Am watching this in 2021, after watching Mentally Diseased’s interview with the maker of the original video. So pleased JW Defence is now John Maple.
@asapstan
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! Same here.I'm revisiting these old videos to compare .what a 180
@TheMMrtns
3 жыл бұрын
The "jw defense" guy became an apostate, too. See John Maple channel. Congrats, it was just a matter of time. This is a proof that was sincere, even at this time, but thanks to Lloyd's kind rebuttal, the guy opened up his mind.
@jinaforjesus
10 жыл бұрын
John thank you so much for all of your incredible work reversing the entanglements that keep millions trapped. Thank you!
@TheScrewedGeneration
10 жыл бұрын
I can't stand when they call this thing "the truth"
@Lollol-wq4bl
10 жыл бұрын
It's a messy combination of Gnosticism, Arrianism, Monophysitism, etc; like someone put all the erroneous thoughts of early christianity and told it was truthful. But I'm pretty certain you know it already
@marmackk
8 жыл бұрын
+John Newsome ..Jim Jones said he had the truth.I watched a video of a Branch Davidian right before the Waco incident refer to their religion as the truth. Scientology another group that has amazingly similar characteristics of the JW's means STUDY of the TRUTH .It's no wonder renowned cult expert Steve Hassan says that destructive cults internalize their belief system as the truth
@digdiggler7584
8 жыл бұрын
too bad!!!
@jamesevans1036
8 жыл бұрын
I love when angry jw's comment, it's almost better than the video itself.
@OwenMorganTelltale
8 жыл бұрын
What is wrong with that guys audio? It sounds like I'm standing next to somebody that's on the phone and listening to what the guy on the other end is saying
@ginamelton3729
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe he's recording it on his crappy cellphone.
@squirrly001
10 жыл бұрын
You are right on everything you said.... It bugged me that he said apostates suddenly make the decision to leave. I know a fair number of so-called apostates and its pretty rare that people make a sudden decision ...Most of us took years to see the light.
@lulubellers
10 жыл бұрын
"in your head, in your head, zo-ombie zo-ombie zo-ombie ie ie ie oh oh ohuah oh-ah ah ahh aaaahhhhhh h h h h ....
@bellajia223
7 жыл бұрын
Jw calls apostate those who don't obey and worship gb. (Not the biblical definition) so they say "if you leave the religion, you leave Jehovah " which is not true. Once you wake up to the lies they teach like 607,1975,1925,1915,1914,1884 and the generation and the faithful slave PARABLE......your conscience won't let you belong to the lie, and you leave the religion and still love God and Jesus. So their labeling you an apostate is like slander.
@katb945
10 жыл бұрын
JW Defence just makes a compete fool of himself, and does a great service for apostates. Thanks JW Defence!!
@huejazz6939
4 жыл бұрын
Even in the early days , Lloyd shines over this “organization”.
@PastaMaster115
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that he got better at video production when he turned to John Maple.
@zeeborutherford147
10 жыл бұрын
John, I liked this video.. However I was deeply disturbed by the bad pointing on that brickwork.. now i know some people like the deep set and old looking pointing, and im cool with it, BUT the bottom half is filled and the top left. Also your using cement mortar and for that older look lime pointing would be better.. Anyway bro let's hope its a work in progress!
@LloydEvans
10 жыл бұрын
Haha, well spotted! Actually the other side, which you can't see on this camera angle, is fully pointed. I've left the side facing the camera because the whole thing will be drywalled eventually. I only pointed the other side because it is the side everyone sees when they walk into the apartment, and to add a bit of extra strength to the wall (it is supporting a large concrete cross-beam that is showing signs of strain). The whole apartment is a work in progress, but I'm slowly getting there! :-)
@lisanoonan1267
5 жыл бұрын
I’m proud, also, of not being ‘of that sort’!🙋🏻♀️ I didn’t realize there is an option to watch videos from oldest to newest. I’m having fun in doing so!😊
@ladyhollman9534
7 жыл бұрын
Talk about confusion. 1-They confuse apostate with anti-Christ. 2-Then they who do absolutely no charity for the poor as Jesus commands say others don't listen to Jesus. Sad.
