Hey I tried the Metabo 23 ga nailer that I just got and tried to nail some maple crown into a maple face frame and it would not sink the nails. You were right on with your analysis. I fortunately bought it on Amazon and returned it this morning.
@jameyhaupt1789
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I bought the M12 pin 📍 and it awesome. The weight and size makes a whole world difference 👍🏻
@grandtrunk49
3 жыл бұрын
Just received the Milwaukee. Your review gives me confidence in meeting my particular needs successfully.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@joshuakelsch8005
2 жыл бұрын
I bought several of the Milwaukee, and the are fantastic for about a month, maybe up to three months, then the tongue breaks or something else goes wrong with it, and last time I looked they don't have parts for it. This really screws you on a job site. I hope the fix the problem because it starts out great.
@joshuakemblebluegrass838
3 жыл бұрын
When I first heard about the M12 coming I was excited and couldn’t wait to get my hands on one, and when it finally arrived it didn’t disappoint in fact it exceeded expectations and is one of my favorite all time tools. A co-worker got one not long after. Milwaukee makes the best guns IMO they’re all great, I have the framer too and love it.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I love mine too! It’s so much nicer to use than the metabo.
@rickyperkins232
3 жыл бұрын
How long have you had it? Do you use it a lot? Do you find and flaws?
@rickyperkins232
2 жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome question now that you have the M12 for several months will you still recommend this tool? I am about to make a purchase and am on the fence.
@gabemckay6718
2 жыл бұрын
@@rickyperkins232 it's worth it. I'm a finish carpenter and cabinet installer. I use the Milwaukee 23 gauge at least twice a week for the past 6 months. It never disappoints. I shoot it through everything too. MDF, Pine, hard maple and oak. It's never left a nail proud. All my nail guns are Milwaukee. Very happy with them. I very rarely do take the pneumatics out now.
@rickyperkins232
2 жыл бұрын
@@gabemckay6718 thanks I and going to be the proud owner of on by the time you read this response. Thanks, I really appreciate your input.
@Justathought-bh7bw
3 жыл бұрын
I install cabinets and the m12 is a life saver!
@mbburg2149
4 ай бұрын
As soon as I purchased my first Metabo nail gun. I got rid of all my other brand nail guns. Versatile ..light weight ..well built..very adjustable and lifetime warranty. I currently have 4 for different uses. Never look back ...
@hammerandhome
4 ай бұрын
Nice 👍 it’s amazing how far tools have come in the last 10 years
@enhancehomeimprovementstoo1802
3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison! I love my m12 nailer. Best cordless pin nailer out.
@eskimoinohio1460
3 жыл бұрын
How does it do in maple? We do a lot of maple cabinets and our air pin nailers even have a hard time sinking in maple.
@enhancehomeimprovementstoo1802
3 жыл бұрын
@@eskimoinohio1460 No problems in any wood type.. I have two neither has jammed yet
@davepeeters6518
Жыл бұрын
I really like my M12 pin nailer, glad to see the performance detailed here
@baseballdude8491
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the Metabo HPT and the price Got two MHPT's for the price of one Milwaukee Been running Hitachi nailers for 25+ yrs and have been the I industry standard all along the way
@mikemorgan5015
3 ай бұрын
Clearly they meet your needs. Saving initial purchase cost is meaningless if they don't do what you need them to do, though. Go with what works for you. I played the cordless tool race for years. I just had to have the new and improved model. But I was too stupid to consider that the one I had was doing the job just fine. I have no plans to drive pin nails into 1-3/8 of hardwood. But just knowing that I can makes me feel better. Haha!
@mrmarkfive
3 жыл бұрын
I have both of them and for me the M12 is far superior and it just feels better when you’re firing it.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, there is something about the m12 that just feel right
@BuffaloWarrior7
4 ай бұрын
The trigger on the M12 is nice for cabinet/shelf backs. You can really drive the nose of the tool in. Hold it. Then shoot the nail. A lot more control that way. And if anything, it's less safe because you can just fire nails across the room 😅. I just got one and its been a life safer on my first shelf thing I'm making.
