There's one notable correction in this video (which is just a case of me misspeaking). At one point I say the PLAN is bigger than the USN in both hull count and tonnage. It isn't, it's smaller by tonnage (significantly) and is only larger by hull count. My brain wanted to say it was larger by hull count and was building more tonange but I flubbed the sentence and missed it in editing. The perils of doing these things without a script... Apologies for any confusion.
@Rampart.X
2 жыл бұрын
It ruined the whole video. Take it away 😒
@JonZiegler6
2 жыл бұрын
For the first time since you started making these vids, I'm actually MORE interested in the hot take than the long view...I even commented on your post how your long takes are much better...what a difference 48 hours makes, and what a pleasant change of events it's been!
@seanmcgrady8688
2 жыл бұрын
The US still has a larger navy if you include its coast guard. It does not, yet China does.
@velvetmagnetta3074
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking, "Wow Perun sure writes some really thorough and entertaining scripts for his presentations." Perun: This is what happens when I don't write a script. 😳
@J_K944
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that you are doing these off the cuff is, frankly, mindblowing.
@evilmountain7147
2 жыл бұрын
I find it equally ironic, hilarious, and impressive that you have essentially shifted a *KZitem channel* from civilian production (video games) to wartime industry....
@themastermason1
2 жыл бұрын
I had to check Perun's channel page to confirm. The question now becomes whether or not Perun will be able to transition back to peacetime.
@justiron2999
2 жыл бұрын
@@themastermason1 War sells and so does war statics and reviews so probably not.
@accountname9506
2 жыл бұрын
@@themastermason1 he has a seperate gaming channel now
@MattBellzminion
Жыл бұрын
@@themastermason1 For his old gamer fans, that would be a peace dividend.
@harrisonlichtenberg3162
5 ай бұрын
Just like how nations pivot into war economies during mass conflicts
@TACTICALPEPE
2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes , my weekly dose of 1 hour slide presentations on youtube
@Cristieagle
2 жыл бұрын
Unironically it's like a fucking drug, I love it.
@T-BVObr
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this is the type of content KZitem lacks.
@TACTICALPEPE
2 жыл бұрын
@@Cristieagle my partner thinks i am crazy that I’ve sat through every video from start to end. To be fair i find them pretty entertaining and informative.
@Mercurite
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly look forward to it more than almost anything else on KZitem these days. It's one of but a tiny handful of videos I literally put in my schedule.
@dasitmaneayylmao2729
2 жыл бұрын
The rush is real 😮💨
@janeharrison835
2 жыл бұрын
No need to apologies for delaying the Ukraine update - no-one expected the excellent developments of the last few days! Hopefully the Ukrainians can consolidate and strengthen their gains, and maybe repeat the process in Kherson :)
@lordAvatar
2 жыл бұрын
I think Russia actually put some of its best troops in Kherson unfortunately. Supplied them as best they could for quite a while over the river. The fun part is that those troops can't easily pull out, especially with their equipment.
@Edax_Royeaux
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordAvatar Well those Russian troops have nothing to worry about since Russia claims the frontlines haven't moved at all during this Kherson counter-offensive. /s
@janeharrison835
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordAvatar Yes, they probably have. Still, I wouldn't want to be in their boots right now, though - a determined Ukrainian army in front of me, a largely hostle population and a wide river behind me, supply lines getting hammered, bridges destroyed, air force AWOL, senior officials withdrawing to safety in russia, and it looking ever-increasingly like the only real options are surrender, retreat with only what can be carried and no guarantee of crossing the river, or pushing up the sunflowers...
@MarcosElMalo2
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordAvatar There is no “unfortunately” about it. The Kherson offensive is a major component of Ukraine’s counter offensive strategy. A huge amount of planning went into this. A lot of effort has gone into determining Russia’s force dispositions and movements. A lot of options were planned, probabilities calculated, and gambles taken. Sadly for us observers, we can only speculate on the planning, including the contingency planning. What we do know is that Ukraine pre-announced a counter-offensive in one place, and because it was a real counter-offensive with very real preparations they were able to lure Russia into moving forces into Kherson from other fronts. And we do know that Russia spread itself thin around the Kharkiv front by rushing reserve units to Kherson. We can speculate with VERY high confidence that the Kharkiv assault was a well planned option, not just because of its speed, but because of the strategic points taken and the order in which they were taken. The process won’t be repeated in Kherson because some different tactics will be required. The troop transfer that weakened Russia’s Kharkiv line has strengthened Russia’s defense of Kherson. The siege of Kherson might take months even after weeks of slow encirclement. A lot of things went right at Kherson that created the conditions for the fast advance into Eastern Kharkiv.
@ComradeArthur
2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping UA is so energetic that it will be months before you can do an update.
@233DDR
2 жыл бұрын
Perun is so polite and apologizes so often for non-issues that he’s going to be given honorary Canadian citizenship.
@valdomero738
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine wanting to be a Cucknadian..
@scarletpimpernel230
2 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha, that's true. Partly that's because he's so secure in his great amount of knowledge, and partly because he knows being polite makes one a better thinker, since not projecting onto others.
@Konotaru
2 жыл бұрын
Or Japanese.
@WellBattle6
2 жыл бұрын
Too bad as a KZitemr the only way he could become a Canadian citizen for real is to marry or somehow find $1.2 million CAD to invest. Social media is not on the list of jobs the quota points system is looking for.
@Whatisthisstupidfinghandle
2 жыл бұрын
@@WellBattle6 Could marry a Ukrainian.
@Wildcat144
2 жыл бұрын
You have quickly become one of my favorite youtubers. I started watching when you made the first Ukrainian video and have stayed with you through it all. Incredibly great content! I absolutely love it all!