@MarcCora
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insight on this video attempting to explain who we all are that have left this false man made religion. Putting us all into a certain pigeon box. When you look at where this religion started, it came from the very things they are accusing others of doing ! Turning others away from a belief system and saying follow us we are the way! Jesus clearly warns against following these idiots. As Christians we do not need men we need Christ. John 14 :6. Great vid !
@exjwphilosophy
10 жыл бұрын
The Watchtower claims to be a restorationist Christian movement, but they fail to provide sufficient evidence that restoration of true Christianity is needed. Therefore, since they reject the teachings of orthodox Christianity they are the actual apostates. Ironic isn't it?
@foreldave2220
10 жыл бұрын
Great job. I assumed JW Defense was directly from the WT organization but, from what I've seen of the quality of this video, it's a far cry from the production values they are capable of. Blank screen while the narrator is speaking, the narrator 'popping his P's" into the microphone, and many other things. Someone has to be doing this on their own. Anyway, I'm looking foward to your next two installments.
@pghdjmarty
10 жыл бұрын
Just a thought-I wonder how many apostates they interviewed to find out how they became apostates? How can they assess what happens with a Jehovah's Witness to make them become apostate without actually asking them? Even if they have interviewed a few apostates what sort of a percentage of the apostates is it? I know A LOT of apostates and none, that I know of, have ever been asked for an "exit interview". Just wondering...
@alexforpeace85
10 жыл бұрын
Was not it the Watchtower organization calling Jesus "Lord" but repeatedly ignoring his clear instruction not to calculate end dates. This "characteristics" well fits the Watchtower organization.
@nemeanlion2460
7 жыл бұрын
Bravo! But you just made me realize that I'm an apostate now bc I've seen the evidence of evolution (unless Watchtower wants to change their stance)... ...yep I'm an apostate
@SkwidToast
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Lloyd. I don't know you'll ever see this comment or if you've been informed, but this user behind JW Defense is now an apostate with a new channel called JW Review With John Maple. Pretty interesting.
@probudtesezestrazneveze2868
5 жыл бұрын
You said, that you will give the link of the letter. Is that somewhere to find?
@lprosser5841
3 жыл бұрын
Where is the link to the letter that defines apostates by what’s in your head?
@alexforpeace85
10 жыл бұрын
The Watchtower expects its disagreeing members to fade away but expects its remaining members who have left other religions to join the organization to "expose" all the other religions as Babylon the Great. How come?
@sean2val
9 жыл бұрын
the burden of prof is upon the watchtower to show they are gods representative on earth
@nicholassupino8775
4 жыл бұрын
Defending the indefensible. These rich, despotic men are not of god. They are of self interest and control. Their inevitable fall will bring a tear of joy to my eye.
@kerridesmarais6500
10 жыл бұрын
I guess JWDefense couldn't stand the heat, so he disabled comments. It's a shame that he can sit there and bash "apostates" but can't let them defend themselves. Great job on your video, John! I look forward to parts 2 and 3.
@vinoo1946
10 жыл бұрын
John,Thank you for posting this video,I can bet the JW Defense is onto a hiding for nothing.They can't defend the indefensible.Period.Cogent arguments put across very well indeed.Here's praying for more power to your victory @ the JW Defense Armageddon!! Kind Regards, Arnold.
@johanesqueda2882
10 жыл бұрын
Next characteristic: if they float they are an apostate. If they drowned then they weren't.
@stevenwestern8199
10 жыл бұрын
Sorry I have no idea why You Tube destroyed the text. Check out Mark 9:38-40 to see what Jesus says about other groups doing the work along with he and his disciples. Christ said, if they are not against us, they are for us.
@ElearElda
10 жыл бұрын
Great job! So ridiculous accusations believed thoughtlessly by almost all JWs. John - I fade a month ago. I was born again when I was still an active elder. I wish you the same. :-) You're doing awesome work!!!
@Jbeliski
10 жыл бұрын
I went and watched this video after and it was like reading a Watchtower magazine. Cherry picked verses all out of context as to apostates. I have yet to meet a true Watchtower apostate. Most are just overjoyed at getting out of that false prophet that they want to show other doubting dreadfully unhappy Witnesses the way out and what's behind the Witchtower curtain.
