kevin cheveldayoff should be top 3 for the Gregory award. PLD trade, Scheifele and Hellebuyck contracts, Brossoit signing and the Monahan, Toffoli trades. All were huge to get the Jets to where they are now
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
Fuck you're probably right idk why I forgot him
@bzhouka9679
28 күн бұрын
hedman deserves shouts for norris he was unreal this season
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
One thing I forgot to mention: You’ll often hear how Kucherov leads his team in points by 54 vs MacKinnon only 36 which is very impressive! However I do think it’s a little misleading considering Tampa has Point (90), Stamkos, (81), Hedman (76) and Hagel (75) vs the Avs it’s Rantanen (104), Makar (90) then Drouin ALLLLLL the way down at 56.
@trevorconnatser6161
28 күн бұрын
But Kuch doesn’t play in a line with Hagel, Stamkos, and Duclair at the same time and he’s not always on the ice with Hedman. His only consistent line mate was Point, and the others switched out throughout the season. He even played a game with Connor Sheary who has less than 5 goals on the season, and Sheary had a 2 point night when he hadn’t scored for months. You simply can’t make the argument that MacKinnon was more important to his team than Kucherov was. MacKinnon isn’t getting “penalized” because he’s on a better team, but him having a 100+ point line mate and him being on a legit cup contending team would be ignorant at best to ignore
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
He plays with Point all the time though, you gloss over that and he's on the same level as Rantanen.
@trevorconnatser6161
28 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner sure I agree he is on a similar level to Rantanen, but Kucherov has had to adjust to 5 different wingers on his opposite side, and he doesn’t have an aggressive defenseman to drive the play like Cale Makar. Heddy is great, one of my favorite players but he doesn’t drive offense in the same way as Makar does. And I just can’t see an argument that the Avs without MacKinnon aren’t better than the Bolts without Kuch. Kuch just means more. He has more points, on a worse team, and factors on more of the team’s goals. There just isn’t an argument you can make for MacKinnon over Kuch if we’re choosing the most VALUABLE player
@milesnelson6439
28 күн бұрын
@@trevorconnatser6161mackinnions a -290 hes gunna win it
@Andrew-ok6dm
28 күн бұрын
When considering your Hart pick did you consider how Mackinnon has a large majority of his points at home and against bad teams in comparison to Kucherov or does that hold no weight in your opinion?
@austinmcknight7508
28 күн бұрын
Kuch has plenty of points against bad teams and a lot more on the pp
@Andrew-ok6dm
28 күн бұрын
@@austinmcknight7508If you look at the stats you’ll see he actually has a higher point ratio against top teams than bottom teams while Mackinnon gets over 2p/g against bottom teams and 1.1p/g ish against top teams
@hraine93
28 күн бұрын
@@austinmcknight7508The teams he has 0 points for are Ducks, Ottawa, Caps, Sabres, St. Louis, etc. The teams he has 3+ points for are Canes, Leafs, Oilers, Knights, Bruins, Avs, Rangers, etc. Also Mack has 92 even strength points and Kuch has 91 this season so bad comparison
@mayrix2757
28 күн бұрын
that’s actually a good remark. I looked at kuch’s stats and he totaled 14 points in 4 games against the hurricanes and rangers, two of the best teams in the league, which is also 1/10th of his points in only 4 games. Opposingly, Mackinnon has 18 against the wild and the blackhawks which are his two most against teams in 8 games (plus 7 vs the sens in 2 games). He gets most of his large point games against these lottery teams and only from time to time vs good playoff teams like the jets where he has 4 in 3 (mind you he has 8 in 4 vs the stars).
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
If you want to play that game I can easily point out that Kuch had 14 empty net points, which is the most in a season in NHL history. Also can point that Mackinnon had more even strength points. If MacKinnon is a bad team merchant then Kucherov is a EN/PP merchant.
@debr4265
28 күн бұрын
Kucherov should win the Hart. One of the best seasons by a winger ever. 100 assists. 53 more points than brayden point. 50% on teams goals. Carried them since the beginning with no vasilevskiy. Thats what hart trophy is. Mackinnon had unbelievable season but kucherov deserves it more. But they are going to give it to mackinnon cause he never won it.
