I loved this analysis. My takeaway is that Kisame went from Chump to Champ from Pt. I to Pt. II.
@SatorisYT
2 күн бұрын
Yessir!
@anonymousgamer5789
Күн бұрын
Nah this video was fire. I been needing a tier list like this. I WATCHED THE WHOLE333 VID
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
MY FUCKING GUY ✊🏻🔥
@UberRoot3294
2 күн бұрын
Don't u even try to let us down. We expect part two and three soon. Best Naruto ranking video on yt so far. Keep doing like that!
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
🔥✊🏻
@andrejrmusic
Күн бұрын
Bro the format is excellent
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
✊🏻🔥
@Metalhammer1993
2 күн бұрын
Bro the strongest character in the Konoha crush arc is that roof. Like I need that engineer and construction company for my house! That fucking roof helf kage level combat including 100s of tons off water and a freaking forest! (and yes I am serious, that water dragon was way past 100 tons of water)
@Necromancer4267
3 күн бұрын
Thank you for literally being the only other person in the world to ever acknowledge that the Akatsuki robes only have 1 sleeve in Part 1. Itachi isn't pulling his arm in for some weird flex or quirk, he's doing it because he doesn't have a fuckin sleeve to put his arm through.
@ExoticZah
3 күн бұрын
NewHorizons having over 20k subs is nasty work. Brother put that work in and left when we needed him most.
@ExoticZah
3 күн бұрын
TG came up real quick.
@mattjones8814
2 сағат бұрын
Those TG&NH collabs were so 🔥
@ExoticZah
2 сағат бұрын
@@mattjones8814 exactly
@braxton2089
6 сағат бұрын
great vid man! pt 2 always gets more focus power-scaling wise because of how crazy things get, so this was much needed in the community (plus i’ll take any excuse to have minato and itachi in a top three)
@ThunderGodTG
4 сағат бұрын
Appreciate that a ton my man ✊🏻🔥
@djdenson9614
2 күн бұрын
Aye big dawg, imma need the next two vids in this series
@asianflick1596
2 күн бұрын
Ong
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap
2 күн бұрын
boruto's grandpa fans eatin good
@jakeecker1648
2 күн бұрын
W video, can’t wait for part 2
@danielg.9075
Күн бұрын
This video was great, loved the visuals with all the 10 characters listed, it was a fun watch
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@Mimi-vv9gz
Күн бұрын
I love your videos - fair analyses, learn a bit every time - no elitism, not condescending at all to Naruto fans who aren't as familiar with the source , thank TG
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
My man ✊🏻🙏🏻🔥
@joshmceowen1558
Күн бұрын
This is a dope format for this content
@TheEternalFlame57
3 күн бұрын
Well well well, ThunderGod stealing again, man is nothing but a thief and a robber
@Julio9j11j
3 күн бұрын
"TG.... ThunderGod the copy youtuber" "It says he's copied over 1000 videos"
@retrohoops8302
3 күн бұрын
@@Julio9j11jbro😂😂
@TheEternalFlame57
3 күн бұрын
@@Julio9j11j LMAO THAT’S FUCKING GREAT 💀
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
AINT NO WAY WE DOING THIS WHEN EVERY MF USES MY IDEAS LMAOOO
@caleblowe1924
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG💀💀💀
@djdenson9614
2 күн бұрын
LMAO i listen to these vids EVERY time i do the dishes
@xero1048
2 күн бұрын
I loved this video, really interesting way to scale characters based on each arc and the current knowledge available at the time
@asa-z9o
Күн бұрын
W video man this is great…also that RIP had me scared bruh
@akhandtripathipyz9888
2 күн бұрын
Huge W for considering Hiruzen and all the sannin in similar power
@dragonknight1560
2 күн бұрын
This is an interesting power scaling... I do have an argument for it; I don't like the idea that you keep scaling those who died like Haku but I get why since they're the standard (the bar of the power system) and let's be honest, Haku might beat Final Valley Naruto and Sasuke if he's at full strength, no holding back. THAT'S... It kinda makes sense why later in the War Arc he's still such a threat. I look forward to Part 2... because OH BOY...
@sageofthickcalves
3 күн бұрын
Absolute W
@VCaccount1Celestials
3 күн бұрын
Bro where is your verification? 😭 u fell off bro
@sageofthickcalves
3 күн бұрын
@@VCaccount1Celestials how did I fall off 💀
@Sunnyvside
2 күн бұрын
My boy sage is in his bag rn
@VCaccount1Celestials
2 күн бұрын
@@sageofthickcalves mf ur content made me think u verified 🤦🏿♂️ hurry up and get more subs bruh
@sageofthickcalves
2 күн бұрын
@@Sunnyvside 🫡
@The_Worst_Guy_Ever
22 сағат бұрын
"He's a jonin that hides an ability that stands out in Konohsgakure" Things Kishimoto definitely forgot about for 500
@chasecunningham1514
22 сағат бұрын
amazing vid ngl
@ThunderGodTG
22 сағат бұрын
My man ✊🏻💰🫡
@thehdtv7552
2 күн бұрын
personally it's fine that initial kyubi Naruto is so strong because after in the forest of death, orochimaru tampers with the seal. Also that it's the first time that the chakra comes through so it comes through like a flood, whereas his body or the seal gets used to containing it.
