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@AbeHopwood
Жыл бұрын
I actually disagree, I don't think she's a bad person at all
@maddy8944
Жыл бұрын
If you pause it at the right time you can see horns ( at the end)
@ador3z
Жыл бұрын
No. I disagree with this video.
@maddy8944
Жыл бұрын
Same
@fuzzycat5114
Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Aa..79_
Жыл бұрын
Honestly Steve probably had one of the best character development in S.T
@justatrollyaloser
Жыл бұрын
True. He went from bully, to single mother who is supportive of his lesbian friend
@neilkarote6579
Жыл бұрын
@@justatrollyaloser and at the point in time, steve truly is great
@britneyclisham8138
Жыл бұрын
Hopper too!
@itssmiraclee
Жыл бұрын
I’m saying
@Aa..79_
Жыл бұрын
@@justatrollyaloser Yes we love an ally/mother of 5/former bully
@poppli6419
Жыл бұрын
When it comes to romantic relationships she’s a bad person, but otherwise she’s very kind and intelligent, she also cares for her friends and mikes friends
@DarkMoonGeneral
Жыл бұрын
Sorry she is useless, I was disappointed she lived past season 1.
@a_little_c0splayer211
Жыл бұрын
Very true, I feel like she's not ready for a relationship whatsoever, everything went too quickly. With Steve, it was probably because she needed a male figure to reassure her but with Jonathan, it was based on shared trauma. Now their relationship is starting to deteriorate because jo went away and Steve still has feelings for her. The shared trauma isn't enough to keep them together.
@damianisaac5443
Жыл бұрын
And she’s a badass with a gun
@Kenyagirly
Жыл бұрын
@@a_little_c0splayer211 And yet they are stil together imao
@a_little_c0splayer211
Жыл бұрын
@@Kenyagirly absolutely, but there's a chance that it won't last until the end of season 5. I kinda wanna see Nancy single ngl
@dangreen2034
Жыл бұрын
The way the wheelers both sorta struggle to express how they feel romantically, it makes so much sense with how karen settled with ted fr
@UrAvergFrTeen
10 ай бұрын
I still wonder how that happened
@Luckystars_the1nonly
9 ай бұрын
They all do I swear- Mike literally can’t say I love you,Karen and Ted are terrible and can’t express their love when they barely have any,and Nancy is jumping from one to another every season when she can’t even express love. I don’t think she’s ready for a relationship at all,her problem is her character doesn’t deserve a relationship yet and she’s not mature.
@maelguiraud3568
8 ай бұрын
@@UrAvergFrTeen he had a good job came from a good family i guess she said well.
@vedjoshi260
7 ай бұрын
C'mon Karen is badass... His sarcasm, the way he asks cops to arrest the children, damnnnn😂😂😂😂
@littleleah310
6 ай бұрын
Fr
@hayleysluvrr
Жыл бұрын
When Steve said “so.. you don’t love me?” I BROKE
@Preppy_adoptme680
Жыл бұрын
Awh me too he sounded heart broken 💔
@elisabethhutchinson2987
Жыл бұрын
That made me so sad. 😢
@raina2319
11 ай бұрын
she was drunk and stressed and steve didn't care at all about the guilt she was feeling towards Barbara's parents. He kept pushing her to pretend things were normal. He reacted by leaving her drunk at a party with other drunk teens, among them people who hated her. I can't believe people have not pointed out the seriousness of such a situation. But sure, lets give Steve the best boyfriend award. What did he ever do besides calling her a slut, but hey he apologised so obviously he is a good person.
@xxbluemoon97xx
10 ай бұрын
@@raina2319oh my god THANK YOU! Very well said.
@bethh370
9 ай бұрын
i know!!!!
@dejahwilliams537
Жыл бұрын
Steve didn’t misunderstand her “friendship” with Jonathan… Jonathan literally stalked Nancy and Steve called him out on it.
@Threeleebird
Жыл бұрын
And why was Steve the only one who reacted like a normal person about it and not Nancy who just stays close to Jonathan? He didn't even explain to her what he was doing there or why he took pictures of her.
@Electraaaa9
Жыл бұрын
@@Threeleebird he did. You should rewatch it 💀
@Paidnotspaid420
Жыл бұрын
@@Threeleebird he did explain, he took pictures of her naked through her window because he was looking for his brother. Definitely clears his name right
@Paidnotspaid420
Жыл бұрын
@@Electraaaa9 what? That he took pictures of her naked through her window because he was looking for his brother? Definitely clears his name right
@Threeleebird
Жыл бұрын
@@Electraaaa9 Yeah, the excuse that he was looking for Will taking pictures of her? Yes, I'm not convinced
@ColemanBGolf
Жыл бұрын
Let be straight, Steve’s reaction to Jonathan taking photos of them was not an over reaction. Jonathan was a legit creep for that.
@AK-tm3lg
Жыл бұрын
Yep
@Zer01122
Жыл бұрын
Mhmm.
@Preppy_adoptme680
Жыл бұрын
Omg yess ❤❤❤
@anukoolgangwar535
Жыл бұрын
He didn't take any nudes ... He stopped shooting as soon as they went more than kissing... Then he started taking pictures of barbara.. he was trying to capturing emotions of them not their nudes... Jhonathan himself said in series he likes to talk people via pictures rather than in person... Tearing pictures and a punch would be okay but breaking his camera was too much.
@ColemanBGolf
Жыл бұрын
@@anukoolgangwar535 it’s stil creepy. Do you want someone sneaking around your house in the middle of the night taking pictures of you. It’s creepy.
@sofiaverdes9886
Жыл бұрын
Sorry if this comment will offend you, but I gotta say my opinion: Nancy cared about Barb and was worried about her being gone, she saved Max by shooting Vecna, she saved Steve, she cared about a 90 year old woman, she danced with Dustin when nobody wanted to. She basically saved most of her brother friends. I don't consider her bad just because of her love triangle AT ALL. Right now, she's just friends with Steve. So...yeah.
@Ahlena-itr1112
4 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you she’s one of the best character in the series.
@J.D-df6dn
4 ай бұрын
None of that has to do with her being a good person. Cheating is still cheating. Idc if you saved the entire planet. That's not a pass.
@canadagirl408
4 ай бұрын
totally, she's also still in high school, I think people forget that even though the series has been on for around 6-7 years, her character is still a high school student who has gone through a lot of trauma and it's not as if mental health was super well known in the 80s, especially in a small town in Indiana and even if she saw a therapist, it's not like she could actually talk about what has been happening to her without ending up in Penhurst herself
@LiaByee
3 ай бұрын
This is literally a What a normal person should do you SHOULD save your friended and people you want to. Ypu woukd care abt your dead friend the only thing valid is the dances which Dustin but that just feast like pity to me
@azharhussain5837
3 ай бұрын
@@J.D-df6dnshe do not cheat in season 2 she get in relationship with Jonathan after break up with Steve and in season 4 she did not cheat on Jonathan she just looking at Steve all time.
@AESTYLLE
Жыл бұрын
Something that makes her an amazing person is during the snow ball she sees Dustin crying and she goes over to him and makes him feel so much better. Such a heart warming moment! ❤
@acidmana7920
Жыл бұрын
The best thing she ever did tbh. The one reason I'll never hate her.
@PriyanshuKumar-ez6qi
Жыл бұрын
@@acidmana7920 Os basically you don't olve her for being one of the bravest character on the show playing big roles in defeating demogorgon ,vecna etc.,being super intelligent and smart and caring for her brother's friends .... Man she's hated for being BAD at relationship , she's many goid qualities
@alishbakhan6489
10 ай бұрын
@@PriyanshuKumar-ez6qishe's not hated for being not good in relationship cuz it's a totally different thing she's hated for being a cheater and she's hated for being a brat in a relationship cuz she's literally treating relationships like a game, she wants Steve she gets him she wants Jonathan she gets him and then she wants Steve again, like is this a game of some sort in which everything has to be according her , cuz I really want Steve to reject her so that she could taste the taste of her own medicine. Also about her being a fierce fighter I agree she's all that but she's not the only one if you've forgotten every frickin person in stranger things is a fighter, hop is a fighter Joyce is a fighter eleven is a fighter and tbh they've done many things to defeat vecna so its not like she's the only one fighting vecna and Demogorgons but at the same time these people have not cheated on their partners and that too twice , so tell me why should I or anyone as an audience choose Nancy when we have plenty of better options.
@sophiecity3202
10 ай бұрын
That was my favorite moment from her but that’s the only thing I can stand about her.
@zerubbabelsbridge
9 ай бұрын
Oooor. She's grooming him for Stranger Things 10...
@hiltonsecret
Жыл бұрын
I felt SO BAD when he said "so you dont love me..?"
@jenyn
Жыл бұрын
dude same 😭😭
@saramidenjak7229
Жыл бұрын
Same duhh
@hokage458
Жыл бұрын
Bruh 💀💀💀
@Who.Is.Millie
Жыл бұрын
like a know she was drunk but come on drunk words are just sober thoughts??