@martylucas8557
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I believe you for got to mention that the M12 Pin Nailer operates off of nitrogen, there is a depth of adjustment wheel located near the nose of the tool and there’s a magnet to hold the nails in while changing and seating.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
yeah I did forget to mention it runs on a Nitrogen cell, thanks for watching!
@richardr5013
3 жыл бұрын
That's critical, an added expense and something to run out of mid job.
@kellym3610
2 жыл бұрын
@@richardr5013 you don’t have to replace the nitrogen cell. There is no added expense and it can’t run out.
@DownloaderVideo
2 жыл бұрын
@@kellym3610 What are you smoking dude? Of course the Nitrogen will run out…according to Milwaukee after around 3 years of moderate use or around 60-75k nails you need to send it to recharge. That’s an added expense but no so important in my opinion. By that time the tools has paid for itself.
@SadalDay
2 жыл бұрын
@@DownloaderVideo i believe one can buy an adapter and recharge themselves?
@greatbay1961
3 жыл бұрын
milwaukee hands down best nailers on the market
@woodpecked3D
3 жыл бұрын
Great video bud! I have a small hunch that when Milwaukee comes out with their 'Gen 2' pin nailer it will be 18v and able to fire 2" nails. 🙏🏼
@ThisTall
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had both and the Makita and there’s no comparison. You’d have to be crazy to buy anything but the M12. Id take it over my Cadex pinner to any day.
@baseballdude8491
Жыл бұрын
Sorry we have both of those cordless nailers but the Cadex is supior for production and tighter applications No contest
@allenellzey5735
Жыл бұрын
I bought the Metabo and took it back the next day. Was lucky to get it to shoot 1 nail without jamming. Ended up going to an air nailer and has zero issues
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
Good idea! Nothing beats the power of air. 2nd best would be the m12.
@baseballdude8491
Жыл бұрын
Got be user error We have two of these with different sized nails Been great over the yrs with no issues and the lifetime warranty if needed Yes still prefer air however if space is tight
@ZombieJester6
11 ай бұрын
I install cabnets every day all day an I shoot a lot about 10,000 23g pins a month. Nothing beats air yet. The milwaukee strikers are prone to cracking an breaking. Had 3 do it. The dewalts 20v are the same issue but in my experience last longer an the striker on those are replaceable. But then air guns are prone to the same issue an some can't get replacement parts. Right now I have 8 pin nailers an only 2 work haha.
@bartman59laj55
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping to make a choice, good review
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@wallyballou7417
Жыл бұрын
I have the M12 and it's great. Sinks the pins true and never jams. It doesn't come with a case, though, which seems cheap-a$$ for a $200+ tool.
@whitechris720
2 жыл бұрын
I haven't used mine yet. Hope it works as good as you say.
@matthewwysocki5019
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review.
@gregorylondos534
3 жыл бұрын
Im so sticking with my Air Senco Nailers and Staplers. But I do have both of Senco Fusion 15ga and 18ga pin Nailers. Iv will wait to see if Senco comes out with a 2" version of their 23ga headless pin nailer. If not then I'll may get the Milwaukee m12 but for now I'm a "Holdout"... Nice video, Greg
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!, I haven't tried the Senco nailers, they do look nice to use.
@omarhammoud7223
2 жыл бұрын
thank you kindly , you just made up my mind and you got a subscribe
@hammerandhome
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@strummer6642
Жыл бұрын
The Milwaukee looks awesome, can't get them in the UK. The Metabo is fine as well you just need a bit more pressure, you can see the tool bounce back on the fourth nail.