@chandlercastillo8062
2 күн бұрын
You were in my pocket! Great video though man! Please do more!
@evolvedHE
2 күн бұрын
Great idea I enjoyed it, pls make 2 and 3
@jason15212
2 күн бұрын
I have to say that interaction between kakashi and kabuto is the most gassed moment in part 1 lol. People really use that to say kabuto may be stronger than kakashi or would have beaten him. I never understood it at all.
@bonzoluv
2 күн бұрын
I'd love to see a part 2. Also, You should do a video on Hokage that can be beaten by certain non-Hokage. The other Kage are usually portrayed as weaker than the Hokage but I'm sure there are other Kage that could beat a couple hokage
@zar0_69
2 күн бұрын
Commenting because I need this video to pop off and watch a second one 😊😊😊
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Ahh my man 🔥✊🏻
@Ideiagames
9 сағат бұрын
Cool video, when part 2?
@ThunderGodTG
4 сағат бұрын
Depends on how the vid does
@YCAProdigy
3 күн бұрын
The Kisame disrespect is DIABOLICAL!! 😭
@ThunderGodTG
3 күн бұрын
I stg Kishimoto did him dirty in P1 he’s not usable bro
@Rdc_Dom
3 күн бұрын
No Shippuden scaling, he's below Kakashi
@TLKTME
3 күн бұрын
@@Rdc_Dom damn😭
@adamtraan
Күн бұрын
great video, the only thing I would note is that I don’t agree with placing Sakumo over Itachi due to the fact that Sakumo was hailed to be stronger than the Sannin over 13 years before the part 1 and it’s many time reinforced that Sannin especially Orochimaru get stronger. so you now have a case of Sakumo being stronger than the sannin that are unquantifiable weaker than those in part 1 and Itachi being straight up above them at least individually
@adamtraan
Күн бұрын
Also i wanna ask what scan server are you using cuz I saw many same panels from Draco’s scan server “Library” that I am a huge part of
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
Appreciate it yeah my issue with Itachi over based on the intel is that he's vaguely a high diff opponent for each Sannin, compared to Sakumo above the group. Tsunade actually somewhat implies her prime is stronger than her current self off of the Kabuto Assessment with no real basis for the Sannin actually growing stronger or being able to note they change as we don't have a previous reference. That's just my interpretation, an added bonus is if this includes their summons who are HEAVILY implied to be ~ to the Sannin themselves which is another avenue I didn't get to mention. Just my 2 cents tho more so wanted to give Sakumo some love
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
I have my own personal scan server of stuff I collect I'm not really in many servers
@adamtraan
Күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG oh shit man idk if you’re somewhat open to letting other people into your servers but if possible could i maybe look into it, cuz i never saw some of the statements or translations featured in the video and I always love to go through some Naruto inverse scaling
@takatotakasui8307
2 күн бұрын
Yeah, this definitely seems like one of the most analytically rigorous powerscaling videos on KZitem
@aurthurpendragon1015
Күн бұрын
This is a great video, but if it were me I probably would have stopped using characters after they died.
@DXXD_
2 күн бұрын
W vid bro you just dont miss!
@tracyserfontein7026
2 күн бұрын
Amazing video!
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@yamamotogotbodied1606
2 күн бұрын
On god let’s like and comment it up on this video because I’m fiending for a part two something serious 🙏🏾💯
@UnknownK4ge
2 күн бұрын
So we gon ignore the video of naruto and ino🌚 Anyways Can’t wait for pt 2&3💯
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
🤫🤫
@extsyy
2 күн бұрын
Wait wat
@vegeta12379
2 күн бұрын
Sick Kimmimaro over Haku but otherwise good list
@gumbarius
12 сағат бұрын
I would've probably preferred if the top lists of each arcs only featured characters playing a role in said arc tbh Having Minato be there taking a spot every time even though he just appears in the prologue kinda sucks :D
@marwyn8152
21 сағат бұрын
Part 1 Itachi still slaps Sakumo silly. He said he can take on Naruto and Kurama, while Jiraiya was an afterthought. This Jiraiya, who by the way could solo these featless young jonin-level Sannin, was a non-factor for Itachi. Take this in.
