I’m 77 and very grateful to my parents who let me be a tomboy. They were so smart. They knew enough to let time be the solution, to not criticize me for not wanting to wear skirts or dresses, to basically ignore me and to let me handle the bullies, both girls and boys. I learned a lot from the boys I played with in terms of athletic skills and limitations, in terms of repairing bikes and etc. Independence is freedom and tomboyism is not genetic or contagious. Neither of my kids were tomboys but I encouraged independent behaviours and passed on feminist (old school) thinking.
@karlavanessavenegas7198
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for share your experience
@jan9562
11 ай бұрын
I had a similar experience as a child, and played outside a Iot 😊. I remember hearing the word tomboy used about me ( both to me and about me) and thinking how it didn't fit me. I wasn't bothered to respond although I did think that it was an odd saying, and I knew it was about me liking climbing trees and running around - which most kids like to do of course). I hope I passed/ pass on [old school] feminism, too.
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience! We hope you enjoyed the conversation.
@markrussell3428
11 ай бұрын
@@theAHAfoundation Social transition is the first step of a healthcare intervention, it can be as simple as a child changing pronouns and name. This is the start of gender affirming care. Some schools feel its acceptable to start this without consideration for consulting parents or healthcare professionals? The impact of this intervention was reported in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics. The article entitled, “Gender Identity 5 Years After Social Transition” was published 13 July 2022, and it was based on a study that started with 319 children. The average age of subjects when they joined the study was 8 years old. The result is simply this: after five years 94% of the children continue to persist in their transgender identity. What this means is there is now a large number of the subjects in this study that have already moved on to medicalization - the next stage in the protocol - and this involves using puberty blocking drugs and then cross sex hormones. The researchers expect the children who have not reached puberty, and continue to identify as transgender, to eventually follow in this medicalization path.
@urbansetter1
11 ай бұрын
I was a tomboy in the 60s and my parents also were great. I played sports with guys darts built forts and was well liked i was never bullied. This is dangerous what is going on today. I also was not masculine as a tomboy. I was a very pretty tomboy definitely a girl. 75 percent of tomboys are heterosexual woman. I knew other tomboys they did not seem masculine. I think thats a stereotype.
@ruthhorowitz7625
10 ай бұрын
Growing up I hated being a girl. Thankfully I had no idea what trans was. I knew I wasn't like other girls, and never fit in . Last year I was diagnosed with autism. Autistic kids are so susceptible to this because we have an internal sense of 'I'm not like everyone else '. When you suggest trans to a child like that it can seem like the answer. Love Ayaan Hirsi Ali!
@singingway
11 ай бұрын
A story from my family: In 1920 one of my relatives was a very loud, strong, boisterous woman. She was attracted to, and married a quiet gentle widower, a man with six children. They had two more children together, and her adopted children loved her dearly. She managed the farm which allowed him to work part time and spend time with his children. He was remembered as often sitting on the porch steps telling stories to delighted children. My point is that embodying roles opposite to stereotypes was not being a man or woman, just a different expression of it.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
There are exceptions, there are outliers. How much of an outlier or being gender nonconforming is an issue personally that causes gender dysphoria to develop ? The rules are not fixed but norms that do cause people to view others differently especially before transitioning asking questions like "what are you". Also just the way it is.
@Trolland3billygoats
11 ай бұрын
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 They are only outliers/exceptions if you believe in gender stereotypes and seek to reinforce them. Can we simply accept individuals just as they are, complete with the reality of their biological body - tall/short/male/female and allow them to express their personality/style without having to label them as 'other'.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
@@Trolland3billygoats I am not a Radfem nor feminist or social constructionist that deny reality. Stereotypes exist for a reason which is material reality. You can believe whatever you want of course . Humans have a natural capacity the recognize patterns hence science, stereotypes and much of social conformity which has it's benefits and unfortunate aspects. Can i assume that you do not acknowledge evolutionary biology ,evolutionary psychology which have underpinned some of our understandings ? I am literally "other" hence my childhood , development of G/D and the things that happened to me . Everything that was a problem & made me stand out , problematic made it very very easy to transition easily and be happy without gender dysphoria...THIS is the reality of my biological body, mind not your "follow the gametes"and that you must live your natural self. You should allow for a small number of males to do this as society has allowed millions women to live synthetically for 70 years, reshaping all of the western world as a consequence. Leave us alone or help us do it safer .
