It really annoys me here in the UK that dealers think they can BS us. Stand your ground indeed. Looking forward to the follow ups to this. We even got trading standards involved when we had issues with a German Marque.
@markprice4983
4 жыл бұрын
I've been wanting a Jaguar XF since they were launched in 2008, but I am second hand car man and it takes some time (years) for me to be able to afford a car I like. However I finally bought a 2009 XF and absolutely love it! In fact this is my 68th car in 30 years of driving and my first ever Jag and it has completely won me over. I've been watching Hiltons videos for quite a while and taken on board his tips and advice on his old XF of which some I will be doing to my car. I really enjoy the videos and Hitons relaxed attitude, keep them going!
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey there Mark. Many thanks for watching my videos. I'm thrilled to hear you've bought at 2009. My old one was a 2009 and I still say it was the best car I ever owned. Even better than my new XF. It just felt different to the new one. The difference is Ford owned Jag when the older one was designed and they didn't cut corners. Tata own Jag now and quality has gone downhill. The new one is still fun to drive, but it doesn't have that feel of the older XF. I'm still looking for an older one 2014 or 2015 model to trade my new one in on because they are the better car. If I find an XFR at a good price, I might even buy one. But a 3L s/c is the main thing on my list with low mileage and full dealer service history - and they are scarce, especially since lockdown. Hopefully with lockdown having eased here in South Africa, car dealers can finally start doing business again and I'll find what I want. Congrats on your purchase and I wish you thousands of happy motoring in your XF.
@malcolmjones7650
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton interesting video putting me off now off upgrading my x250 in the future, I always remember you replying to me in the past say keep your x250 as long as you can. The build quality on my 9 year old x250 is excellent.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Malcolm - yes absolutely. I knew the new XF wasn't as good as the old one and my review back in 2016 of that white one was actually spot on now that I actually own one. Human beings aren't stupid, we know by a certain sixth sense when something is bad for us or good for us and I just knew back then that Jaguar had cut some corners with this car. I should have listened to my own advice ;)
@nevillefletcher7518
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, so disappointing, hope they sort this out for you and reinstate your confidence in Jaguar!
@TicketyBoo.
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton. I share your pain and experiences. I lost confidence in my previous XF X250 after I had the front discs and pads changed 5 times in a single year (honestly) to address a wheel shudder that the dealer couldn't diagnose. Aircon failed, stop/start failed, constant battery warnings from the day I bought it. Mileage was getting high so like you I upgraded to a one year old X260 RSport. Despite being 6 years newer the satnav was several years out of date and didn't include main roads and bridges that the old one did. It took a year for them to provide an update that cost me £90 UK. They said they would refund me but never did. Other than that the Bluetooth would cut me off mid-call as yours did and the reverse camera failed as often as it worked but never a fault found. To be honest I've loved both cars, they look the part and they're great to drive and like any make, things can go wrong. But Jaguar have a lot to learn about customer service. My next car will NOT be a Jaguar. That's not based on the quality of their cars but solely on their "got your money, now go away" attitude. I wouldn't consider going back to an older model either Hilton. You'll get the same poor service whatever the model.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks TB. Unfortunately, the dealer can make or break a brand and this one isn't doing Jaguar any favors. I have sent Jaguar Head Office a note to inform them of this and hopefully they'll take action against the dealer. I now have to give them a fair chance of repairing it, but what is fair to me? This is the 3rd time they've got to fix this issue. As with your experience, your dealer let you down and now your perception of your car is tainted. I feel the same way about my XF now, but knowing what I know of my old one, they're just better put together. I think the early facelift 2013 models suffered the most as Jaguar introduced a lot of new technology into that car. It was a comprehensive facelift from the stop/start technology to the sound system which got a complete overhaul. Many electronics were also replaced and (improved), but my the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" rings so true here - but manufacturers are all playing in the competition game of trying to outdo each other and this ends up in customer dissatisfaction when they didn't get it quite right.
@kevloomes8256
4 жыл бұрын
So many problems, I feel your pain! On the other hand I have not had one single issue with anything on my 2008 XF. It just shows you one car can be different to the next - but I think that can happen with any make.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
@@kevloomes8256 Very true Kev
@matthew4659
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, another thing Hilton old boy....I found 3 very nice XF’s here in the US. 2 are in Florida, one being an XFR, and the other being the one I told you about, the grey 2013 XF 3.0L V6 w/24K miles with duotone red/charcoal grey interior and the optional side fascia, rear spoiler and front fascia in Florida. This Jaguar had only one owner, a rich woman who drove it when she came down to Florida to spend the winters and then only drive it to the country club to golf. This jag had early issues with front wheel bearings replaced, wheel speed sensor replaced, O2 sensor replaced, hood adjusted, two wheel alignment, all before the car had 3K on the clock! It then had the window switch replaced, the transmission range switch replaced at 17K miles and the battery replaced at 24 K miles. That’s it for its service history. Not much else went wrong with this jag. This Jaguar also has the lowest mileage of the three. The other 2 are both Salsa Red XFR’s with unblemished ivory leather interiors. I mean they look brand new. The one XFR in Florida the other XFR in Illinois (a snow state, (i.e., possible rust). The XFR in Florida is a 2014 with 50K miles on it. It’s service record shows the best regular oil changes with not much else gone wrong. It did have the battery/charging system “checked” 7X in 6 years but nothing repaired or replaced in relation to them checking out the system 7X. The XFR in Illinois has 42K miles on the clock but it has no service history on its CARFAX, though the dealer whose selling the car told me it was sold by them and serviced for the life of the jag by them and had an owner who babied the car. I’m thinking maybe the don’t enter their service work to CARFAX. I was told this by other dealers too. Maybe their dealership doesn’t participate with the CARFAX service. Both XFR’s are in pristine condition, driven by women (so absolutely no wrinkles in the drivers leather seat!). Non smoker, always garaged. My question to you Hilton is this, which one would you choose??? The two XFR’s look mean and fast but so does the grey 3.0L XF car with its added optional side fascia, rear spoiler and front fascia and upgraded rims of a much newer year . The only difference is the HP (510 for the XFR’s vs. 340 for the V6 ), rim size (19”vs. 20”). MPG (22 mpg combined for the V6 vs. 18 mpg combined for the two XFR’s) and of course some interior finish differences. Oh lastly, and maybe more importantly, the price tags ($18K for the 3.0L grey jag vs. $29K for both the 2011 and 2014 red XFR’s). My thoughts are; does one really need 510 HP these days? I mean I can’t open it up here or the CHP will pull me over and give me a ticket if I drive over 80 mph!! Plus, I’m thinking, a V8 engine is a lot more costly to maintain and with jags I worry about what could go wrong with such a more powerful engine vs. the smaller 2013 V6 3.0 L non XFR jag. Anyway, if you get the time let me know your thoughts. All three jags look brand new. And the grey 3.0L does only have 24K miles on it. Not bad for a 2013 XF. Though I’d love to have an XFR, does the additional $11K make sense vs. the 2013 premium jag with 24K miles on the clock?
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mathew, I'd be tempted to get an XFR, however, if you're happy to spend a little more on maintenance, then I would go with the XFR. Keep in mind, everything costs more on a performance car. It has two more spark plugs than the 3L s/c and it has performance brakes which cost a small fortune to replace when the time comes. One gripe I always had with the X250 is that they were heavy on brakes and the brake dust would accumulate on the wheels within two days of washing it. Standard brakes are very expensive to replace, but XFR will be double that. As for the air filters, they are the same in the 3L as the 5L XFR. Personally, I'd go for the Floriday XFR with 50k on the clock. I'm crazy that way, as I don't mind paying the extra cost in maintenance, but since Jaguar no longer make XFR's, they will become even more sought after five or seven years from now and prices will start to go up instead of down. Florida is a hot climate, so just make sure it has definitely had its oil changes regularly as those engines get very hot indeed and the oil degrades very fast. I wouldn't worry too much about the 7x battery module reset as all X250 XF's have that annoying battery low warning - it doesn't mean the battery is low, just that the car is preserving energy to ensure the battery can start it next time round. Jaguar should have done an update on the old system to do away with that warning. The battery light to pay attention to is the little red one by the dials - if that comes on, then it's serious. But you mentioned the owner didn't drive it much and that's why the battery low warning constantly displays on the infotainment - it just needs a good long drive during the day to charge and cycle the battery properly. I do agree that there is a vast premium between the 5L and the 3L but the power difference is also vast - that 5.0 super charged engine is a total beast and is only available in Range Rovers, F-Type and F-Pace SVR now since XF no longer has a halo model. The best thing to do is to drive the 3L and then drive the 5L if you can find them within easy reach of each other - then decide which of the actual cars will suit you. Both are fantastic cruisers, however, the 3L will give you better gas mileage. It's really up to your personal preference - I'd truly be torn between a low mileage 3L and a higher mileage XFR - they're both great cars and have great engines. Just check though, if memory serves, I think the XFR has a 6 speed ZF tranny as opposed to the 8 ZF speed in the 3L. I think the 6 speed was called a 6HP26 ZF transmission - very good tranny, used in BMW and Audi's as well. So many service parts available. You could even service them at a ZF tranny workshop. Just make sure if you go for the Florida XFR that the tranny has had it's service. It's due for one now as 6 years has lapsed. In the manual, they say the transmission has lifetime oil in it - that means, the lifetime of the warranty or service plan - but in the workshop manual, they must be serviced every 6 years or 100,000 miles whichever comes first. The hotter the climate, the quicker the oil degrades. I wish you good luck my friend until you find that XF of your dreams.