@ThunderGodTG
20 сағат бұрын
We actually don’t have indication the Sannin were weaker, tsunade actually implies the opposite noting she had a prime (this being P1 Knowledge only). It’s like we have one dude above 3 Arbitrarily weaker Sannin as a Unit vs 1 Dude who’s arbitrarily above a single Sannin and it’s a high diff fight.
@darthnovo3526
23 сағат бұрын
LET'S GOOOOOOO ANKO TOP TIER (I play as her in SS)
@jaybronx98
2 күн бұрын
W vid part 2 🔥🔥
@whispr_2ME
Күн бұрын
I do think the sannin have a more prime Kakashi in mind when they compare him to Kabuto; making that rusty version at least vaguely inferior to Kabuto. Kabuto outplays him using dead bodies and maintains a playful demeanor throughout their encounter in chapter 89. The short exchange is is actually what makes Kakashi realize just how rusty he is (saying he might become "obsolete" soon) and he starts training again because of it. 42:50 The Kakashi here should be more in shape, but there's also extra context to consider. The invasion had just officially failed and it would actually be Kabuto and Baki (arguably around special jounin level) vs Kakashi, Guy, and a special jounin [Genma]. It wouldn't be a smart fight to take even if we assumed Kabuto was stronger.
@hiddenmarco
2 күн бұрын
Minato so glazed even in a arc where hes not even alive hes still number 1 make it make sense
@stephencollins9396
2 күн бұрын
In the first group, if we aren't counting demon Naruto, Sakura seems to outpace him. His taijutu is better than hers, but he isn't noted as good at it being the worst rookie in the academy. Not to mention, she not only reacted quicker to the demon brothers, but she reacted and acted in time to save Naruto's life from Zabuza's sword pre-chakra control training. Given her better general knowledge of jutsu, her chakra control, her tactical skill, and her more honed senses: it seems she would be able to hide and beat Naruto with a few basic traps.
@stephencollins9396
2 күн бұрын
Also land of waves Kakashi still beats Haku. Not as easily, but let's be honest: Kakashi always overhypes his enemies to keep Naruto/others/himself serious and not underestimate them. And Zabuza frankly didn't realize how below Kakashi he was. Both attacks and plans are walked into with Zabuza believing he can win. Still, even as Kakashi's attention is divided and he's been traveling/recovering from exhaustion, Zabuza didn't get a single win. So even assuming Zabuza wasn't just bluffing, he vastly overestimated Haku's tactical prowess.
@@jasonmoukala8909he most definitely did, haku didn’t demonstrate high jonin skills simply by holding back against two genin while using a unique bloodline limit that neither had the answer to. And that trait made him better able to intercept Kakashi, but if he was that high above him, he simply would have gotten him out of the way without having to tank the blow with his chest. In fact, the tailed beast form Naruto used to overwhelm him is well bellow what Kage level and its likely any jonin could handle such a blast without getting overwhelmed as Sasuke def wasn’t joining level when he defeated it in the valley of the end. Haku clearly should be beneath any of the leaf jonin.
@jasonmoukala8909
Күн бұрын
@@stephencollins9396 kakashi has no answer to crystal ice mirror
@MrKingYuji
Күн бұрын
I see what you’re saying but I still put Naruto above Sakura. Naruto has mountains more chakra than her, is actually useful in battle, and is capable of on the spot battle tactics. Sakura’s chakra control aids her very little
@jason15212
2 күн бұрын
Feening for part 2 already
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
This vid does well enough I’ll put a priority order on it fr
@jason15212
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG you know damn well it’s gonna do numbers 😭😂
@owensilva9224
2 күн бұрын
Do one for boruto
@Bob-fe8qn
21 сағат бұрын
loved it
@___________0Z0X
2 күн бұрын
But I already liked thed video.🥺
@punkfoxxie5410
2 күн бұрын
I think Gaara and Kimmimaro should have beat Asuma at least. They feel stronger than him at the time tbh. And Haku. Because I think this Gaara or Kimmimaro would've beat Haku/0 tails Naruto.
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Haku would prob outlast both of them they don’t have the same reserves / regen as naruto with both having pretty verifiable chakra limits. All Haku has to do is not use the ice mirror prison tbh
@clueXX.
2 күн бұрын
W vid man
@kingdragongamer2648
Күн бұрын
Good video
@jojodaberry9994
2 күн бұрын
I take is back, 14 ppl in a top 10 list is crazy
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
NGL Y'all getting a bang for your buck
@jojodaberry9994
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG facts
@AG-it4im
2 күн бұрын
How tf did he know I was doing dishes 😱😱😱
@jason15212
2 күн бұрын
Genma being low jonin level but equal to Baki the strongest Jonin the Sand shows how cracked Konoha is.
@___________0Z0X
2 күн бұрын
Guys! Make this video pop off!