@pathacker4963
10 ай бұрын
Well put.
@nataanda2486
11 ай бұрын
Im born 1967, and so many teenagers these days were confused, felt awkward and miserable. Searching for your identity is part of life!
@iuliamarinescu1018
11 ай бұрын
Hello, everyone! I wish more mature people could share their teenage journey for other to understand that feeling lonely/alone/trapped in your body/isolated/anxious/shamed of your body transformations are all part of the process of growing up and transforming from a child to a more mature person. The confusion, the depression are not signs that is something wrong with you or your body. It is everyone's path, it's just life. Sometimes even as an artistic person you will deal with so much internal struggle, but here lies the beauty of Becoming and finding your true self. The acceptance of all you are it's the real and only finding of ones self. I am so sorry that young people are so confused and hurt and they really dont have a tribe of healthy people to help them. In the end we all came from a woman's womb, there is nothing to debate about it.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
That would help many that are being influenced by social media etc. There is no debate that everyone sees me as a female & women when i walk out my door. If i wore no makeup ( i wear little ) , if i wore men's clothes people would just be confused, If i had not transitioned a little less so. This is not about you or replacing you but us fitting in WELL to society & eliminating long standing gender dysphoria.
@annlouise8909
11 ай бұрын
This is a very clear, thoughtful, well run conversation. Moreover, the use of English and tempo makes it accessible to non-anglophones. I hope this recording makes traction.
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11 ай бұрын
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@RuthSchwab-qh9yu
11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this. Wonderful and thoughtful expression from both speakers
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11 ай бұрын
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@alexandervanlohen4229
7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for your work!!! Such well spoken, rational women who tell the truth even though threatened, which says everything about this crazy movement!!!
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7 ай бұрын
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@TheNesbittExperience
11 ай бұрын
It's right out of 1984.... "In the end the Party would announce that two and two made five, and you would have to believe it. It was inevitable that they should make that claim sooner or later: the logic of their position demanded it.
@pathacker4963
10 ай бұрын
“Brave New World” as well it covered the test tube babies.
@rubytimms3932
11 ай бұрын
There are quite a few young women, and some boys, who deeply regret their surgery and are trying to sue the people who did this to them.
@moonlightray8493
11 ай бұрын
"Misgendering is actually just accurately sexing" is such a brilliant way to put it!!
@chelseapoet3664
11 ай бұрын
Wow talk about an all star double bill! I love both of these wonderful women 😍
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11 ай бұрын
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@belindaterry6010
10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kathleen. You are deeply appreciated.
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10 ай бұрын
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@kaytrundle9002
11 ай бұрын
Great discussion. There are SO MANY of us who absolutely HATE THIS unGodly ideology. We can only hope as you say, that class action will arrive sooner rather than later to STOP this madness 🙏✊☮️🌍
@nataanda2486
11 ай бұрын
As Ayaan is from Somalia, where female genital mutilation is practised widely, her opinion about surgical transition is so interesting!
@tish3092
11 ай бұрын
Well said, Kathleen. I also think 25 at the earliest
@philipanthony9596
11 ай бұрын
Not for nothing did Plato suggest 30 as the minimum age for participation in the political life of the city and giving life changing hormone treatment to anyone under 25 simply because they feel that ‘they’ (whatever that means) are in the wrong body is the height of irresponsibility.
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11 ай бұрын
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@ladydove5895
11 ай бұрын
Its funny how if the child is ill the school call the parent to get them care or to get permission to give him/her a painkiller. Yet, they are quick to mutilate a healthy child without consent then sent that child home for the parents to care for them. Make it make sense, please!
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11 ай бұрын
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@Tinkerstrade
8 ай бұрын
What a bonus, listening to these two brilliant ladies.