@doctorgeneric8070
2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I've seen you around! All the entertainment of Canopus and yet hour long powerpoints can still have that magic.
@Wildcat144
2 жыл бұрын
@@doctorgeneric8070 One must have equal parts in entertainment, economics, and war!
@lookingforsomething
2 жыл бұрын
I started following Perun for his Dominions content. Him moving to such classy takes on the Ukraine war and defence industry was bit a blessing and a curse.
@REDNBLUEBROS1337
2 жыл бұрын
All bling no basics?
@GG-yr5ix
2 жыл бұрын
There are strategic terms that come into play here also. US Navy is a Blue Water navy, and it's ship building concentration is on Large Combatant and Logistics shipping (Destroyers and Larger class ships, plus Nuclear power). Most Navies are Green Water (Sticking closer to shore). Smaller navies do not need Nuclear Powered subs, Carriers, etc. Germany and Italy really are good at making Corvette and Frigate type shipping, and conventional powered subs.
@swunt10
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Fuel cells AIP subs are considered 'conventional powered'
@fluoroantimonictippedcruis1537
2 жыл бұрын
@@swunt10 In principle, AIP subs are still far smaller than nuclear subs which is the point the original commenter made. AIP is still green water navy stuff.
@GG-yr5ix
2 жыл бұрын
@@swunt10 AIP are considered 'Conventional' because they are not Nuclear, and in the case of the Stirling types they still rely on combustion of a type. AIP is a very quiet system, but still has some limits on range, power delivery (speed) and endurance. Nuclear subs are limited by Crew and Food capacity. Not saying they aren't "exotic" technology, but that again it's a short range (green water) type solution. Also Sub Reactors are generally cutting edge tech and those that have them want to keep their tech secret.
@hansulrichboning8551
2 жыл бұрын
Do not forget sweden,very capable subs.
@blogsfred3187
2 жыл бұрын
In some detailed work on procurement choices that I won’t do into, we found the core issue with US was more to do with the deep specialisation of each ship class, small countries need more multi mission designed ships, ie ASW, Anti surface, anti air, especially area denial, but us ships tend to do one role really well, as designed to be part of carrier group. EU etc were more multipurpose generalist ships.
@behaviorshelf5037
2 жыл бұрын
The feeling one gets here when our host says "that will be in another video" is quite remarkable. Thank you for yet another great learning opportunity.
@JulianSildenLanglo
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the export graph would look like if the EU countries were considered a single unit. I.e. Not counting a sale from France to Spain as export.
@PerunAU
2 жыл бұрын
I could do that with a little work. If I get a spare half an hour I'll do so and see what it throws up and include it in the Euro Defence video if it's interesting.
@madamesaundere
2 жыл бұрын
Dont know about military side, but as a block the EU is the biggest economic entity in history without question.
@JulianSildenLanglo
2 жыл бұрын
@@PerunAU that would be lovely!
@silverhost9782
2 жыл бұрын
@@madamesaundere How do you figure that? USA has a higher GDP and China is larger in terms of population and GDP too
@gcharny8022
2 жыл бұрын
@@silverhost9782 I’d say quality and quantity - US shipyards are outnumbered heavily in capability vs EU shipyards
@cronochaos38
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a South Korean but the future of our ship building industry doesn't seem that promising. After about decade long recession because you can't get as cost competitive as China they let go a lot of welders and they felt betrayed and found work somewhere else. Now orders are coming back in that gives the industry hope but no one is willing to return to the dockyards because past feelings and the pay is meager compared to the intensity and danger involved. And can't say a lot of people are willing to start working there when entrance level pay will be similar working at convenience store but with bigger chances of injury and death. The manpower shortage had the government recently loosen restriction for foreign works for the shipbuilding industry that isn't a fundamental solution .
@The_ZeroLine
2 жыл бұрын
A story as old as time with first world countries. We give big salaries to people who, far from creating value, literally suck wealth away from everyone else. A welder should get paid more than a trader.
@velvetmagnetta3074
2 жыл бұрын
@Chronochaos - What is the state of Union culture in Korea? Like, do you have many industry unions? Are they big enough to influence the government? We have some in the US that can command certain things like where the industry must hire from first, etc.
@ALV694
2 жыл бұрын
@@velvetmagnetta3074 unions are banned in South Korea, last time there was a strike in South Korea (carmaker industry), most of them were branded as enemies of the state, and those that survived the strike could not find work due to being blacklisted among the corps despite winning the legal case. The series "squid 🐙 games" kinda talked about it in a fictional way. Also corps dominate the government, as it was decided to let chaebols dominate the economy to build up the export base. There is a reason y south Korea is sarcastically known as Samsung's republic
@Boo_351
2 жыл бұрын
@@ALV694 Unions aren't banned, but rather weak since there isn't support from the government. And in case of strikes there were multiple this year and last year, the most recent one on June.
@cronochaos38
2 жыл бұрын
@@velvetmagnetta3074 We do or I think we do. I'm not that sharp on the subject there there are unions that have big influence but I don't think the changes effect workers under subcontractors. And while they have influence I'm not sure on public support or efficiency. Recently there was a strike at the Daewoo shipyards(DSME) with mixed reactions. Support for trying to fix the poor conditions and backlash for terrible timing. DSME was zombie firm being kept alive on tax money and was hoping to get back to normal because contracts were coming back but the strike left them with a $590mil loss and the strike seemed to stop when public opinion started to sour and the Korea Development Bank started to threaten that they would just let the company go bankrupt if the losses got higher. At the end the strike just seemed to have made the situation worse and I doubt it'll bring positive change to the industry
@andreas7250
2 жыл бұрын
42:00 "is that flagrantly illegal? Yes, but I stant by the concept." lmao
@matthewslentz5481
2 жыл бұрын
Perun: "I feel like it was a missed opportunity to not put a 76 millimeter gun on the cruise ship and let customers buy it. It's obviously very illegal and not possible..." Me: "Why isn't it possible?" Perun: "It's just not possible. " Me: "Why not, you stupid bastard?"