@katsuieshibata7493
10 сағат бұрын
Minato grinding is crazy. Hiruzen is literally stated as the greatest in part1 before all the retcons. You're constantly misusing information to fit your agenda. As example, if Hiruzen wanted to prevent another hokage from rising, it's simply to not face 3 hokages at the same time yet you badly misinterpret it. Same with Anko, having another hokage aside from Hiruzen would help.
@ThunderGodTG
10 сағат бұрын
It’s noted to be a Hiruzen that’s not old, Hiruzen somewhat chides Iruka for his use of past tense, along with Oro’s statement of him being 10 years younger. The Hokage point is literally the most blatant since Hiruzen could have stopped any 1 of the coffins yet gave the most focus to Minato’s. It’s a very clear power indicator as regardless he would have had to fight 2 Hokage.
@Jesscresent76
6 сағат бұрын
I just want to add guy beat Kakashi 1 more time than the reverse, but I do think after Kakashis training he would be above guy and if they fought a few more times it would be reversed and Kakashi would win more often
@NonAryanDuck
2 күн бұрын
I know you got New Horizons in your closet, TG! Give him back! 😤
@markomilutinovic8300
2 күн бұрын
What is the name of that game at the start of the video where you show minato, hiruzen etc...
@Necromancer4267
3 күн бұрын
I swear to god Kimimaro is the strongest Ninja in the entire series at the time of his debut, outside of Itachi hax. Dude could kill any other person seen up to that point with no sweat, and even everyone for a decent amount of time after as well.
@cringewyrm
3 күн бұрын
Why is Kimimaro above Orochimaru? IDK the kimimaru scaling that well so im interested in the explanation
@Necromancer4267
3 күн бұрын
@@cringewyrm Orochimaru just doesn't *do* anything in Part 1, really. He swings a sword, he does some summons, but nothing he shows could even scratch Kimimaro, and Part 1 doesn't show us anything to suggest that Orochimaru would survive getting stabbed by 1000 tree-sized bones. He's just not a real fighter with feats in Part 1.
@1of1MaccSauce
3 күн бұрын
What about pain ?
@Necromancer4267
3 күн бұрын
@@1of1MaccSauce Pain didn't exist outside of a hologram with no name, no feats, and no screen time.
@1of1MaccSauce
3 күн бұрын
@@Necromancer4267 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 yea u know he’ll fold his dumb ahh
@asap6763
2 күн бұрын
Imo I think the Sasuke chakra flex on Kabuto feat was very concrete. Not to say based fatigue Sasuke would beat Kabuto or Kakashi, but it's like "Oh shit. This mf would fuck me up if he went all out." And that's why he was scared. He was seeing into the inner-depths of Sasuke's chakra and realized how strong he was. Also I think there's a databook statement or smth of the final valley fight Naruto amps being his strongest amps. Which means the amps were stronger than in the fight with Haku. This would honestly give c1 3 tomoe Sasuke some relevance to Kakashi (But I doubt he could win in an actual fight) And I think this puts c2 Sasuke above Kakashi if you want to be somewhat charitable to Sasuke's scaling. It would make his post time skip strength make more sense if he started out stronger than Kakashi that early on. That's just my opinion though. It just makes a bit more sense to me. This is taking into account that Kakashi got stronger after the fight with Haku, but I don't believe he got stronger by so much that the feat is completely irrelevant to his retrivel arc scaling.
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
I think you can def say Naruto & Sasuke FP are Jonin level by the end of P1 it’s just way too vague. The statement you’re referring to is discussing Naruto without the One Tail Cloak. I think the problem is that Naruto only has that feat vs a more fatigued variant of Haku this being directly which makes it not a 1:1, Haku himself is kinda a glass canon with really good speed but, really bad AP (Naruto yelled away his Senbon lmao) or could just regen the damage. It’s just really difficult to accurately place those versions of the characters on the Top Ten since they’re just no grazing that Leaf Jonin tier compared to everyone else and or the mountains of evidence.
@asap6763
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG I get your point. Haku just kinda eats a punch from that Naruto and then eats another punch from base naruto and then speed blitzes Kakashi. Yeah I get your logic. The list is still valid.
@jason15212
2 күн бұрын
The reason I think haku is stronger than kakashi is because I think zabuza made a lot of assumptions about what he thinks Haku would be able to do against Kakashi based off of watching him fight Zabuza the first time. Kakashi effortlessly beat Zabuza in the first and the only reason it ever seems like it’s a hard battle is because Kakashi was trapped in the water prison. I don’t think Haku would be able to beat Kakashi in a 1 vs 1 scenario tho I do think it’d be close. Not refuting what’s in the source material but that’s my opinion on it.