@brucewaite3733
Жыл бұрын
Yeah man you could hear his heartbreak
@they_fw_kaleena
Жыл бұрын
Plot twist the elevator scene comes true and they leave Nancy for each other
@angeliquakhomo6401
Жыл бұрын
Yessssss🌈
@angelinamonje7344
Жыл бұрын
omg yess
@jeamisvu4917
Жыл бұрын
wait, what's happen? i don't remember that scene
@denbintsu2068
Жыл бұрын
@@jeamisvu4917 it wasn't in the show, it was interview or something
@jeamisvu4917
Жыл бұрын
@@denbintsu2068 ohh! i remember it now lol
@jackwareham7075
Жыл бұрын
I think Nancy is a great person but she doesn't think very much about other people's feelings when making decisions. She holds people (and herself) to ridiculously high standards and I just don't think she really knows what true love means. She's too forward and doesn't slow down for anyone.
@adw6894
11 ай бұрын
She's just a teenager with many traumas, especially after the death of her best friend. But she's still a great person, I can't hate her just for that.
@alishbakhan6489
10 ай бұрын
@@adw6894and who's fault was sit that he BEST FRIEND died, ohh let me guess wasn't it her who took barb to the party just because she wanted to have sex with Steve even though barb didn't wanted to go and you know what that okay if you're friends with someone you will expect them to support you and so barb did but when the party was over she didn't even care about barb, knowing very clearly that will was missing and probably dead she didn't care that it was dangerous outside and she told her to go home on her own, so the only thing that's upsetting Nancy is not that her best friend died but the fact that her best friend died because of her and she knows it that's why she can't get over it
@user-mh6zt9mc2z
9 ай бұрын
Sono d'accordo solo per le prime 7 parole, non credo sia un problema pensare prima a se stessi perché in fondo noi stessi saremo gli unici che non ci deluderanno mai
@maelguiraud3568
8 ай бұрын
@@alishbakhan6489yeah cause she knew she was going to get sucked in another dimension.
@michaellove3564
5 ай бұрын
I agree
@katie-monahan
Жыл бұрын
I swear Jonathan knocked some sense into Steve after the fight 💀
@nodruj8681
15 күн бұрын
He didn't, steve was always the one in the right. Jonathan was a literal weirdo.
@Randomguy-gz7zs
8 күн бұрын
@@nodruj8681I love Steve but you also have to considered he was a bully so tbh the three were dead wrong
@PorcelainPlanetarium
Жыл бұрын
the way nancy is written is very realistic. she’s been through a lot and clings to the person showing her the most love in the moment. she quickly befriends robin in s4 because robin was showing her a new source kindness. the same goes for steve and jonathan. you could attribute this to her lacking love from her parents and losing, barb, her best friend in season one.
@nancywheeler937
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@zainabsadil
Жыл бұрын
yeah i agree -- she has definitely done bad things, but she has also been through a lot of trauma and grief
@greyknight627
Жыл бұрын
But how is this a good thing? If anything, it just means she’s toxic and should be avoided because she is a borderline personality disorder who only shows intense interest to the people in front of her, then loses interest to the people not in her immediate vicinity. Trauma and grief are one thing, but they aren’t excuses to abuse and lead people on. Steve is a good person who has frankly grown a lot throughout the show, way more than Nancy has at this point. It doesn’t matter how realistic, or understandable her grief or trauma is, it doesn’t make what she’s doing right.
@SalandCuz2941
Жыл бұрын
Barbs death was Nancys fault
@animeamv2555
Жыл бұрын
doesn’t give her the right to cheat tho lol
@ExElliexE
Жыл бұрын
“Misunderstands her friendship with Johnathan” yeah I’m totally cool with all my friends taking pictures of me changing without asking 🤨 I’m on Steve’s side on that one tbh
@afonsogames1630
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Steve was kinda right in this situation. If someone starts taking photos of his girlfriend changing, it kinda makes sense why did he breaked his camera. I don't get it why people got mad at Steve in that scene.
@alphaxan8175
Жыл бұрын
@@afonsogames1630 probably because Jonathan’s actual intentions were to find his brother and Steve knew this
@pyro.prime.official
Жыл бұрын
Jonathan's intentions were to find his brother, but ofc Steve was mad at someone taking photos of him. But then again why shouldn't Jonathan be mad if someone started talking bs about someone's family? Especially if Jonathan's brother had gone missing. Jonathan's intentions to take photos of Steve weren't bad, Steve was rightfully mad because someone took photos of him. However, Jonathan was also rightfully mad that someone called his family a bunch of screw ups
@krystabellechia6933
Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@krystabellechia6933
Жыл бұрын
@@afonsogames1630 exactly
@chloeharleary3180
Жыл бұрын
She isn’t a bad person, she’s a teenager making teenage decisions and mistakes
@wongxuxi
Жыл бұрын
The teenager card doesn’t always work. I was a teenager too but I never cheated on anyone because I knew it’s wrong. Right now, looking back at the 4th season, even if she doesn’t say it directly or doesn’t sleep or like kiss Steve, it’s clear that she has feelings for him and that basically is cheating. It doesn’t always have to be physical, you know? it’s the damn feelings. We are not saying that she’s a terrible person, but we’re saying what she is doing with her love life and love interests, is really wrong, even as a teenager.
@xxxafterglow
Жыл бұрын
@@wongxuxi The world isn't that binary. Cheating doesn't make a person bad or disgusting, like this video alleges. It's a thing that sometimes happens because people are gonna people. Esther Perel wrote a whole book on it.
@wongxuxi
Жыл бұрын
@@xxxafterglow 😐😐😐😐😐 are you for real????
@Phantom-gl4jt
Жыл бұрын
what if it was other way around? you would have ranted that how bad Steve is.
@thevarraajsthevarraajs6256
Жыл бұрын
So clearly don't give a FCK about loyalty when someone do give the same fuck and same fcking way then why so sad even u know u are not worthy for being sad 😂
@melissawood8324
Жыл бұрын
I love how they didn't even mention how she was grieving over Barb herself.
@meganmcleod6152
Жыл бұрын
sure but that foray change the things she did to hurt steve
@kat8196
Жыл бұрын
But Steve was also an asshole to so she had the right also did they not realize that ppl fall out of like and the argument thing she was DRUNK
@tito2faded
Жыл бұрын
Lmao yea by fucking steve
@just4elenaa_
Жыл бұрын
bro literally everybody forgets barb
@spanish-inquisition2024
Жыл бұрын
@@just4elenaa_ nooo 😭
@lldolphin
Жыл бұрын
Nancy every season: "How am i feeling today? Jonathan or Steve? 🤪"
@Birdi1234
Жыл бұрын
Seriously
@areenamiraculous9994
Жыл бұрын
Lol
@sugawpaws
Жыл бұрын
Season 4 is definitely Steve.
@lyd1aaaa
Жыл бұрын
@@sugawpaws mm then season 3 is jonathan, then s2 is steve and jonathan then s1 is steve
@lyd1aaaa
Жыл бұрын
@@sugawpaws mm then season 3 is jonathan, then s2 is steve and jonathan then s1 is steve
@dogsforlife4351
10 ай бұрын
1. She didn’t “get back with Steve” they fixed their toxic relationship 2. She didn’t realize she even had feelings for Johnathon until they went to Murry’s 3. They broke up and Steve was trying to win her back, she didn’t cheat on him 4. She didn’t cheat on Johnathon in season 4 so ha! She ain’t a bad person- She’s a teenager
@user-pd8nc1nu1s
5 ай бұрын
Teenagers can be bad person. As long as you don't cheat its fine.
@Crispy_DAWG
5 ай бұрын
@@user-pd8nc1nu1s More like what teen makes the right choices? They are all figuring everything out. Nancy and Steve didn’t have a real relationship. She found him hot and he was immature. It wasn’t until Steve was alone and babysitting did he mature and realize what he wants. A family (not said, but you can kinda tell). Jonathan, while kinda a dick for not being there for Nancy, is scared of the future. He has yet to start is maturing and hopefully the season tackles that. Otherwise his character will be ruined by the 4th season depiction.
@liilis.
5 ай бұрын
@@user-pd8nc1nu1snancy isnt a bad person, she doesnt know how to handle her feelings most likely due to how she grew up, since mike has the same problem.
@user-pd8nc1nu1s
5 ай бұрын
@@Crispy_DAWG I am not talking about american teen's. Right and wrong are not very hard concepts.
@Stefan_Diaz_Keene_2018
10 күн бұрын
She is not teenager she is 19 years old
@bassyxgrelle8659
5 ай бұрын
Nancy and Mike both have had trouble expressing romantic feelings, and honestly, I don't blame them considering their parents While it doesn't excuse their actions or the things that they've done, it does explain why they act the way they do
@Stefan_Diaz_Keene_2018
10 күн бұрын
Nacny and Mike Sam and Lapusso Same idiot person
@countdookie6987
Жыл бұрын
"She belong to the streets" -Vecna
@tvalokibatman6563
Жыл бұрын
Says that to Sam laurusso and Mary Jane
@greasybumpkin1661
Жыл бұрын
@@tvalokibatman6563 for real Nancy is a saint compared to the shit Sam LaRusso causes, including but not limited to damaged to multiple cars and paralysis.