@madensmith7014
2 жыл бұрын
It is possible, just illegal
@swaghauler8334
2 жыл бұрын
You can, in fact, buy a 76mm cannon in the US. Just complete a BAFT Form 1 (the NFA form), pay your $200 Tax, and do the background check. Several months later, that 76mm Cannon is yours. The big issue is that each round of NON-EXPLODING ammo is also a Form 1 and a $200 Tax Stamp. Don't even THINK about explosive ammo in the US.
@randomcommenteronyoutube1055
2 жыл бұрын
I'd watch this dude's PPT about the thermodynamics of paint-drying. Just give us something to look forward to every week, lol.
@rerd6614
2 жыл бұрын
As Willy II pointed out a century ago: "Germany's future is at sea." 🙃 I am actually surprised, because there were some contractions in german yards in the last decade and the cancellation of some deals like the large series of patrol boats for Saudi-Arabia. Great Video! Thanks!
@grantgibson6861
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the two Mistral-class Amphibious Carriers the French cancelled after the Crimean invasion. Imagine the "Special Military Operation" if Russia had two amphibious carriers in the Black Sea.
@jorenvanderark3567
2 жыл бұрын
So the French denied the Ukrainians some Prime target practice?
@francoiscamy5066
2 жыл бұрын
If we knew that russian navy lacked protection against missiles, we could have sold them. Two pratice targets for Ukraine ; less money for Russia. Fair deal.
@alexandrelarsac9115
2 жыл бұрын
Yes we choosed not to sell them to an autocratic regime like Russia. They were sold instead to the much more democratic Egyp... eer.. never mind.
@jorenvanderark3567
2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrelarsac9115 Did anyone claim that Russia being Autocratic was the problem?
@tempo5366
2 жыл бұрын
31:53 I know you made a joke here, but I’d still like to address how accurate and fair your analysis of the Bundeswehr was. While the people serving there are doing an amazing job, it’s important to point out all the shortcomings and structural problems that are still hindering them in their job. Something no German in their right mind would find offensive.
@clemenswalter1984
2 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is a strength of many European. We don't have a problem with criticism of part of our governments(or armies). Even if the criticism comes from the outside, or if it hits part of our country that we are proud of. In my experience many other countries don't like criticism about their country. And people from these countries also take the criticism somewhat personal. also I have to assume that Perun knows this and plays with it every time the Bundeswehr comes up.
@quanganhvu6791
2 жыл бұрын
Good call on postponing the 6-7 months update because holy shit the last few days lol
@PerunAU
2 жыл бұрын
Look - a few things happened. Cross referencing anything has become hard and a lot of usual sources are going to be harder to get onto at the moment for obvious reasons.
@jonwinfield9193
2 жыл бұрын
I will say outside of some of my more depressed days where I just do nothing, I have been following your content since you started with these style of videos. They are amazingly informative and well thought out. Thank you for making these.
@DudokX
2 жыл бұрын
Good call on delaying the UA update video because of the recent incredible developments. It will be really interesting to see what has actually happened after the dust settles.
@tuehojbjerg969
2 жыл бұрын
yup delayed since Ukraine just liberated over 4000 squarekilometers :) izyum just got liberated and there is talk about them advancing into luhansk, problem is hes myabe have to delay it further if the Kherson pocket also collapses
@nvelsen1975
2 жыл бұрын
@@tuehojbjerg969 I wouldn't bet on Russia remaining stunned like they are. Take them a few days to move troops and stiffen routed ones. Every plan that relies on the enemy not reacting, will fail. And if you ask my opinion, Ukraine should shift its focus south now. The Cherson region has more economical significance than the whole occupied eastern section, both the 2014-2021 occupied area and what they took recently. There's not much industry there. While unlocking the Dnipro river and securing full acces to the Black Sea (Odessa being within missile range just won't do longterm) is simply vital for Ukraine's economic succes. Assuming Ukrainian army staff share that strategic analysis, we'll see the counteroffensive stop now that they've reached their goals and then shift south. This way Ukraine also retains the initiative and keeps Russia reacting.
@illumi3604
2 жыл бұрын
@@tuehojbjerg969 Over 8000 square kilometers now :-)
@stefanb6539
2 жыл бұрын
@@nvelsen1975 I don't see Ukraine being in a hurry in the south. Kherson is a siege, not an assault. And Russia doesn't seem in a position to care about organizing a relief army right now.
@tuehojbjerg969
2 жыл бұрын
@@illumi3604 yup noticed they are the the russian border in the north and pushing eastward also to some degree
@robandcheryls
2 жыл бұрын
Currently, my favorite “show” to watch, on all media areas.
@ConanDuke
2 жыл бұрын
Up-Vote: 76mm recreational cruise ship guns.
@First-Last_name
2 жыл бұрын
Business would be booming 😉 💥
@casbot71
2 жыл бұрын
So … Perun, what about the _French submarine export market?_ [And that's the last we heard of Perun - the Russians were framed, but emu claw marks on his kicked in front door don't fit their M.O.]
@PerunAU
2 жыл бұрын
Naval Group gets a mention - any dealings with Australia do not. I'll be fine.
@saltmerchant749
2 жыл бұрын
[Sounds of AUKUS intensifies]
@ericmckinley7985
2 жыл бұрын
Those underwater baguettes never stood a chance.
