty much every head before I hunt with it.
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