@spit-fire
2 күн бұрын
Kimmimaru GOAT
@jonart8433
2 күн бұрын
Kyuubi Naruto in the land of waves is only weaker to 1 tail naruto at the valley of the end. In terms of Naruto himself. You can argue even stronger due to the bloodlust
@alexrobinet7576
2 күн бұрын
Sakumo vs itachi plz
@benwelsh5265
3 күн бұрын
This series gonna be heat.
@kylemma33
2 күн бұрын
The guy downplay Is crazy. Guy has a winning record against kakashi despite not using the gates when they spar against one another. So base guy has a record of 51 wins & 49 losses versus kakashi.
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
It’s not directly indicative of strength a lot of their challenges are friendly competition
@jasonmoukala8909
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTGbut we all know Gai way stronger than kakashi
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
I ain’t got a problem with Guy > Kakashi it’s just impossible to place Gated Guy on this list so it’s much better to use the statements about his FP as a reference.
@cKarmaRL
Күн бұрын
All of you KZitemrs say the same thing. I dont know if the anime switched it around from the manga but in the anime Pain clearly states “I still require 30% of your chakra for the sealing of the 1 tails. Not 70, 30. Which means Guy fought a 70% clone, not a 30%. I don’t see how you, sage, Seth, six, swag, miss this in every single video you reference it in. Like I said maybe the anime reversed the manga statement. But in the anime Itachi and Kisame are 70% clones.
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
My brother in christ, did you peep the intro? Do you know the rules for the vid? Nah you skipped it why don’t you go ahead and watch that then come back to me talking about Shippuden feats smh I ain’t even bring that shit up in this vid too so this is a double L
@cKarmaRL
Күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG Wheww. You’re actually wrong in every way, that’s crazy. I did watch your intro, you did include that feat, and it’s still wrong. Do you need a timestamp on your own video? Lol. You and every KZitemr who ever mentioned guy or Kisame always say it’s a 30% clone and not a 70. Every video, not just this one.
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
My brother ch.255 Pain saying this is in reference to the technique (art of impersonation) NOT the Gedo Mazo the subject of the sentence is the art of the impersonation idk how you think otherwise. Kisame reaffirms this in Chapter 260 “we gave the dopplegangers 30% of our chakra”. You legit just are interpreting pains statement weirdly when it’s mentioned twice and clearly 30. What’s CRAZY is being as wrong as you are and coming in with your energy, chill out G
@illamatic1378
2 күн бұрын
Great wor TG
@Redoren966
Күн бұрын
Where would Kakashi as a anbu be in part 1? I think sage of thick calves believes he is above Sanin or the same tier
@Redoren966
Күн бұрын
Also I feel Kakashi as an Anbu shouldn’t have his sharingan mastered as much as Itachi or a lot of Uchiha due to this
@Bikegod1
Күн бұрын
Never in a million years is Haku stronger than Kakashi or Zabuza, I'm sorry. Zabuza gassing up his protégé does not make him on par with those two.
@BundI3s
2 күн бұрын
what actually happened to newhorizons
@acualancer4619
2 күн бұрын
But the sannin from the second war are way weaker than the current versions of then. Jiraiya didn't knew sage mode, Tsunade hadn't developed her strength of a hundred seal, and Orochimaru didn't have edo tensei nor the white snake powers, so yeah, at that point of the story we don't know that, but giving Sakumo the level of the current sannin together is s bit of a stretch. Actually, Id say that the statement refers to each of the sannin separately, not as a group, because all of them are refered as a sannin.
@Rhaasen
Күн бұрын
Icl i think kishi wanted to hype up Jiraiya in p1 w those statements,because lets be real once we saw what itachi can do in shippuden he bullies Jiraiya easily lol
@aimenemahamdi4360
2 күн бұрын
The Gaara that fought Kimimaro is stronger than all jonins ( since guy didn't show any of the gates ) he was already a kazekage level, i can't see how kakashi or kabuto can survive the sand tsunami. So based on the feats shown the final order should be like this: 1- Minato 2- Itachi 3- Orochimaru 4- Jiraiya 5- Hiruzen / Tsunade 6- edo hashirama 7- edo Tobirama 8- sick Kimimaru 9- Gaara 10- Kakashi / Kabuto
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Gaara has no one else to compare to aside from Tokubetsu Jonin & he was def not Kazekage level by the end of P1. None of the Sound 4 or Tokubetsu Jonin are messing with Kisame, Kakashi, and or Kabuto.
@aimenemahamdi4360
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG First of all Kisame is a beast but in part 1 he didn't show any feat to put him on the list. Gaara showed the same feats that he showed later as a kazekage, he even became a kazekage directly after part 1. Also what feats does kakashi or kabuto showed that can counter the sand tsunami ? The only thing kakashi can use to counter it is his water jutsu but its still too small compared to the sand tsunami that Gaara used. And that's not even his strongest technique, he can literraly manipulate the ground, Kakashi or Kabuto has nothing at their arsenal to deal with that.