@MenwithHill
2 жыл бұрын
After looking at how backlogged the US already is, it truly feels like a completely hollow political move.
@weirdslime262
2 жыл бұрын
@@MenwithHill I'm pretty sure the subs, both the original French-designed ones and new American-designed ones, were planned to be manufactured under license in Australia. Some of the components, like the nuclear powerplants, for example, will be produced in the US and assembled in Australia; but that won't have much to do with USN drydock capacity.
@What2Have4Dinner
Жыл бұрын
I know this is one of your lesser viewed videos but I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed it and watched it twice. Once on my commute as a podcast then later I sat and watched the slides. Great work man.
@CapnDan57
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for your well researched analysis. I was surprised you didn't mention the the incursion of Fincatieri into the US shipbuilding market with its acquisition of Marinette Marine and the development to build FREMM frigates for USN. Looking forward to the 6 month review, don't worry that your video might be as much of a wild ride as the Ukrainian offensive.
@klasandersson7522
2 жыл бұрын
I like all of your videos Perun, but as an old seadog myself I must admit I really loved this one! Take as long time as you feel you need for the next uppdate, your videos are worthwhile waiting for!!!
@WR288
2 жыл бұрын
Wishing Ukraine continued success in both the South and North East.
@dx-ek4vr
2 жыл бұрын
Here's a funny story: Apparently, while the offensive in the Kharkiv Oblast was going on, Putin was busy inaugurating a ferris wheel in Moscow. Gotta hand it to Putin, man has his priorities straight
@randompheidoleminor3011
2 жыл бұрын
@@dx-ek4vr here's a funny update: Apparently that same ferris wheel has already broken down
@guillermobarrio55
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Perun! Thanx so much for this, from a Spaniard here. Keep up your great work, please!. Anxious for your vid on the evolution of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, especially given recent developments...
@badjuju2721
2 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited for the war updates when they're ready, you clarify and verify things wonderfully Perun!
@funpolice4416
2 жыл бұрын
On the 1904 torpedo boat thing, the entire voyage of the second pacific squadron was an absolute disaster, and there are plenty of good videos on it.
@boobah5643
2 жыл бұрын
And the _Kamchatka_ kept spotting 'Japanese torpedo boats' the whole voyage. Drachinifel's "Voyage of the Damned" is my favorite example.
@ToastyMozart
2 жыл бұрын
@@boobah5643 Except for the *actual* Japanese ships anyway, which they somehow managed to misidentify as Russian.
@funpolice4416
2 жыл бұрын
@@boobah5643 that was my first exposure to Drach’s channel, actually. Thanks, Mike Duncan.
@madensmith7014
2 жыл бұрын
It's a wonder why they thought the Japanese were there in Europe. Probably because the UK is allied to Japan and somehow thought the Brits were housing some secret Japanese task force to intercept their fleet leaving Europe? Or maybe they were actually wary of the Brits entering the war alongside Japan, thus attacking British vessels, but just came up with the dumb excuse to not escalate things?
@ryanbrewis6990
2 жыл бұрын
If only Beresford had had a crack at them with the Channel Fleet. How history may have changed.
@viking1236
2 жыл бұрын
Never boring, always clear and engaging. Something to look forward to, keep it up.
@IRISHMAN555
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all your efforts in getting subtitles and other languages for your videos it shows your passion for your work....thanks again
@jessedaly7847
2 жыл бұрын
I have never ever had even the slightest inclination to set foot on a cruise ship, not even if the tickets were free and I was being paid, but that 76mm cannon idea has me thinking differently…
@First-Last_name
2 жыл бұрын
There was a bad flew break out at one I was on. I was hallucinating grabbing apples out of thin air 😅 🍎
@jessehachey2732
Жыл бұрын
@@First-Last_name There’s a reason why they’ve been called floating “Petrie dishes” for long before COVID, the cruise ship industry always has regular outbreaks of the flu, various respiratory infections, norovirus and other GI infections that spread like wildfire in confined spaces…yuck!
@TurboHappyCar
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic content. Thanks again for all of the hard work you put into these. 👍
@JanChrissD
2 жыл бұрын
As a german, i feel obliged to comment - your analyses of the Bundewehr was spot on and unbiased.
@janpiorko3809
2 жыл бұрын
My favourite weekly PowerPoint content
@robbabcock_
2 жыл бұрын
Once again, a great video! Thanks.
@andrewlechner6343
2 жыл бұрын
Strange, as an American I've always viewed warships as an asset that a military must always make themselves, never considering the fact that some nations without good navel building could just buy them from somewhere else like an airplane.
@afriendofafriend5766
2 жыл бұрын
You can buy them from other countries but I think a navy is something you should try to do yourself.
@vonskyme9133
2 жыл бұрын
There is a third option, widely used by the British. Get the French to build them for you and then just take them.
@nvelsen1975
2 жыл бұрын
@@vonskyme9133 Would you happen to know if the Brits still leave them unattended on the Medway by any chance?
@silentdrew7636
2 жыл бұрын
Generally if you have enough coastline and shipping to need a navy, you probably already have shipyards anyway.
@MasouShizuka
2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on the country's budget and it's geography. In my eyes personally, the US basically have 10/10 location and economy and thus capable to max out on each industry, land, air and sea. Whereas most smaller countries can probably focus on one or two of those aspects and buy the rest to fill in the spaces. In my country, we invested heavily on domestic RnD on land and naval systems that we pretty much lack any industries on aerospace. So we just straight up buy F16s/F15s/F35s, logistics and what not for the airforce. On the flip side we also make our own vessels (to a degree) and buy whatever equipment to fill in the gaps, like frigates or submarines.
@seth4bucks
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I always enjoy your videos, but I don't always have a chance to watch them right away. Slava Ukraine!