@canaan_crystalwing99
Жыл бұрын
True
@JazzyB9481
Жыл бұрын
Lmaao
@heynae2016
Жыл бұрын
KSJZJSK-
@kaygee6275
Жыл бұрын
“She starts an argument with Steve by calling their relationship bullshit.” What show were you even watching? Nancy’s best friend Barb was missing and Nancy was distraught, nobody was listening when she asked for help, Steve wasn’t listening to her at all, so she’s spirally into depression, she gets drunk and lashes out. People get angry when they’re grieving and there’s different ways to grieve. Steve even admits afterward that he was a shit boyfriend afterward. Seriously, you people need to stop blaming Nancy. I get that she isn’t perfect but no character on this show is.
@Kenyagirly
Жыл бұрын
exactly
@Kenyagirly
Жыл бұрын
people just wanna blame nancy to defend steve on everything he did in season one only because he is their favorite character
@Oops.Hii_28
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@none4492
Жыл бұрын
Seriosly, this is the first time I finally hear someone blame on Nancy. But I don’t think only one is right and one is wrong. They were both wrong. You can’t just blame everything on one character. Steve was kind of an asshole in the first season, but he changed. But even if Nancy was grieving, it doesn’t give her the right to just start a fight out of nowhere, cheat on her boyfriend and then agree that Steve was the one doing wrong. Like when Steve said that he’s a bad boyfriend and in season 4 he says that he is finally going to the right direction, Nancy has never told she cheated or apologized for her drunk-scene
@Amazingheidi5266
Жыл бұрын
@@Kenyagirly I agree
@mondayfunday6413
6 ай бұрын
Its like a love triangle, she can't help it
@Tatsvfx
Жыл бұрын
Nancy isn't bad person 👇
@frogwithibs6675
Жыл бұрын
1. After barb goes missing, Steve tells Nancy to not tell the cops about the alcohol at their party, or to mention his parents 2. Nancy is having breakdowns thinking she is at fault for barbs death, and no one is listening to her. 3. The only person who actually listened, and had similar experiences, was Jonathan, that's literally their whole relationship, "shared trauma". 4. After Steve sees Nancy hanging out with Jonathan, he PUBLICLY, humiliated her. 5. It really took getting beat up twice, (Jonathan, and Steve's friend), to realize how much of a asshole he has been, and it's only after he gets beat up that he decides, to be a good guy. Yes, Nancy isn't the perfect person, but to blame everything on Nancy is just really dumb.
@mata18400
Жыл бұрын
someones a nancy fanperson
@DUBSTV2003
Жыл бұрын
She kinda IS at fault for Barb's death, because not only is she a shitty girlfriend, she's a terrible friend to Barb.
@jimmyjohnsurmom1556
Жыл бұрын
@@DUBSTV2003 Nancy and Barb were really good friends and all the pictures on the billboard in her room show it, that's why she feels so guilty about it bc if she hadn't tried to change, Barb would possibly still be alive. And since she tried to change for Steve I don't see how she was a "shitty girlfriend" but ofc she felt guilty about it and tried to go back to being herself but her depression and guilt almost made that impossible for her. I really don't see how she's at fault here.
@BraceletsbyAlexa
Жыл бұрын
But I have a question 🙋♀️. Didn’t Steve’s so called “Friends” humiliate Nancy! Not Steve! I remember watching it and Steve told his fake friends that they shouldn’t have wrote that on the billboard. Doesn’t this mean that Steve didn’t actually try to humiliate Nancy but yeah he told his “Friends” but if you were in that situation and you didn’t know that those were fake friend wouldn’t you tell them too!? Basically to rap it all up I think that Steve wasn’t to be blamed for the writing on the billboard for telling the people he thought he could trust about how he THOUGHT that Nancy was cheating on him! I’m not saying that he wasn’t being kinda mean at first, I’m just kindly stating that he shouldn’t really be blamed for something he didn’t do.
@brianthomson31
Жыл бұрын
@@BraceletsbyAlexa but Steve had the option to tell his friends to stop but he let it play on
@v1legend896
Жыл бұрын
Dustin dancing with Nancy Steve looking from the window : yep thats my boy😭 Edit:ty for the likes
@trinity8183
Жыл бұрын
fr guys ty for all the likes from just a short answer lmfao
@lazy_rose6862
Жыл бұрын
Them in the golden Elevator: Umm- yeah...
@Devulini
Жыл бұрын
Ye
@Jellyessa
Жыл бұрын
@@lazy_rose6862 fr tho-😂🤚
@Ayon1428
Жыл бұрын
@@trinity8183 bruh it was only 14 likes 💀
@strangerthingslover9472
Жыл бұрын
if what he means by nancy cheating with jonathan on steve is when they were at murray’s house, i thought her and steve had already broken up. it was like an implied one not straight said but they both knew after she didn’t say ily and he went back into the gym once they talked abt her being drunk and saying everything is bs
@StickGirlsCommittee
Жыл бұрын
Otherwise besides relationships, she’s really kind and sweet, the only thing she is is a player
@Yourlocalprocrastinator
Жыл бұрын
0:10 so was Jonathan taking those pictures- I feel like nobody talks about that-
@figure3790
Жыл бұрын
Exactly I get why Steve destroyed his camera
@iheartmybf
Жыл бұрын
FRR
@Kenyagirly
Жыл бұрын
@@figure3790 And I get why Jonathan beat the shit out of Steve
@Kenyagirly
Жыл бұрын
@@figure3790 Even Robin admitted Steve was a jerk
@jarnold
Жыл бұрын
@@Kenyagirly ok???? that does not mean Jonathan was in the right, Steve destroying his camera is literally just retaliation to Jonathan *taking pictures of his girlfriend while she was changing her clothes*
@artsybirdgirl
Жыл бұрын
She sounds normal to me. People forget that she also lost her best friend, so she was also grieving. Steve really did not give her time after Barbs death.
@BlazingOwnager
Жыл бұрын
She's been jumping back and forth cheating (usually emotionally, sometimes physically) on good dudes for years at this point.
@prachisharma444
Жыл бұрын
@@BlazingOwnager bruh? There were only 2 dudes in his life. Calm down.
@dracuzura
Жыл бұрын
@@BlazingOwnager when did she cheat?
@BlazingOwnager
Жыл бұрын
@@dracuzura She was with Steve, they had a little fight, then went to Murray's place they ended up banging Byers. While, at the time, Steve was running around trying to get apology flowers for her. Pretty scummy in particular due to their history and Steve's trusting her.
@dracuzura
Жыл бұрын
@@BlazingOwnager weren't they off at that point? it sure seemed like it. after all steve left her at the party and nancy was clearly unhappy in the relationship
@Idontevenknowanymore345
Жыл бұрын
I mean can’t blame her both of them are FINE af
@vedjoshi260
7 ай бұрын
I don't know about Bad, but one thing for sure is NANCY is the most 'BAD'ASS person in the series. If i was in the place, i would surely join hands with Nancy coz only Nancy and Robin had brains and were always at their besttt🤌🏻🤌🏻
@lorivera94
11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say "Bad Person". I would rather say "Flawed Person".
@nuggetbox9245
Жыл бұрын
She's not evil probably just being immature in her relationships, she's still kind to her friends like the time where she asked Dustin for a dance because she saw him crying on the bench.
@fabicooch7291
Жыл бұрын
Mmm yeah but also “theres a slice left if you want it, its sausage and pepperoni!” Iykyk
@_the_rizzler
Жыл бұрын
@@fabicooch7291 Tbf, she was just a teenager being annoyed by her preteen brother's preteen friend. She matured a lot after that
@miaaaalauren7854
Жыл бұрын
Yes but why am I still mad that she did not care at all at first when will went missing and was being so mean at like the very very beginning of the show 😭💀also it’s at least a little bit her fault for leaving Barbara 🤷🏻♀️ but I haven’t finished the show yet so she probably gets better
@milesmorales_4484
Жыл бұрын
@@miaaaalauren7854 She didn’t leave Barb lol
@milesmorales_4484
Жыл бұрын
@@miaaaalauren7854 nd she did care for will
@mimib5151
Жыл бұрын
Nancy isn’t a bad person. She has romantic relationship problems but she cares about people. Plus when he went to apologize it was because he left when she was drunk.
@pancakesisbetterthanwaffles
Жыл бұрын
Fax
@lachlanmclennan2188
Жыл бұрын
If you're a cheater, you're a bad person. Simple as.
@hannahspencer9857
Жыл бұрын
And because Nancy wanted to tell Barb’s parents what happened to her but Steve told her not to
@Mimsadoodle
Жыл бұрын
@@hannahspencer9857 Yeah, because they could’ve DIED, there wasn’t a selfish reason behind it.