@sgtboscorelli8599
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton, Sad to hear this about the dealership members to be such muppets. Its a pity that you have so much issues with your XF. I personally got my '16 XF 3.0 35t this year and i couldn't be more happier.. i have no issues what so ever. Already drove 3.000+km and she had 41.400km on the clock when i got her.. I wish you and her all the best !
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. I'm sure once these issues are taken care of, it will prove to be a reliable car as the engine and tranny have never skipped a beat yet. It's more the hang-on bits that are falling apart. It is still enjoyable to drive, but not having A/C is not acceptable in my country as it's hot here all year round and we use A/C everywhere we go. I'm hoping they find the cause of the A/C gas leak as well before the warranty runs it's course.
@ronnyjaco7483
Жыл бұрын
Hello Hilton, I own an XF, 2010 ,I love watching your videos, I learnt always something new. You can't trust the dealers. I bought a second hand jag 3000D from a friend, who has a maintenance contract. Last summer I had troubles with the gearbox, and let it flushed ( the seal was still on the gearbox- they never had it flusht). Here in Belgian there is a shortage of parts, and I had to wait 2 months for a gear selector but.... I have the car now 6 years , with 250.000km on the clock, and I don't think that I gonna change him for another.
@carfanfan
Жыл бұрын
Hey Ronny. Yup, keep it. You know what you have These cars are long lasting and well engineered by Ford, so they are tough, 😊
@bluegec8721
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton. Im sorry to hear of your issues with your Jag but let me give you the other side to this. Ive just had two washer pumps replaced under warranty- the headlight and windscreen pumps both went. I have the extended warranty on my car and the dealership have been brilliant about the work. It being completed with out any issues . Also I get the point you made about "drooling " over your old Jag. I have a 3.0V6 2014 XF in Ultimate black with grey leather interior. I had it machine polished and ceramic coated and yes, I drool over mine too. The 3.0 litre engine is an absolute joy to have, its happy to potter around town at 30 mph but press all the buttons and floor the throtle and the car hurls itself at the horizon like a javelin. Like you I prefer the old style XF but I am awaiting the new model that comes out later this year, just to see if I can be tempted. Dont give up on the brand just yet
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I definitely won't give up on the brand due to a delinquent dealer. Sure, they've spoilt my Jaguar experience, but I still love Jaguar and will never get it out my blood. So I'm looking mostly at 3L V6 S/C models. Some have high mileage, but if I can get one with around 30,000 to 40,000 km's on the clock for a good price, I'll pounce on it pronto. I like the white with the black pack. They just look so good with black wheels and grills. Aggressive and Aston Martinish. Not that I like Aston - not the modern ones any way. The DB7 and DB9 were beauts.
@kevloomes8256
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see your video on the android entertainment system that you mentioned - especially if it’s for the older XF as I would be looking to do the same!
@trevorelliotte4722
4 жыл бұрын
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@mygodisable2
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hilton, sorry that this is happening. Find out the name of the dealership owner, manager, & the president of Jaguar and let them know the issues. They need to know how you are having unresolved issues with the car and the dealership. This is so unacceptable. You have footage, sue if you have to. Nice to hear from you again.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I've been talking to the service manager who has personally overseen the work on my car. I'll see if this attention continues when it goes back again. Stay tuned 😉
@mygodisable2
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan Thanks
@djespo69
4 жыл бұрын
They hear it all the time and do not care. Jaguar is know for making crap cars. Just sell it for $6,000 and learn your lesson. Next time buy anything except Jag, Nissan, Ford, Fiat, or Chrysler. Try a Japanese car but not a Mitsubishi
@mygodisable2
4 жыл бұрын
@@djespo69 wow didn't know know that. Thanks.
@ginggur17
4 жыл бұрын
We have a 2012 Jaguar XF, 3.0 V6 twin turbo diesel, 275bhp. Ours is a White Sport with the Anthracite Grey 20 inch wheels. Bowers and Wilkins sound upgrade. Jaguar, you need to sort this dealer out because it doesn’t take much to turn customers away in this day and age, simple as that.
@grahamevans9606
4 жыл бұрын
Not good enough. Full Stop. I run a 2012 XF 2.2 Sport LE and I love it. So far in 2 years it has been faultless (touch wood)....and very economical.
@m9m2x3
4 жыл бұрын
Thanx a lot for this video. I was going to order one tomorrow and just decided to watch for any issues on youtube. That's it. I'll get a LEXUS
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair my issues were caused by an inattetentive dealer. After rattling their cage I got them to fix the issues and the car was right as rain afterwards
@THA6reat1
4 жыл бұрын
I am so disappointed. Not in Jaguar, but in thee mechanics. That's working for them. I am so pissed off for you. Because this is unacceptable. This is disappointing. Bcuz we know how much you love and take extra extra care. your Jaguars xf.. this is unbelievable. For you to go through all of this. now I see why people say that it's not reliable. It's not tha car It's tha people that works for jaguar I'm not saying everyone. ... But tha few bad apples that's making it bad for us. Dear friend, I hope And pray that everything works out for tha best for you. And you get this problem resolved. With no problem added ...
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend. I do hope so too. I'll only know in a few nail-biting weeks 😉
@THA6reat1
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan indeed now as far as myself. I miss and love. My 2010 Jaguar XF premium 5.0 I had accumulated 205,000 miles on that car. Thee only problem I had with my Jaguar is that my mass airflow sensors Were bad And my check tire pressure sensors were bad. N That's it... other than that my car was very reliable, but I decided To sell it to a family member and I went and got thee 2012 XF portfolio. And as far as interior wise it has everything that tha 2010 have. Just different body style. And I'm in love with this car. ...
@Reactor-hl9bc
4 жыл бұрын
Alpha KING2REAL Can I trust THE opinion of someone who can’t spell THE most common word in THE English language. LOL.
@THA6reat1
4 жыл бұрын
@@Reactor-hl9bc I spell words tha way they are sound not tha way I was taught how to spell them + I never said I was a mechanic I was jus sharing some of my experience with 1 of my favorite cars .. 🤔 Hmmmm interesting u mus be 1 of those shed Shady Tree mechanic's that like to rip customer's off ...
@Reactor-hl9bc
4 жыл бұрын
Alpha KING2REAL Hmmmm your explanation is bizarre as you used both thee and tha . Thee is an old English word meaning “you”. I have no idea what tha means. The word is “the”, always has been always will be. I am not a mechanic and did not suggest anywhere in my post that you were.
@GoogleAccount-vn8mu
4 жыл бұрын
I have had 2 brand new XFs and have found them to be excellent on the whole. The first one the Turbo blew after 3.5 years but Jag did a good will out of warranty replacement. The second one has been solid as a rock but the lesson is always have a dealer warranty with a jag cos things will go wrong. In the UK i can go to a number of dealers so if im not happy with one i will go to another. I am surprised to hear you say the old jag xf is better. I think the new one is far better. i would say an old XKR would be a fantastic choice though
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment there. Just this morning my mirrors wouldn't unfold when I opened the door. Started the car and they stayed closed. After five minutes I managed to get them to unfold. First time that's ever happened to me. My old XF was way more reliable and was double the age and four times the mileage. I accept that even new cars have issues and I'm not too bothered by the fact that things have gone wrong with it, but more the fact that the dealer doesn't seem to take fixing the issues seriously. I've been in contact with Jaguar head office and if they can't fix the troubles I've decided to sue the dealer to take the car back, less the miles I've put on it which is just 3,000kms since I bought it.