@pierresaelen3097
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Perun, Thank you for this worthy replacement video. An update about Ukraine is worth the wait. I'm amazed that you're even working on getting a week ahead of schedule given the quality of the research and analysis each of those videos requires.
@francomartini4328
2 жыл бұрын
Just a note on Daewoo Shipbuilding and Marine Engineering. Unlike Samsung and Hyundai, they do not refer to themselves as Daewoo. They refer to themselves as DSME. Between 2012 and 2018 I worked in an office building in London who's largest tenant was a company called CB&I. CB&I stands for Chicago Bridge and Ironworks however, regardless of their origins, they have for many decades been headquartered in Houston and they work in gas and oil designing installations for the petroleum industry. During my first years in that building they designed Gazprom's liquid natural gas storage facility in the Yamal Peninsula in northern Russia and the rigs, etc. for BP's new oilfield at Clair Ridge in the North Sea 75 km west of the Shetland Islands. After the Yamal LNG project finished circa 2014, CB&I took on a new project launched by Statoil, the Norwegian national oil company. Statoil sent over a team to oversee the project but they weren't CB&I's employers. The way that project worked was that Statoil contracted DSME for the construction work and DSME contracted CB&I to do the design and engineering side. Once that part was completed circa 2016 the DSME crew, of whom there were several dozen, either returned to South Korea or went to Scotland. That Statoil had contracted DSME was odd for a number of reasons. Yes, DSME were experienced shipbuilders but they had little or no experience in building oilfield equipment. Secondly, they were located in South Korea and had been contracted to build oilrigs, pipelines and on shore storage facilities for an oil field located in the middle of the North Sea whose terminal was to be located in Scotland. This would require them to load fully assembled oilrigs and thousands of tons of other stuff onto ships and transport all that stuff literally to the other side of the world by sea where they would then have to assemble all the pieces. I guess it's that kind of ambition that got South Korea to the top of the pile in the marine industry.
@paulrsmirez9270
2 жыл бұрын
No apologies needed, Great presentation as usual and looking forward to your next video no matter what topic you decide to tackle. 😃👍🏼
@jorehir
2 жыл бұрын
Weird that you didn't mention the Constellation deal. That's essentially Italy exporting the FREMM to the US Navy. So, not only the US don't export ships, but they even found themselves as the importers. Italy has also made a deal with Korea for a technology transfer over the mentioned CVX. This confirms Korea's lack of experience in the military shipbuilding, as you were suggesting, despite its large commercial shipbuilding capabilities.
@alinmeleandra3175
2 жыл бұрын
as far as I remember, US is not importing the ships but those ships need to be build under license in US Shipyards. There is a law in US that prevent military to buy equipment that is not produced in US.
@presidentmillardfillmore1329
2 жыл бұрын
This is excellent. I love how much information you accurately provide
@blaircolquhoun7780
Жыл бұрын
Poland also has Oliver Hazzard Perry Class cruisers with the Polish Navy.
@Chaoslorden
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another great video and for helping me build Billy bookshelves. I needed it.
@davidpenfold
2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Oz move from French Naval Group diesel submarines to a US/UK nuclear alternative (when the French could have done that too).
@mathewkelly9968
2 жыл бұрын
We Australians realise the AUKUS deal was the last grasp of a desperate and unpopular political party stuck in the cold war and generally in the past , and realise that the deal will never go through .
@Google_Does_Evil_Now
2 жыл бұрын
@@mathewkelly9968 do you think it might be geopolitically strategically important? Assuming there will be a strong confrontation with China at some point. I know almost zero of Aussie politics, so please explain, I'd be very happy to learn the reality from an Aussie. Thanks.
@adamdymke8004
2 жыл бұрын
I think Perun stays away from politics. The AUKUS decision was extremely political and maybe isn't globally important enough for him to dance around that fact.
@allangibson8494
2 жыл бұрын
The French submarine deal was also five years behind schedule…
@rickmod13
2 жыл бұрын
Also french nuclear boats don't have a reputation for being that quite either
@gregmccallum7282
2 жыл бұрын
It’s Sunday I wonder if Perun’s video has dropped ye….. LETS GOOOO
@Rampart.X
2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a Gatling gun on a cruise ship - turning it into a 'cruiser'. Fun for the whole family.
@robertsneddon731
2 жыл бұрын
There was a common thing in the early 20th century of governments subsidising the construction of fast liners and cargo ships with locations built into the design to take guns and other weapons in case of war, the Armed Merchant Cruiser. There were a number of notable incidents during WW1 and WW2 of these ships actually engaging in fights but they turned out to not do very well even against smaller warships due to lack of armour, trained warfighting crews, damage control etc. When these ships ran into the Big Boys it was pretty much game over immediately (see the AMC Jervis Bay vs. Kriegsmarine heavy cruiser Hipper for an example).
@Hassel-
2 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video I didnt know I wanted. With that said i got somewhat provoked on the way you used the F-35 vs Gripen capabilities as an example. But after taking a deep breath and a sip of coffee I calmed down and instead would like to suggest you make a video on above mentioned "discussion" somewhere down the line in this execellent channel. Be warned thou, its a minefield :)
@Versatilty
2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always
@sirmingusdewiv8325
2 жыл бұрын
"That's the southern one for anyone who wasn't sure." Classic.
@TheNecromancer6666
2 жыл бұрын
Understanding the Type 212/214 compared to the Virginia. The Virginia is able to fight other subs, but is primarily a anti surface ship. The Type 212/214 are made to kill submarines like that if they get close to your coast. The USN would be the first to tell you, that none of their assets would be able to survive 5 minutes close to a coast that has a few Type 212/214 defending it.