@gallardowilliam
7 жыл бұрын
Jbeliski your not allowed to watch this you could get in trouble or disfellowshiped
@alexforpeace85
10 жыл бұрын
First of all, the apostle Paul warns against the dangers of peaching a different gospel (Galat. 1:7-8). He also warns that not everyone should become teachers. Therefore, I'd rather be silent and bear witness to Jesus by my deeds than open the mouth and spread all that the Watchtower has wrongly taught (1914, 1925, 1975, the 1914 generation to see the end of the world, overlapping generation, etc, etc).
@bellajia223
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you john. It takes time for some to wake up bcz we get caught up in the perfunctory busy life of meetings, service etc, feeding on the poison. ( paragraphs w a scripture here and there often taken out of context) the more I started reading the Bible and stayed away fro their literature, when I went to the meetings, things would just jump,out! Their literature goes beyond what is written like Pharisees. I never followed the literature and told them I adhere to the Bible. They said literature is helpful suggestions to protect us from breaking primciples😆😆😆
@khadijahdavis1572
2 жыл бұрын
It's their pitch for selling books, they're a publishing company that's it
@ecr473
7 жыл бұрын
That individual trying to rebuke Jhon is just a complete ignorant. Probably he loves to be controlled by the GB and he will never think with a free mind.
@richardk8821
10 жыл бұрын
John, thank you for your bravery, intelligence, and desire to get these messages out to the world, directed to JWs and non-JWs alike. I find your work to be well thought out and well presented--easy to relate to and understand. To me, the JW Defense video you reference isn't slick enough in its production values to be from the WTS, The voice changer premise you offer regarding the narrator is certainly a possibility in a world full of possibilities, but my experience is that the WTS would really do it up with graphics and music....and employ a narrator who didn't sound so amateur. To me, this smells and sounds like a rank-and-file JW with a quasi-working knowledge of Power Point.
@cartoonlady1950
10 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the JW and it use to be that you were not an apostate UNLESS you actively speak against the organization now they have changed that even if you just leave. They say if you are not active you are "standing away from" the organization. There definition has changed dramatically.
@yolandahackler1575
6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that
@bellajia223
7 жыл бұрын
Here is a good jw test......ask them if they to choose between having the Bible or contact with organization? You will be surprised how many said you can't have one without the other 😳
@JWIntellect
10 жыл бұрын
Too bad comments are not allowed on the JW Defense KZitem channel. I just had one simple question that I would have liked to be answered: What is the misleading information and lies that apostates put forth about the WTBTS?
@TamiDickerson
10 жыл бұрын
If you notice, a vast majority of pro-JW youtube channels do NOT allow for comments. That in itself is very telling.
@katb945
10 жыл бұрын
JW Defence won't allow comments because he is knows that to much truth would be posted and WT apologists HATE TRUTH! In fact if anyone is an apostate to Jehovah it is he, he proves it time and time again by misquoting scripture and using Gods word for his own sick agenda.
@KasparHauser6
10 жыл бұрын
"But a short time elapsed after the death of the great reformer of the Jewish religion, before his principles were departed from by those who professed to be his special servants, and perverted into an engine for enslaving mankind, and aggrandizing their oppressors in Church and State."…..Thomas Jefferson in a letter to S. Kercheval, 1810
@acasiere1
5 жыл бұрын
I am trying to contact you but getting interference
@estherwright2068
5 жыл бұрын
Great video!... you are really rocking that haircut...dare I say it’s a little bit Jesus 😍😍
@crispmom
6 жыл бұрын
Was it ever determined whether the "JW Defense" video is an offficial JW video?
@suzannedavies7996
3 жыл бұрын
See John Maple channel for the truth about “JW Defence “.
@sjbobkins9442
9 жыл бұрын
Try comparing Not Of Our Sort with Mark 9, If They Are Not Against Us They Are For Us. The most obnoxious part is the assumption when mentioning Christians that they have to be J-Duds as well
@wchylik97415
9 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud not to be of their SORT either, I'd feel like a FOOL still belonging to their religion.