@Luellavonstein
7 ай бұрын
I thank my lucky stars for every video you have made. You have no idea the peace you have brought my heart since I found your channel about a week ago. You make me feel like Im living in reality again 😢
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6 ай бұрын
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@Thaimiles
10 ай бұрын
Clear, calm and truth. I’ll never understand how anyone would think to turn everything so upside down. Every time I hear Kathleen speak about this and now also Hirsi, my brain explodes with wonder about the future of our planet.
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10 ай бұрын
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@dcitennison5911
8 ай бұрын
This was a really great discussion. Thank you.
@IrIr__SiSi
7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this very important and insightful chat. Ayaan Hirsi Ali mentioned the "natural family", while Kathleen Stock repeatedly reduced the term to the "nuclear family". At one point Ayaan Hirsi Ali embraced this merely sociological term. Well, the matter is not - only - sociology, and not only a modernist vernacular structure. The crucial question is not only, whether two adults care for kids in a family-like setting (and not any larger community of adults). The crucial question is, "who we are", and how we are linked to each other in our embodied reality. If the body matters - and it does! - it also matters how a child is biologically related to the people who care for it. Not only our sexual identity, but also the "self", the self-understanding and identity of a human person is closely linked to his/her holistic and bodily descent. Biological lineage is a central part of this: Yes, it is crucial to know where we come from, who our ancestors were - or might have been. It is important to relate to them, either affirmingly or in a distancing-critical mood, whether the relationship is/was harmonious or wounded. Children raised by foster parents, or who are being adopted will need to be allowed to grieve and mourn for the crucial, existential loss not to be with both their biological parents. They will need to understand and to reconcile with the circumstances of the separation. This is a lifelong process, hopefully a healing one, and it will be boosted in their own mating and parenting phases as well as in high age. It is, therefore, no banality not to know your biological father, or the woman who carried you in her womb. It does matter; how many siblings you might have (part of the "nuclear family", too), where your grandparents came from, how they lived, how they looked like, what health issues they were exposed to and how they coped with the challenges of life. Attachment and self-identification occurs - not only, but to a huge extent - over our biological chemistry, in the resemblances we discover in eye-to-eye-contacts, because not only our consciousness, but also our genes, our lymbic system "remember" and react. The programmatic relativisation of the "natural family" is certainly a dead end in Western civilisation.
@suedavis1781
11 ай бұрын
The book Kathleen Stock mentioned is called, "When Kids Say They're Trans" by Littman, Ayad and O'Malley. Ayad and O'Malley also host a terrific podcast Gender: A Wider Lens. Highly recommend! Thanks for this discussion. Extremely interesting.
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11 ай бұрын
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@rijntje73
11 ай бұрын
7:40 When listening to Kathleen making her point here, at some point Shania Twain's lyric: "Man! I feel like a woman!" popped into my head. 😂
@user-rv7ph1jl5y
11 ай бұрын
Excellent notes into the ethos of the feminist reality and of the premise of capitalism, trauma, and basic belonging as to whats creating this unfortunate whirlwind of change. Only wishing they had time to go further as there seems to be so many factors (profits, hypersexualization,traumas etc), leading GAC to be perfectly poised as the "only solution " to the very basic idea of needing to belong. Its bullocks fed to kids with a lifetime ahead of them with no understanding of how to critically consider where this is stemming from and the long term health effects on so many. Shame on those institutions pushing this bs. 1:00:29 AS ALWAYS kudos to Kathleen Stock and Ayaan for offering up insights and pushback!!
@AndyJarman
11 ай бұрын
Industrialisation has made the family a burden, when it has always been a resource.
@fretbuzz59
11 ай бұрын
*had (always been a resource)
@singingway
11 ай бұрын
This is a good insight. Let me know if you write further upon this topic. Maybe do a medium article.