@DominickWalenczak
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd cover the arrangement of Fincantieri producing frigates for the US Navy or the kerfuffle over the trilateral US-UK-AU nuclear submarine arrangement that pissed off France (I think?).
@TheKastroman
2 жыл бұрын
He said multiple time he will not cover anything Australian related as he is involved in the industry
@Chironex_Fleckeri
2 жыл бұрын
I have a little bit of perspective on France, their MIC, and why they're a bit... special. Let's start by saying France is engaged in a lot of low intensity conflicts and security missions that no one else publicly supports or talks about. Second, the subs were expensive for what they were and had major drawbacks for RAN ambitions going forward. *Subs:* France was beyond pissed about the sub deal, but I bet things were somewhat smoothed over. The French subs were advanced diesel subs, but those are not going to cut it now that China is being aggressive. I have nothing I can cite to back this up, but I bet the US, France and other allied countries came together to find contracts for French subs or surface ships elsewhere. The allies wouldn't want French shipbuilding industry to atrophy. It's not in any of our interests. It's simply the fact that Australia couldn't justify the $10billion usd commitment to these ships that would've hurt the RAN's ambitions to have their own domestic sub program - industry, maintenance included. Maybe another country like Japan, a Baltic nation, etc. would be better served by these pricey French subs. The AUKUS sub cooperative piece seems to be more for the money for Australia in almost every way. There's a lot more to this, but Australia is looking to operate subs in waters that are out of range for diesel-electric. France may be mad, but they weren't exactly giving Australia the best deal to begin with, and there were things the French were doing that were making it doubtful that they could even deliver on the expensive contract in terms of meeting performance obligations. Not the subs themselves, but the production of them, the cost, the timeframe, things like parts and maintenance. So much of the initial agreement between Australia and France seemed to come down to: RAN couldn't afford to develop the nuclear powered subs they really wanted. Cue the Brits and Yanks ringing them up. This is my impression, but I am not a credible source. French submarines = too expensive, maybe delayed, maybe outdated on arrival, etc. *Why France is a little weird (multiple reasons):* France has a really expensive, really capable MBT that I don't think many are interested in. The LeClerc? Or whatever. It's got all the gadgets you'd want but it's unit cost is insane and I doubt the parts/maintenance costs are low. Especially for a country that is thinking it will go to war, why would you want something so complex to keep operational, to train new crews on, etc. Now we see why the US has huge stockpiles of old M1 (not A1 or A2) tanks, humvees, old airframes, etc. This is a different topic, but the French should focus on what they're best at. Comparative advantage and all that. The FAMAS. Why? Just because the French want to support their own MIC because they still... well, have economic and military presence over what some may call colonies. We don't talk much about that, but that is probably one reason why France has maintained such a large domestic MIC. They dont want other nations telling them "no, we don't want to be tacitly supporting French conflicts" *French Power Projection:* France kinda gets a free pass on a lot of things that other countries don't want to be a part of - because it's an ally. France is an interesting country for sure. Their sometimes questionable actions get swept under the rug is what I'm trying to say. For reasons that are sometimes obvious, sometimes [redacted].
@bmunson4920
2 жыл бұрын
French nuclear marine technology (reactors specifically) is at least a generation behind the USA, so if anyone had a choice for nuclear powered subs it would be American all the way. And even before the Ukraine war (2014) France was going to sell Russia (a country that brutalized the Caucuses) assault ships…what were they thinking???
@DrLennieSmall
2 жыл бұрын
When the deal for the assault ships to Russia was stopped after 2014 Egypt purchased them, perhaps Egypt or another ambitious middle power needs subs?
@dan7564
2 жыл бұрын
Same, two very big developments that at least deserved a shout out.
@MichaelBerthelsen
2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful content as always, and don't worry about the Ukraine update. It's ready when it's ready and you have had time to verify. 😉👍 Never compromise on quality until you're happy with it. Good takes are always better than fast takes. Also, if you're gonna discuss Korea, maybe also discuss some of the issues of the Chaebol system, some of the corruption and inefficiencies in the integration of the companies.
@ryanroberts7851
2 жыл бұрын
Some great info in here Perun! First off, it made me a little sad that you mentioned Newport News as being the premier contractor for Sub construction :(, I would have thought you would have mentioned General Dynamics Electric Boat :P. I'm likely just biased as, that is my place of employment.. I don't believe there would or could even be an export program for the Virginia class not even to mention the Columbia class... as you mentioned, the cost alone for each boat is insane, and that 4 million you mentioned is actually now incorrect on the low end for the Block V Virginias. We have an expansion going on with our primary ship yard in preparation for the Columbia class, there is a new dry dock and construction building that iirc, is upwards of 125k ft/sq. Even taking this space into account, we have to use 3 locations in order to get these boats built, the logistics and workforce needed to build these things is, honestly, insane. My company employs more than 2.5x the population of my home town, largest employer in the state. Were still looking for more people! Thank you for these videos, they are among the most educational and easy on the ears you can find!
@Danksta911
2 жыл бұрын
Of course - German friends remain! Your analysis of our military spending was better and more insightful than any domestic documentary, I have ever seen..:
@H82M8
2 жыл бұрын
I just finished a minor economics assignment and I am rewarded by an EXTRA defense eco lecture. The fact that I am actually excited is a compliment I hope you appreciate @perun
@chronus4421
2 жыл бұрын
@8:50 - The Kamchatka (Hail Admiral Drach!)
@kingplatinum5724
2 жыл бұрын
Man just keep yourself sane and happy I love your dedication to at least trying to give all facts on any given matter. Thank you for your hard work but also take care of yourself my guy and have a good day👺🤙
@asterixky
2 жыл бұрын
As always, great content, and by the way, Slava Ukraini
@Warmaker01
2 жыл бұрын
Great video and excellent wrapup.