@wchylik97415
9 жыл бұрын
Excellent John, What is the purpose of my life??? Much easier to answer. I know my purpose. I hope all of you find yours. We can all contribute together in our societies where we live to HELP our fellow man in our own way.
@wchylik97415
9 жыл бұрын
Here's the issue though, shunning isn't just taught as a dissfellowshipping offense, They also teach to SHUN your family anyway if their not witnesses, correct? They quote the scripture Jesus came to cause a division among people, including your own family, SO if they aren't Witnesses, were not really suppose to be around them very much, cause they don't believe like we do. And they say, well, youve lost your physical family but have gained a international brotherhood of family, right? BULLGRAP. I will LOVE my family forever, NO matter WHAT. SHOVE IT W.T.B.T. society.
@jasonsmith5226
4 жыл бұрын
Its so true,it's amazing Lloyd,what an unbelievable job you do,of framing my arguments-as a Christian-against this insane cult. And you are an atheist obviously. But the arguments you use,when trying to put yourself in a regular Christians shoes,are spot on. Their argument boils down to "we speak for Jesus,even though he-nor anybody in the Bible ever said anything remotely close to any of these arbitrary,man made rules we came up with. In fact, theres so many examples in the Bible,& of Jesus-directly contradicting,& warning against what they claim is his real intent,I guess. Obviously,you as an atheist,that means nothing. You dont believe the Bible, or this cult anymore. And thats completely understandable,reasonable & your choice alone. But to someone like me,this is a big deal. You call yourself Christians,& followers of Christ,but you blatantly go against his words, time,& time again. Its just a bunch of false equivilences,& straw men arguments. Now thats their right also,to believe what they want. But you arent Bible believing Christians-you are something else. And it's so hypocritical,& disingenuous. Call yourself something else,but they wont. Because most Americans call themselves "Christian." That means many different things to different people. But they know on balance,they will have an easier time converting some of these people to their cult, if they claim to put Jesus,& the Bible first,instead of saying like "we celebrate Jesus, & the Bible-but thats far from the whole story. There have been many revelations since-"or whatever. Seems like the Mormons kind of do this more honestly, though they play the same games,to a certain extent. But JWs are a hardcore destructive cult-in my opinion. Less dangerous,& controlling than say Scientology-the cult gold standard of Stazi like behavior. But still in that same class. The Mormons are definitely a cult,but to a lesser degree. And you pointed out in another video,the worst part is at their core teachings,they actually place the Bible,& Jesus words-way below their own texts,& their elders/head commissions rulings. The example you gave from 1914 basically said, if you stop reading the Bible,but immerse yourselves in JW teachings-you will be in great shape. But if you exclusively read the Bible,& stop reading JW teachings,& later books-you will be in darkness in 2yrs. Doesnt get clearer than that. And if they believe that,no problem. Just be honest about the fact,that while you may respect Jesus,& the Bible-maybe even believe he's part God,you don't follow his words,at least when they contradict what the governing body says, Watchtower,or something some special elder said 100 + years ago. Like when I once got my great grandma- an ultra strict Catholic-to admit in frustration-"I don't care what the Bible says-I listen to the pope,whos in foul able. Again,theres nothing wrong with believing any of this. Who knows,they could be right,I could be wrong, or atheists might be right. But don't hijack the Bible,& pretend to believe what it says,if you really don't. Its pretty clear that too add to,or take away from the words,is a cursed action. Which is exactly what JWs,Mormons,& strict,orthodox Catholics all do-to differing degrees. Catholics to a much lesser extent. But most other religions,& atheists admit they dont believe the Bible,& I respect that. Its much harder to respect these misleading semantic games these people play. As fake as the "good works",the Church of Scientology would have us believe,they do.
@kelliwilliams2028
5 жыл бұрын
Yessss, set up a trust fund for the victims and then dissolve the JW cult. This is my prayer. We must figure out a way to make this a reality!
@deabsolutewaarheid8761
8 жыл бұрын
you mad baby you! :D
@alexforpeace85
10 жыл бұрын
The same scriptures well apply to JWs who also left other religions, thus turning themselves into apostates by their own definition.