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
believe me, I put pressured down on this thing, I think i might have a faulty gun perhaps, but that said. my 16ga gun is kind of the same, it only shoots into soft woods, i cant even hang a door with it. the nails always show
@tedmcdonald3377
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad, gotta grab that M12 pin nailer😎🍻😎🍻😎
@JonFordWoodworks
3 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison sir - appreciate it!
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
thank you, and thanks for watching
@gigilaco
Жыл бұрын
The M12 5.0 ah HO battery made a huge difference for me. Great upgrade.
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
Awwsome!
@mikemorgan5015
3 ай бұрын
In what way did it make a huge difference?
@normferguson2769
2 жыл бұрын
I have not found a use for the 23 ga pins yet. I use my 18 gauge brad nailer for baseboards and 1x4 framing. In many cases the brad nailer needs to be fired in an x-pattern angle to hold the baseboard tight to an uneven wall with 2” brad nails. I don’t think the 23 gauge would achieve that.
@aaronoconnor606
2 жыл бұрын
They are only really good for small detail trim. You wouldn't use them on base boards.
@zazazazin8740
3 жыл бұрын
Very good information, Milwaukee-the best, i'm buy tomorrow thats model
@opensourcedev22
2 жыл бұрын
Damn, I have the Milwaukee 18GA gen2, and this will probably be my choice. I wish it was 18V but the the m12 battery and drive probably saves on weight
@markjarman7819
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect gun that Milwaukee but can’t buy it in the uk and no plans to sell it here.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a shame! In general this has been a tough year to get all kinds of products and materials.
@phillipsofthedriver
3 жыл бұрын
But yet youse guys get the M18 Track Saw, and we can't! WTF Milwaukee?
@joevegas3864
2 жыл бұрын
I see you have your Milwaukie hat
@histguy101
2 жыл бұрын
You didn't adjust the depth on either gun. The Metabo is ancient at this point
@konamanstudio2447
3 жыл бұрын
I already Have M12 tools so I think I will Stick with it 👍🏻🍻🍺🤙🏼
@user-oc6qs1po3j
Жыл бұрын
Fyi I bought a harbor fright air one like 27 bucks it works better then matobo junk if your just using it now an then buy one
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, good info to know. cheers
@klimekco.4577
4 ай бұрын
Does anyone else have an M12 that's constantly jamming? The first one gave me about 6 months of good use and then just started jamming. Literally about every 10th nail. I figured it made its money so I went and got another one. I've had this one for about a month and have probably run through 10 reams of nails same thing. And it's such a pain to clear without a quick release.
@mikemorgan5015
3 ай бұрын
Did you send the first one back for warranty? They'll likely send you a brand new one to replace it. You can keep cycling them out until they fix the issue.
@klimekco.4577
3 ай бұрын
@@mikemorgan5015 I actually got a a brand new one which did the same thing and then I offhandedly caught a nail brand in a video. Greks nails. I haven't had one single Jam since. And they're inexpensive. Might be GREX. I'll have to look at the order. So long, Porter Cable!
@mikemorgan5015
3 ай бұрын
@@klimekco.4577 Now that there is a gold nugget comment if I've ever seen one. Thanks for the tip. I only use mine for piddling around the house, but it's been amazing. I love Milwaukee tools generally, but they DO piss me off occasionally like many big corps do these days. Seems we get to be the testers and we pay them to do it. haha! I try to wait long enough for the reviews and ratings to populate with data before I jump. But I'm like Kermith THE frog with David Lee Roth egging me on in the background when it come to tools.
@mikemorgan5015
3 ай бұрын
@@klimekco.4577 Great tip. I'll have to get some.
@michaelmancini5773
Жыл бұрын
I have the Matabo 23, it's garbage, swapped out the first one for another one , they both misfire, Matabo customer service 800 number does not answer, you just wait on hold forever, run the other way, get a Makita 23 guage cordless no issues.