@fretbuzz59
11 ай бұрын
@@singingway I recommend a 2020 Atlantic article by conservative journalist David Brooks about the failure of the nuclear family. In the past, children were typically raised in extended families in which there were usually family members available for support, child care/baby sitting, etc. Even until around 40 yrs ago, the mother was usually there when kids got home from school. We've abandoned this model to society's detriment. I usually haven't agreed with Brooks' conservative perspective, but I think he is right on this. It struck a chord with me.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
@@fretbuzz59 Bitchy pointless response, be real and respond to the point of what he said or....
@Jennifer-mv9pg
11 ай бұрын
The thing about the push to surgically and chemically transition these children is that it takes their fertility and their sexual pleasure. Their very sexual urges are being destroyed and the outcome is never what is promised. It is a cruel abuse, and I can't help but think there is an underlying misogyny and self-hatred within the trans movement which seeks to take revenge on feminism
@pathacker4963
10 ай бұрын
It is eugenics at its core. Someone is picking and choosing who can and can’t have children. Apparently they don’t want the autistic having children.
@raina4732
10 ай бұрын
@@pathacker4963And also trying to stop homosexual children from becoming fertile adults. How this medical scandal is allowed to happen is horrifying.
@dennysmith7862
9 ай бұрын
My mother was a Registered Nurse in Woodstock Hospital and did her Midwifery at Mowbray Maternity Hospital in Cape Town, South Africa... She mentioned the high number of babies born with both female and male genitalia... The general thought was this was due to high drug and alcohol abuse in that and surrounding poorer areas... AFS (Alcohol Fetal Syndrome) was also a real problem... One can only imagine the mix-up of hormones, progesterone and oestrogen in these unfortunate beings...!!! The Bible aptly states : "Judge not, lest ye be judged..." I can quite understand and sympathise with the confusion and indecisiveness of all involved or related to such folks who are affected by this mix-up...
@pathacker4963
10 ай бұрын
The physical/biological role of sex is procreation. What is the role of gender? I would really like to know. The human system is so complex, fooling around pretending you become the opposite sex is insane and harmful. We are going to end up with a generation of extremely harmed people.
@AndyJarman
11 ай бұрын
51:30 Kathleen's dig at "Capitalism" would be better direct at Neo-liberalism. Capitalism occurs the moment a personal possesion was invented. The imbuing of value on an external feature is the definition of capitalism. Trade in private property IS capitalism. Trade is not to blame. The reduction of the individua'ls intrinsic value as having an equivalency expressed as money is the problem, that is a major feature of Neo Liberalism, NOT capitalism.
@umwha
11 ай бұрын
I'm really trying to understand the difference between captialism and neoliberalism. Neoliberalism (new-freedom) refers to a braod swath of economic policies beginning about a century ago in the west, which relates to deregulating markets and corporations, right? So its just when capitlaist corporations get less constrained? And whats the problem with them being less constrained?
@jujutrini8412
11 ай бұрын
@@umwhaCapitalism without restraint turns into crony capitalism which is detrimental to society.
@fretbuzz59
11 ай бұрын
@@umwha "whats the problem with [corporations] being less constrained?" Well, if you have to ask ... BTW, what's the problem with apostrophes?
@andrear4954
11 ай бұрын
Interesting perspectives
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
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@giselec.7806
11 ай бұрын
12:02 amazing!!!!
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11 ай бұрын
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@AndyJarman
11 ай бұрын
It's the parents job to parent their children and that means refusing religious educatuon in the cult.
@singingway
11 ай бұрын
See the new book from A Wider Lens. "When kids say they're trans" a resource for parents.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
Sure they have an opposite agenda to AGP trans activists & are very biased. They have a policy that they want no one to transition ever as well as to make it legally ,medically impossible . Sounds reasonable does it ?
@AndyJarman
11 ай бұрын
Trans ideology is already begining to go out of fashion among the chattering classes in the UK. It progressed as far as it did because it was not publicised adequately and without gate keeping by the ideologically captured.
@roleat
11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you are incorrect
@Heidi123
11 ай бұрын
Labour Party is talking about making "mis-genedering" (in other words properly sexing) a criminal offence.
@sarahmurphy-nf4yl
11 ай бұрын
@@roleat exactly 💯
@sarahmurphy-nf4yl
11 ай бұрын
@@Heidi123 Ireland is bring in a draconian hate law.