@dextyrio
Жыл бұрын
She really doesn't care fir her friends though 😅 she cared about barb after she died same with fred. But as they were alive she didn't really care for them 😂
@upasona.9729
3 ай бұрын
nancy might be a bad character throughout season 1-2 but her character development in season 3 and 4 was amazing, so was steve's.
@Yourfavitalian.
Жыл бұрын
She called the relationship bullsh.t because she was drunk-
@MrVimtomelon
11 ай бұрын
yeah and being drunk revealed the secret
@WillowtheMuppet
7 ай бұрын
Okay, but even sober, she couldn't say she loved him..
@GeographyGeek
Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t she supposed to be like a sophomore in high school though? I’d say it’s pretty realistic for the age. A selfish & immature move.
@hdudhehdhd2222
Жыл бұрын
Eh idk almost all ppl that age understand not to cheat
@lyonelle_
Жыл бұрын
@@hdudhehdhd2222 doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen
@riley073
Жыл бұрын
@@lyonelle_ doesnt mean its common
@nodienoswore2424
Жыл бұрын
@@hdudhehdhd2222 it happens alot tho, happened to me…
@joeosah1254
Жыл бұрын
@@nodienoswore2424 so you don't cheat anymore?
@uli9947
Жыл бұрын
Personally I just see her as a highschool girl who is mixed up in her feeling and wants them both to see her as cool or powerful
@XENOMATTER-rq8bi
Жыл бұрын
“Mixed up” is a nice way to say hoe
@dsbeats5657
Жыл бұрын
LOL you gotta be a girl right because that is the nicest way to say a jerk ever
@dely-sr8oh
Жыл бұрын
doesnt matter tho, still bad lmaoo
@danialrafiee3398
Жыл бұрын
Mixed up is new bitch
@666numberofthebeast
Жыл бұрын
Right She's a teen and is allowed to be confused . Probably won't marry either and the moment guys get a chance to cheat most will sooo gotta have fun too while young
@oglatnik
11 ай бұрын
Can we just stop this “bad person”, “good person” already? GOD, I hate cancel culture …
@JohnDoe-kn7ex
3 ай бұрын
It’s a fictional character
@TheProtagonist37
2 ай бұрын
Nancy isn't a bad person, she's just a bad girlfriend. Otherwise, she's shown to be very kind in general.
@JudyBringsUTheHorizo
Жыл бұрын
Still love her. Apart from her relationships she's really sweet. I always think of the scene where she dances with Dustin when noone wanted to dance with him. People can be good people even when they're not perfect in every life situation :)
@elcidabiera9751
Жыл бұрын
Periodt.
@rattling.casket
Жыл бұрын
That's why he said "kind of" bc shes a bad girlfriend,, but not a fully bad person
@OGbluetooth_
Жыл бұрын
Not perfect? That is FAR from not perfect lmao
@user-fm3tr3oe1k
Жыл бұрын
Fr, there are no good or bad people. Just people doing good and bad. And id say she definitely did more good than bad
@channonmock
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@cursedsoul2217
Жыл бұрын
Finally someone said it. Nancy isn't over all evil or anything like that, but she isn't considerate towards the feelings of Steve and Jonathan in their relationship. It's selfish of her to be with Steve when she didn't genuinely love him, and the same thing with Jonathan. She doesn't communicate with her significant other that she is losing interest in them when she should be and continues to flirt with the other guy. It also annoyed me that she got jealous of Robin and was being rude to her when she's not even in a relationship with Steve and is currently with Jonathan.
@theresabrewer925
Жыл бұрын
Cool but I'm not going to read all that
@cursedsoul2217
Жыл бұрын
@@theresabrewer925 it's cool, you don't need to. In short I don't like her.
@Shreya0603
Жыл бұрын
omg ikr I felt so bad for Robin I mean Nancy was in a relationship with Jonathan and Robin is free to be in a relationship even she isn't into boys that was rlly rude and it make me wanna punch her ,Robin was literally trying to talk to her to fix the relationship like really doing her best te be nice but Nancy was very rude
@cursedsoul2217
Жыл бұрын
@@Shreya0603 Right?! It annoyed me so much. Robin didn't need to be going out of her way to reassure Nacy that there was nothing romantic between her and Steve.
@brooklyn.to.cool24
Жыл бұрын
I agree she was never my favorite character and she just seems like she’s switching feelings a lot it’s hard to tell who she likes plus when she was jealous of robin,robin tried to tell her she was gay but Nancy wasn’t understanding Edit:I think Nancy should be single honestly
@timmyravenscroft6897
Жыл бұрын
She’s not a bad person.She just realized how much Steve has grown up and got more mature.And betters his life up.
@MegaMilenche
10 ай бұрын
So, now she wants him? Hell, no. If he grew up, made his life better, then he deserves better, too.
@Luckystars_the1nonly
9 ай бұрын
@@MegaMilenche exactly. She doesn’t deserve to just get what she wants every time she sees their being a good person and are available. He deserves so much better than her and I wish he would reject her in s5 because she needs to feel the pain she put him through already. And the pain of loving someone and that person hurting you badly. Imagine somebody you loved and wasted your time being with walked up to you and said,”I basically never loved you when I got back with you. I was just using you as a distraction because I want someone else who’s been taking pictures of my privacy.” The pain Steve felt,she deserves so much worse. She never matured throughout with the show. She mainly cared about Jonathan and never accepted the fact she should be alone to work on herself and become better. She’s not badass really because she’s never even been single the whole show. She jumps back and forth not even caring about others feelings and that she comes from a family that can’t express love. Now she’s not mature and Steve is so she’s like,”oh he’s mature now? Damn,he kinda fine. I want him now.” How’s that even fair? After all his character development? And she is a shitty person. What kind of person does that to someone who truly loved them? She cheats on him,she doesn’t appreciate him,she says the relationship is bull crap and that she only wanted him to distract herself from a person who was taking disgusting pictures of her,didn’t think Steve was right for putting Jonathan in his place for literally stalking her and invading her privacy when she was with someone,couldn’t even be thankful that he saved both of their lives and could’ve died for them,and then wanted him when he was mature. Why? Why does Steve even have feelings for her still,I feel terrible for him and he needs a girl. To feel for Nancy,he’s terribly desperate and needs true love besides her. He tried apologized when he did nothing in season 2. He fixed his mistakes and she never fixed anything. She’s weak without someone by her side,she’s not as bad as she and the fans think she is. She needs to be alone until she’s mature. I literally broke when he said,”so you don’t love me?” Get him true love in season 5,just not Nancy 😭 And I’m so sorry for the long comment I tried my best to give everything she did that makes her a bad person.
@MegaMilenche
9 ай бұрын
@@Luckystars_the1nonly It sucks that they chose to force this whole "Steve is still in love with Nancy and she is getting flustered by him in season 4 because Jonathan is useless". In the first place, I don't get why they wrote that she breaks up with him in season 2, only because actress was already dating Jonathan IRL ? In any case, it was best for Steve's growth. I just wish they would get him a new girl, not Nancy again. She and Jonathan need to sort their own shit together.
@SlayStanleyUrine
3 ай бұрын
No one gonna talk about how he flashed Nancy with horns on her head?
@aqualms
Жыл бұрын
this is literally how most high school relationships are. Sorry, that's just, literally it's how it is. It sucks but it doesn't make them bad people, just their actions. If they continue to grow and don't change, then it's not so great. But also, no one has to "wait" for anyone.