@paulmcwilliams9998
Жыл бұрын
I herd after a couple years to need to maintenance The cordless DeWalt do you know anything about this and how much cost for this
@mulisakbulisak6099
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! What do you think is the maximum length of a pin Hikoki can sink into oak or maple? 1 1/2? 1? Cannot buy Milwaukee pin nailer in Europe.. Thank you.
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
I would hope it’s the maximum length the tool can hold. I’ve heard that other guys have no problem driving long nails into hardwood. I think my tool has an issue with it because I can’t drive into hardwoods very well. Worth trying out in A store before you buy.
@yyoohh
3 жыл бұрын
I like this chilled /calm tool review . Tired of listening all the super hyped up KZitem reviewer
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, no need to scream what I’m thinking thanks for watching
@TheAavelar007
3 жыл бұрын
Cadex best pin nailer I have hade used.. the rest is the rest
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
The cadex nailer is on a different level, love it .thx for watching
@MrDianovici
2 жыл бұрын
I had both this pin nailers, metabo hpt was very good in soft wood, shorter pins for oak was good, Milwaukee m12 is good all round, mine a hit a screw behind a moulding and firing pin is broken and can't get it repaired in uk. sad,sad
@mikemorgan5015
3 ай бұрын
Use the warranty.
@Guitube99
Жыл бұрын
Would love to have your thoughts on the new Dewalt pin nailer. I'm undecided between getting it or the milwaukee. Is the extra 1/8 inch on nail length worth it ? Worth the extra cash ?
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
Sure thing! I have to say the Milwaukee is comparable to a pneumatic nailer, it sinks into hard woods no prob. I haven’t tried the dewalt yet, but I have picked it up and my first impressions are it’s a bit fat and heavy for a nailer. If your on both platforms I would go with the Milwaukee. If you want more length like 2” than think about getting a pneumatic nailer. Like the senco. Hope that helps
@Guitube99
Жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome Good points, Thanks !
@HerrenGamingNews
2 жыл бұрын
I sense a 2inch fuel gen 2 model in the future with 1000 nails per AH in the future!
@hammerandhome
2 жыл бұрын
that sounds nice :)
@loucifer4205
2 жыл бұрын
No they're not it's a pin nailer why would you need a 2 inch pin nail it's for fine thin trim
@HerrenGamingNews
2 жыл бұрын
@@loucifer4205 for the brad
@loucifer4205
2 жыл бұрын
@@HerrenGamingNews You didn't say brad
@huckleberry3822
3 жыл бұрын
I've broken three metabo pin nailers. I was getting around 10K pins before the tip would break. Unable to have them repaired. No one carries replacement parts.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
That’s good to know, I haven’t needed new tips for mine yet. Thanks for sharing. If I find any I’ll post them up.
@huckleberry3822
3 жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome They are hard to find. I dropped one off at a local repair shop. Five months later it was still unfixed. They could not find the striker/tip.
@victortexeira5034
2 жыл бұрын
i’ve broken 2 in a month in sick of metabo pin nailers . i order the m12 let’s see what happens
@huckleberry3822
2 жыл бұрын
@@victortexeira5034 I love my M12. Use only porter cable pins. Don't use metabo pins. I fire three pins in scrap before using it. It warms up, I've never had a problem.
@user-oc6qs1po3j
Жыл бұрын
I bought matabo it's junk in first half rack of nails it jambed 3 or 4 times miss fired bunch I was on job guy had Milwaukee it never jambed or miss fired sent junk back got Milwaukee no problem with it
@Thejoker-ii7eq
2 жыл бұрын
Metabo have the battery indicator on their 36v battery.
@stuartcairnie9985
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison, I'm teetering on the fence as to getting a cordless pin nailer as I have 23ga air guns right now and with my smaller compressor not much of a deal hauling it into a home but that may change :^) . It will be interesting if Dewalt ever comes out with cordless23 ga., as that is what the majority of my cordless tools are.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
it's a tough decision to go onto another platform for sure, I wish dewalt would step it up a bit.