@GoogleAccount-vn8mu
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan I think actually showing them the dash cam footage might just spur them into action. On the subject of old xf vs new, I accept some of the interior materials are better on the old model, but overall i think the new one is a real step up especially in terms of driving. The new one just feels more solid and planted. It also refines and reigns in the styling a bit whilst managing to look sportier. I feel it would be a step back for you to go for an older model and at that point it might be time to give up on the XF. Honestly though, have a think about the XKR. They are very affordable, reliable and would certainly put a huge smile on your face.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
@@GoogleAccount-vn8mu You won't believe this, but I looked at an XKR. It's just not practical enough for my needs though. We getany guests from afar and to pick them up at the airport in a coupe won't go down well 😊. I need a 4 door sedan. I'm currently looking at a really nice XFR, old shape, with low mileage. But first I want to see if they can fix my X260. The X260 is lighter than the old car, hence the improved driving experience. It's all aluminum. The old car is heavier and one feels it. The suspension soaks the bumps up better, but with suspension knocks, I don't know.
@GoogleAccount-vn8mu
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan How about an XKR for you and an affordable second car for those occasions you might need extra space? ;) Im really trying to find a way to get you in that XKR cos I know you will love it and the truth is it is a very good daily driver. I think the XKR manages to be a head and heart choice. Back on the subject of your XF; with modern cars the truth is sometimes they don't know what is wrong with them and end up throwing parts at the problem until they fix it. You bought an approved used Jag by the sound of it and that might mean that the dealer has some liability for the cost of repairs as opposed to Jaguar HQ. Where i'm going with this is that the dealer you bought it from might be trying to wriggle out of it cos it has a cost implication for them. But dont be deterred, the reality is that with an official Jag warranty you still have all the same protections with a used Jag but you may need to fight that little bit harder. I think the dash cam footage going viral threat might just get them moving :)
@zakhassan
4 жыл бұрын
Im sorry to hear about your troubles. But these are the reasons i got rid of mine after a few months. It was a XF-S Portfolio 2015. The shape before yours. The paint and build quality were subpar. But what do you expect when most parts are Ford and the engine is Puegeot. Extremely over rated brand.
@AndrewKNI
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton. That is so disappointing about your XF and frustrating to have an 'indifferent' dealer. That is not a good advert for the Jaguar brand and I assume you can't go to another dealer? A 30% loss in 7 months seems bad, but I just calculated that my Tucson has lost 29% from 5 months old (when I bought it) and 17 months (age now). I now realise to minimise my loss I should have bought a 2+ year old Tucson but it will even out over the years. You have a beautiful car, so hopefully the garage will make it perfect again. If not, complain to Jaguar HQ.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Andy, I have communicated to Jaguar HQ and hopefully they will assist in sorting the niggles out. The main reason I bought a 2016 model is to have avoided the immense depreciation these cars suffer. As the owner of an SUV, you know more and more people are gravitating to SUV's so sedans are becoming extinct and people don't want them, thus the residual values on them just don't hold up. I knew this when I bought it and only expected a 15% drop in it's value between last year and now. Most new cars depreciate 40% in their first year and then around 15% per annum after that so over 5 years, it's reached rock bottom value-wise. However, I'm not quite there yet it seems :-D. The next month or so will determine what I do with this car and whether or not I get myself an older shape one with low mileage. Sometimes I think I should have stuck with the CX-5 ;)
@AndrewKNI
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan Perhaps the issues are akin to initial "teething problems" of a low mileage/nearly new car and it will be reliable thereafter. Hopefully Jaguar will rise to the occasion and confidence will return. With the rise of SUVs here it is now difficult to get a good looking saloon car. There are some lovely small/medium sized saloons in America which sadly we do not get because I know I would be tempted lol :-))
@kevinhodge9808
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton, i have an XF and i love watching your videos, i have learnt more about the JAG XF from you than the manual, thanks for the posts, Kevin UK ( not far from the Jaguar Factory) in Coventry
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Kevin ;)
@angie9241
3 жыл бұрын
So how is your XF ? Better quality? Because I am going to buy one Jag XF 2020 model. Any advice please? Thanks 🙏
@kevinhodge9808
3 жыл бұрын
@@angie9241 Hi Angie, mine replaced a Volvo S 80 which i loved, but the Jag is good, refined class, speed comfort low road noise, built with Quality, buy good tyres!!
@angie9241
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinhodge9808 Thank you Kevin , we did test drive yesterday with Jag ( white) XE 2020 collection, was very good ..we will try another one in black sometime this week Jag XF 2020 ... so we will see and hopefully something comes up very soon .... OMG , it’s not easy to buy a car , I am a lady , should be man’s job isn’t it ???? 😜😜I am so glad that to receive feedback from your guys .... 🙏🙏🙏
@peterdavies1060
Ай бұрын
Iv e a 2010 xf premium 3 litre .122.000 miles on clock .no problems yes ive had cambelt done .suspension bushes and other wear and tear bits still running great .
@vaibsdeeps
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Sounds like JLR dealer only your area doesn’t really care much about their own brand and customers. I wish you good luck finding another better jag for yourself and different dealer with it may be.
@timk.537
4 жыл бұрын
I'd be careful buying an older Jaguar XF in the expectation it has fewer issues than your current one. Logically speaking, that's a recipe for disappointment. Outside of major drivetrain issue, there's a greater probability of issues with door seals or strange rackets etc. Like you, I love jaguar and I'm on my 4th. Having had 3 of them with the 3.0L supercharger, I can say I haven't had any drivetrain issues. However, it's very well known that they're plagued with issues.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. Yep, I mentioned in my video that my heart is currently over-ruling my head as my head tells me to stick with the newer car with lower mileage, but having such a "new" car with so many issues and having had an older XF with fewer issues than this tells me the new XF was poorly designed and poorly built. Mercedes Benz went through a "poor quality" phase in the 2000's and learnt a hard lesson when sales started to dive. Jaguar know the XE and XF were bad from the start and have improved the XE with a comprehensive facelift. They're currently doing the same to the XF and the new XF facelift will debut soon - let's hope they address the quality of materials and parts used in the process.
@maz500
4 жыл бұрын
Shocked to hear about your experience. By contrast, the only issues I had with my 2017 model was the recall, a cracked wheel and a dodgy Bluetooth connection, but the service dept did the recall (and gave me a disco sport courtesy car), immediately updated the system (and gave me an EPace courtesy car) and they introduced me to a local wheel welder. So far no other problems occurred despite already being at 54k miles (86k+ kms)
@hoodboybarri
Жыл бұрын
Have more Problems appeared in these 2 years since the comment?
@maz500
Жыл бұрын
None, just a rear end collision
@hoodboybarri
Жыл бұрын
@@maz500 Do you have a Diesel One? I am looking to get a 2.0 Diesel 2016 XE with 100k km on it. From a Dealership. It is in really good condition on the inside as well on the outside. Which questions should i ask the seller? What should i look out for?
@maz500
Жыл бұрын
The service history and make sure that the timing chain issue has been fixed
@rcthomas6925
4 жыл бұрын
Bought a used xf 2015 2.0 with low miles .l enjoy it.
@daveawad007
3 жыл бұрын
Are they reliable. Thinking of getting one
@rcthomas6925
3 жыл бұрын
@@daveawad007 these were good years. You gonna love it.
@daveawad007
3 жыл бұрын
@@rcthomas6925 thanks mate. From which year onwards would you say there reliable from. Thanks again
@rcthomas6925
3 жыл бұрын
@@daveawad007 I would stop at 2016. No all wheel drive a. Either a 4 or and 8 cylinder. Start at 2013...forget about high mileage.
@1012.z
Жыл бұрын
I’m actually getting a Jaguar XF R Sport 25 AWD, and obviously I know it’s a double edge sword, but I’m sure the dealership I’m purchasing from has a good reputation, but I could be wrong. The car itself looks beautiful, it was barely driven, warranty still available, and I’m going to test drive it in 3 weeks or so. I was also sent a video of one of the guys from the dealership driving, and I’m looking forward to it.
@victorhershlag3849
Жыл бұрын
Im just about to buy an XF 2.2D and I'm delighted with your video... Yeah I heard that Jags after 2016 are not so reliable anymore... and tbh, the old models are way more beautiful.
@amardeep334
4 жыл бұрын
Creating British Leyland Nostalgia whilst charging a pretty Penny! Its a pity ! Ditto on all the Supercharger problems. Where is the supercharger located, underneath the 4.2 lit V8 engine. If you have Supercharger Air ducting issue or seal issues it becomes a massive issue. The coolant expansion tank and the supporting hardware can not handle the engine heat. The coolant level sensor will be the first to malfunction.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Luckily on my old XF the coolant reservoir replacement took care of the coolant level sensor as it's built into the tank. I did have a low coolant fake warning once just before I realized the bottle was cracked and leaking even though the level was between max and min, and that indicated to me that something was indeed wrong there. I'm glad I picked that issue up before the bottle exploded as it operates under immense pressure. The V6 can overheat very easily and coolant issues need to be addressed immediately. But that old XF still proved to be a reliable luxurious form of transport and I miss it still today.