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
They would legit just be too fast for Gaara to tag and hit him before he gets the Jutsu off like Lee in the exams. Gaara can use the same technique but, it’s outright stated he got stronger, just cause Sasuke in the Chunin Exams & Rinnegan Sasuke both use Chidori doesn’t mean the feats transfer over.
@JohnnyX225
2 күн бұрын
I can’t lie usually I finish before commenting but you can’t do Guy like that…when I watched for the first time his introduction was to show u how a blitz is implemented , to show there’s many more strong characters, & he’s also str8 up saying he’s stronger than kakashi & as me watching it’s believable because I just seen Sasuke w a sharingan get whooped by Lee… & Kakashi is basically Sasuke in the grand scheme of that introduction to Taijutsu & Just look at him there’s no way kakashi is beating someone whose stronger than s1 believed to be Bruce Lee! Guy is like a Super Bruce Lee He initially was overpowered & they had to nerf Guy for the sake of watching him fight later on!! Even when u see Lee who is doing Kage level things (even kakashi pulled his Sharingan out) there’s no reason to say kabuto & Haku are beating him with the information presented in the time frame u have listed even tho his feats are yet to be seen because we placed minato at #1 & Anko has NEVER seen him fight & we’ve never even seen him fight either so we going off the baseless assumption of Anko & she also didn’t kno of oro’s new abilities atp to even say that….. Basically what I’m saying in a nutshell because I understand how you structured the video & how contentious this is which is why u out the pre claimer there but “ Sasuke is used as a plot tool to illustrate the audience & our disbelief that someone random could be stronger than kakashi, hence he demonstrates by showing his superior speed relative to that of kakashi” is basically what I’m saying ig the rest of what I said doesn’t matter because I could’ve just said that but I had to give extra info on why I said wgat I said :)
@Borchert97
Күн бұрын
Glad you did Itachi justice, sick of having to debate dummies who really think Jiraiya could beat Itachi in a fight lol, Itachi's statement in hindsight and with full context that he said to Kisame was also just a blatant lie, in hindsight he is a spy for the Leaf and wants to downplay himself and prop Jiraiya up so that Kisame doesn't find anything suspicious when Itachi gives him the command to flee, and he was STILL suspicious because he knew Itachi was capable of far more than that. Putting Sakumo against Itachi is criminal though.
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
Sakumo has better implications than Itachi on his placement is all Itachi’s still just vaguely above 1 Sannin compared to Sakumo > all 3
@Borchert97
Күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG zero feats + Sakumo hard-loses to Tsukuyomi
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
Statements = Feats imo unless directly contradicted. We have no idea on his arsenal as a whole but if you have Itachi > it’s not crazy
@XxVerticalBl3ndxX
2 күн бұрын
Should have kept it to characters that were alive at that point of the story.
@JohnnyX225
2 күн бұрын
Aye bruh u gone have to chill!!!! 21:16 Shino broke/negged the Genjutsu too not just Sakura & Shika 😒
@doubleh3978
Күн бұрын
The disrespect on Guy is insane. I get what you are doing, you are going by statements about the specific periods, but the only statements we had about Guy since the beginning were one from Guy himself saying he is stronger than Kakashi, one from Sasuke saying he is faster than Kakashi and later we discover Guy is over Kakashi in their contests (that we will learn later being all kinds of contests and it doesn't necessairly means strenght but it is still a point for Guy) and he will later look better against Itachi and Kisame. I'm not saying i think Guy is definetly stronger than Kakashi at this point, they should probably share a spot, but if you want to put one over the other only going by statements and feats is clear Guy should be higher. You put Kabuto on the same spot as Kakashi only for that couple time someone says he is at most as strong as Kakashi while Guy is under them when he is implied to be over Kakashi. This is wild.
@spicyboi544
2 күн бұрын
Really thought Genma was gonna get in the top 10 cause he fought baki for an hour, sad lel
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Ngl most of that fight is off screen and when we cut back other Jonin are in the mix. They legit have one on screen clash and then we have no conclusions.
@spicyboi544
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG fairs, shows special jonin can be jonin level though - gives credence to anko being possible > kuranei
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Agreed although Leaf Jonin are generally > than other villages I think the Tokubetsu are cracked enough it can be argued
@jimmyk.s3579
16 сағат бұрын
What I don't understand about Minato and the sanin is that being hokage means you're the strongest even though jiraiya turned it down and nominated Minato! ...not to mention orochimaru was picked 1st! Sakumo's not 1st, Is it just because of the name "hokage?
@ThunderGodTG
4 сағат бұрын
The Hokage has other factors besides strength but you need to be at a certain baseline to be considered acceptable. Sannin level seems to be just that.