@phillipsofthedriver
3 жыл бұрын
I'm only team red because that's the platform I started on. They make everything I need in 12v and 18v, so I'm fine with sticking with that platform since I have SO MANY batteries and chargers for it. I'd suggest you wait for Dewalt to come out with one that's compatible with your battery stock, get the bare tool, and in the meantime keep using your air tools.
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
fyi dewalt has a 23ga nailer now cordless
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
@@phillipsofthedriver Dewalt just came out with the cordless 23ga.
@stuartcairnie9985
3 жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome couldn't find it on their site?
@paulthomas3841
3 жыл бұрын
What about Bosch 18v staple and nailer
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
I haven’t tried them yet. On the list 😊
@rusinjeff5959
Жыл бұрын
I can only speak for the Milwaukee but it’s the biggest piece of junk I’ve ever bought. Four months of use and I already had to send it in for service, they jam more nails then they shoot half the time and if you’re shooting anything harder than marshmallows you might as well forget it
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
Wow really! That sounds like you got a lemon. Mine is amazing and shoots into anything
@briha3142
3 жыл бұрын
You should’ve adjusted the Metabo to see if it sinks them better! You also failed to mention that the Metabo is brushless motor technology, whereas the M12 is NOT! And, the Metabo has LIFETIME WARRANTY, whereas the M12 is only 5-yr warranty! And I just scored the Metabo for only $172 from Lowe’s ‘Buy More, Save More’ sale, that came with a 3.0 Ah battery, fast charger and a soft case! The M12 is $199 tool-only! No thanks!
@БРАТИШКАТИШКАТИШКА
2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellena1451 Milwaukee will be broken in 2 weeks lmao had 2 of them🤡
@DownloaderVideo
2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellena1451 😂 True….He just got burned and overpaid for an inferior tool.
@victortexeira5034
2 жыл бұрын
i went thought 2 metabo pin nailers i a month they are completely garbage . i’m waiting for my m 12 do not but metabo is a piece of garbage
@harleydavidson4105
2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellena1451 I’m Milwaukee guy but metabo nailers tools is the best
@baseballdude8491
Жыл бұрын
Yes and we have two of the MHPT's for the same $ as one Milwaukee and keep two different sizes in it
@grantparnes
2 жыл бұрын
I loaned my carpenter my Metabo the other day while he was installing wood on a ceiling. He had his M12 and a helper. The next day he gave me back my Metabo. Its is now a boat anchor and his M12 still works perfectly. No one knows what happened to it. I took the nose off and put it back, it fired 7 pins and stopped working again. As far as use.............maybe 400 pins since I bought it and I would guess another couple hundred from the guys on the ceiling before it crapped out. Disappointing.
@hammerandhome
2 жыл бұрын
i haven't had that experience with mine yet, but to be fair as soon as i got the m12 i never touched the metabo again. its very disappointing
@grantparnes
2 жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome So disappointing Metabo should recall it based on comments and reviews.
@user-oc6qs1po3j
Жыл бұрын
You can hear the Milwaukee just sounds like better tool
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
It sure does. I love using it!
@user-oc6qs1po3j
Жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome I sent matbo back got Milwaukee an it just works great no jam sinks every nail an no miss fire it's night an day but I bought a harbor freight pin nail for 27 bucks it's air but honestly am impressed with it
@BorgDrohn
Жыл бұрын
You should try to use the nail guns correctly. All you shots were not made in a 90 degree angle.
@Chris.Rhodes
2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video, I do maintenance for a living, and I get into repairing a lot of door casings and baseboards, etc. My question is, can a 23g pin nailer be used to hold door casings and mdf baseboards? I have a lot of M12 tools, and have a cordless Worx 18g nailer I normally use (I got it for $25 I can't complain) but have been wanting that M12 Pin Nailer, but don't know what all can be done with them. Any advice would be appreciated man. Thanks!