@iaminsideyourhome69
Жыл бұрын
@@Shifter-hg2ch do you expect kids to act like adults or something they're accurate representations of how teens act lmao
@Ogshantel
Жыл бұрын
I love Nancy but just to be clear, just cause high schoolers do these stuff in highschool doesn’t make it right for everyone else to do the same. Always try to be better, if you’re in a relationship and u get hurt multiple times then you’ll obviously see them as a bad person. it’s just that simple, but also Nancy doesn’t carry all of the fault here, she was distraught and I get it. She wasn’t mentally there
@KatherineMyers1218
Жыл бұрын
Tell that to Olivia Rodrigo (fans)💀
@jalisaford3756
Жыл бұрын
Not just high school most adults act like this too
@shanzahafrinchowdhury7042
Жыл бұрын
Wow so just bc other ppl do it it's okay? I bet you do this too. It's basically just saying other ppl bully so it makes it ok for you to bully bad person like pls
@flamevix
Жыл бұрын
When you're a teen, relationships are confusing and messy. Sometimes you can't sort your own feelings, and you aren't able to have mature communication about what you want to say. We have to remember that she also associates a relationship with Steve with extreme guilt because of the loss of her friend when they first got together. She was staying with him for the wrong reasons because of that guilt. And that was why she called their relationship "bullsh!t" when she was drunk. At the time, he also wasn't regarding her feelings on the matter, because she was still going through the grief of it in the trauma. Also, she didn't actually cheat on Steve. They were on a break, but it was implied that it was more than that and just kinder to say otherwise. Now that we have seen Steve and his character development, it is possible that he can be a better partner in the future. We're already seeing some lack of communication between Nancy and Jonathan, which shows that their relationship might be in trouble down the line. So if Steve and Nancy do you get back together, we can only hope that they'll both be more mature and it'll be the right person, right time at that point. (UPDATED NOTES: If my comment offended anyone who didn't read past the first couple sentences, then don't bother commenting that you disagree, or that you aren't going to read the rest, because the first sentences aren't even the full point. (Not to mention, comprehension skills are key given the word, "Sometimes" being included. If you don't understand that, my condolences.) Also, if the roles were reversed and Steve was in Nancy's place, I would still feel the same. I don't understand why their gender matters in this case. If he lost a friend and was with someone out of guilt, then met someone he actually felt better around, it's the same. I also do not applaud Nancy's actions. I am not justifying her decision regarding Steve. It was my impression from watching the episode in question that their relationship was doomed. She was a mess, and (as mentioned in my original statement) she was undergoing grief and other emotions she couldn't sort out. Should she have ended things absolutely before she got with someone else? Yes, 100%. She clung to Jonathan and found herself in a messy situation. But she made a stupid decision and that's what makes her human. And gives opportunity for character growth, which we've seen on both ends of Nancy and Steve (more so Steve). The final point here is, she is a teenager CHARACTER, written by adults based on how they think a teen would act in the 80's. The actress is not a teen, obviously, but she's supposed to be and that's how you have to view her when discussing her decisions. I'm sorry if any teens were offended in the comments from my first statement, but speaking as someone with experience of literally having been a teenager in the past, looking back it's absolutely not inaccurate. Just enjoy being a kid and not worrying about what silly people like me on the internet say. Have a great day. :)
@rashawntaylor2938
Жыл бұрын
Excuses Excuses Excuses 😴
@psio4213
Жыл бұрын
@@rashawntaylor2938 An explanation isn’t an excuse lmfao.
@zuzupurple4494
Жыл бұрын
Well said
@miss.chessur9554
Жыл бұрын
Amen
@deeznties3900
Жыл бұрын
Yes
@osvelit
6 ай бұрын
you guys gotta remember that shes like maybe 17-19 throughout the series. nobody that age makes the correct decisions for relationships, and plenty of people her age do it too. cut her some slack. nobody has the answers here. i don't think all of this makes her like an objectively bad person or even abnormal wrong. people do bad things because emotions are confusing, and throughout all of this, theres a whole bunch of trauma and really powerful emotions that can warp our ability to rationally think or process how we feel. basically, she's human lol. and people call her bad because shes not superhuman
@TentaIsMyName
3 ай бұрын
No people call her bad because she cheated on Steve and pulled a gun on him
@osvelit
3 ай бұрын
@@TentaIsMyName cheating on someone with the person you trauma bonded with is, again, something a teenager is probably going to do because, again, she's a teenager going through unimaginably stressful situations and latched onto the only safe harbor around, jonathan. all of that makes sense completely and calling someone a bad person because of that is just you getting mad at her for not being inhuman and perfectly rational lol also she pointed the gun at Steve so he would leave and not get fucking killed by the demogorgon, literally the direct opposite of a bad person
@bickyam
11 ай бұрын
We all have flaws. She has her flaws. Calling her a bad person is an overreaction. No matter, I still love her. -Steve Harrington
@whoknows4780
Жыл бұрын
If Nancy wheeler is your definition of a “bad” person, then very few of us are good.
@user-qb4ke6gm5b
Жыл бұрын
Well that shouldnt be the case lmaoo. People make choices💀
@apexcrypto01
Жыл бұрын
You're right. Very few of you are good.
@thiagobarbosa1265
Жыл бұрын
She was willing to go to “hell” to save her ex. If she is “bad” NO ONE is good
@ArtyKibbles2190
Жыл бұрын
She did cheat in a relationship so even though she is decent or good in other parts of her character cheating just isn’t right.
@michaelmooneyham9478
Жыл бұрын
@@thiagobarbosa1265 you’re right, none of us are good. Man are not, and have never been, good
@Bozza36
Жыл бұрын
I don't mind Nancy, but I really hope Steve doesn't end up with her.
@tinydreamerrr
Жыл бұрын
why? I think alot of people like them than nancy and jonathan.
@Bozza36
Жыл бұрын
@@tinydreamerrr Because I'd rather see Steve with someone fun like Robin (that is attracted to guys).
@robertjv
Жыл бұрын
I would rather wnat Robin to be his soul mate, but after knowing her being lisbian was a suprised
@maybeitsmen
Жыл бұрын
No they belong together
@ArtyKibbles2190
Жыл бұрын
@@tinydreamerrr because Steve deserves someone better
@TheExhaustipatedBookworm
2 ай бұрын
She definitely started out as bad person. But how can you call her bad for her relationships. She protected her brother and his friends. She was genuinely in tears when she saw a vision of her family die and many other people too. She went to Upside Down, to prevent One from killing more people, including her friends and family. Steve is an example of dynamic character, from a bully to fully realized protagonist of the show.
@CreepyNightmare.
3 ай бұрын
If Season 5 is last season, it would be empty without steve in a healthy relationship.
@velda_gm2400
Жыл бұрын
Nancy didnt cheat on Steve they broke up after their arguement
@kunjalgorule9109
Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's like Ross saying "We were on a break."
@beepboop4016
Жыл бұрын
I mean they never actually did if u think back to the scene of Dustin making Steve drive him somewhere. They never officially broke up but Steve didn’t care cuz he loved her which Good on him cuz I would’ve been mad like if u wanna be over say it don’t dance around it which she did. I like Nancy now but my god was she annoying for a bit
@laylarose3505
Жыл бұрын
They never officially broke up all that happened was they were in an arguement
@passthedutchie4873
Жыл бұрын
@@beepboop4016 steve literally was about to get with robin
@kiddia9164
Жыл бұрын
@@passthedutchie4873 true
@robinbuckley4254
Жыл бұрын
She’s a bad person in like relationships with like boyfriends and stuff, but otherwise she’s a good kind person and she cares for people and she’s very polite.
@Lilianna.M.R
Жыл бұрын
Yep I agree with you Robin
@shreejaroy3578
Жыл бұрын
Yo robin! F steve and Jonathan YOU should Ask out Nancy.
@bologna2079
Жыл бұрын
@@shreejaroy3578 fr
@imrankolasinac7492
Жыл бұрын
Yea like that time she danced with Dustin when she saw him being sad when he didn't have a date literally proves it
@randombush3031
Жыл бұрын
@@imrankolasinac7492 yeah my respect gained a lot for Nancy seeing that
@alanjonesp9563
3 ай бұрын
I loved the part where he said "Its not true that Nancy Wheeler is kind of a bad person..."
@alifeinmikaworld4999
9 ай бұрын
She’s a cheater
@jackienalee7517
Жыл бұрын
Nancy isn't evil, she grew up in a household where there really wasn't an example of healthy romantic love, and on top of that she doesn't genuinely love Steve. You can't just blatantly say a character is something without understanding the context of the character. Sure what she did was awful, but it's also important to consider that she's just a teenager, and she does try her best.
@4gal0re45
Жыл бұрын
there is a fine line between evil and bad. You can’t just say that about a video without realizing the context of it. What Nancy does is bad. It’s close enough to cheating if it isn’t just that. Nobody cares if she’s a teenager. I have no idea why this generation uses that excuse of being a teen/minor to rationalize any bad that comes there way. You said it yourself, what she did was bad. And that’s that. Regardless of what age she is.
@nburkeofficials3013
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure in season 4 they basically outright said that she is in love with Steve. They had multiple subtle moments and she dived into the portal with no concern for her own wellbeing on behalf of Steve, even eddie acknowledges this.
@CoolArrow78233
Жыл бұрын
Not an excuse
@camokittie9964
Жыл бұрын
@@CoolArrow78233 you'd beat a child for stealing a cookie huh?