@MadeForD
21 сағат бұрын
33:38 gyaaaaa tsunade
@StayingAnti
2 күн бұрын
Asuma over Naruto 😓
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
MY GOAT
@caylinjohnson6453
2 күн бұрын
Aye if you’re going to copy a idea make it a good one am I right
@commander1suv492
15 сағат бұрын
Land of Waves: Iruka > Sakura??
@rafaelsanna96
Күн бұрын
Yes Itachi is stronger than Jiraya, thank god some one notice it, Itachi Just lied to Kisame about Jiraya being stronger then both bcse he was a double agent, but Itachi stomps Jiraya in part one.
@hobbyhorse5848
3 күн бұрын
Last time I was this early Naruto just learned the rasengan
@AMJH248
Күн бұрын
Spends 5 minutes explaining why haku is stronger than kakashi just to then put kakashi ahead of him looll 💀😂
@Elimbi1
2 күн бұрын
What about hashirama tho
@Jahq00
2 күн бұрын
Wait. Shadow clones are supposed to shorten your life????? Was that retconned or what?
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Nah it’s mainly the multi - shadow clone jutsu due to dudes splitting their chakra up crazy. Literally most dudes never use that many clones in the show for this reason.
@Jahq00
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG So does that apply for evertime across the show when Naruto does multi shadow clone jitsu for 100's of clones. Or does that not apply because of Kurama?
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Nah Naruto’s the exception due to his reserves. It makes it so he’s one of the few who can utilize this technique in this fashion without just killing himself.
@SirGregarious
2 күн бұрын
Been waiting for this one since you mentioned it on stream. Part 1 scaling is my favorite part of the series, so this was a fun video for me. I always love when you have to deal with the Jiraiya over Itachi thing. This will be a shorter wall of text because most of what you said is accurate aside from a few points. Land of Waves: Spot on. Only thing you could argue is that Naruto with KN0 is comparable to Kakashi and Zabuza rather than below Sasuke. Haku is insanely cracked and the respect is real. Chunin Exams: A little too high on the placing of Kakashi/Kabuto. Kakashi didn't lock in and get his real resolve back until after the Kabuto incident, he's still a sword that lost its edge at that point. Haku runs circles around them, which you talk about in the video, and it's odd that you decided to lower Haku simply because he isn't in the story anymore. Guy is extremely clear when he tells Team 7 that he's stronger than Kakashi, and Sasuke taking notice of it is most likely accurate because Sasuke's deduction in the moment is generally accurate as long as his ego isn't involved. You can supplement this with more with a few other things from exclusively this arc, mainly how Kakashi has to use his Sharingan to watch Lee vs Gaara, but Guy can obviously perceive everything happening and should be outright superior to that by implication of him also knowing the gates. Guy does have his Blue Beast title at this point, we don't know that it means Seventh Gate and Hirudora until much later though. Having Baki on this list is weird because the manga is pretty explicit that Baki does not think he can actually control Gaara. Konoha Crush: I don't see why we can include Minato on the list but not Rasa, but I also hate giving anything to Rasa so good on you for leaving him off the list. I've said this several times, but considering Orochimaru in the same tier as Hiruzen is bizarre given what we see of their fight. Hiruzen defeats Edo Hashirama, Edo Tobirama and stalemates Orochimaru simultaneously while being mentally nerfed for the majority of the fight. The cut off of 138 is important for this section though, as we don't know that Hiruzen offered Jiraiya the position of Hokage until the next arc, which is what places him comfortably above Hiruzen and Orochimaru. I still don't think you can argue Jiraiya isn't above Orochimaru at even this point because he went through with the Konoha Crush at all because he didn't expect Jiraiya to be there. The thing that I dislike the most about this section is that the earlier decision to decay Haku means that there was no discussion of Haku compared to Edo Hashirama and Edo Tobirama. This uses information from future arcs, but I think it's worth mentioning here just for the sake of making this comparison not sound ludicrous. Haku is narratively implied to be comparable to Kimimaro, so they bounce off each other well. Orochimaru was intending to bring Kimimaro to fight Hiruzen and he did bring him to fight Rasa. Orochimaru saw Kimimaro and decided he didn't need the Sharingan anymore until Kimimaro's illness showed up. I don't see Haku actually beating Edo Hashirama or Edo Tobirama because they are Edo Tensei, but it would have been interesting to hear the scaling from that angle. I also appreciate the Kurenai and Anko respect here as well, not a lot of people give Kurenai any. Search for Tsunade: Obviously, Jiraiya is above Itachi by showing and statement. The more realistic match up is Tsunade or Hiruzen vs Itachi, but no one talks about those. We don't know how much Itachi knows about Guy's strength at this point, but Itachi's plan went from "kill Asuma and Kurenai, kidnap and interrogate Kakashi" to "Don't underestimate Guy, we need to leave now." as soon as Guy showed up, so I think it's pretty reasonable to say Guy is still greater than Kakashi at this point. Kisame doesn't really have much statement or showing to go off of at this point other than he's a rogue ninja, a Seven Swordsman of the Mist, and that he could fight Asuma and Kakashi. Putting Kisame above Haku looks a little weird if we consider that Kisame hasn't shown any of his real powers at this point. Sasuke Retrieval: There's only two real characters to discuss here, Kimimaro and Gaara. I already touched a bit on Kimimaro, but this guy is an absolute monster. Kimimaro is pretty cleanly above Gaara, but I think this is where Gaara has bridged the gap into potential Kage level and I would say Gaara is stronger than Kakashi at this point. Gaara beat Itachi and Minato's Chuunin Exam records. Gaara is contending with someone who was going to fight Hiruzen. Drunk Lee needed Guy and Neji to restrain him, but Kimimaro is dealing with him effortlessly before Gaara steps in to push Kimimaro to his limit. But also, Sand Tsunami is absolutely ridiculous and not many people have an answer to it. I think a bonus round section at the end of the video with the Genin kids could have been cool. It's pretty much impossible to argue Gaara isn't the strongest, but it would have been cool to hear your thoughts on how the others stack up against each other. Small shoutout to Choji, Shino and Temari for being underrated there.