@miroirs-jumeaux
11 ай бұрын
When asked about hostility towards the _nuclear family,_ Professor Stock missed the opportunity to mention Queer Theory and the other species of neo-marxism. If I'm not mistaken, doing away with the nuclear family and anti-Zionism were both on the official BLM website as part of their platform, years ago now.
@gardengirl6636
10 ай бұрын
Two brilliant women! 🩷
@theAHAfoundation
10 ай бұрын
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@kipling1957
11 ай бұрын
I hope Ayaan is okay. She seems quite frail in this video.
@tanchella
11 ай бұрын
Artificial womb really is just a more advanced incubator for preterm babies, scentists are working towards saving infants at earlier gestation age. Me personally, I don't believe artificial womb will ever replace pregnancy, which is a shame. I think we must work to reduce an enormous suffering women go through to keep human race reproducing. But I imagine Kathleen as a philosopher has a different perspective and is looking into the future and foreseeing ethical dilemmas that might arise. Who could have known that IVF technology will give rise to surogacy industry that created new ways to exploit women in poor countries, outsource suffering for the benefit of the wealthy.
@pathacker4963
10 ай бұрын
Artificial wombs will be extremely expensive as well.
@FelineFurKin
2 ай бұрын
Many trans people exist for you to talk to. I see no mention of them in the description.
@theAHAfoundation
2 ай бұрын
Hi! This probably isn't a topic Ayaan will be discussing on the Foundation's platform in the future but we would love to hear some recommendations if you have any specific people you think she could chat with. Thanks for the comment!
@lancewalker2595
11 ай бұрын
23:29 - Sounds like a pretty darn good description of intersectional feminism... *cough* *cough*
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
To start with "Reality matters" is a distortion of what is going on and leveraging the idea that policies can easily & fairly or even consistently be made on by sex alone or SHOULD be when there is a modern concept of no discrimination on the basis of sex alone.What activists demand in the form of acceptance of gender ideology & queer theory , forcing change to society ( as feminists are still doing ) is a different discussion from what to do with us as children & adults being very GNC with severe Gender dysphoria. Yes the activist push the Trans umbrella that Trans women are women which is inaccurate and conflating the issue as Stock does ...no one would say i was a "man" before transitioning nor now but male , biological male yes. Stock does this because she does not want to recognize ,acknowledge that many transsexuals easily pass blend in to live as women are SEEN as women hence being against transitioning full stop . Being a feminist that thinks gender & the feminine / masculine are socially constructed is part of the nonsense that allowed gender ideology & queer theory to develop in feminist dominated university departments , to quote a scientist " gender is the software to sex" ( Heather Heying evolutionary biologist ) . It is not an accident that people like myself score very highly in female psychological traits with the "big five " and why people are at odds with us from childhood . Self ID simply never should have happened but has for nefarious reasons including approving transitioning for people that could not possibly fit in so they lobbied to change the DSM years ago because they were gatekept .Odd Stock does not mention that people with gender recognition certificates have a coding into their health care to recognize them which is fine so long as it is not used down the track to identify us all as Kellie Jay Keen wants to do and reverse our documents . Redifining words , making up new words, censoring started in women's studies , when i medically transitioned every female were completely supportive of me unquestioningly. Two people said "are you sure " both men, THIS needs to be talked about because women swing voting , policies, institutions etc in every western country when you pretend that women & men think the same this problem cannot be addressed. BTW it has always been the case that "same sex attracted" people want to transition, this has been consistent over many many decades and why not ? I still sleep with men just not gay men.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
@@mykr0324 Don't like to think or multitask ? Poor you
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
@@mykr0324 Yay another one on the spectrum 👏
@ponygirl1716
11 ай бұрын
Obviously I don't know you, but I feel very strongly that I would have seen you as a "man" before your transition. I believe that we are all comprised of "masculine" and "feminine" traits and that having more "masculine" traits doesn't render a woman a man (or vice versa). I don't claim to understand what gender dysphoria feels like, but could it be partly related to rigid notions of masculinity vs femininity? Do you believe that you could have found a place of peace with your male-ness if your feminine qualities weren't seen as disqualifying you from "manhood" in some way?