@khadijahdavis1572
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the truth, same thing i said, if by the real defense of apostate, then there are millions of apostates in the watchtower organization, people who left other religions and also people who use to vote in political elections
@contessia5425
7 жыл бұрын
I want to know what bothered you about the Bible? I discovered for a Professor, that thought Theology she said the Bible was changed by the Church, that women had great places of prominence in the Bible, and held many positions in the original Church. She was sent to the Vatican, she read Hebrew and Greek. She took early retirement, could not lie to future Priests. I was hurt as 15 year old when I started reading genesis. I thought God thought women were dirty. I always had questions. I mostly read New Testament. I was brain washed. Did not know different closed in with it.
@janelewis4019
4 жыл бұрын
And it says from truth, according to whom?
@stanleylee5662
2 жыл бұрын
As an apostate I am now an atheist
@100zerubabel
3 жыл бұрын
Loyd you almost favored Jesus here...✌🏻😂
@jersyguy49
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah cmon jwdefense! Bring it!
@sjbobkins9442
9 жыл бұрын
The idea that the 27 books in the New Testament were written with any knowledge of how the other 26 were being written is idiotic. We have no idea who wrote them as the apostles were certainly illiterate
@cult2occult897
2 жыл бұрын
An apostate doesn't go make disciples and preach the truth ...OK so what do they think of "apostates" who tell other's thier beliefs or make these videos? 🤔Oh, but it's not the organizations "truth" so that doesn't count, gotcha. 😉👉
@ginahales-owen8399
9 жыл бұрын
actually before anyone makes anymore claims I would just point out that they made the attacks and carried out the violence, along with other issues, but in bible terms its simple to Hebrews etc " unknown to themselves some have entertained angels" , and "the eyes of god are in every place keeping watch upon the good and the bad", you don't need to be a jw to understand that. goodbye mr witness.
@JohnSmith-bd7sg
7 жыл бұрын
I challenge you to a duel.
@NT-lt5lt
6 жыл бұрын
John Smith 🤣
@ginamelton3729
5 жыл бұрын
Always conflating the religion of the first few centuries of Christianity with Jehovahs Witnesses is ridiculous. An unproven leap that cannot be proven. For one thing, no one is 100% sure what early Christians were believing and doing, as there are few records of that historically, but one thing historians do know is from the beginning there was discord about doctrine, which is why there is disagreement and contradiction within the Greek Bible itself.
@DiEdraStinson
5 жыл бұрын
Wait. What? If you're not going out and making disciples you're an apostate? Well, from what I've seen of cart witnessing, THEY aren't going out either. They're standing there waiting for people to come to them. So, who's an apostate?
@janelewis4019
4 жыл бұрын
Charles Taze Russell was a 33 degree mason as are most religion starters
@stevenwestern8199
10 жыл бұрын
Check out Mark 9:38-40, and see what Christ has to say about other groups acting in his name. If they are not against us, you are for us, and not crazy apostates
@khadijahdavis1572
2 жыл бұрын
This video is absolute gold🤣, this organization is laughable at best
@janelewis4019
4 жыл бұрын
The dictionary says the apostate is a person who leaves a belief, every Jehovah’s Witness who was formerly another religion apostasized from their former religion, so.... they are all apostates
@4jesus4truth38
10 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that your experience with JW has led you to agnosticism and not to Christianity. But you have a right to question! I support critical thinking. For me personally, having Jesus as my savior and mediator (rather than 8 old fools) is a blessing. I think you're one of those sheep Jesus loves enough to track down and bring back to the flock! "Go therefore and make disciples." - How many people does each JW bring into the org? 0.01? 0.001? Most I knew never brought in a single person. I wanted to say I would rather be the President of the WTB&TS and take the power back from the Governing Body. I'd be an old school "tyrant" like Judge Rutherford. My way or the highway. My focus would be to promote the Gospel of Jesus. I would enact a policy that all talks given must include a direct quotation from Jesus. All literature printed would be Jesus-centric. Sunday worship meeting and a 1 hr mid week meeting only. Field service 1 Sat per month. All other Sat must be spent with family. Soup kitchen and projects to help poor. Annual election for congregation elders. 3 per hall. Lots of other reforms.