@joce_2012
Жыл бұрын
@@nburkeofficials3013 idk if she is actually in love with him. I think she loves him and I genuinely believe Nancy would have jumped in the water with no concern of herself for anyone she loved, Mike, El, Max, Dustin, even Robin. Like she does genuinely care for people you see this in the way interacts with El or how she wanted to make Dustin feel better during the dance. I just think she cares about her friends and would do anything for them. I think Eddie might have pointed that out for the reason that Steve was sad and feeling bad about his situation and you act like Nancy was the only one that did it. Like Robin right in too after Nancy without concern for herself after Nancy went in she didn't hesitate and just jumped right in to help I mean by Eddie's logic in that scene that would be Robin in love Nancy and though I'm all for a happy Ronance (Nancy x Robin) story I don't believe Robin was in love with Nancy at this point in the show anyways. And we already know Eddie only because he was afraid to be left alone, at least that's what he said. I personally think Eddie did genuinely want to help and save Steve and the other girls as well because we know he really does care about people and humanity. Idk I kind of think of Eddie with the personality or Robin and like looks of Nancy but that's what I say lol. It is kind of true though his this confident weirdo who is unapologetically themselves, hmm remind of someone *cough* Robin *cough* but he has long brown curly hair and pretty doe eyes like Nancy lol it I totally see it lol anyways that went way off topic point is we can't really say for sure especially since it was the only straight forward line/scene about Nancy being in love and by Eddie's logic in that scene he would also be saying that Robin in love with Nancy so... Idk just my thoughts. I think the writing put it in there to make us think we should take it literally but logically we shouldn't. Idk again just my opinion but I love reading people's thoughts. Even if don't always agree with them I love how everybody thinks differently
@SukushiKuma
Жыл бұрын
Also the fact that in Season 1 where Jonathan took pictures of Nancy and steve doing it at his house, and is surprised when steve gets mad . Like how!
@oksarah3334
Жыл бұрын
RIGHT
@_bee___
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! No one seems to mention it.
@whyhellothered5907
Жыл бұрын
she was mad at him because he escalated the situation and broke Jonathans property. He only got pictures of Nancy tho, so Nancy should be the one to choose how to deal with the situation. She was shocked at the fact that he took them, but was even more upset at the fact that they started to basically harass as bully him. I’m not really seeing much of a point with your argument.
@aldendomino3523
Жыл бұрын
@@whyhellothered5907 nah, he was taking pictures of all of them, the fact his body didn't get in the shot is irrelevant
@whyhellothered5907
Жыл бұрын
@@aldendomino3523 I understand that, he only got pictures of Nancy in a bra tho, she’s the only one in a revealing picture so she should be the one to deal with it. The way steve and his former friends handled the situation was childish, they bullied him and broke his camera which he clearly cared for. Nancy wasn’t even that upset about it, which makes their reaction to the pictures very childish and unnecessary.
@Turtle_Emma10
3 ай бұрын
let’s just remember, at the party, she was drunk and had no sense of what she was saying, and probably barely remembered the argument
@amberswigert4290
10 ай бұрын
I always thought Steve was a bad person but that makes way more sense. He actually seems like a good dude now
@zoehawkins8271
Жыл бұрын
nancy was under the influence of alcohol (something which i'm pretty sure she wasn't super experienced with) when she said that her and steve's relationship was bullsh*t.
@skater6934
Жыл бұрын
Drunk actions are sober thoughts
@MasterMike_
Жыл бұрын
Think's you say while you'r drunk don't come out of no where,these are things you actually think
@dailycupofizzy
Жыл бұрын
@@skater6934 the point is that she didn’t mean to say it.
@carolinegraham3187
Жыл бұрын
@@dailycupofizzy yeah and yet she was still in the relationship? That is kinda horrible to date someone when u think it’s bullshit
@whoami3862
Жыл бұрын
And she still didn’t say she loved him afterward
@benjamincordova8086
Жыл бұрын
It's almost like the characters are written like actually people with emotional conflict on purpose. crazy
@jashmanny1816
Жыл бұрын
its almost like no one is saying they aren't
@bakashinji
Жыл бұрын
It's almost like stranger things is one of the most mid shows to ever be written and the fanbase is horrible
@Poio_Freido
Жыл бұрын
So cheating on your SO is now called "emotional conflict", good to know.
@jcasma
Жыл бұрын
Nobody is complaining about that lmao
@jsh7939
Жыл бұрын
@@bakashinji I dont like it THAT much but theres no need to come for the whole thing in a random comment section on a youtube short. Let people enjoy things lmao.
@gunuuuu
Жыл бұрын
There is no good and bad person, they just do good and bad person according to their situations.
@kavring7
3 ай бұрын
I just now remembered when dustin was alone at the dance then nancy came to dance with him🥲
@alyxa2736
Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't forget that she doesn't freely got to see real love in that kind of way because her parents don't show much love to each other or say it so maybe it's just hard for her and mike also
@gingechicken7394
Жыл бұрын
Every main character has been through so much trauma, it's a miracle they can figure out how to have anything like a normal relationship tbh
@laylarose3505
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that doesn't get anyone an excuse to cheat, there other people in the series who lots of trauma or no real example of love such as Jonathan, Will, Mike, El, Max, and Billy. But that still doesn't excuse any of their actions. Every single on of them either has parents who are divorced or parents who dont love each other or like El just hasn't seen love in that way. So having no real example of love in your life does not mean you have the excuse to cheat on people or not treat them as they deserve
@nuggetsays5597
Жыл бұрын
shes not the only one who has exposure to parental conflict in the show-
@Honored_one-oi9ps
Жыл бұрын
Right after that Steve asked her if she meant all of it and she did not deny it
@Paige_wilbur2708
Жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh thank you for this comment
@Pistachios36
Жыл бұрын
I think it's just realistic. Relationships are messy, especially when you're a teenager
@N3c777
Жыл бұрын
To be honest it doesn’t really feel like Nancy Steve and Johnathan are teenagers. In part because they’re not irl, but partly because of their actions. One moment they’re stupid teenagers and the next they all become highly intelligent badasses fighting governments and monsters. The dichotomy feels too large imo.
@TheUnknownPleasures
Жыл бұрын
If Nancy is a bad person, so it's Steve. But Steve is the fandom boy, so everything it's ok. Being teen has never be an excuse to being jerk
@danialrafiee3398
Жыл бұрын
Jerk is jerk
@poorlyeditedredneckv1nce527
Жыл бұрын
@@TheUnknownPleasures yes but steve grew as a person. Nancy really didn’t. The directors are just good at hiding it.
@Amor_fati.Memento_Mori
Жыл бұрын
Realistic and inexcusable. I don't think adults are any better tbh.
@WhiteRabbit107
3 ай бұрын
Nancy isn't a bad person in terms of character traits- She is a affable person with immense knowledge and solved mysteries with groups in each season. She is good at weapon and combat. She is also a female protangist. In terms in relationship, you are definitely making a point and i agree but it's doesn't changes her character to be detrimental.
@Stranger_stuff471
17 күн бұрын
Nancy has a lot of trauma from barb. It wasn’t her fault that Steve was being a jerk about it. Steve in season 1 was the worst character so I don’t blame her for wanting to break up
@walrusk0ng603
Жыл бұрын
There is a difference between having a hard time understanding romance and love than being a bad person.
@demonizedhuman941
Жыл бұрын
A bad person is someone who does bad things to others. So if u have hard times understanding love then don't be in relationships. Don't play with the emotions of others and not expect to be called a bad person. Take some accountability for ur actions.
@luqboyslamoseni6243
Жыл бұрын
She cheated..
@mogar4099
Жыл бұрын
Having a hard time at understanding romance? There ain't no excuse for cheating don't try to justify it.
@carvered7291
Жыл бұрын
yeah yeah she for sure just “had a hard time understanding romance” definitely a perfectly good excuse to cheat, just because she’s not evil and a protagonist doesn’t mean she’s a terrible person
@apoorvajayaprakash4344
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment
@mischarowe
Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the "starts an argument" was when she was drunk. And she was having an emotional time because of what happened to Barb.
@thepossessedfilms
Жыл бұрын
She isn’t a bad person she just doesn’t find love that easy and that doesn’t mean she is a bad person, even tho she “cheats” on someone just means she was confused
@AgentNoobEdits
2 ай бұрын
Yea she called the relationship bull when she was drunk.
@Elli.007
Жыл бұрын
She didn't cheat on Steve, because the two weren't together anymore when she and Jonathan kissed (…)
@eze5471
Жыл бұрын
Yes they were lol u need to go give s2 a rewatch
@itsyoboicp
Жыл бұрын
@@eze5471 bruh u didn’t watch it Nancy went to Steve after practice and that’s when they broke up
@christyhebenstreit168
Жыл бұрын
no they didn’t cheat, steve even said they weren’t dating anymore.
@fizzigigsimmer6090
Жыл бұрын
Bruh they were together. They had a fight and it was clear their relationship might be over but neither one of them had actually pulled the plug yet. Steve literally shows up at her house intending to work on their relationship. But after everything goes down with the upside down bullshit and he sees how she looks at Jonathan, he was the one who finally pulled the plug and was nice about it because he is a nice guy. But it has always bothered me that he never knew she'd already slept with Jonathan by that point without officially ending her relationship with him. I like Nancy, but it was a dick move and I'd say so to any friend who treated their boyfriend this way.
@mashiatsuha6215
Жыл бұрын
Yes, not everything has to be actually literal, it was very clear that their relationship has run its course. Steve still wanted to make it work but they weren't meant to be like nancy and Jonathon are. Hope the writers don't mess it up
@JackieDaytona01
Жыл бұрын
I see more of a confused girl who doesn’t know what she wants honestly, this is actually typical in younger women who don’t know if they want a relationship or to be single kinda see different guys! This is why i always tell people a little younger than me to wait for a serious relationship till your near late 20s because your taste and likes will change by the time your 25 and the person you fell in love with at teens or early 20s you’ll mostly likely end up falling out of love do to you’ve changed a lot by the time your 25!