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
@@ponygirl1716 Because of how you have responded in your first sentence i will try to answer. You said "feel very strongly" I think that you are coming from a social constructionist, blank slate ,feminist view point that humans are made to be feminine or masculine from birth by culture which i do not believe. I believe in what i can observe with my own eyes & evolutionary biology, evolutionary psychology. The place where i would agree is that people do have some masculine / feminine traits. We are a sum of all our total characteristics to a degree , people can be influenced to a degree or shifted slightly. When people read us as a gender & sex us it is not just our reproductive parts . To answer your last question the answer is a very clear no, my gender dysphoria would not have gone away & i would never been comfortable fitting in , nor date who i want to . Everything that was a problem is now an advantage quite literally You seem to forget that the world and humans are naturally structured around a heterosexual society , all i needed to do to fit perfectly into a female "role" as feminists call it was transition. By doing so i have not forced society to change as feminist, queer theorists are trying to do .
@lminterests5590
11 ай бұрын
Capitalism has been around a long time. Families where doing fine until, excessive liberalism, Feminism....?
@ambientsoda106
10 ай бұрын
I think Kathleen's attitude is such a shame...and only shows that although she appears beautiful, her heart is cold... Shocked someone can get this worked up about who gets to use the toilet...😂😂😂 I wondered if Kathleen has a disability underlining her difficulty understanding why she is so wrong about this...
@geemo4284
3 ай бұрын
I wonder if you have a disability that is preventing you from understanding what is at stake for women around people with penises being allowed into women’s spaces, like women’s refuges?
@jaijai5250
2 ай бұрын
Why does her attitude bother you so much? She’s not the only woman who wants to keep public spaces, where people are in a state of undress, separate. Why does it bother you when women choose not to engage with men, who claim to be women. Let those men engage with people who are of similar mindset and lifestyle. Just don’t force the rest of us to engage, and criminalise us for making different choices.
@ambientsoda106
2 ай бұрын
@@jaijai5250 Kathleen has taken centre stage across media outlets and the public; I myself went through teacher training and understand what it means to work in education...it is shocking how she is behaving...you may not like that I made commentary here but tough luck, I have and will continue to do so when I see this nonsense in the public hemisphere...how Kathleen frames this conversation is dangerous...she calls for the right to be offensive and in doing so caters to bullying behaviours and even desires this outcome, she has labelled trans women as rapists, but says nothing about trans men (like due to her issues with men), Kathleen should have been removed from educations doing these things rather than retiring from it. Kathleen's behaviour has been like that of a child surrounding transwomen...
@rayrayrayrayray79
11 ай бұрын
Such an important conversation. This is a crisis. Thank you for posting thank you to Prof Stock for supporting and standing up for women and children.
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
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@Susan.D
11 ай бұрын
yes, the level of hypocrisy , especially in America, is allowed to go largely unchallenged, and it is a horrific mistake to make for everyone world wide.
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
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@Medina-bk2fo
11 ай бұрын
In the US, it's the greed - the propaganda, funded by the g3nder industry, is effective, and everyone is paid off. Even the ACLU has taken millions to work for this fastest-growing medical profit base. Planned parenthood, the same - they used to mainly provide contraception; now they're the MAIN distributer of synthetic hormones.
@cestmoi4532
11 ай бұрын
Excellent conversation. Thank you for hosting these two rational voices.
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
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@singingway
11 ай бұрын
Anyone who thinks "the kids know who they are" -- have apparently never studied the developmental stages of the human brain.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
Some do when they are very much at odds with the norms because we are treated differently, we become self aware very young, developing gender dysphoria is part of it .. People do not change the essence of who they are in nature from birth unless damaged.
@kandilula
11 ай бұрын
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 I've read your replies and I'm not sure how you're "non-ideological." This was never a common phenomenon amongst the female sex until very recently. So many parents of ROGD girls are mystified that their daughters are professing lifelong GD, when there was not one symptom of it. They also appear to be following a "script" that they have learned from social media, especially Tumblr, Reddit and now Tiktok.