@sydneylewis399
2 жыл бұрын
Its for like trim and scribe/toekicks/quarter round in the fields ive been in i dont think itd be a good idea to use it with base board.
@Chris.Rhodes
2 жыл бұрын
@@sydneylewis399 okay cool thanks!
@sydneylewis399
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris.Rhodes Its really such a small nail im not sure itd even sink into anything but dry wall through 3/4 + 3/4 is 1 1/2 and the longest 23gauge is 1 in 3/8. But arent very sturdy once you get first nail off u can pull the trim off with one finger.
@Chris.Rhodes
2 жыл бұрын
@@sydneylewis399 Yeah just before I purchased one, I just wanted to know if it could be done. Seems like not a good purchase for me and the reasons why I'd use it. So 18g it is!
@sydneylewis399
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chris.Rhodes Danng well at least someone else with the same question might know before hand now though. We use a 16 in closet making sometimes we renail the base on with it. But they are like indestructible so any one who has to take it out behind you. Another trade or whatever will have the worst time pulling 16s out of the wall. 18 definitely seems appropriate for base.
@hmtrimworks7148
2 жыл бұрын
Matabo pin nailer is junk IMO… I had it for a couple years and was disappointed on day one with it… Constantly does not fire unless you have the tip perfectly in the right spot… And like you said does very poorly on hardwoods
@hammerandhome
2 жыл бұрын
yeah its very disappointing, i haven't used it once since i got the m12
@uprightcr2744
Жыл бұрын
If you need 2 inch pins… you’re shooting the wrong nails
@nfi2nfi2
2 жыл бұрын
Put the Cadex magazine on the Milwaukee 🤣
@kauaixtremeshorefishing1021
3 жыл бұрын
I’m getting one M12 for sure
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
nice, enjoy!
@GTRliffe
2 жыл бұрын
That’s bias your sloppy operation of the metabo one is why the milwakee one
@24-lv5tm
Жыл бұрын
green better
@homecraftsolutions3506
Жыл бұрын
Sorry to give a thumbs down here but you did not do a fair comparison. The Metabo you held loosely against the oak and the Milwaukee you seated firmly against the wood. Even my Grex air gun will leave heads up if I don't firmly place against the material.
@hammerandhome
Жыл бұрын
Lol, that’s ok. But believe me my metabo does not even compare to the m12. I actually think there might be an issue with it. I’ve done tones of nails into hard wood ant they just don’t sink.
@homecraftsolutions3506
Жыл бұрын
@@hammerandhome that’s too bad. I just bought one to match all my other Merabo 18v tools. I use a Grex 23 ga mailer and it has trouble sinking 1-3/8 into hardwood. Thanks.
@lavliidiary
2 жыл бұрын
Miluakee is garbage, used it in 1 small job then every 1-3 shots keeps on jamming its completely garbage!!
@histguy101
Жыл бұрын
Cordless pin nailers are very finicky tools. You need to keep them clean and lubricated. The glue that holds the nails together rubs onto the magazine. Pneumatic don't have this problem since they have a lot better power.
@leemobai762
Жыл бұрын
Metabo 😂😂😂😂
@kiko92011
3 жыл бұрын
Metabo/hitachi is a totally trash I own 1 and is really bad do waste your money
@hammerandhome
3 жыл бұрын
the only tool im really impressed with is the framing nailer, it beats the Milwaukee but the other nailers are a big disappointment
@tiddybagel
Жыл бұрын
Just grabbed the milwaukee tool only for 160. There was a kit deal for 179 but it sold out, but I have too many batteries and m12 charger already so I didn't really need that.
@Frygonz
Жыл бұрын
Where? I can only see the kit for $279, and bare tool $229 which is just absurd.
@tiddybagel
Жыл бұрын
@@Frygonz Home depot had a kit sale but it sold put quickly. I got mine private sale, I wouldn't pay any more than 180 for it
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