@whoville1064
Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t matter if you’re type changes or if you fall out of love.. what matters is when that happens, you need to understand when it’s time to let that relationship go and move on instead of being a crappy person and cheating or just playing around with someone.. love can be just as real at a a young age as it can be as you get older, the difference is how you love someone and how you treat them.. instead of telling someone they should “wait” until they’re older to be in a relationship, you should give them genuine advice about the right and wrongs in a relationship and how to treat someone properly.. if you fall in love, you can’t help that.. so why would you tell someone to put off those feelings.. also young relationships often teach you important lessons and someone can definitely learn from their past relationships when they were young, that end up helping them in the long run..
@Stubert653
Жыл бұрын
You are giving the worst advice ever. If you "play the field" until your late 20s ALL the good men will have been snatched up by smarter women. Enjoy the f*ck boys and men with kids from someone else at that time.
@nothanks1239
Жыл бұрын
This is also why slut shaming is wrong. Women feel like they have to be in a relationship, or be shamed. When in reality, most girls aren't ready for a serious relationship and just want to fuck around. Us girls really aren't all that different from boys, yet society will try and make out that we are.
@gallowglass3764
Жыл бұрын
@@whoville1064 or skip all of that heartache and focus on a career. Or read a good book instead. That works pretty good, too.
@whoville1064
Жыл бұрын
@@gallowglass3764 Yeah, but that needs to be something you WANT to do.. I was talking about the original comment at hand, the topic wasn’t about people who would rather focus on academics.. that was my point.. nobody should be telling young girls to not love, they should be guiding them through that..
@NickEh30Showts
9 ай бұрын
i love how its like a pattern s1 - jonathan s2 - steve s3 - jonathan s4 - steve like gurl pick something
@maelguiraud3568
8 ай бұрын
yeah she picked jonathan ?
@gavinsomerville7690
Ай бұрын
Billy was such a complex character, it’s awful they wasted his potential. He had and still has so much potential.
@wufeez1499
Жыл бұрын
Never let em know your next move: Johnathan cheats on nancy with steve 😍
@Thebiggestbirdofficial
Жыл бұрын
Unexpected ending
@ryukisamazing
Жыл бұрын
@@Thebiggestbirdofficial Good ending unlocked
@k.b.4264
Жыл бұрын
Lol this would be awesome 😂
@liaskye_
Жыл бұрын
In relationships, she jumped in a lake, A LAKE. With no hesitation to save Stev.
@shamlaAK
Жыл бұрын
From the show one of things i could understand is that Nancy would risk her life for anyone be it steve,jonathan,mike or any of her friends.
@liaskye_
Жыл бұрын
@@shamlaAK Yea
@alix3314
Жыл бұрын
I don't really think that means she's in love with him, that just means she's a good person.
@sanaluv4487
Жыл бұрын
She would do that for anyone in the show...she is a nice person so
@Ipan_Shiroi
Жыл бұрын
@@alix3314 yea the comment didn't say she was in love.
@NUTZ_EDITZ.
Ай бұрын
If you pause and go to the start there’s a poster of Nancy as the devil 💀
@Sad_gurl
11 ай бұрын
Steve deserves better
@spongebobsquarepants7837
Жыл бұрын
Whenever it comes to her relationship with Jonathan, the whole thing bugs me because he was taking pictures or her and Steve without permission and it was very much stalker vibes.
@maybeitsmen
Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry they getting back together
@jes2540
Жыл бұрын
But Steve also coerced her into sex when she very much wasn't ready then "slut shamed" her around town. Not to mention after her best friend goes missing he shows no concern and Even tells her not to tell the cops about the alcohol because getting in trouble was more important to him. Even if he made up for it, she was scarred more by his treatment than what Johnathan did. And both of them admitted what they did was wrong which is better than a lot of normal men. Johnathan should not have done that, but El shouldn't have hit that bully, and Eddie shouldn't have tried to hit on Chrissy since she's a minor and he isn't, then taking her to his house in the middle of the night, Steve and Robin never should have gotten children involved in the Russia stuff, literally every single thing about Billy is gross, perverted and abusive. All of them do creepy, pervy things.
@bruhdon4748
Жыл бұрын
But it’s okay because him being a creep helped solve the mystery of the demigorgen lol i love how it’s never addressed that Jonathan was straight up stalking them and taking photos of them all in a pool lol
@sunnyblack3359
Жыл бұрын
The fact that she got in a relationship with him despite that makes me confidently say that she is just freaky like that
@iv589
Жыл бұрын
@@sunnyblack3359 well Jonathan really didn’t see the photos as like “sexual” and she probably knew that
@KhloeRos3
Жыл бұрын
And then Steve had every right to feel the way he did , Jonathan was literally stalking them and took unsolicited pictures of them..that literally a crime 💀
@simplysilverRBLX
Жыл бұрын
Finally, someone understands!
@arkhuntertoxic
Жыл бұрын
Don't watch the show but saw the scene so don't know if im missing anything but: I wanna point out, they were massive print outs. That he had in his bag, of her changing. It was far more disturbing since he didn't destory it afterward but kept it. And I never see that fact brought up
@daizzz5348
Жыл бұрын
@@arkhuntertoxic oh damn . Now it feels really creepy lookin back to the teen Jonathan .
@arkhuntertoxic
Жыл бұрын
@@daizzz5348 agreed, also when thought about I believe if I remember correctly, he is given the benefit of the doubt because he is looking for his brother. From the people being photo graphed perspective he's the weird kid that stalked them from the bushes for who knows how long, took pictures of them changing. Saying he was looking for his brother doesn't justify it either since they know they are innocent and he kept the creep shot specifically. On top of all that, if I remember the photo correctly he took it with her changing as the focus, which has nothing to do with anything related to his search for his brother and is simply just a personally taken creep shot.
@pandagal9805
Жыл бұрын
@@arkhuntertoxic Yes! I did not like his character in the first season at all, and hated the fact that Nancy got with him despite the fact that she knew he took pics of her. He didn't need to take a photo of the other teens at the party, and he didn't need to take a pic of half naked Nancy. Its also the fact that he printed the photo on a huge piece of paper, and was planning on taking those pics home for god knows what.
@violetstarpz862
Ай бұрын
Plot twist: Jonathan and steve fall in love-💀
@myerofficial
Жыл бұрын
Okay but nobody likes to address the fact that Jonathan was very much a creep. I hate the fact how Nancy and him started dating
@crocro9931
Жыл бұрын
"Misunderstands her friendship?" He literally caught the dude stalking her house and taking half naked photos of her. I think he reacted pretty normally
@randomselfimprovementchann1304
Жыл бұрын
@NONE you cant tell me you wouldnt react the same way as steve if you found out a guy was outside ur house at night time taking photos of you while you were abt to have sex
@angrypolishonion673
Жыл бұрын
@NONE nah dude he only followed her to a party he wants invited to and took pictures of her and barb while hiding in the bushes, totally not stalking her
@aerea4759
Жыл бұрын
@NONE After rewatching s1 I've got to say that the only bad thing he does is the slandering under his idiot friends influence. Other then that he's a stand up guy
@aerea4759
Жыл бұрын
@NONE I had the same impression initially, but on the second watch he didn't seem like bad at all
@user-gm1ck7zt3v
Жыл бұрын
Nancy led Steve on by the end of season 1 and at the beginning of season 2. Nancy really liked Steve but she didn’t love him in season 1-2. Sure she can be bad at relationships but Steve wasn’t the perfect boyfriend - even he acknowledged this in the end of season 2. He kept dismissing Nancy’s guilt over Barb (due to their lives and families possibly being harmed; keep in mind Steve had daddy issues and his family knows nothing about the Upside Down) but Jonathan willingly helped her close the case. The thing is, these 3 aren’t perfect at all lol. There’s no need to pin the blame on Nancy and everyone should be mature enough to realize that.
@damncarti8337
Жыл бұрын
Ok but she keeps switchin between the two it just sounds like youre just tryna defend her for no reason
@itznav_sin
Жыл бұрын
@@damncarti8337 actually you sound like you want to tell her bad at any reason steve wasn one who humiliated her although she still come with Steve and he never left Jonathan how do you think so
@sam3_sam
Жыл бұрын
Fr, and people expect her to stay with Steve just cause he's in love with her. That is a toxic relationship waiting to happen, cause if she doesn't love him, she shouldn't be torturing herself into being with him
@Authorsophiespruce
Жыл бұрын
No, they’ve all messed up but I’m more willing to side with Steve since Nancy cheated on him and Jonathan participated, knowing Nancy was still with Steve. I personally just think Nancy is better off single until she matures. At least Steve has always owned up to his mistakes and apologized even in season 1.