@jonesjones7057
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. I think you got lucky though with your old one. We have an XF and it has been the least reliable car we've ever owned but that's not to say it is unreliable. It's just not AS reliable as our other cars. And of course, everything is a fortune to fix. I love Jags but I feel anyone considering one should know going in, that it will probably break 5 to even 10 times more often than a similarly priced Lexus. I'm not hating either. That's been my experience and that of a few others I know with Jags. They are awesome but reliability isn't their strongest trait.
@buffalosoldier19d42
4 жыл бұрын
If you want better service from your dealer then you should name them in one of your videos. Dealers hate bad reviews. Especially when you've got people around the world watching your videos. I'm in the US and they would hate it for me to know that they are not treating customers well. Next thing. It's good to see that you're an honest person. A dishonest person would sell the car to another person and let them deal with the problems. The good thing about buying a Jag is that you can get them cheap (used) because of the depreciation. The bad thing about the Jag is that same depreciation holds true when you go to sell it. One thing you might try is to take the car in and tell them you're going to wait for it. According to Jaguar, you'll go straight to next in line. Your car will not go to the end of the line. That way you can question them as soon as they're done. I found this out when I dropped my XF off the night prior, just to get the oil changed. 36 hours later and they hadn't even touched it. I thought that they'd wrecked it joy riding. When I went in to complain to the Service Manager she told me about Jaguars policy. I don't know why they even make appts.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
I might just do that ;)
@spin3635
4 жыл бұрын
We have the same problem here in the uk,had a turbo blow and had to go back to dealer 6 to 7 times for what i would call bad fitting issues and poor parts.i think jaguar have drop the ball some were...Now waiting on engine change.:(
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
OMG Nigel, that sounds awful. I hope you come right soon. Problem with an engine swap it reduces the residual value. This morning my mirrors wouldn't unfold when I unlocked the car. Now they're fine again. Very odd 😏
@ArthurBrinkman-c5z
4 жыл бұрын
You made the same mistake I did. I had an 03 S Type V8, it was a great car never any problems. So at 15 year's old and 157k miles I bought an XF. The worst POS I've ever owned. 1st was the water pump, then trunk latch, two fuel pumps, electrical problems, a $2,000+ computer. I'd spent thousands of dollars for repairs on the horrible car. Then at 84k miles and never overheating or getting hot it blew the head gasket. That came with a repair bill of $10,000 because not only was the head damaged so was the aluminum block. It would have required a new engine. Well F that! I got rid of it and bought a Lincoln MKS Eco-boost AWD sedan. A much nicer car much nicer ride and a lot of features that aren't on a Jaguar XF Supercharged V8 Portfolio Edition. Tata has ruined Jaguar "Piano Black" is Tata's fancy word for Cheap Black Plastic, never buy a Tata in Jag drag! The reason the shop is dragging thing's out is so your warranty period will expire! I took my car to Rusnick Jaguar Of Pasadena for a computer repair nobody else could do. The submitted over $12,000 for required repairs to my warranty company. I had the car checked at two different auto shops. They found nothing wrong with the car on the list. Including a $250 oil change and $95 for windshield wipers. I found out later the service reps and the mechanics receive a commission for everything they can add to the bill. Stay away from a Jaguar! It's a Tata!
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
I hear you Brian. I just love Jags design. They are beautiful to behold and not everybody drives one so they tend to turn heads where you go. I don't blame the car, I blame the dealer for their blaze' attitude towards my concerns. Yeah, you are right, they are dragging all this out so they can sell me an extended warranty or charge me cash for the repair. If they do the job under warranty, they have to charge Jaguar warranty rates which are 50% lower than retail rates because labor and parts are billed at cost - no profit for the dealer so they they don't want to do warranty jobs. It's bad for their numbers and targets. They're a bunch of plonkers in my eyes right now. They better get it right next time they have the car because that will be their last opportunity. I'll be going legal to force them to take the car back if they can't fix it. It's not such a complex thing to repair.
@ilkinmustafa9598
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton. I totally agree with you the old Jaguar XF 2014 is million times better than the new one. Mine is now 6 years old with 19000 miles and ya fully loaded. It even has a rare sunroof and I keep it in pristine condition. Unfortunately I have to sell due to the introduction of a low emissions zone around London otherwise I would have kept this car for ever. I won’t be buying a new xf but chances are I’ll buy a xj.
@user-uq7io2os3r
4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that struggle but what you expect from Jag on reliability front they better a bit only from RR which to fair point given its not reliable at all..if you are interested in reliability go Japanese or Korean..
@DocHicksTv
4 жыл бұрын
Hey, quick question as fast as the XF R sport , what years do you feel is the best year to buy? I'm hearing between 2009 and 2012 that those models were more reliable. Also do you have any recommendations on the XJR?
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
What's up Doc? 🤣 I test drove an XJR and it was awesome. If you ha e a garage big enough to store it then sure, get it. Same engine as the XFR and it's lighter thanks to its aluminum body. Just as fast. It wouldn't fit in my garage so I abandoned the idea and went for XFR. The 2009-2011 preface lift versions are just as good as the facelift, but I'd go for a 2019 and up as Jaguar sorted out many of the earlier gremlins by then thanks to their warranty data that showed which parts were problematic. These cars do suffer coolant leaks and super charger bearing failure which can be expensive to fix. When looking at one listen to the engine from from the front for any gargling noises which will indicate a/c bearing failure. Check the coolant reservoir that it's between min and max marks exactly. If it's low, there's a coolant leak. Good luck.
@simonclayton1148
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a 2017 XF and I’m a little disappointed with the build quality of it. The boot doesn’t open fully when you press the fob (it just clicks open); Jaguar told me it’s not supposed to but I’m convinced it is. I have a similar problem with my Bluetooth too, and last time mine went to Jaguar the 20” rims came back scuffed.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
@@simonclayton1148 sorry to hear Simon. Do you have the electric tailgate? The Bluetooth fix requires a software update. It fixed mine. The manual lifting tailgate should lift all the way. Could be the springs are tired. Yes, even on a new car the springs could be defective.
@rcthomas6925
3 жыл бұрын
2012 to 2016
@rcthomas6925
3 жыл бұрын
@@simonclayton1148 I am not down with xf after 2016. That's my point.
@paulbroderick8438
4 жыл бұрын
The aggravation is simply not worth it.
@christopherrosson1549
3 жыл бұрын
Admired the XF for years. Because of its very poor reliability reviews, I will stay with the Merc
@kevinhodge9808
3 жыл бұрын
Chris, i had a Volvo S80 for some years, when i bought the Jag XF i thought it would not be as good, pleasantly surprised, very comfortable no issues, regular oil changes looks brilliant and drives like a dream, Mercs are good, of course they are.
@christopherrosson1549
3 жыл бұрын
Kevin - thanks for your comments, interesting and "food for thought" - new 21 model looks brilliant, very tempting
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris, I think the important thing to take away from my video is that it was actually the dealer stuffing me around. They were incompetent. Not the car. I am full of sh*t when it comes to my cars and too much of a perfectionist, so everything must be perfect and they were not listening to me when I told them the 3 things that I found wrong with it - it did turn out to be bushings on the stabilizer bar that were worn because the car stood for 2 years without being driven in their storage before I bought it. Also, the a/c pipe was leaking at the filler nozzle and needed replacing - again, because the car stood too long and the a/c wasn't used during that time - the heat here is unforgiving so that seals perished. The bluetooth simply needed a software update and instead of them just doing the update, they got several people to connect their phones to the car, made calls and didn't experience it drop calls so they left it until I threw a tantrum in their showroom upon which they then got the car in for 3 days and sorted all the issues out at once. Generally, Jaguars are way more reliable these days than people give them credit and the only time you're likely to see a dealer is when it goes in for its annual service.
@marino4691
4 жыл бұрын
think about the 2012 XF 5.0, not the one with the supercharger. The naturally aspirated, 385HP, one. I got one of those
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
There are unfortunately not many of those on our roads. Scarce as hens teeth. If I do go back to the previous gen XF, it will be a facelift late model. I'm looking at 2014/2015 models but they all seem to be so damn good that their 1st owners have done over 170,000 km's on them before letting them go. And being out of warranty, anything could go wrong at that mileage.