@KyleRacki
10 жыл бұрын
Hi 4Jesus4Truth, I'm an ex-JW who was a Christian shortly after leaving and then after researching the subject became an atheist. Since you say you support critical thinking, have you ever performed an extensive, unbiased look at the bible itself including the gospels? If you do, you'll find there's absolutely no evidence that many of the claims made in the bible ever happened. I suggest reading "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins or "God Is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens. And if you have any evidence to counter the arguments presented, I'd be happy to examine it myself.
@mymangobango65
7 жыл бұрын
Kyle Racki born & raised in. just recently woke up & don't know what the hell to believe, just getting more n more angry at God for creating us w/ these burning questions and making the answers impossible to find. it's just cruel as is most of the suffering that exists. i agree that the bible contradicts itself & some of the ideas in it seem very manmade but doesn't it also fufill prophecy & provide accurate scientific info way before the writer's time? ie. the earth is a sphere & it hangs upon nothing. where did we get compassion, love, guilt & a conscience if we weren't created & it's simply survival of the fitest? another thing that convinces me that there must be a spiritual world are all the paranormal activity that occurs all over the world. granted, 99% of what's on the internet are hoaxes but there are plenty that are not & just can not be explained any other way. what is your take on it if u don't mind?
@jonsixtythree
6 жыл бұрын
my mangobango The bible is a flat Earth book. It does not use the word sphere, but circle, a flat 2 dimensional disc. The Hebrew word also means circuit or compass, when there is in fact a Hebrew word for sphere or ball, but is never used in the context of the Earth. Eratosthenes did in fact declare the Earth a sphere about 200 BC using math. The bible describes the Earth as a table, immovable and resting on pillars. The sky is a dome with the stars embedded in it.
@jonsixtythree
6 жыл бұрын
my mangobango Compassion and guilt are manifestations of communal living, humans are social animals and do better as groups than they do alone. "Survival of the fittest" is a phrase often misused, in its Darwinian context all it means is that any species alive at any given moment is the fittest in relation to its related genus that is now extinct. Any species of earthworm alive now is just as fit for survival as a human, Elephant or tree.
@stevenwestern8199
10 жыл бұрын
Mark chapter 9 verses 38, 39, 40. L
@janicehussock7735
8 жыл бұрын
John, Lloyd, watching you when I am able. I am very busy doing some very dangerous political work, supporting friends in Paris, which is under attack. There is no time for me to check Wikipedia Simple English to monitor what WT Legal/First Grade English is doing to spin and make the WT Borg look so seductive, friendly, and Bible profound to simple English readers. Let me remind those who forget: English, esp. American English, is now the diplomatic language around the world because of the power of Hollywood. ISIS may be knocking on my door, if anyone is willing to make them run on Simple English, please do so. Frankly, all one needs to do is read a range of other topics and engage. The editing wars have different rules. Making any effort slows the WT down.I suspect Shroeder or some very well educated American lawyer is behind pedophile defense. It is someone with a superb education by global standards. Shroeder is a grad of Columbia Law. Australia has him on the run. Law enforcement has been notified. If anyone knows or hears a hot tip, do not be afraid to make a confidential phone call to local or national law enforcement. Of course, I could be wrong.It is hard to keep up with current events in WT Apostate land. I refuse to spend time learning what "JW Defense" is. Some of this is very gripping when you are freshly out and enjoying FREEDOM. FREEDOM. As Bob said, "Do not follow leaders. Follow parking meters." Working my way to a safe reporter or even TV reporter/producer to blow the whistle in an American way on Bethel and their legal accomplices.
@richardvsassoon5144
8 жыл бұрын
+Janice Hussock , slight correction is called for here, dear. The line from "Subterranean Homesick Blues", is 'don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters'
@janicehussock7735
8 жыл бұрын
Are you certain? My Bob Dylan lyrics book is in storage. You might be right. This JW apostate whatever is becoming a big business. It would be nice if people just did their own thing.
@richardvsassoon5144
8 жыл бұрын
understood and agreed..to me it is the message of Christ - follow me, but don't be a robot, and yes, I'm certain ;-) it was a paranoia thing that followed the drug culture. Parking meters might be used as secret cameras, listening devices or who knows what...?