@billaniii
Жыл бұрын
@@sam3_sam literally no one expected that, what are you talking abt. were talking abt the fact that she led him on and then cheated on him. She didnt need to stay with him, but the way she went about it is what made it wrong
@Catilynx
9 ай бұрын
This is very good point . Though most people hate Nancy becs of one mistake she made in S1
@ella-sj8bu
8 ай бұрын
i love nancy, she's just always romantically confused. but i don't blame her considering the life threatening situation they're always in lol
@rockmegently
Жыл бұрын
She sounds like a pretty normal person with complex emotions for me. She consistently rises to every challenge and has shown a lot of kindness to many of the characters on the show, especially Dustin at the end of the second season. While Steve was a genuine bully at the beginning of the show. But we like him because he changed. It’s okay for people to go through things, and make mistakes, and grow from things. Y’all really will hate on anyone these days.
@dts1813
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Most people are bad people.
@aluisfar4154
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but a good point to all of this, some people don't change
@jojo-nr5ir
Жыл бұрын
Idk why people write such long things to justify cheating, just stop, it's not good.
@giraffewhiskers2045
Жыл бұрын
@@jojo-nr5ir yeah but again we do things we don’t like.. I used to steal from my mom until I realized what it was doing to our relationship
@jojo-nr5ir
Жыл бұрын
@@giraffewhiskers2045 When I was younger I used to steal 10 dollars from my mom sometimes for a Playstation gift card but never once have I cheated on my girlfriends during that time.
@moonieland
Жыл бұрын
She's the type of person who wants to be loved which isn't a problem in itself. But she tends to leave people when she feels like she isn't getting the love she assumes she deserves. It probably comes from the fact that it's clear her parents aren't exactly happy together. People tend to base their perception of loving others and being loved off of those around them. She's a human with flaws, and unfortunately those flaws make her very bad at love and hurt those around her that do love her.
@that_evermore_stan
Жыл бұрын
like a better version of cassie
@saswatimukherjee3563
Жыл бұрын
You explained it so well. I kinda relate to this 💔
@SunilKumar-lf1qd
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you
@halaalaqeel1167
Жыл бұрын
My life LOL
@joeminier1736
10 ай бұрын
That’s why she should be alone to work on her insecurities before getting into a relationship.
@azharhussain5837
3 ай бұрын
she is so bad in relationships but she do not cheat on steve she get in relationship after break up with Steve and in season 4 she just looking at steve all time.she is not bad person she is my favourite character.she cared about barb and fred.she dance with Dustin when no one want too.she saves max from vecna and she save steve.she cared about max.she saved mike friends many time.she has good heart.
@SenpaiSays.
18 күн бұрын
Now Steve is the heart of Stranger Things ❤️
@blinktwice296
Жыл бұрын
This sounds like “Nancy bad cause Steve is my fav character.” All 3 did a really big oof, but the worst oof was definitely Steve. He did something that could start the entire town to bully her considering the size of the town and the times it took place. However, I’m not gonna say “Steve is kind of a bad person.” Nancy’s a great character individually, but the writers have no idea how to make her a decent person when it comes to her relationship
@eliasbailey12
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Steve I love. Nancy I love. Jonathan I love. Any of them in a relationship............... bad. No. Cringy. Jonathan especially is a great character on his own, but put him together with Nancy and I hate him. That's why I'm glad they were physically apart this season
@carmillaansaac9410
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, as much as I love steve you can't deny the fact that he was a bad person/boyfriend
@blinktwice296
Жыл бұрын
@@eliasbailey12 Jonathan and Nancy season 3 wasn’t so bad. It seemed real to me that they would argue but then own up to their mistakes. They would back each other up and I wouldn’t mind them being together at all. However, now they ruined Nancy by making her look at Steve. Let her and Steve grow and move on
@eliasbailey12
Жыл бұрын
@@blinktwice296 technically yes they were better but for me at least they still weren't enjoyable to watch whatsoever. I enjoy both their characters more apart. Same with Steve
@scientia.veritas
Жыл бұрын
How do you make the "good" part intrinsic to Nancy, but blame the "bad" part on the writers? If the writers say Nancy is bad at relationships, then that's what she is. You cannot act like "oh Nancy can have good relationships, it's just the pesky writers who stop her".
@jatin368
Жыл бұрын
You always blame Nancy, but why Steve is still pinning on her, it's not like she is forcing him to be her boyfriend again, love affair is from both sides 🤷♂️
@kyx.nom_kox8005
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but we're not saying Steve isnt bad were just pointing out why Nancy is. I love them both, but this video isn't saying Steve is good. It's just saying Nancy is bad.
@Kenyagirly
Жыл бұрын
@@christianclean8260 He has been pinning afther her the entire time of season 4 and he even told her about his dreams imao wtf you talking about
@penne4107
Жыл бұрын
@@christianclean8260 have you seen season 4😭
@andjelarakic1608
Жыл бұрын
Steve isn't gonna cheat on anybody by being with Nancy. He isn't really the one to blame in that case. Nancy is the one who will break Jonathan's heart by doing that. Because she decided to cheat on him and chose someone else over him. Though I still don't like people who are hooking up with those who have a partner while knowing that. But imagine that Johnathan and Steve don't know eachother at all and that Nancy decided to cheat on him with Steve. Steve isn't gonna break his heart at all. He doesn't even know him in that situation so he can't possibly feel hurt because it was him, but Nancy will. In this case Steve can only make Johnathan more mad and insecure as he was already in a relationship with Nancy before it. It's not really personal because those two never got along and aren't friends, so Steve can't betray him, but I guess he can hurt him in some type a way. He can intensify his grief.
@MasterMike_
Жыл бұрын
She is flirting with steve not the other way around
@ItsNice2HaveAFriend
2 ай бұрын
Reminder that she was drunk when she called the relationship BS
@Feasco
2 ай бұрын
it's almost like she's been processing trauma like a teenager would
@AwesomeAmaniEdits
6 ай бұрын
Nancy is my favourite character. I always feel so bad for Nancy, her trauma is so underrated and nobody in the show comforts her about it (eg when el is looking for will and Barb in her mind and she says Barb is gone no one notices Nancy’s panic and shock but cuts straight to where’s will and are you ok El) And if you’re gonna say “oh well it’s her fault she’s dead bc she told her to leave” they were being stupid teenagers, also how would she know that a huge monster with a face that opened up existed and was currently in hawkins?!
@maefae21
Жыл бұрын
I kinda like her struggles with love and finding out who she is. It’s realistic. She makes a lot of mistakes along the way because of her indecisiveness, and imo it humanizes her in a way. She’s a young and confused girl. I was in a similar situation as Nancy when I was younger. I was 18 and very confused, and I made some bad choices that hurt people I cared about. I don’t think I’m a bad person, because I learned from my mistakes. I don’t think Nancy is a bad person for it either. I just think she has a lot to learn.
@Poyocheri
Жыл бұрын
BRUH- ikkkk 😭😭 my days of being a minor was not that long ago and while Ik they look older I have to sit here and be like “wait- aren’t they super young..??? Why are people being so harsh??” People acting also like when you have toxic family members as well that it’s easy to understand right off the bat what is right and wrong in how to treat people in any form of relationship- I had to and have to actively work with myself to improve and get myself to be honest about my toxic traits and trying to improve and undo what was imprinted on me as a child
@ImOofTheOoffer
Жыл бұрын
Shes a bad person
@kibotheshibo7068
Жыл бұрын
She literally cheated on him and was laughing about it at breakfast the next morning. She's an L character and you just have poor taste
@ImOofTheOoffer
Жыл бұрын
@@kibotheshibo7068 lol exactly
@frimy740
Жыл бұрын
@@kibotheshibo7068 thanks
@ellak5106
Жыл бұрын
She wasn’t waiting for Jonathan to make a move. At that point she was still in denial that she even had feelings for Jonathan.
@marianaestrada869
Жыл бұрын
Uh did u not see season 2?
@marianaestrada869
Жыл бұрын
S2 E5 51:10 seconds remaining
@ellak5106
Жыл бұрын
@@marianaestrada869 I know but the person who made the video was saying she was waiting for Jonathan to make a move at the end of season 1.
@marythecontrarian
Жыл бұрын
She said she was waiting on him and would have dated him but moved on after a month. Meaning she and Steve took a break for a month and she wanted things to continue, she was aware of her feelings. She never said she was in denial.
@ellak5106
Жыл бұрын
Okay you guys are I just rewatched that episode from season 2
@cocojoliex
3 ай бұрын
I'm sure Steve is so in love with Nancy that he would even die if Nancy lived. In the fourth season, while Jonathan is in California she suddenly becomes very attached to Steve, they had many very romantic scenes in the fourth season and they even gave each other glances because they feel such a strong attraction that it broke my heart that Nancy jumped into his arms from Jonathan at the end of the fourth season, since he played with Steve by giving him illusions that they could be a couple again. And Jonathan admitted that he wants to finish Nancy in Slow Motion, which he believes is what Nancy deserves for playing with the two of them.
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