@RB-jl2qb
11 ай бұрын
@@non_ideological_transexual7414 You are suffering from ideological bias. There is NO evidence that gender medicine helps anyone. Studies by the gender clinics themselves show that mental health issues are not resolved by gender medicalisation. In fact suicide rates go up approx 7-10 yrs post gender surgeries. The whole thing is a con.
@pathacker4963
10 ай бұрын
Our kids should never have been subjected to this nonsense.
@AndyJarman
11 ай бұрын
Fleming's point about the loss of the family as a central reference for the formation of one's idea of who we are is VERY important. The neo-liberalism of the 1980s has a lot to answer for. Society's familial cohesion was derided as inconsequential and a hinderance to the individual's economic self realisation. I think this atomisation and loss of the family has had unrecognised consequences.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
Yes , would not change us wanting to transition though
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11 ай бұрын
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@Aran_chini
8 ай бұрын
Is there any insight into how such radical fantasies are able to so effectively spread and infect public policy?
@281992pdr
4 ай бұрын
My admiration for these two women was massive before this session, now it is even higher. Logical, lucid and rationally expressed. Thank you.
@jcortese3300
11 ай бұрын
I'm so glad that this trash wasn't around when I was little, or else I would have been shoved right at it as a little girl for whom math and science went down like water and who loved telescopes and had zero interest in dating. Chopping my body up because I didn't embody the Stepford ideal wouldn't have solved anything. Who thought it was "progress" to break oneself to fit into a broken world? I did my time trying to fit into that nonsense, now I'm a 57 year old woman in jeans and flannel shirts, and that's exactly how I'm staying. If anyone thinks I'm not what a woman is supposed to be, the problem isn't ME, it's THEM. My body is fine, your mind is what needs to change.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
" Stepford ideal " you must be a feminist , if you still have an interest in science try evolutionary biology & evolutionary psychology . Just because culture exaggerates norms does not mean that norms have no basis in reality. It was feminists that always wrote being a women was an enforced social role causing queer theory, gender ideology not men , look there 🙄
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11 ай бұрын
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@elizabethAbbott-q6m
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely. A girl can be a mechanic and rodeo rider and doesnt need to be chopped up. I had aunts who were tough, six foot tall; competent ranchers and nurses, not girly or dainty; it did not mean they were in need of a big operation; lived long and healthy lives.
@annlouise8909
11 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@iamanomas
11 ай бұрын
Transtrenderism (spelling on purpose) is a modern disease happening in the developed world, the rich countries. I believe this is because indiscriminate activism is the only thing those activists (just them, not the individuals who actually have skin in the game) have left to do. Most democracies have charters of rights and gays and lesbians have earned them after decades of righteous activism. But this new development is crazy.
@non_ideological_transexual7414
11 ай бұрын
Gender ideology in its form now is very new. People wanting to transition is not, some have been cutting their own penises off forever. We first started trying to transition medically 100 years ago so new ? No . ROGD yes new but old this has been happening to girls , women in particular for many centuries being more easily influenced ( advertisers and politicians love that )
@PaulCali-n8t
2 ай бұрын
By my reckoning, metaphysics is the branch of philosophy that deals with the question of what is really real, or what is most real. At its base, this sex-gender issue seems to be a metaphysical issue. As one who, perhaps unfortunately, likes philosophical discussions, it would be nice to read a formal metaphysical analysis of the sex vs. gender issue.
@MelissaKnoxwriter
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this clear, rational discussion!
@theAHAfoundation
10 ай бұрын
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@MrLaurence8
4 күн бұрын
WILL THE PRIESTS ALL BE JAILED!!??
@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
2 ай бұрын
Femininity in males and masculinity in women
@sarral2008
2 ай бұрын
My two favourite women.❤❤❤
@vivienneb6199
11 ай бұрын
When feminists are criticizing "the family," they are criticizing the DEVALUING of women/mothers and inequities in marriage. I think Ayaan's view on this is superficial, and just reproduces the existing misogynist insistence on a hierarchy of male/female (superior/inferior).