@aarongdukey
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan go after market warranty
@bender007123
4 жыл бұрын
Mate I am so sorry to heat about all this trouble you are having.As you recall I have the exact same car and model.I can only say this:All cars and it does not matter what make have problems,I am a bit older than you are and had more cars than you I have discovered that each car has its personality and same as people not all persons are the same .... Seems like your present one has a bit of a twist to it and it would be wise to let it go. I wish your next one will be of a better personality and temper ;)
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ofer, I'm sure I'll see light at the end of the tunnel before the end of the month.
@bender007123
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan I am sure you will.....
@pauledmonds3249
2 жыл бұрын
The usual south african personality bypass. Fell asleep after 30 seconds with the monotone drone.
@carfanfan
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I'll try and talk with more inflection.
@philf5043
Жыл бұрын
I realise this is an old thread .The knock you describe is imo usually a faulty shock absorber. Had very similar on my Volvo V70. Jaguar are progressively shooting themselves in the foot with reliability issues and worse than that thrir arrogant attitude towards customers. The Mk 2 XF (2016 on) is rubbish compared to the Mk1 and Mk1 Facelift models. Have you had any issues with the Ingenium engine yet ? Good luck and hope you get sorted.
@carfanfan
Жыл бұрын
It turned out that the stabilizer bar bushings were worn. On a car with just 10k miles on it - shocking. But they were replaced and knock resolved.
@dianamassaria8421
4 жыл бұрын
Can 2013 get an update to the entertainment system? I did not find your new video.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Jag for some strange reason used two different systems. The Harman and Bose. Not sure one you have but it's possible you have the newer version. You can tell by the 3D look to the GUI, that's the newer version.
@JoePineappless
4 жыл бұрын
That's a real pity, and a disgrace, thank god not all dealers are like this but dealers are dealers at the end of the day, I think most people have had some issues, mine was with a Fiat Bravo making a grinding sound when turning left (or was it right?) anyways, turned out to be a catastrophic gearbox failure, luckily for me I'd returned the car by then, but by pure "luck" someone living quite near had bought it. I passed it every day on my trip to work until one day I noticed a courtesy car on their drive, nosily I knocked on the door and explained I'd owned the car so that's how I found out about its problem. I count myself lucky on that but was incredulous that they had re-sold it without repair...…...but then its a money game isn't it? Anyways, sorry for the rant, but I sincerely hope it gets sorted and you don't leave Jaguar ownership.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jeff - that's an interesting story. Lucky for you, you returned the car. Unlucky for your neighbor, he bought it :-D. I will be in contact with Jaguar head office about this as well and hopefully the dealer will be reprimanded for this.
@HussainMubeen
4 жыл бұрын
Glad i own the previous gen Jag XF as apposed to the new ones. Atleast those were built with a built more passion. The current XF are built with serious corners cut.
@dontuno
4 жыл бұрын
Really sorry to hear about the troubles. Be very careful if the dealer suggests, "a stone has punctured the AC condenser". This is the misinformation they will spout when in reality Jaguar are believed to have supplied a goodly number of cars with duff condensers. Clearly no amount of re-gassing is going to solve that problem! Reality is it will need a new condenser and then a re-gas. The Jaguar XE site is littered with owner’s dire experiences and I have to say I sold my 2015 XE and bought a 2014 XF which I have to say is a far superior car. Grieves me to say it but I think Jaguars quality control has failed an awful lot of owners of the XE and new XF.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the headsup BC. I can guarantee you if they try and blame the condenser issue on me, they'll have my wrath on their hands. The A/C didn't work from the moment I drove it off the lot and they told me they fixed it. So if it now turns out to be the condenser, they'll fix it at their own cost if Jaguar doesn't want to warrant it. I do recall reading in the forums back in 2017 already of XE and new XF A/C issues, but can't seem to find the posts now. I told the dealer too last week that the Forums were full of people complaining about bad A/C on the new XF and XE's. You did the right thing mate, buying a 2014 XF. It will serve you well and think about, Jaguar had from 2007 to sort out most of the annoying niggles out by then. Never buy a car that comes out new in it's first year of release - warranty claims sky-rocket at manufacturers each time they bring out a new car.
@dontuno
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan Hi Hilton, try this link for starters and trust me there is considerably more related comment elsewhere on the XE site. www.xeforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4708&hilit=ac+condensor&start=50
@hawaiianmalibu9643
4 жыл бұрын
Hilton I’m taking my jag to the dealership safety recall Air bag
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chad, what year model do you have?
@hawaiianmalibu9643
4 жыл бұрын
20 ten xf portfolio
@hawaiianmalibu9643
4 жыл бұрын
Also needs transmission fluid and oil change . Any suggestions
@lukebuchanan9857
2 жыл бұрын
I had vibrations in my xf... was the wheels being out of round and front control arms. I had hit some bad pot holes which must have worsened it.
@andreerasmus9257
4 жыл бұрын
Get the dealer principal involved, the idiot must be fired, just wirte on the jobcard you checked the suspension etc. Where in your life...
@winniedog2510
3 жыл бұрын
2 tricks to owning any JLR vehicle. Make sure you live near the dealer and have access to a second car. Good luck, you'll need it
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
LoL yeah, it certainly was the case with this car. However, in its defence, the dealer was the cause of most of its trouble. I bought it from them, it had been a demo vehicle and they clearly didn't do a proper PDI before they delivered it to me. Surely they would have picked up those 3 issues I had with it. But after taking it back time after time for the same niggles they still didn't sort them out until I started getting upset and voicing my unhappiness to management. After that, they sorted everything out and the car was amazing. I just didn't like the 2L engine as the turbo lag was horrendous so I sold it and bought and XFR. The XFR is much older than this car and has been so reliable it only ever goes in for services. Mechanically, its such a trooper and has surprised me immensely.
@e117f
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hilton I just got a 2017 Jaguar xf 2.0 Diesel canadian model a couple months ago im loving it so far its my first jag its got 45,000km do you think I should get rid of it? I just got it so id like to keep it until atleast 100,000km but if these newer ones are troublesome it might be a good idea to get rid of it now
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Rav, I don't think you should get rid of it. If you are enjoying the car and its reliable, keep it. I've seen some with over 100,000km's already and they seem to be doing just fine. My problem is actually more dealer related and not so much car related. I should have pointed out that my car stood for a full year without being driven and that could be why the a/c seals got hard and leaked. Could also be the reason the stabilizer bar bushes become stretched. These cars like to be driven. I've spoken to many owners of older XF's with high mileage and they've barely had any issues due to the fact they get driven a lot. Mine stands in the garage for two or three days at a time because I work from home, so it also needs to be driven more often. Keep you car, I'm sure it will prove to be reliable in the long term.
@90038Tesla
3 жыл бұрын
fan motor assembly, notorious on all jags
@jasonearley1872
2 жыл бұрын
The amount of avoidance and lies I've had from JLR dealers (UK) is shocking from where I bought it, to the local dealer that did the servicing & warranty work - after trying to avoid doing said warranty work and charging for work based on their lies then eventually doing the work.. I think JLR doesn't help their dealerships and has bad relationships with them - in the UK they were forced to build these mega showrooms so the dealers are desperately trying to recover costs,... still, they missed the point of customer service... The stuff I reported that they clearly knew related to timing chain issues with the early inGenium engines but never ever admitted it .. I will never deal with any of them again.. I still have my X260 XF but I use an independent specialist now , official parts, much lower costs and no B'crap - the car is great and I'm attached to it - just a shame about the dealer networks.
@emperor002002
3 жыл бұрын
I would have contacted Jaguar of America and reported them. Something similar happened to me with Mercedes and that's what I did and the shop straighten their act out immediately.
@skilgour44
Жыл бұрын
Why Jaguar of South America? He lives in South Africa.
@jaimesam3544
4 жыл бұрын
Estaría genial traducir los vídeos al Español.......👍👍👍🔧🔧🔧👍👍
@infinitidriver7896
4 жыл бұрын
I just replaced the engine today on a 2009 XF v8 4.2 I purchased was pretty easy I’m doing catalytic converters delete😂 jag with no cats
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
LoL. A cat with no cats 😅. I bet it's going to sound awesome
@inspiringgrillingcookingtr6821
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I had the same issue with the Bluetooth on my xe 2017. They blame it on Jaguar. They also said it was Android and not Apple devices that were having the issue. I think the last update worked for me.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
They told me the same, but also said my car has the latest software already installed 😔
@Formulozza1
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan have you got the InControl Pro system?
