Do you guys run the background check when you pay for the gun or the day you pick it up after the waiting period
@Gunner411
Жыл бұрын
Not every state has a waiting period. The background check is run at the time of purchase/desire to purchase. In Texas, when somebody says they want to purchase a gun my process as a dealer is: have customer complete 4473, run background, if proceeded collect payment, give gun, if delayed, give option to pay and then wait for proceed or Brady date, collect payment, wait
@leofightsback6514
2 жыл бұрын
I'm having trouble finding the link to which states allow my permit to being used.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
Damn! I had trouble getting the video to render and forgot to put that in the description. Here it is and I’ll edit and get it added. Thanks! www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/permanent-brady-permit-chart
@leofightsback6514
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gunner411 thanks sis ‼️🦾
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. A lot of big boxes follow whatever rules are in their most restrictive state for the most part. For example, a lot of big boxes don’t follow the Brady date or even state rules and won’t release a firearm on a delayed status. They require a proceed. It’s kinda crazy how different it can be one state to the next. I’m doing research right now and I’m going to do a series of videos about each and every state.
@Bigbeebeellc
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been doing this 4 years now….I’ve only had one denial (I’m on a roll is what the tracing center told me lol), but they did call. Apparently they only want the copy of the 4473 IF I transferred the gun after the Brady date….now that may change in the very near future as the NICS Notification Act comes online (system upgrades in September and notification to LEO starts officially 1 October). Very informative.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had to give the 4473 to field agents on a denial. The tracing center only wants it under those circumstances but depending on what the denial was for the field agents may still be going to visit somebody that got denied.
@Bigbeebeellc
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gunner411 the field agents never contacted me, the tracing center said they only needed the 4473 if I already transferred it, which I did. But because the guy brought it back, the tracing center said they didn’t need me to send it in. That’s was my experience on my one and only denial lol. But after the NICS notification act comes into effect, it seems that every denial from now on will trigger the FBI to notify local LEO within 24 hours…..additionally, according to the email sent out by the FBI…if there is a delay, you will be required to input the address from the 4473 to even get a response from them. I actually talk about that in a video I did on this subject after I got the email from NICS on the subject.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
Yep, I did a video about it as well. But yeah, they'll investigate denials depending on why the person is denied. I've only transferred one and then had it come back denied later...they arrested him in my parking lot after they let him return it. He had a sealed indictment and a warrant as a result that he genuinely didn't know about.
@aztecjoe29
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome thank you 👍👍
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@fliegeesser4665
2 жыл бұрын
What happens when the alphabet agency comes to “audit” your records and photographs everything? Now they have all that info like it or not. There is no reason these forms need to be kept indefinitely. After six months, shred them. Oh I had a fire in my records storage area, I kept the pile of ash…
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
I saw the video where that one agent did that. Somebody is going to have to push these things all the way to the Supreme Court and appeals. It’s a long fight ahead of us for sure. I know when I was audited last year they just flipped through and looked for things that popped out as incorrect on paperwork.
@fliegeesser4665
2 жыл бұрын
I hope you corrected the mistakes. Other vids out there repealing licenses over minor clerical issues. Pay attention to the details. Double/tripe check everything.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
@@fliegeesser4665 it was my first inspection and it went well. Honestly, as bad of a name as they get for the most part if you're trying to do what's right they're fairly easy to work with. There are 5 main things that will generate a revocation, I did a separate video on that.
@jessebarnett4205
2 жыл бұрын
If the feds were not trying to track us then you wouldn’t have to give them all your personal information to run through TRACKING software to see if you qualify to purchase the firearm. You LOGIC is flawed as my Vulcan friends would say rofl.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
They don’t get all your information during a background check. Name, DOB, Gender, Height, Weight, State of Birth, State of Residency, Government ID number. They don’t get given an individuals address and there are allowances for the address a customer provides to not be what’s on a drivers license.
@jessebarnett4205
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gunner411 Oh boy. So instead of it being Super super easy for the government to track you it is just a single super easy. Thanks for the update rofl. It is all good background checks will be gone in a couple years from now anyway since the Supreme Court finally validated that gun control is illegal.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see background checks going anywhere. There are still circumstances where it’s prudent people not be allowed to get possession of firearms - like in domestic violence situations. That said, I do believe the Brady Act needs to get looked at and states that have waiting periods in excess of what’s outlined in that Act need to have action taken. Also, waiting periods when a person passes a background check is absurd and way too many states have them.
@jessebarnett4205
2 жыл бұрын
@@Gunner411 I doesn’t matter what you think and it doesn’t matter what I think either. The Supreme Court has ruled all gun control not steeped in history dating back to the 1790s is unconstitutional. There was only ONE type of gun control in the 1790s. That gun control might allow felons to still be prohibited, but it won’t save background checks. Even the felon prohibition will bring up nasty history because historical racism would be the basis of its salvation.
@Gunner411
2 жыл бұрын
@@jessebarnett4205 we'll definitely see how it all shakes down. I think it'll be a long time and there will have to be a lot of battles at the state level first. There are states that require a permit to purchase ammo. California requires a background check for ammo, it's crazy what some of these states have gotten away with on restrictions/infringements.
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