@TheAtomicSpoon
2 жыл бұрын
Drachnifel's video on that 1904 journey is just gold. *Ducks thrown binoculars*
@donovanburkhard
2 жыл бұрын
Good man good man 🙏 thank you for your time and effort as always
@13deadghosts
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for touching on the russian second pacific squadron :D I can't recommend Drachinifel's video enough on this topic.
@UNVIRUSLETALE
2 жыл бұрын
I usually get bored by long videos but yours are very interesting even when one and half hours long, well researched and understandable even if it's not my area of expertise
@wom_Bat
2 жыл бұрын
To quote Michael Kofman "the russian Navy looks best under water" Their surface fleet is a joke. Their submarine fleet though is actually impressive.
@robertsneddon731
2 жыл бұрын
The Ladas, successor to the Kilo class subs (which had a long and quite successful export sales history) have been plagued with problems. I don't know if the issues have been solved. The new-build Borei SSBNs seem to be decent second-strike strategic nuclear boats with working missiles -- there's video on KZitem of a test launch from a Borei, firing four ballistic missiles in around fifteen seconds or so. The Russians claimed all four warhead buses reached their targets successfully, no verification of that though. I'm not sure what the current state of the Russian SSN fleet is though, last time I took any notice they still had some older Soviet-era SSNs in service.
@egoalter1276
2 жыл бұрын
Alphas and akulas are good boats even by modern standards. The likely issue is their state of disrepair.
@aliasalias8433
2 жыл бұрын
Another day, another cool (and very informative) video!
@haroldcarfrey4206
Жыл бұрын
USN 1945 strength was 6 supercarriers (Midway and Forrestal fitting out), 24 Essex class Fleet Carriers, 9 Light Carriers, 158 Escort Carriers, 4 Iowa class Battleships, 4 South Dakota class Battleships, 2 North Carolina Class Battleships, 12 Standard Class Battleships, 200 plus cruisers, almost 1000 destroyer and destroyer escorts, and a lot of submarines. And there is a enough vessels still in the reserve fleet to replace every vessel in the active fleet... twice.
@kemarisite
Жыл бұрын
Incorrect in a number of particulars. In particular, the Forrestal class weren't even ordered until 1951 so could not have been fitting out in 1945. The cruiser count was nowhere near 200 (I count about 81 that survived the war), and the escort carriers would be disposed of almost as soon as the war was over.
@haroldcarfrey4206
Жыл бұрын
@@kemarisite USS Card, an Escort carrier was serving as an aircraft ferry during the Vietnam War, most where still in service under 1946-1948. Was wrong about Cruiser count and Forrestals... Want to count destroyers ranging from Clemson to Gearing plus destroyer escorts?
@stephenreese5921
2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding analysis as usual! Thank You!
@OriginalMiztiki
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another incredibly informative video!
@WhiteDevil--
2 жыл бұрын
Hey matey, Appreciate the video as always; however the graph presented @5:24 was incredibly hard to read // discern. Some Feedback: ¹ Increase the font size on the labels at the bottom, ideally making them BOLD ² Adding a visual prompt of each nation's flag adjacent to the country name ³ Appending each nation's flag to the top of their respective segment ⁴ Appending each nation's total amount of exports at the top of their segment ⁵ Increase the font size to the label at left, again ideally BOLD ⅚ It may also be prudent to reduce the horizontal spacing between each segment / country so the visual space is utilised more effectively. Once again, appreciate you - but I'm doing so I want to see what the bloody hell you're on about !
@iangribble2649
2 жыл бұрын
Hello Sailor! Another much appreciated video that has filled in a lot of blanks. Great work! Pity the previous (and perhaps current) Australian government not so much. Now I am worried about Australia's dry dock capacity!
@mattyholt2012
2 жыл бұрын
I was 28 minutes late , but its settling to know even if I was first I would also still be here enjoying it
@mattbrown5511
2 жыл бұрын
I worked for 5 years in a naval shipyard on the Gulf of Mexico in Mississippi. The cost over-runs, poor quality of craftmanship, the overdue scheduling, poor engineering, etc. was astounding. I personally would not buy a rowboat from an American warship manufacturer. I am not at all surprised that America is not the world's leading warship exporter, it doesn't deserve to be.
@thenotoriousnob6607
2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@wyskass861
2 жыл бұрын
One summary note is basically, the US naval industry builds ships for fighting world wars, while Europe builds ships for countries to defend their borders and territory.
@Darkfyreofthezenith
Жыл бұрын
I.E. the Europeans expect to fight their wars near Europe. The Americans also expect to fight their wars near Europe.
@MaticTheProto
9 ай бұрын
@@Darkfyreofthezenithlol. Also more likely the pacific
@uku4171
2 жыл бұрын
KZitem stopped recommending your videos to me for some reason. Guess I gotta click the bell.
@casbot71
2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, Peruns on early this week. I won't have to stay up till Monday morning in Australia _this time._
@tamzidkarim9402
2 жыл бұрын
PRC's military shipbuilding industry is largely focused on the requirements of the PLAN that is true. But they are equally focused on filling up export demands, mostly from the third world countries, for whom going towards European or Korean options will either be too costly or will come with strings attached due to having sub systems of various countries, specially the US. Thailand, Myanmar,Bangladesh, Pakistan are just few of the examples of PRC's naval export, to whom PRC have sold or in process of selling both brand new and second hand ships and submarines.
@danielkorrmann5467
2 жыл бұрын
The story of the Russain shipbuilding sektor in short: Ukraine give it Ukraine take it.
@kazekamiha
2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh... A nice, Perun lecture.