@matthew4659
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Hilton, I just viewed a 2013 XF (ok, X250 in your world) in the premium trim, not an R or Sport trim. But strangely, it had the side fascia of a XFR trim and the rear spoiler. It also had a 2 tone (red and gray) interior! Have you ever seen that? The side fascia and spoiler we’re not an option on the premium trim for that year I don’t think. . And this particular XF also had much newer year rims mounted on it, which by the way looked great. AND it was a beautiful “liquid silver!” And the best of all, it had ONLY 24K miles!!! A 2013 XF! I sent an email to the dealership for the CARFAX. I may have found my new baby!! She looked really sexy and FAST!!
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
hey Matthew, that particular XF is very rare. There were options to option them with "sport" bumpers where the front bumper looks a little more XFR than standard, but not quite XFR. The side sills were also larger and it did indeed come with two tone seats. I haven't seen red and grey, but I've seen red and black, red and beige and beige and black. There are only two for sale in South Africa currently, but they are both 3L diesels. This trim option was available on any engine derivative. If you can get this one, get it. It will be a rare gem indeed. Good luck!
@-JonnyBoy-
4 жыл бұрын
i see the main issue is its sitting 2 inches too high on the back and 1.8 inch to high on the front.
@ricardojc
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton Just about to buy a 2017 XF (2.0 L) with 147.000 km. As you are one of the biggest authority on the subject, is there any issue I should lookout for? I’m a bit concerned with the timing chain. Could you please help? Thanks
@carfanfan
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Ricardo - only seen your comment now. If you're concerned about the timing chain, have it done. These motors are unfortunately not very reliable. Jaguar has changed a few things on them. One would have thought they'd learned from the 5L V8 timing chain plastic guides issue from years ago, but nope. They quietly upgraded them to metal guides are thousands of failures - out of warranty. The diesel isn't any better unfortunately. If you really want a good engine, you should have tried to get a 3L V6 s/c or a V6 diesel - older engines, but tried and tested ;)
@bluemoonpanther6337
4 жыл бұрын
The knocking isn't coming from the suspension ... It's coming from the AC compressor
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, but that doesn't make sense. Why would the compressor knock when I go over bumps at low speed?
@ioancorbu7480
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan I had that type of noise/knocking when the spring was cracked and about to break(with a big boom noise)
@ioancorbu7480
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan I was about to buy an 2018 XF sportbrake with very low mileage, 17000km, but reading this coments and watching your video makes me stay away from it :(
@mjackson9067
3 жыл бұрын
17mins?
@MohammedAlfaauri-xu8ug
7 ай бұрын
Hey, I was looking at 2016 Jaguar XF 35T prestige. What would you recommend me looking out for and what should i be aware of on it. The car is fairly low Km only 89k on it. Thanks for you opinion.
@carfanfan
7 ай бұрын
Mine only had 16k on the clock and I still had issues. A 35t, is that the V6? I've lost track of their names and engines. But definitely check the cooling system for leaks. Also when test driving check for knocks from the suspension. If you hear any knocks it's most likely the bushes on the stabilizer bar. Bluetooth doesn't stay connected for long and drops calls if it works at all. When test driving take it on the freeway and do at least 70mph to check for vibration. If there's vibration those low profile wheels are buckled. Check the ac is blowing ice cold. The high pressure return valve can soring a leak over time and the ac won't blow cold anymore. Check the electrical wires under the hood as they aren't covered with protective conduit from engine heat and the wires become brittle and break open. At that mileage it should have had a transmission oil change. Check that thos was done. It's an 8 speed ZF transmission and they are pretty robust, but if not serviced, the filter clogs up and shifts become clunky or it will go into neutral when stopping at traffic lights. That's about it 😉
@MohammedAlfaauri-xu8ug
7 ай бұрын
@@carfanfan Thanks for your reply. With all of that information or if there was any of those problems going on. Most likely I’ll me facing even for down the road. What would you recommend as an alternative car, in that similar field. Thanks again appreciate your time
@carfanfan
7 ай бұрын
@MohammedAlfaauri-xu8ug to be honest, any luxury competitor is going to have its issues. Audi A6, Merc E Class, Lexus IS, BMW 5 series, they all have issues. You would probably be better off buying an older XF X250 shape with low mileage. A 2014 or 2015 model. They were solidly built had little to no issues and at the end of their life cycle Jaguar had by then sorted out the very few issues those cars had when they came out in 2007. That's why I bought an old Audi A6 now. It's a 2008 model and by then, Audi had sorted all the warranty issues out with their suppliers and improved reliability. But if I had to go back to Jag, it would be a 2015 model with low miles.
@MarkJVSomers
3 жыл бұрын
65000 miles isn't exactly high mileage, and if it the car thinks it is, it's not a very good car.
@Knightlysander_06
2 жыл бұрын
Hi brother Just wanted to know if you have come across this device . It’s in my back bonnet inside . I have a pic also if u wanna c . The device has two slot sim and a spanner type symbol.
@carfanfan
8 ай бұрын
I have no idea. What year model you got?
@peterbaker9673
4 жыл бұрын
You should sell it. and buy a nice series 3 jag.
@kevinconnor9414
3 жыл бұрын
Looking for a bit of help . I have an XF 2016 3.0V6 Diesel . The suspension I have felt hard since day 1 . So a month ago I reduced the tyre pressure from 36psi to 29psi . A lot more comfortable for a short time . Now the car is back to being brick hard and judders over bumps and can feel the road surface through the car . Adaptive suspension doesn’t seem to do anything . I wondered is it possible the car is stuck in firm mode ? HELP 🙈
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kev. I had a similar issue with my XFR. It stood for 2 years prior to me buying it and the adaptive dampers were rock hard. I asked Jaguar to replace all 4 shocks but they came back saying there was nothing wrong with them. They disconnected the battery for a few hours and it somehow reset them. Now they act like they should. My car is nice and soft at town speeds and the moment I get over 60mph they stiffen up and I can feel it's firmer on highways. If you have adaptive suspension, give it a try. You got nothing to lose 😉.
@kevinconnor9414
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hilton I will try that !
@kevinconnor9414
3 жыл бұрын
Help , I’ve shut the boot and can’t find a key slot to open it 2016 is different to 2014 . It was raining heavily
@kevinconnor9414
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Hilton , do you know there is not one post on the internet showing you how to get into the boot of the X260 if you disconnect the battery and shut the boot . Jump leads to the jumper points under the bonnet and quickly press the boot release button seems the only way or remove the back seats . Now there’s a video you could make
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinconnor9414 Thanks Kevin, great idea. Unfortunately I sold my X260 when I bought the XFR. Two Jags in my garage? Hashtag maintenance costs :D I need to do some research on the X250 as many people seem to be lost on how to access the trunk without the key. It's never happened to me, but if you close the trunk with the key in it, the trunk will automatically pop open as it senses the key is there. So it's an odd one.
@Randyolsson
2 жыл бұрын
Why did you sell the old XF?
@carfanfan
2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I keep asking myself that. I was an idiot for letting it go.
@Randyolsson
2 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan We all make mistake, good thing is there are plenty of them out there, but it's getting harder to find good examples. Really enjoy the videos, thanks!
@jeremydubois4797
3 жыл бұрын
One other issue that he failed to mention... they put the steering wheel on the wrong side of the car. After spending so much on a car, one would expect them to know where the steering wheel goes. I own a 2012 XF Portfolio. Absolutely beautiful car and is powerful and fast, but it has tons of minor problems and electrical gremlins. And now, at only 60k miles, it is developing what sounds like a lifter tick in the engine. Oh, and i also have that slight thumping/bumping noise somewhere in the front drivers side suspension. This is my second Jaguar... I don't know that I will ever buy another one. You can get a much cheaper car with all the same creature comforts as Jaguars for far less cost. - It just won't look as pretty.
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
Have the front stabilizer bar bushings checked. Mine had failed and that caused the knocking noise.
@cerendemir6435
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm Ali from Switzerland, my vehicle is 2016 model xf no navigation, how can I install it?
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend installing the Unique Auto Developments Android Auto/CarPlay box which links to your OEM unit. Easy to install and take care of your maps for good! unique-ad.co.uk/product/wireless-carplay-interface-for-jaguar-f-pace-2016-2018/
@cerendemir6435
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan Thank you for your advice so do you have a video for us to make the back taillight white
@urielgomez8881
3 жыл бұрын
What year xf do you have
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
This one was a 2016 model. I don't have it anymore. I have an XFR now.
@muhjm1946
Жыл бұрын
These Jags are notoriously problematic. Things are going to fail and the dealers will give you the run around. They will lie and lie. If there was a jail for lying they would be at the front of the line.