@janicehussock7735
8 жыл бұрын
I am of Bob's generation and lived in Greenwich Village. Analyzing Bob's exact meaning isn't very fruitful. He was against the Establishment. I used to spend countless hours in high school reading commentators on Dylan in the Village Voice and underground publications. Strangely, it connected me with establishment literature. There was a "fan" who analyzed Dylan's garbage for clues. Bob hated him. I miss those times very much. Greenwich Village was humming with activity. It remains an arts center. My larger point is that former Witnesses do not need leaders to analyze what to do. There are so many options for local action or inaction. Anytime anyone acquires critical thinking skills it is a blow to the WT. Every political movement which I studied in school and afterwards, from the American Revolution, the French Revolution, Abolition in Great Britain and the US, independence in India and Pakistan, the Civil Rights Movement in America, used a variety of means to achieve their goals. It annoys me that many former elders set themselves up as leaders. I can't help but note how many are male, too. Again, Simple English Wikipedia could use some traction against the WT. English is now the closes to a universal language, supplanting French. Since the growth of the WT is strongest in third world countries, it would make sense to be a counter in the Simple English wikipedia. The normal wikipedia articles are very well balanced, IMO. Simple English contains no balance. I wonder if there is data concerning the usage of Simple English Wikipedia. So many more people know the lies of the WT and its doctrines today than when I was young. If the Internet existed back when my family first joined in Russell's days, perhaps they would have not joined. Lovebombing and emotional ploys would still be in use. Also I believe because of Scientology, Jonestown, the Korean war, there is much more awareness of cults, in general. New Religious Movements are being studied more. It is an encouraging trend for me. Anyway, Bob played a large role in my life. The Beatles, too. They were so influenced by him. Critics in the Voice would compare his work to other literary genres and masters. I would write down the comparisons and check the works out from the library. My high school was a joke in many ways. It is a bit strange that Bob would take me to literary masterpieces. Even today, I am astounded by the sheer artistry and creativity. He was so young. There are schools of though that certain locations at special times--Paris, London, NY Berlin attract a huge number of creative people and a special magic happens.
@janicehussock7735
8 жыл бұрын
Oh, I chose to live in Greenwich Village b/c I wanted to be exposed to beatniks, jazz, the arts, in general, in a bohemian community. Also, my law school was located there. It was my home for about forty years. I still hang out there.
@torrianoalvores1945
8 жыл бұрын
So now that your not a witness what are you
@melinaz3385
7 жыл бұрын
Matthew 28:18-20 18Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to Me. 19Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”… [If this is done without the holy spirit then it is a False Baptism! Who were you baptized to?] Ephesians 2: 1-10 1As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this world and of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4But because of his great love for us, God, who is rich in mercy, 5made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions-it is by grace you have been saved. 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9not by works, so that no one can boast. 10For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. [I AM A Person who Loves Yahweh Tremendously for the Sacrifice of his Son For the Our sins, and the Sins of Mankind, that through Belief in Jesus, Yeshuah, all may obtain life, and in that, to obtain that life you must partake of his emblems to Be a part of Him." I Corinthians 11: 23 to 26 23For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.] [Nowhere does it say in all the Gospels and Testaments that to partake of the Wine and Bread is only for a set group of people! ] James 3:13 - 18 "13Who is wise and understanding among you? Let them show it by their good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. 14But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. 15Such “wisdom” does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. 16For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice. 17But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. 18Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness."
@melinaz3385
7 жыл бұрын
2 John 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, refusing to confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
@A_X_E_L-0
9 жыл бұрын
john deja de andar publicando esto mejor ponte a trabajar. si no puedes superar tus traumas ve a una terapia.
@selinalehnsherr1043
9 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds like such a weasel. Weaseling his lies into the heads of the JWs.
@ParanormalEncyclopedia
6 жыл бұрын
Which lies exactly? Maybe you just are blinded to the truth by the JWs false teaching.
@maureenhastings2156
5 жыл бұрын
I hope she kept listening and has gotten herself free by now xo
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