@austinkottke8503
2 күн бұрын
This is the worst power scaling ive ever seen
@JohnnyX225
2 күн бұрын
I’m kinda wondering if your scared to say certain characters are stronger than others because Guy that low under kabuto is wild Also zsunade losing to s1 under her but staying above edo tobirama & hashirama is wild even tho she does eventually win against Kabuto Haku almost got merked by kimimaru while walking with zabuza when they were kids & I dare say Kimimaru grew more in strength by the time they were teens & he presents better feats also no mention of 5th gate Lee is fine but damn bruh & lastly Sasuke scared kabuto that must mean something more than what you implied💯rip Naruto & Shino
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
This comment literally is not readable I’ll address your concerns just re format it for me brother
@JohnnyX225
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG My fault I was doing 130 on the highway while driving to the strip club hope that’s better
@ThunderGodTG
Күн бұрын
LMAO you chillin it’s more so that we have no metric how much stronger 5th Gate Guy is and if that even puts him > which is contrary to the statements Sasuke scaring Kabuto is a good feat but, we just can’t extend it to a full placement due to lack of evidence.
@JohnnyX225
Күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG You say the right things but ultimately we know Guy is stronger based off itachi retreating alone cuz that’s war arc feat level!!!!! Haku can’t be ranked that high when we both know kimimaru whoops em & we also know Sasuke grew to a 3 tailed degree I can’t see Kabuto scaling to those levels nor Kakashi without proper wanking with feats not yet seen to that point in the story 💯
@yoshi9706
2 күн бұрын
did you just say kimimaro is stronger then edo hashirama
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
It can be argued a Prime Version is above that weakened variant which is somewhat of a Base Sannin Tier
@Necromancer4267
2 күн бұрын
With only Part 1 knowledge, he absolutely is.
@SalmanulFarisi101
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTGare you saying Kimimaro is base sannin tier 😵
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
Prime Kimmimaro is 100% Sannin Tier yes idk where you think he’s not an Edo Variant only using partial CM1 was never sealed by Mifune who a prime Hanzo noted he couldn’t take any chances against & a KCM1 Naruto clone
@SalmanulFarisi101
2 күн бұрын
@@ThunderGodTG wtf? So, Orochimaru's wanted body is actually strong or as strong as Orochimaru!? 🤦♂️ Wow. Kimimaro's edo never had any major screentime lol. Also, he has backup from Chiyo and others. Next thing you are gonna say is Chiyo is Sannin tier lol. And many other edo were not sealed. Does that make all of them Sannin tier? Funny how Sannin tier is your go to tier when Kimimaro is only Jonin tier at best. Sannin are High Kage tier Shinobi dude. Being able to challenge an MS user alone proves that
@ExoticZah
3 күн бұрын
TG is my favorite Naruto KZitem. Very honest and logical takes.
@safeandsound712
3 күн бұрын
Yes! Bro keep it up TG! I'm so happy when you upload long 40+ minute videos!
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
My man ✊🏻🔥
@AidenB1010
2 күн бұрын
"the sannin are a high diff fight for itachi" did you watch naruto? like at all? itachi at 14 neg diffed orochimaru and did the same thing while blind sick dying having a heart attack and fatigued in part 2, why the hell would a healthier akatsuki itachi thats years older and stronger than the one that negged orochimaru struggle with the sannin😭😭
@ThunderGodTG
2 күн бұрын
My brother please watch the intro and understand the premise of the video LMAO it’s only factoring in info we have at the time, bro listed everything from Shippuden with his chest out smh
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