@NichoTBE
Жыл бұрын
These cars sound like a nightmare. I just got one lol.
@carfanfan
Жыл бұрын
They are actually good cars. The dealer was the problem.
@NichoTBE
Жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan You had a lot of problems with your car that needed to go to the dealer in the first place tho. And my manufacturer recall sheet is pretty long, which is never a good sign.
@carfanfan
Жыл бұрын
@NichoTBE to be fair, the car stood for two years while they depreciated it off their books to sell it for half price. So I got a bargain. After the suspension knock and ac issue was finally sorted the car was pretty reliable. It had the uprated 2l turbo so it was super fast and quiet. But the bad roads caused me to buckle the wheels which caused vibration. I don't know why they jnsist on putting such huge wheels with low profile tires on all sedans. Thos is why people moved to SUVs. In the 80s and 90s cars had high profile tires and one could pretty much go anywhere without worrying about damaging a wheel or tire. Manufacturers and car reviewers are to blame for the death of the sedan due to this very issue.
@NichoTBE
Жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan Yeah big wheels and low profile tyres look good on a sedan that's why. The manufacturers just assume the roads will be of sufficient quality or you would be buying a SUV or Truck. Anyway I hope I have good luck with this car, those service costs you posted are no joke, you spent more on repairs than I did on my car lol.
@cruisertechgt
4 жыл бұрын
You need to stop going to this dealership. After this visit I would recommend not even giving them any more of your time or efforts to give them a chance. I had similar issues with couple of my dealerships and I gave them chances like u and continued to go back. Overtime they will do more mistakes and waste ur time by not fixing shit. You have to find the best dealership even if it takes you 30-60 minutes to drive there. I have a dealership I can trust now. Contact JLR corporate customer service and tell them what happened the fact that u have proof on video would be interesting on what the corporate will do. I contacted JLR North America by email and they were helpful even called me and ensured I was happy with the service. They Paid for my rental.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend. Yeah, I'm honestly considering taking it elsewhere. They have ordered the parts, so it has to go back (if I ever receive a call from them). They said 10-14 days, so if I don't have a call within the next two weeks, I'll be taking it to another Jag dealer which is indeed much further away but hopefully the service there will be better. Their loan car policy also sucks. The dealer where I used to live in Port Elizabeth was amazing - they'd even drop their car off at my house and take my car to be serviced and then drop my car off and take theirs back again and I lived 45 mins from them. They always listened intently to my complaints and took everything I said seriously. I fell in love with my Jag because of them. Now the experience has sort of ruined the car for me. Let's hope they can fix both my opinion of them as well as my car ;)
@IxxxMnMxxxI
3 жыл бұрын
just subscribed, hope Jag will fix your car issues soon if not already, I would call them teething problems, low mileage newer cars are generally more reliable than older high mileage cars...rest is obviously head vs heart. just watched your p1 to 5 bet you didn't know vids, found them informative, thumbs up (from the land of Jag)
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Jaguar fixed all the issues I had after I spoke with the service manager and their quality manager. They kept the car for a few days and sorted everything out to ensure I was happy. The service advisor was the route cause because he wasn't checking that the work was done right. I deal with a different service advisor now and he knows all too well that when I book my car in, it better be perfect :D
@quazali4181
3 жыл бұрын
what song is being played in the background ?
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
At what time in the video?
@quazali4181
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan the very first song 😇
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
@@quazali4181 the song is a KZitem provided song which is copyright free from their music for content providers section. Not sure who the composer is but the song is called "It ll be alright"
@quazali4181
3 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Much appreciated 💫
@shadowjohn2266
3 жыл бұрын
what model was your old xf
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
It was a 2.0 25t R-Sport
@shadowjohn2266
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan what year model was your old xf
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
@@shadowjohn2266 2016
@shadowjohn2266
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan cool thanks
@mohamadalruby2153
Жыл бұрын
Dont buy the 3 lter models … he said… 2.2 litre is the one to go for
@marino4691
4 жыл бұрын
what car would you consider to buy?
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
I've shortlisted a few 2L petrols but also mostly interested in the 3.0L superchaged. I've driven a couple already and am impressed with the power and weight of the car. It's just perfectly balanced.
@grammic4053
3 жыл бұрын
you should get an xj
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
I sold this and got and XFR ☺️
@algail44
4 жыл бұрын
I have driven Jags for 50 years and the XF is the worst piece of shit I have ever owned it is definitely my last jag. I had a dreadful experience one day when the car locked in a low gear and I couldn’t change gear or stop the engine. I had to weave in and out of traffic at 99ks per hour fortunately on a motorway for a couple of Ks before I manged to stop the car. Had this happened in a suburban street someone would have died in a collision. I called the jag agent , not interested. I wrote to jaguar in England, not interested no reply. A couple of days later an advert from jaguar. I wrote to them “ Interesting how you couldn’t get off your fat arse and reply to a life threatening incident but and advert is OK “. Now they replied and they arranged for the local agent to have a look at the car. The problem was a low battery so keep you eye on your battery levels. The XF did not show in anyway that the battery was low. Next as per usual in a jaguar in a hot climate the roof lining fell off. Normally this is not a huge problem to fix but in the XF a whucking nightmare. The windscreen and the rear backlight have to be removed to repair the lining. If you do this on a hot day the windscreen WILL break. Fortunately I had a guy fix mine with more than one brain cell he left the car in a cool place overnight and removed the screens first thing while it was cool when it wouldn’t break so bear that n mind when your roof lining falls off. Every Jag I have owned the roof lining has fallen off. Jaguar have been told they are using the wrong foam and the wrong glue but thy will not change. I know the they are using the wrong glue and foam because once repaired the lining has never dropped again.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
I was watching Wheeler Dealers dream cars this weekend and they had an old XJ sport and lo and behold, the roof lining had sagged on that one too. Audi's tend to do that as well.
@steveharper9814
4 жыл бұрын
Should have stuck with your previous 1st version me thinks...
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
You said it Steve - I kick myself day for being an idiot.
@steveharper9814
4 жыл бұрын
Hilton - I love my 2011 V6 diesel. I’ve half heartedly looked to replace it but it hasn’t caused me any trouble. I worry companies are making far too many modern adjustments new versions nowadays. Hope you get it sorted soon.
@jefftrester4021
2 жыл бұрын
Dont ever buy a jaguar they are the worst cars I've ever owned im 59 and have had over 100 cars and trucks I've heard people complain about there Japanese cars making wind sounds coming in side windows at 120 mph and that was the big complain!!! They need to buy a jaguar then they would have something to complain about. I love having a $600 a month car note and then have to play a $1000 to $ 5000 service bill that's right. Just go look on line at junk yards with jaguar xf xj with just fender dents and they total them out cost more to fix.. They are worse then owning a boat.
@fatdadfit6022
4 жыл бұрын
You shouldn't have to put up with all this rubbish. Terrible service.
@alacubalena78
4 жыл бұрын
that's why i fix it myself))))))
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
I would if it was out of warranty.
@peterh4761
Жыл бұрын
Jags are crap sadly. As are range rovers now. Owned by an Indian company who make them as cheaply as possible. Dont knkw anyone who has had one recently without huge issues. Ps 66000 miles is not enough to be having massive trouble.
@carfanfan
Жыл бұрын
I must say, I'm pissed they discontinued the sedans. XjlJ, XF, and XE could have competed with Lucid's Air as electric models, but they decided to kill them. Big mistake, HUGE.
@sofiantounsi
4 жыл бұрын
Scotty be like endless money pit peace of crap! Get your self a Toyota! Lol
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
LoL Eew! Toyotas are so pedestrian. A dime a dozen. I've gone back to the older model of XF and it has proven to be way more reliable than this car. It was probably a Monday car.
@dannyw13
4 жыл бұрын
get rid of it dude, Jag has gone down hill big time
@georgewee1227
4 жыл бұрын
You review cars? And u go out and buy a Jag??
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
In my defense, my previous XF was the most reliable car I'd ever owned, so I had faith in Jaguar.
@georgewee1227
4 жыл бұрын
You are one of the lucky few. All my mates who have owned Jags, all have nothing good to say about them. Never again the common answer. Most of us into Lexus now. Awesome after sales service.
@zsb707
3 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan My experience with the X250 XF (2014) 2.2 is also very good. I bought it in 2019 and have been really pleased with it ever since. Another Jag in the future? Maybe an X260 LCI XF.
@jimkai5413
4 жыл бұрын
Change the title to “ my jaguar dealer troubles” crap review
@Jon-zj2nj
4 жыл бұрын
Dimitrios Kaimenopoulos Indeed. Brickbats need to be aimed carefully!