@EternalNS_
28 күн бұрын
Womp womp
@nhlvan
28 күн бұрын
Can't believe there are some people who still think Makar is better than hughes (this year) because he scored 3 more goals...
@radek_taylor34
27 күн бұрын
I do agree with you about Makar not being number two, but from last year when Karlsson won it he had an insane offensive season, but forgot how to play defense. With that logic, Makar should be two but what do you think?
@lukeward3479
28 күн бұрын
Mackinnon value is so blatantly underrated. I’ve seen lightning fans say this isn’t a debate but it really is so close.
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
But he plays with two superstars (meanwhile the Lightning have 4 other elite players besides Kuch).
@trevorconnatser6161
28 күн бұрын
Saying MacKinnons value is “underrated” is an absolutely beyond wrong statement. He has had his meat ride by the media the entire season
@nickgreenfield8155
28 күн бұрын
I would argue that hedman and Stamkos are super stars. Brayden point is also a dream center for many franchises.
@pekinobo
28 күн бұрын
Nice to hear your opinions and why you see it as that.
@Contraverse
28 күн бұрын
Kevin Cheveldayoff should be considered for the Gregory award
@timmytimmy803
28 күн бұрын
Helle for 5th hart spot
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
I'd have him or Pasta 6th
@carterthomas1946
27 күн бұрын
Shoutout Seth Jarvis for being that guy!!!
@Lucas-sq4vt
28 күн бұрын
LMAOOOO NO CHEVY FOR THE GREGORY?!?
@danikasmith5487
28 күн бұрын
What about Rick bowness? The 180 from 2 years ago has to say something
@djardine2520
28 күн бұрын
He has missed some time due to health, but he has def been a key to elevating the Jets’ game.
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
Close but nah
@agentshadow7456
28 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner Jets were a wildcard last year that failed so bad in the second half, he got the Jets up to first place for a good bit this season and the team was INCREDIBLE this season. He is there in number 5.
@nysportsfan31
28 күн бұрын
Haven’t even watched yet but it’s definitely Panarin Hart Fox Norris Shesty Vezina Trocheck Selke Laviolette Adams Drury Gregory
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
HAHAHAHAAH correct you know me I love my Rangers!!!!
@ashtonb0419
28 күн бұрын
using jfresh cards to debate hart choices 💔
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
Am I supposed to break down every one of their shifts instead? It's just an image to summarize my point.
@ashtonb0419
28 күн бұрын
@@MikeBartner film don’t lie, stats do.
@MikeBartner
27 күн бұрын
@@ashtonb0419 I do watch the film but believe it or not hours of film on an awards video would not be good content
@francescoravenda5070
28 күн бұрын
#mikewasright Bruins in 4😕
@Colt289
28 күн бұрын
Hey been watching ur content for about a year now these videos where you have more graphics and hockey in the background are far more entertaining than you just talking to the camera obviously it’s your videos and no disrespect but it makes the videos much better !
@samcollins8793
28 күн бұрын
Only thing with Grier is the Hertel trade.
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
That was a great deal
@4u2nvHock3y
28 күн бұрын
Theres no chance you honestly believe Suzuki is still #2. I get the underlying stats are great but the judges dont look at that. They look at +/-
@MikeBartner
28 күн бұрын
This is my prediction not what the voters will do
@chrisgoodings4450
28 күн бұрын
Having Brunette at 1 is a hot take. Tocchet is the winner, Nashville is a wildcard team, if they dont go on that heater late season they miss the playoffs. Id have Torts and Knob as the 2-3 over brunette.
@froodogga7053
28 күн бұрын
Torts? Guy is gonna get fired and has a shorter shelf life than milk...he's a bottom 3 coach !!! Lmao son
@chrisgoodings4450
28 күн бұрын
@froodogga7053 he almost got a team expected to finish in the bottom 5 to the cusp of a playoff spot. Yes they failed horribly at the end. But not even a month ago everyone was talking Tocchet Torts 1-2
@froodogga7053
28 күн бұрын
@@chrisgoodings4450 terrible coach...he's an infant
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