@umwha
11 ай бұрын
You do have a point. Feminist crituque of 'family' and 'marriage' was meant to criticize power imbalances. However, it dosent stop there. Much in the same way, feminsts developing the idea of 'gender role' was a logical, reality-based analysis of how social roels are constructed. But in both of these critiques, feminism has far exceeded any logical point. Feminists generally belive in Genderism now, and you wont find any talking positively about long-term monogamou relationships. That is traditional heteronormative culture. You will find feminists extolling the virtues of polyamory, destigmatising female promiscuity, affirming the childless woman with no affirmation for women who become mothers.
@jujutrini8412
11 ай бұрын
You will also find feminists who talk positively about long term monogamous relationships and affirm mothers. I am one of them. Feminism needed to critically examine “family” and “marriage” because the way that society was structured before definitely had negative affects on women. Women were basically just chattel in a marriage before ie men were allowed to rape their wives until relatively recently and it’s down to feminism why that is even considered as unacceptable in society now.
@umwha
11 ай бұрын
@@jujutrini8412 Would you say that affirming long-term relationships and mothers is mainstream feminism? Or is it a minority of feminists?
@FloppityFlopFlop777
7 ай бұрын
@vivienne I completely agree.
@geemo4284
3 ай бұрын
@@umwha, I don’t think there is such a thing as ‘mainsteam’ feminism - there are just too many schools of feminism to generalise about what most feminists think. I am a feminist who champions the right of women to undertake more traditionally ‘feminine’ roles like childbearing and staying at home with children (although I believe that women need to be financially supported, by society, to undertake the hard task of child rearing, so that they are not just financially dependent on their husbands to do so) as well as the right of women to not have children and to not be considered less feminine or less of a woman because of their decision. Many women believe in freedom for women, rather than that women should or shouldn’t do this or that.
@MEG-kg8xi
11 ай бұрын
What a treat, thank you.
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@tomwright9904
11 ай бұрын
Grumble, questioning as I am of the transgender movement I also don't really like this analysis. It seems anti-intellectual, at times essentialist (women's rights), anti-individual and paternalistic (the poor parents). I don't really recognise women as having rights distinct from other humans by virtue of gender. But I do recognise individuals as needing specific protections by virtue of the effects of sex.
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and analysis of the video. We appreciate your insight even if you don't agree with the speakers.
@kandilula
11 ай бұрын
Ok. What about those kids then? The ones who have been sucked into the cult because it's the latest fad? Do you care that impressionable young minds have been persuaded to medicalised and surgically mutilate their bodies?
@Luellavonstein
6 ай бұрын
YES YES YES! Thank you for speaking out. Im a parent who is a victim of this ideology. I feel its a cult, and Im a PMHNP. Im afraid to speak out for fear I would lose my license… so instead, I do my best to comment and support. Thank you for saying everything you say. We love you!!!
@JSCHOEY
11 ай бұрын
Very biased talk. Can you bring an opposing view next time? Boring.
@kerrinorman2073
11 ай бұрын
Einstein has arrived, folks.
@maxcaunhye736
11 ай бұрын
@@kerrinorman2073😂
@theAHAfoundation
11 ай бұрын
This was meant to be a discussion, not a debate. Maybe we will have a debate in the future. Thanks for commenting!
@morgondew1420
11 ай бұрын
I agree, I have been looking for good debates on this topic between two well informed opponents with opposing views. This talk no doubt were for the fans of the gender critical movement who just wanted to have their beliefs affirmed . Good for them but this topic desperately needs good debates.
@FelineFurKin
2 ай бұрын
@@theAHAfoundationdon’t have a debate. Trans rights are not up for discussion. If this video doesn’t include trans people, it should perhaps not have been made at all. Few trans people I’m aware of want to engage in debate, they just deserve to live in peace equal to every other valid human being. Start with Jeffrey Marsh if you must, they’re used to the relentless rubbish.
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