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
While i'm having issues with the dealer, the car itself is plagued by issues. The dealer didn't cause the suspension issue nor the a/c issue. They were caused by faulty parts or design. On Saturday morning, my mirrors wouldn't unfold for some odd reason - not a dealer problem, Jaguar problem.
@mattkemp3727
3 жыл бұрын
looks like you are green screened into a car !
@carfanfan
3 жыл бұрын
LoL really? Okay, I wish I knew how to do that otherwise I'd be at some tropical island sipping pina coladas :D
@keithlarson7337
5 ай бұрын
boring boring buy a nearly new one .less probs all high milers reguardless of make
@carfanfan
3 ай бұрын
This car only had 10k miles on it so all the issues were shocking for such a low mileage car.
@Docante1
4 жыл бұрын
Learn how to work on cars yourself
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
The point with this car is that it is under warranty, so I'm not allowed to touch it mechanically. Jaguar will void my warranty. The dealer is bound by Jaguar's franchise rules to fix and repair their products and they need to do this to my satisfaction. So I'm married to the dealer until the warranty ends in December and they are dragging their heels waiting for it to expire so that they can sell me an extended warranty, which I wouldn't buy because they didn't do much while it was in warranty any way.
@theoracle2877
4 жыл бұрын
Buy a Lexus... All problems solved!!👍🏻
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
LOL - no thanks, Lexus have their issues too. In my life I've had VW, Toyota, Audi, Cadillac, Chevrolet and they all had their problems. These Jaguar troubles were mostly caused due to the dealer being inefficient in sorting them out the first time.
@theoracle2877
4 жыл бұрын
JagFan Hilton . Name me one major documented problem with Lexus that they haven’t been able to correct? Jaguars are riddled with faults ( engine failure being one) If your life depended on the reliability of your car ! Would you choose a Jag or a Lexus?
@zsb707
3 жыл бұрын
@@theoracle2877 I'd choose a Jaguar over a Lexus for the style, sportiness and heritage. I'd take it despite its poorer reliability ...
@theoracle2877
3 жыл бұрын
@@zsb707 / LOL......
@zsb707
3 жыл бұрын
@@theoracle2877 What's funny, dude?
@imohpius8956
4 жыл бұрын
Xf has been problematic for a long time,xj is better of good car.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the new XF has been problematic, but the older one, built and designed in the same era as the current XJ, was very reliable. Both were influenced by Ford ownership at the time and they built cars solid and tough - but since TATA took over, all the new cars are i-phones on wheels. Not good for them. It will take them a decade to realize their mistakes just like it did Mercedes Benz in the 2000's when quality was sacrificed for quantity. Jaguar are trying to grow too fast and that can lead to crashing and burning like the Hindenburg.
@herodeniro8167
4 жыл бұрын
I got a 2011 Xf and I wanted to buy a 2018 Model but now I am scared of it 😅 and U do great videos greetings from Germany ✌🏽
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure they've fixed all the niggles on the 2018 models. Mine is the first batch they built so a few problems are to be expected 😉
@gordongreen5623
4 жыл бұрын
It’s upsetting to hear how your dealership is treating you. I’ve only had my Jag F Pace a little over a year, picked it up with 26,000 Km. on the clock. It has the supercharged V6, simply love the performance and handling. Had the car in for a servicing last Oct wherein they also upgraded the infotainment at N/C. A couple of days later, I got a call from the service agent to make sure I was happy, asking me, on a scale of 1 - 10 how did she do? Then exclaimed that if she didn’t get 10, wanted to know what she could do to make it a 10. A few days later I received an email from the dealership wanting to make sure I was happy with them and asked me to fill out questionnaire. Two weeks later, Jaguar Canada sent me a questionnaire wanting to know if I was happy with the service I had received, what I liked and didn’t like about the model, and what I would change. I thought this treatment was because I was new to the brand, but no. I had the car in for warranty work on the all wheel drive system and I also noted that I felt a very slight vibration through the pedals and the floor on and off. It was so slight and inconsistent that I thought they’re not going to be able to replicate it to find the problem. They had the car for a week while I drove their discovery. The end result was that the front wheel drive pump actuator was faulty and the vibration problem was fixed. I asked what was causing the vibration? He said they replaced the front right wheel bearing. I stated on car with so few miles, I never would have even thought of a wheel bearing. He stated neither did the Mechanic, he only found it by putting the car on the hoist with it in gear and went around all four wheels with a stethoscope and probe. I was impressed. In the end, same as before, every level of Jaguar wanted to know if I was happy with the service. Short answer, oh yeah. Any way, Hilton, I hope things start to go better for you. If not, suggest they contact Jaguar Canada and Langley JLR in British Columbia to find out how to keep customers truly satisfied. Cheers.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gordon. Seems like you've had your fair share of issues with your F-Pace, but as I said to the Service Manager, I understand things will go wrong, it's how they address it that matters most to me. I'm giving them a 3rd chance to fix the issues and also to redeem themselves. I feel vindicated that they now admit there is a knocking sound from the suspension and that they've found which components are causing it. Hopefully it will fix that issue for once and for all. The AC I suspect is the compressor leaking. They have dye in the system now and will check it next time it comes in. Customer service is paramount to me at any car dealer, but with a Jaguar, you expect a little more. I've been contacted by Jaguar South Africa and will be giving them information on my experience - hopefully that will make a difference too.
@thomaswilding8818
4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to find a mechanic who will take the time to diagnose a problem. They just want to replace parts and charge big bucks. I had similar problems with the Toyota service here. I've just gone back to working on the car myself.
@geordieboy5679
4 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked that a jaguar dealer has been so indignant on how they have treated you in the faults that you reported. I would say contact Jaguar directly tell them the issues you have had
@indjanek
4 жыл бұрын
I did the same when my car was leaking coolant, I complaied to JLR and they arranged spare rental JAG for me for the time of repair - dealer wanted to charge me for that. Cheers.
@paulmckeown8840
4 жыл бұрын
I have the XF 3 litre diesel high mileage never a problem with anything apart from a battery And a window regulator here’s hoping for another relatively trouble free year
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
If you have an X250, I'm not surprised you've had no troubles with it. They are solid cars.
@Alanthemole
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had to have a new window regulator on two of the three Xf ‘s. that I’ve owned .
@zenferg
4 жыл бұрын
What year was your other Jag? I mean something is wrong with the dealership.THIER SERVICE IS TERRIBLE AND IT SEEMS lIKE THEY JUST DONT GIVE A F not even about the warranty..I have a 2014 X F Portforlio only one issue I had with it.I down shifted way to low on the paddle shifter and it somehow loosed a wire to the fuel pump that caused a short.Its a great ride and fun I still have it.Not as a daily driver.I have a Very reliable beater with around 300000 K miles that runs like new.(Nissan Xerra).But I only take the Jag out to treat myself every once in Awhile..Sorry about that one...Get in touch with Jaguar and put the Dealership on blast.
@carfanfan
4 жыл бұрын
My old XF was a 2009 model and I sold it in 2019 much to my own disgust. I regretted selling it the moment it drove out my driveway knowing I'd never see it again. The 1st gen XF's are solid cars.
@zenferg
4 жыл бұрын
@@carfanfan Yes.Another issue I have with my 2012.I did get a good deal without a warrenty.Remember Ford owned it.And I whould not be surprised if most of all the tooling for build is still used and Tata is smart to know not to change anything to thiers... All suspensions are basic and easy to work on with a little study and elbow grease.And the more you learn about auto repair the more fun it is.The first time I changed the oil on my Jag after studying how.(And saving two hundred plus dollars)I was proud and thought how cool it was.Ford had some issues with the rubber used it's fair but it was a problem with how long it lasts.With the suspension.(Strut mounts).The rubber.Thats only on one side ,Also on my drivers side issue is the lower control arm is not good (Drivers side) U.S. When I hit 55 to 60 MIles per hour i get a little shudder.The squeak from the strut mount was solved with some armour all.(Armour all has minute amount of petroleum in it that acts as a lubricant.(slick)but not enough as a wd forty that will disintegrate rubber after awhile.its a good idea to spray some on your motor mounts and any rubber you see under the car suspensension.With mine i think the previous owner hit a pot hole.But i do love learning about the cars mechanics.Fun to me.Look for some in U.S.Hilton.(In the southern states)Northern U S cars may have rust issues even if not seen.Cheers
@tonyford7987
4 жыл бұрын
Jaguar dealers are full of bullshit ! That car can be upgraded to android auto. Do a forum search.
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