@brandonhong3317
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@Archangelm127
2 жыл бұрын
08:30 - Ahh, the Kamchatka. (The ship, not the peninsula.) If anyone wants more info on the incident Perun mentions with the British fishing fleet, look up Dracinifel's two videos on the Second Pacific Squadron. If you thought you'd heard about voyages to hell before, you ain't heard nothing.
@FishBola1991
Жыл бұрын
“Hilarious, gratuitous overkill.” The US Military Industrial Complex motto
@TheGhost-xj8fu
2 жыл бұрын
Fincantieri is also building the new Constellation class frigates for the USN. More specifically their American subsidiary Fincantieri Marinette Marine is.
@dupond948
2 жыл бұрын
Nonneed for excuses We watch your videos because you take the Time :)
@madensmith7014
2 жыл бұрын
Cruise ships with naval guns, truly a wonderful concept
@goatmealcookies7421
2 жыл бұрын
Whodda thunk power point could hold my attention this long. Really interesting.
@MrWeezy312
2 жыл бұрын
I have been so hyped for this video
@wtfpwnz0red
2 жыл бұрын
can confirm, praying at a shrine to Rickover is not only normal but expected
@viscounttudon68
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kamchatka
@elijahsnow3119
2 жыл бұрын
As an American, I fully agree with all of this. It’s been a source of deep irritation to many Americans that our civilian and military shipbuilding has decayed so much. It’s a real issue. And it’s not really a secret.
@velvetmagnetta3074
2 жыл бұрын
I thought Perun was saying that the US has a substantial military shipbuilding industry - but not a civilian one? And that improving a country's civilian shipbuilding can support the military one?
@elijahsnow3119
2 жыл бұрын
@@velvetmagnetta3074 I’m not the same degree of expert, but the problem he pointed out is that our military ships are getting bigger but there are massive issues and bureaucracy hurdles to shipbuilding in the US. Between California being bonkers and the Northeast not far behind, there is kind of a regulatory stranglehold on port expansion and facility building. We can maintain things. And build things. But there’s a bottleneck that we’re basically ramming at the moment.
@velvetmagnetta3074
2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahsnow3119 - Yes, Perun seemed to like the happy medium that Italy's got going on where they're not trying to build the biggest hugest gargantuan ships like the US does, but they have a vibrant civil market whose capabilities can be and are adopted to supplement their military shipbuilding and maintenance of medium-sized naval vessels. Those ships and ship designs can then be liscensed to other countries to build themselves or share in the construction with other EU member states. While I find our (USA) drive to build the biggest and baddest ships kind of silly, because of our large Pacific presence, it's also kind of necessary. About that bureaucracy and red tape - the US Navy does have some of the strictest laws - actual laws - against sharing and licensing naval technology - even with our closest allies! I don't see that changing any time soon - especially with what's brewing right now in the East with China and Taiwan. But that second-hand market for US ships Perun showed was really interesting! I guess we're happy to sell ships as long as the tech is slightly less cutting-edge. I don't know what you mean about California and the NE, but I am far from an expert, too!
@elijahsnow3119
2 жыл бұрын
@@velvetmagnetta3074 I was referring to the amount of difficulty it takes to expand existing facilities and build potential new ones (or even overall existing ones) with environmental impact statements, engineering consults, NIMBYism from people who don’t want a shipbuilding facility to block their view, environmental protestors, anti-industrial local and state level politicians, emissions standards…. And in and on and on.
@velvetmagnetta3074
2 жыл бұрын
@@elijahsnow3119 - I see! Yes, I suppose there is only so much coastline available! Environmental protections sound kind of important, but that NIMBY stuff - I'm ok with it as long as there is also a NIMBY lobby for the public to enjoy a few outdoor leisure shorelines as well 😉 Pardon me for saying this, but as productive as they may be, shipbuilding shipyards are damn ugly. Also, the oceans are much more delicate than we knew in the industrial heyday. Productivity is great, but we live on a planet - a closed system. (Remember, one of the greatest mass extinctions was caused by ocean algae 🌱 👀) I would hope we would prioritize the environment over a few fractions of a percent GDP.
@petemack3076
2 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that 212, 214 subs are way, way out in front with Siemens fuel cells for submerged power. Just spectacular performance, without the extreme fire risk of high energy density batteries.
@Digmen1
2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and some great detail. Thanks
@bmunson4920
2 жыл бұрын
The Hobart class was built in Spain, then towed to OZ to be fitted out with electronics etc per RAN requirements. The hulls were NOT ‘laid down’ in OZ.
@mareeivey5584
2 жыл бұрын
No the Hobart Class were built in Australia and finally assembled in Australia. The Canberra Class LHDs were built in Spain and had their final completion in Australia.
@bmunson4920
2 жыл бұрын
@@mareeivey5584 You are correct, I got the nomenclature wrong - but I believe Perun did as well. If I am not mistaken he implied the LHD's were fully built in OZ - which as we both know, were not.
@michaelwaldmeier1601
2 жыл бұрын
After reading the comments below, may I suggest a topic for the future - changing ship designs for main battle fleets? I think of the Battle at Lepanto (October 1571), the Spanish Armada vs. the English, the Japanese vs Americans & British for battleship and carrier designs (WWII). In the US Civil War, both sides started to build "ironclads" and duked it out in one battle. I am so fascinated with all of the interrelated info, that the viewing time seems to have become shortened (perception vs reality). Thanks! That's why I subscribe and support.
@wyskass861
2 жыл бұрын
Good shout out to Rickover.
@MrLathor
2 жыл бұрын
Surely the technological and martial advantage of building the best war ships far outweighs having some export contracts. The real problem is not having robust civil shipbuilding that other sectors of the military industrial complex is able to take advantage of.
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